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@taggrading
@taggrading 2 месяца назад
Thank you to you and all of you who support TAG. We appreciate you understanding that we will never be perfect. When mistakes happen, we will own up to them and do our best to make them right. We value integrity and transparency in the hobby which is why we include reporting for every card; those principles are what the company was founded on.
@ugandanknuckles464
@ugandanknuckles464 2 месяца назад
tag to the moon
@RayQ101
@RayQ101 2 месяца назад
Then pay him for the difference you buffoons 😂 Literal scam AI company that makes mistakes a human wouldn’t
@eunit599
@eunit599 2 месяца назад
Yea some grading vouchers really “makes it right”. Great job guys
@ChiefManny1
@ChiefManny1 2 месяца назад
T-800 made a mistake, because T-1000 was on vacation at the time of grading.
@MaelthasDivine
@MaelthasDivine 2 месяца назад
PSA IS KING foh garbage
@Johto-Jake
@Johto-Jake 2 месяца назад
If this happened to anyone else that didn't share their transparency in a video, this card would stay in circulation like so many other cards across every grading company including TAG. It is a bummer that this happened to you, and I hope they do right by you for being so compliant and supportive.Them giving you some free subs is great and all, but when it comes down to it, you are only helping them and they should recognize that for what it is. Great video Greeny, really curious as to where this lands on the scale once it's all said and done. Oh and btw... GeT wReckEd
@Peanutbutter-mf1gw
@Peanutbutter-mf1gw 2 месяца назад
DaGreenShizz makes questionable choices for his business at every turn, him running to TAG and having this outcome isn't surprising at all lmao.
@Nanp90
@Nanp90 2 месяца назад
This Zapdos card is becoming the true Mascot of the channel 😂
@KetchumAllCollectibles
@KetchumAllCollectibles 2 месяца назад
This is what we subscribe for. Greeny getting wrecked lol. PC grail keep that bad boy for life.
@damexicanhipstr6572
@damexicanhipstr6572 2 месяца назад
DAN glad that the eyes are off him after getting Cute with a billionaire 😅
@KetchumAllCollectibles
@KetchumAllCollectibles 2 месяца назад
@@damexicanhipstr6572 your and brads eyes always on me
@damexicanhipstr6572
@damexicanhipstr6572 2 месяца назад
​@@KetchumAllCollectiblessome ppl just wanna see the World 🌎 Burn 🔥 especially Cute Pillars of the Hobby😂
@beerskicollects
@beerskicollects 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the follow up video! Very interesting turn of events. I’m glad they hooked you up and are making it right on their end. Curious on how they will be adjusting their AI to pick up more of these flaws.
@FatBellyCollects
@FatBellyCollects 2 месяца назад
Only reason it was deactivated was because you shit on the card in a video and they were like yeah we ducked up.
@ivanaytor93
@ivanaytor93 2 месяца назад
Computer says yes, then says no.
@jonathanlibeskind7641
@jonathanlibeskind7641 2 месяца назад
Nice one
@ChiefManny1
@ChiefManny1 2 месяца назад
T-1000 was on vacation at the time. 🤪
@jessepeng1317
@jessepeng1317 2 месяца назад
Josh deserves a lot of credit for making a video and being transparent with the history of the Zapdos, everything he did here was not to his benefit, he could’ve kept the card in a 10 slab and been happy with it, but he wanted to share his results with the world. Also props to TAG for owning up to this and attempting to make things right with Josh while taking accountability. At the end of the day TAG is new disruptor in this space and is constantly refining their technology to bring accuracy consistency and transparency to our hobby. This was a valuable data point for them and I’m sure it will help them perfect the technology moving forward.
@Quilly_B
@Quilly_B 2 месяца назад
wild times, a very informative saga that makes my internal rants about automated grading only louder. TAG 5 incoming
@skippyfx
@skippyfx 2 месяца назад
Poor man is experiencing the full stages of grief with this card.
@damexicanhipstr6572
@damexicanhipstr6572 2 месяца назад
If i were u then id just keep it in the same case n not send it back. You said its for your PC then keep it in that case with amazing story. Keep it in the background for the world to see. 20 free subs aint nothing compared to this amazing story of Greeny Fumbling the Ball😅
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 2 месяца назад
Luckily he is not u lol
@MonotoneCards
@MonotoneCards 2 месяца назад
I think they'd probably want it back to run it through again and see why their technology didn't catch it originally so they can make their AI/technology improve. Still a great slab design
@94Ninsound94
@94Ninsound94 2 месяца назад
That’s the point. I don’t understand people getting a jab at a company using AI to remove human subjectivity while grading. If this case can provide any kind of insight and information into their system to improve it’s a win. The tool and system is still developed and design with human so it’s not perfect.
