Tacoma SumoSprings Installation and Results 

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Yeah, I even checked mine about a month later just to make sure. Lol can’t be safe enough! And the slight imbalance did not affect anything else except visually being slightly different. No performance difference. Thanks for the comment!

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awesome! thank you

Agreed, they definitely stiffen up the right a bit because they hit the frame but it’s really not all that noticeable.

Good choice. I was going for zero sag but the ride is fought for sure.

​@@bobbygfl the Tacoma can't haul much weight, definitely not that of of the black or yellow sumo springs. My Tundra has the black ones and I'm hauling up to 10k weight.

@@muletowndumpsterswell black is rated for 1000 lbs. went with the black for my taco

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SuperSprings thank you for the comment!

I'm trying to decide between the blue and black springs for my 2010 Tacoma. Would I feel much difference between the two when unloaded? I'm leaning towards the black. Thanks

If you’re loaded up more than 50% or with a lot of weight most of the time, I’d recommend trying the black. If not, the blue would be great!

M Lebowski If it helps under load the yellow ones are really not that bad. I would choose more support over ride quality personally now that I know what the yellow ones feel like. Don’t get me wrong, you feel the road but it doesn’t knock your fillings out. Well like a sports car than a jeep if that makes any sense. In fact my daughter said her jeep is way bouncier and it’s stock.

Thanks guys, cant wait to get them installed.

T-12 lol. Thanks! Agreed.

Can you elaborate? And which set or color would you recommend?

@@ericblair5402 I hope this helps - www.supersprings.com/which-density-is-right-for-you/

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qoua vang thanks! I called sumo and asked. I wanted as little compression as possible. I don’t like the truck to squat under load. They said these combined with the extra leaf springs I added would be my best option. They were right. When hooked to my boat there is only a 1/2 drop but the suspension still travels quite a bit. In this case I’m glad I calmed them. The product is doing exactly what they said it would.

@@bobbygfl so you needed to install an add leaf and the sumo springs to correct the sag in rear when trailer hooked up or had a heavy load? I have a 2 seater side x side on a 7x12 si angle axel and it raises the front more than I am comfortable with. Feels very floaty in front going down the road. I was going to add just the sumo springs. What do you think

Here’s what I learned on my journey with this. I may make a video on it because I get the question a lot. The additional spring leaf lifted the rear about an inch on the torque setting I tightened the bolts to. For loads I’d say around 200 pounds it keeps the rear from sagging. It also makes the ride tight with no load. Not bouncy just tight. Like a sports car. The sumo springs barely even touch at 200 pounds load. At 500 pounds load and up the sumo springs take over. When I have my boat hooked up the sumo springs are working for sure. What happens is you get zero sag up to maybe 800 pounds. And the ride is a dream. Very smooth. When you are towing or have a heavy load the sumo springs are so smooth. Like ringing on air. So the experience is the combination of not the extra leaf and the sumo spring depending on how heavy you’re loaded. Hope that helps.

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I love them. When you are not hauling anything I think you get a little bit more balance because your spring travel is allow the sumo springs to push up against the frame. For perspective my daughters jeep is more bouncy and it’s stock. I have zero traction problems this is not a four-wheel-drive. And went under load they are perfect keeping the rear of the truck from squatting.

Just the leaf springs will give it a lift not the sumo Springs

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Dude that was 3 year ago. @@bobbygfl

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I’m not familiar with the product you mentioned. I love these though. They accomplish exactly what I needed them to. On an empty load they don’t do anything. But loaded down they sure get stiff fast. Good luck hope that helps thanks for the comment

Sumo Springs rep said they are all slightly different because of the way they are attached to the metal bracket. And yes the different weight is color-coded I think blue is the softest then Black than yellow is the stiffest. I love them though. For me they have worked perfectly.

i think ssr-610-54. i got them from amazon. best to do a search with your truck loaded in. amazon will tell you if its right.

yes i believe so.

Yes but your ride will be rough. Better to Install a spacer in my opinion. These are for temporary heavy loads like pulling a boat

The helper springs I got from Amazon and they provided some lift so I would get them again for that reason alone. Also it takes quite a bit of weight to get the sumo springs to actually kick into action. If I am just telling my boat the helper springs are plenty. If I’m carrying a heavy load in the bed the helper springs were not enough and the combination of both keeps the truck level but also allows for suspension travel. Hope that helps

@@bobbygfl Great info, thanks so much for the response!

About 1.5 inches

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Same with the Tacoma! Feel good that it’s normal. Thanks for the comment!

