I wouldn't say grappling is a bad idea, and the concept of mma is to combine striking and grappling styles to broaden your knowledge. I train in ITF Taekwon-do but I don't leave out other martial arts, especially traditional Ju Jitsu, judo and even bjj as they've got alot of manipulation techniques and standing takedowns. Taekwon-do could win in mma but it would be safer to learn to survive on the ground too, just as a back up plan, if they're good on their feet, take them to the ground.
TKD is a good mix with MT.. Especially if you are tall.. very good striking. I took Karate for a bit and use a couple of Karate kicks when I spar in MT and people dont see those kicks coming. Osss!
Good to see sense talked on youtube, i try to ignore those ufc fans, i just think if they stay into MA's long enough and actually train they will see our points, otherwise they will move on and no need to worry about them.
You are right, i'm a practitioner and i would never fight like this in a real fight, people would criticize and say what i'm doing looks like muay thai and mma, and i'd say no it's tkd from the dojang not the competition, same as most ma's would look different outside.
@minase0906 I'm a TKD black belt, and I disargee with you, mostly because few TKD practicioners are trained in no holds barred fighting. The tools are there if you want to use them, but the problem is that TKD contests, especially Olympic ones are too rigid in their scoring system. It really causes many TKD people to only practice those kicks that will help them in competition. However, fighters like Anderson Silva use TKD in MMA, but know how to use the hands, and grappling holds as well.
Wanderlei isn't really a MT guy, tough. I also don think Cung is really a TKD either, I think he does this Chinese martial arts with takedowns.. forgot the name of it though.
well check it, a sport is a sport, mma has rules, and tkd has rules in their match, but when it comes down to using it, most people want to defend themselves against two or more people, so grappling or goin on the floor won't do the work, TKD ,which is mostly offensive, kicks ass, it can defend you against two or more people. i agree with 9SoulFire9
The thing that amuses me the ,most is when a jiu jitsu guy is getting is ass kicked by a stand up fighter so he lays down hoping the guy will grapple with him, or putting a knee on the floor in the clinch to avoid a knee to the face, and all the things you said, and that's what all the mma noobs think is the real deal, Machida is a good karate fighter though, seems to make the shotokan point sparring style work in a full fight.
My opinion to, I like to watch a UFC fight bit i don't like how all the fans think mma is invincible, jiu jitsu is the last thing i would try to use in a real life setting with more then one person, and all the strikes used in muay thai are used in most stand up styles. and they don't realize some of the elite fighters like Anderson silva and Machida are using very commen tkd and karate style kicks, they just get convinced by joe rogans comments. glad i started when i was 7 so i wasn't convinced
Ese de kick es un tierno, jamás el taekwondo le puede ganar al kick porque este segundo es un deporte de contacto muy duro y se concentra en lastimar con el hueso de la tibia las piernas o los brazos del oponente y los de taekwondo solo son entrenados para pegar rápido y escapar ,no están preparados para soportar los duros golpes con la huesos que pegan los de kick y hablo con conocimiento ya que soy 2 dan en taekwondo y cinturón negro en kickboxing y siempre gana el kick.
there are alot of militaries around the world who use taekwondo as a basis for their training and self defence techniques so saying it doesnt work isnt true. maybe for some people it hasnt but that is all on the person not on the martial art.
@9SoulFire9 Just as misguided it is for people to critique TKD sport practitioners for fighting with their hands down, its also misguided to critique mma practitioners for fighting on the ground. At the highest levels of sport both worlds take advantage of the protection offered to them by their respective sets of rules. Its not a good or bad thing its just how the game is played. In real life its not the style but the practitioner and the correct mind set of peace and prevention that prevails
@9SoulFire9 actually it done you can get examples from cung le who is from vietnam there is no WTF taekwondo there but ITF and Zelg Galesic from Croatia, there are another examples like Juraz.the thing is to search a little more, and not eat all that youtube shows
@176Aido I think exactly what I said, nothing more: falling is near equal to a loss in an aggressive street fight scenario. The other guy, although got his nose crunched, stayed solid on his two feet that that alone can go a very long way. Do me a favor, don't consider anything "clear" about me. You don't even know me, let alone how many and what kind of situations I went trough. Ever been in a knife fight? Errors (such as falling) are expensive when push comes to shove.
its the art and the person but if the art doesnt full contact spar with very few rules and wrestle,that person wont be very effective against another trained man.The art defines the methods and the methods define how effective youl be.The art is therefore crucial to success.
@@RNRLIBRARY theres no protection on his nose,its just a head guard .nasal fractures take little force,I've had several and it wouldn't even stop the match if not for the blood.
@frannckopz f ue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz?? por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
@pigballs911 Point Prooven good sir but isn`t it more important to train in the Martial Art you are good at which makes you happy? I don`t train TKD,Muay Thai and normal boxing because i want to beat everybody up. I have fun by training. That is what counts. And btw. it is always the fighter who is responsible for his lost or his wins not the Martial art. In fact of course there is no TKD or Kung fu in UFC, when you see the heavy weight.You have to be incredible fast to score a hit with your leg
@sanmiguelangel2010 I have sparred hong, and he is no joke. The guy hits really hard with almost no telegraphing. If you don't believe me, ask the dude with the broken nose.
@amdkickboxer It is NOT the martial art that sucks. I don`t care if its Muay thai, kick boxing, Kung fu, Karate, MMA. Its they person who is just not a good fighter. Comparing martial art styles is dumb anyway :P
Does anyone know what the rules of the match were? I'm taking this is obviously semi contact. I am somewhat disappointed in the kick boxer. His guard was all over the place, you can't protect your head with your hands flapping about and there were too many missed opportunities for the kick boxer to have taken advantage over.
@parahumanoid I think street fights are very different to what you go through in a ring - you have rules etc. and you can afford to be creative in your combinations (which implies falling). When in a tight situation where you defend urself, you have to compromise the opponent into a state where he cannot retaliate....the two are inseperable I get it. I am just saying that I disagree with your conclusion that you draw from a fall in a fight with rules
@frannckopz fue ko tenico, viste que al peleador de kick le empeso a sangrar là nariz por eso, pero un peleador de kick que usara bien las piernas o de MT mata a uno de TK
man who gives a shit which style works better on the streets. unless you're soem ufc/strikforce champion, you are NOT going to be beating up 4 other dudes with your so called "superior" martial art. When you are on streets, that is where your cardio is put to the test if you see multiple guys/
@parahumanoid so u think because he fell over once he automatically loses the fight ?? well even if u do tkd u clearly nvr compete if u think thats true lol
Where is the knockout? Anyhow, although I practice TKD myself, in this case the TKD guy wasn't that great. He fell on his ass would have been dead meat in the street scenario. So I'm not sure I'd agree with the judge's decision here.