@PokeMage87
@PokeMage87 2 месяца назад
Greeny, never give in. Keep that cursed Zapdos forever lol
@Ian22222221
@Ian22222221 2 месяца назад
Send that thing to AGS LMAO😂
@EricDrinksWater
@EricDrinksWater 2 месяца назад
Massive props for making the video in the first place. We all knew this was likely to happen. Better than PSA accidentally giving a 6 a 10, then refusing their payout guarantee thing.
@TheFriskySquid
@TheFriskySquid 2 месяца назад
Never tell a grading company that they gave your card a 10. Ever. Even if it is perfect and nothing wrong with it. The companies have no idea what cards are getting 10s unless they are $200,000 cards. That's why cards that get a 10 that people find that are obviously a 7 a best suddenly get deactivated. edit: that said, it sounds like they at least made up for it with the refunds and such. PSA probably woulda just deactivated it and you never hear from them again
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 2 месяца назад
Basically the reason companies are going towards nfts. To avoid these fiascos. And shipping is becoming a headache… hence a person lost 2 mil of cards shipping to best western
@ProfessorOakYouTube
@ProfessorOakYouTube 2 месяца назад
Let’s lawyer up
@damexicanhipstr6572
@damexicanhipstr6572 2 месяца назад
But they don't have any guarantees tho😅
@Glurakgluu2882
@Glurakgluu2882 2 месяца назад
Losing out on 5 figures on value (which they wouldn't have recognized without your video) compensated with 20 free grades which cost them close to nothing is a joke in my opinion. If they really optimize their system with your help now, i'd expect at least 100 free grades or better - cash
@EricDrinksWater
@EricDrinksWater 2 месяца назад
Yeah. People saying this is a W for TAG are dusted. He gets a few cards graded at a place where the grade is worthless anyways, and can look forward to getting a 6 in the mail. Massive L.
@dudechris88
@dudechris88 2 месяца назад
@@EricDrinksWater The only massive L are the people that simultaneously can feel a mistake TAG 10 grade on a damaged card is somehow still worth full value while being upset at TAG for protecting their grading quality and thus value of their grades in the first place. You guys are pants on head.
@EricDrinksWater
@EricDrinksWater Месяц назад
@@dudechris88 k
@SakuraCache
@SakuraCache 2 месяца назад
Absolutely NOOOOO shot you send that back to them! Tell them to take a hike, defects like this slide through every grading company every day of the week. Keep the matching 10 in your collection. If they need a card with an indent then I'm sure it's not hard to reproduce on any old card - they don't need your 4-figure card to practice on (not to mention the extra risk shipping it places over and over again).
@1stedition887
@1stedition887 2 месяца назад
Facts. I hope he keeps it and doesn’t send it back to them. Like he said it is pc anyway. They will lower the grade and although it does have that small indent the rest of the card does look clean. He feels the card is clean so that’s all that matters at the end of the day. Don’t let a grading company tell you what it is or isn’t they mess up all the time. Don’t let them take this W away. Close the chapter on this one.
@poke_collectables
@poke_collectables 2 месяца назад
Props to Josh for this and for likely creating more content for some poketubers to react to! He letting everyone eat!
@joeybrown567
@joeybrown567 2 месяца назад
I feel like all companies who use AI for grading should have a professional grader review the card after to make sure the AI correctly graded it. Mistakes can happen with AI like this, having someone review the grade after to make sure it is graded correctly will solve these kinds of mistakes
@TrueBlueCollectibles
@TrueBlueCollectibles 2 месяца назад
Nice to see that they owned up to their system having flaws. Just like with human grading at any of the main companies PSA, BGS, CGC, or SGC, they all make mistakes and miss things. They all make things 10's that shouldn't be or wouldn't be 10's elsewhere. I haven't graded with TAG but I really dig their slabs. And honestly, computer grading is the only way to have the most consistent results. As humans we have too many variances in our opinions of what a defect is or isn't and how much that affects the grade.
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 2 месяца назад
One of millions
@pomom123
@pomom123 2 месяца назад
Only if you would kept it as a CGC 9.5 you could’ve easily crossed it to a 10 😢. No one really saw those changes coming tho
@eunit599
@eunit599 2 месяца назад
“Outlier” lol
@MrMasterSet
@MrMasterSet 2 месяца назад
Aside from this experience, what do you think of TAG? The slabs look clean, and the company is based in Europe, right?