Thanks. Love them! Yes the step is aftermarket. Here’s the link: AMP Research 75307-01A BedStep Retractable Bumper Step for 2005-2015 Toyota Tacoma,Black,Large www.amazon.com/dp/B0049UWQXQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CATCTJ9FP5F8ZVZQTAQ5

Here’s the link. AMP Research 75307-01A BedStep Retractable Bumper Step for 2005-2015 Toyota Tacoma,Black,Large www.amazon.com/dp/B0049UWQXQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CATCTJ9FP5F8ZVZQTAQ5

Jay Mackay you’d think manufactures would put the tank on the passenger side.

Then you would half to walk around to the other side to fill it up (catch 22), eeehhh, don’t mind me I get lazy some times

Tacoma Kings here’s the link for the tires: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g7DwWQ1TQxU.html

Yes. Still on there and holding up great. No I’d stay with the same color. I don’t pull the boat anymore but I do use two 14 gallon gas caddies all the time. The truck sags zero when full. It’s so nice. And the ride is fine. No complaints

Thanks for the comment the bumper step is from amp research and you can get it on Amazon. The springs are still going strong. I recently loaded a bunch of concrete bags and they really do their job keeping the truck from dragging its ass down the street.

@@bobbygfl Thanks for your reply.

The spring is about 7” and the mount adds about 2.5”. Thanks!

Makes sense but with this application impossible. This is the spring sumo recommends for the Tacoma and as you can see it’s very close.

@@bobbygfl Shorten it by cutting of the top 1.25" from the sumo spring. Looks like they did not make it ideally for your truck because they were lazy to make many different heights. If you have a 1.25 inch gap you will have a comfortable ride when lightly loaded and you only want these to engage once you load your truck with soil or heavy trailer. Also you bought the super stiff ones that support 2800 lb weight for 50% compression. This is too heavy duty for a tacoma, you will never carry that much extra weight. I would recommend the softer ones blue for 1000 lb of support at 50% compression that way you have more suspension in the sumo spring. The black ones are 1500 lb support at 50% compression that might be the most i would go on a tacoma. They yellow ones are good for F250 or F350

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I'm trying to decide between the blue and black. Is the ride more bumpy when unloaded?

M Lebowski it’s a little more bumpy but not too much, you get less body roll as well, my truck has a camper shell and most of the time i carry tools or pull a trailer, so for my truck the black ones where a better fit

Did you install on a taco?

@@OneAndOnlyChi Yes on a 2005 tacoma

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Thank you. I’d say air would be better because I don’t feel like the sumo springs are made for continuous pressure. But they are great. If I’m hooked up it keeps the tailgate from squaring

It’s a Hellwig 980 Helper Spring

DADDY_ JULZ for me the combination of both has been ideal. The helper spring gave me a little extra lift and the sumo spring prevents sag.

This is the most popular question and the best way I can explain it is a jeep wrangler 2018 is a rougher ride. I hope that helps.

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I thought of doing that but did not want to spend the money. That’s a better option for sure if you want the ability to adjust on the fly.

yes, i still like them. agreed on the ride. much smoother under load for sure but i'd install them all over again for sure.

@@bobbygfl I have a shell on mines so under load it'll probably suite me well than.

@@MrDoeMai yes for sure.

The overloads? What do mean? And I’m not sure the cost. They are on Amazon and installed easily.

yes for sure. the combination of the two is the best option for heavy loads.

@@bobbygfl I was debating getting AAL kit with the sumosprings. I may just go with Hellwig, then the sumos

Here’s the link: SSR-610-54 | SumoSprings Rear for Toyota Tundra, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Frontier, Nissan Titan www.amazon.com/dp/B01LVUZYIO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_N3QTBHBSDBZPY666R5HX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Yes weather hauling or towing the springs are incredible. I have the bed full of tile without the springs the thing sucks all the way to the bumper stops with the sumo springs it dropped about an inch and a half. Truly amazing I would put these on any truck I bought. They were there when you need them and they don’t do anything when you don’t.

@@bobbygfl awesome. Thanks for the info. Hey btw. I know the tacoma is rated for roughly 1.2k payload..but what do u think it's safe to load with these springs?

@@ivancespedes4624 I really have no idea. I have loaded down with a pallet of tile that sure seems like more weight than that. I’m sure there’s some breaking point I just have no idea what it would be.

It’s pretty rough agreed!

52 lbs but you should call sumo springs to verify.

They have ones that do. I believe they are longer and the bracket flange is different.

Yes. Check out my Tacoma playlist. I show the measurements. 2” in back 1” in front. About. Here’s the link ru-vid.com/group/PLsZvjE7Duh8SgsNkzad-stonXbhaWMTPP

These do not affect height without load. They don’t even touch. But this truck sits about 1.5” higher than stock.