@arnold-moger
@arnold-moger 2 месяца назад
Honestly TAG should payout the price difference like PSA does when they make mistakes like this.
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 2 месяца назад
They should give him 100,000,000
@dudechris88
@dudechris88 2 месяца назад
@@jamesnguyen7069 why not a clean billy?
@ChiefManny1
@ChiefManny1 2 месяца назад
Hah! A real man takes the grade he is given! How many times you resubitted?! Know humility, stay humble. 😜
@eunit599
@eunit599 2 месяца назад
I thought they claimed to be the most accurate… hmmm
@damexicanhipstr6572
@damexicanhipstr6572 2 месяца назад
GREENY single handedly proved that their 1k point scale is a sham
@eunit599
@eunit599 2 месяца назад
@@damexicanhipstr6572 They should pay Greeny the difference between the 10 price and whatever grade it comes back as.
@erncollects
@erncollects 2 месяца назад
Greeny beat the bots? Definitely following him when doomsday comes and Skynet takes over
@JavaAkuma
@JavaAkuma 2 месяца назад
It's good to own up to mistakes but at the same time it creates a very questionable precedent. For example, if I had bought that card from you, and found the dent, and made a video about it, would TAG deactivate the cert? Thankfully you were the original grader but a buyer would be screwed at that point. I thought about doing some cross grading from other companies to TAG for a video but now I feel like they will just deactivate any that grade higher than they did at the other companies...
@MomentsWithNick
@MomentsWithNick 2 месяца назад
Clean cards within 60/40 that got a 9 at PSA, because they aren't perfectly centered, might still be good candidates to send for an experiment. As per TAG, a Gem Mint 10 needs to have 55/45 front centering. Centering is probably the easiest metric to measure with a computer and imo the most inconsistently applied one at PSA.
@tsgthesleepinggiant
@tsgthesleepinggiant 2 месяца назад
Dont send it back!! Its history now!
@Pika_Drew
@Pika_Drew 2 месяца назад
Their mistake may have cost you 4 figures in value, but hey, at least you’ve got some grading vouchers! Jokes aside, I do appreciate that they attempted to make it right. You knew what was up to begin with and while it’s surely a bummer, it’s mostly understandable.
@dudechris88
@dudechris88 2 месяца назад
What is the logic behind a mistake grade = the card is actually worth that grade?
@AndreaDuh
@AndreaDuh 2 месяца назад
Some proof that AI grading isn't as bulletproof that people make it seem to be.
@ANONAM1Z
@ANONAM1Z 2 месяца назад
I honestly thought they would do that it’s still an insane card man I really want to one day own the creature deck marnie just because I’m a full art trainer collector over everything else for the most part keep your head up man 💯
@RecardedPulls
@RecardedPulls Месяц назад
Shoots, I was excited to try TAG. My first time getting cards graded (less than 10), I'm still gojng to give it a shot. My question is... On reselling cards, Is it better to get the cards X Graded or S Graded?
@dagreenshiz
@dagreenshiz Месяц назад
I am waiting on my submission with the more expensive costs right now. Just preference I'd say. I'd probably just do the more expensive one when your trying to be on top.
@UrAveragePlayer0
@UrAveragePlayer0 2 месяца назад
Sooooo AGS, ACE or SGC? 😂
@iMixMaSteR1
@iMixMaSteR1 2 месяца назад
Sell it to Sean Ballsak
@Doors067
@Doors067 2 месяца назад
Imagine being a small AI based grading company and having to explain that your giving 10s to danaged cards 😂
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 2 месяца назад
You are* not your lol 😂
@iFOMO23
@iFOMO23 2 месяца назад
Still a 10 to me❤
@bradgcardz
@bradgcardz 2 месяца назад
Don't send it back. Who cares if its deactivated. You were stuck with that thing for life when you put it in that damn clamp and damaged it. I'd tell TAG to kick rocks and display it in my background for all future videos
@misterscorbunny5524
@misterscorbunny5524 2 месяца назад
Right?
@SakuraCache
@SakuraCache 2 месяца назад
This. Tell them to practice on some other crappy card.