About 200

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Mr Matt it’s hard to tell because there’s something in the way or the angle is not showing, but what I did was crank the jack about an 1” off the round wood pad it sits on when off the truck. At 10:07 you can see it, but again hard to tell it’s not touching the ground. With the full weight of the trailer tongue there’s barely any sag. It’s really amazing.

@@bobbygfl Your reply and video have been very helpful. I hope to add a set of Sumosprings to my Nissan this summer.

Im sure it does. Those are the wrong Sumo springs for his application. He needs the blue springs. The yellow are for a constantly fully loaded truck such as a camper top

No. They actually don’t even touch the frame.

Yes not as rough as a jeep my daughter has a jeep and frankly it’s rougher but like I said in my other comment with a couple hundred pounds load it as much smoother

I bet very good.

The ride is stiff but the yellow accomplished exactly what I wanted which was as little sag as possible. Thanks!

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Yes. It’ll fix both. So glad I did this.

The famous Tacoma and Tundra lean can be fixed with a quarter inch shim

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Yes! Not a single problem

The do a number of things. For you I believe preventing roll when turning. They will keep your set up tighter when turning. When hitting bumps under tow your suspension will recover quicker. For the money it’s totally worth it.

Agree, just from what I have read, sounds like for a Tacoma you would only want the blue or the black at most. But could be wrong as have not tried them yet, will be installing some blue ones next week.

@@gantfrost7749 howd it go? better ride? i’m gonna buy some

@@nigga7387 the ones they ordered me, came without the mounting bracket, could not use them, so in the end never did it. good luck with yours.

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Good to know!! Thank you

They are yellow. Not sure on the formula.

The yellow ones are very stiff and correct, not for off roading. I’m not sure any sumo spring would improve off-roading. I was going purely for payload increase. Thanks for the comment.

They make all 3 options for any truck. Each one is a different grade or stiffness.

I thought about that but if you want the payload in the bed to not cause the truck to squat the weight distribution hitch won’t do anything.

@@bobbygfl For large tongue weight I would use wdh and sumo but for less tongue weight the wdh will distribute the weight to the front end of the truck so the rear axle doesn't take all the tongue weight.

Me neither!

about 150.00

I’m not sure what you mean by size they are the ones designed for tacomas in the stiffest setting.

@@bobbygfl I was asking about the tire size setup. I love his wheel and tire package and want to do the same.

My objective was to have as little tailgate sag as possible. The yellow is the stiffest.

Yes. Makes sense and the springs totally fixed that. Trucks it’s level with the driver or passenger is doesn’t really matter

The gas tank is centered.

GVWR is still the same. these only help the sag.

No. It’ll increase your load capacity from a bottom out perspective but potentially be damaging the frame or other parts if you go be on the manufacturers load recommendation

Christopher Wade that’s interesting. Mine rub the frame constantly and look fine. Hope they resolve it.

Good to know thanks. Any resolution?

@@rj12345rj Yes, they eventually took care of it and sent me new springs.

BobaFettTundra that’s a great idea. It may be not mounted perfectly on the bracket. Good call.

Lmao...exactly what I was thinking. Must be used to lashing valves. Tight, then another quarter turn. ;) Thanks for the review. I just bought a set or Timbren for a lowered F-150.

That was actually cringy to watch. Lol

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From what i understand no. Just take the weight off the suspension, install and they sit where they sit. some contact is fine.

@@bobbygfl sweet ty

Agreed! Thanks for the comment!

Exactly, blue is for small trucks. Black and yellow are for medium to heavy duty.

Because he’s using them for towing?

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It’s not at all bouncy but it’s rougher than it was. To put it in perspective we also on a jeep wrangler four-door. The jeep is bouncier and it has a factory suspension. So I would not consider it too bad.

Not bounce. Stiffer and less flex

Well it’s a bit more value than just the lift. It’s mainly a payload value. But yes, about 1/2”

babi sanders it would definitely affect that and limit the range. I would not put these on for rock climbing. Strictly just for payload.

I was going for no sag.

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Lol. OK that’s funny

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I do agree with you. With a couple hundred pounds in the bed it’s much smoother

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I know! I sold my tundra got this beefed it up sold it got a raptor. I loved this truck but nothing beats a full size one.

@@bobbygfl totally agree.

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I thought it was priced ok

It’s not bad. A Jeep Wrangler factory is worse to make a comparison.

My daughter’s stock Jeep runs rougher so depends on what you consider bad. Thanks for the comment.

@Sean Knight, I have used RAS on my last four trucks. One Chevy S10, two Dodge Dakota's and now my Tacoma. Was still getting a lot of sag on my Tacoma so I added the blue sumo springs and kept the RAS. There is about 1-in clearance from the top of the sumo spring to the frame of the truck. There is no difference in the ride, only no or very little sag when I'm loaded up or pulling the trailer. Even then the ride is just fine.

Lol. No not really.