@KetchumAllCollectibles
@KetchumAllCollectibles 2 месяца назад
Get out the chapstick
@damexicanhipstr6572
@damexicanhipstr6572 2 месяца назад
Damn
@pokebb
@pokebb 2 месяца назад
Slab still says “10” so we still winning in my book 🚀 Will be interesting to see how this all turns out. Wonder if there’s data to backup the “outlier” statement
@kamb8s
@kamb8s 2 месяца назад
Non human observable defect hahahahahahaha what
@taggrading
@taggrading 2 месяца назад
To explain what we mean, NHOD is the term we use to refer to defects that should not be counted toward grading deductions by the system. The system picks up very small defects that would not be counted toward "industry standard" grading assessment. Our system is designed to replicate industry standards on a consistent basis, not to create a new one that is too high for anyone's liking. Non-Human-Observable-Defects (NHOD) are identified and documented by the technology during the grading process - these primarily include extremely small defects for the most part invisible except under intense magnification. In this case the defect on his card was considered an NHOD when it should have been classified as a defect. NHODs are used primarily to create digital fingerprints of graded cards rather than as factors in TAG’s card grades.
@Peanutbutter-mf1gw
@Peanutbutter-mf1gw 2 месяца назад
@@taggrading So he lost about $20k in value from your mistake lmao
@damexicanhipstr6572
@damexicanhipstr6572 2 месяца назад
Biggest Joke, right Kam😅
@EricDrinksWater
@EricDrinksWater 2 месяца назад
This is what my mom calls me.
@94Ninsound94
@94Ninsound94 2 месяца назад
@@Peanutbutter-mf1gw he knew the condition of the card prior to send it to TAG, he has lost nothing but time/money due to submitting not 20k … Or the 20k is what he paid in insurance?
@Drewtini383
@Drewtini383 2 месяца назад
Nooooooo!
@statrunner
@statrunner 2 месяца назад
I would keep it as the cursed Zapdos but you at 97 and your starving grand kids will thank you
@justjack21
@justjack21 2 месяца назад
Why even bother sending it back to get a TAG 7 or whatever. If younwanted the 10 so back, regardless of condition, you got it. I dont know man. This part of the hobby is a bit gross. Nice card though
@moztcg
@moztcg 2 месяца назад
RIP
@ShiningCardsandCollectibles
@ShiningCardsandCollectibles 2 месяца назад
TAG 10!? More like BAG 10!!
@iMixMaSteR1
@iMixMaSteR1 2 месяца назад
Ayoooooo
@the13thkillzone
@the13thkillzone 2 месяца назад
imagine if you straight up sold the card and didn't make a video, someone else would've gotten insanely screwed. looks like this is another slab company to stay away from. 👍
@RayQ101
@RayQ101 2 месяца назад
I saw this from a mile away lmao Go look up who runs TAG and how many “employees” they have. It’s a joke of a company, makes sense why they “sell out” on grading subs and still make huge errors.
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 2 месяца назад
Pretty much the reason pokemon is going all digital soon. Nft> physical 😂
@RayQ101
@RayQ101 2 месяца назад
@@jamesnguyen7069 It isn’t going to be an NFT though? It’s going to be a mobile version of the already existing card game but dumbed down with quick play and some unique art.
@pullgang4097
@pullgang4097 2 месяца назад
​@@RayQ101 where are the "employees" listed? this all sounds HGA Part 2 - claim AI technology and empty tech buzzwords to get people to trust when the cards are just handled by a bunch of teens
@72jmunoz
@72jmunoz 16 дней назад
lmao still cant find youre vid were you explane the ding on the card and if you have it on hand show the dam ding in the tag case wtf keep it real what are you reading show the letter email click bait is right lmao
@dagreenshiz
@dagreenshiz 15 дней назад
I showed the letter. Screenshot it baby if you really care that much lmao my video uploading today at noon shows the latest grade from TAG and another note from their CEO. cheers.
@tiff1913
@tiff1913 2 месяца назад
I don't exactly think having a Pokemon card deactivated by a non PSA or BGS company, like TAG, means much
@Alma-B
@Alma-B 2 месяца назад
If eBay auth won’t certify the grading company it is 🚮
@aTrashBin
@aTrashBin 2 месяца назад
TAG 👉🏼IS SO BAD 👎🏼 THAT I GAG 🤮... on some glizzies..👹
@sethdudley547
@sethdudley547 2 месяца назад
Ok well now everyone knows this company is a joke. I don’t know why anyone would ever use them or buy a TAG slab after seeing this.
@stupidguitar17
@stupidguitar17 2 месяца назад
AI grading is 💩
@awllmann363
@awllmann363 2 месяца назад
People calling this an L are tripping. He sends his card back in and gets it and 20 other cards graded for free. Then potentially gets inroads with a grading company. Easy W
@RayQ101
@RayQ101 2 месяца назад
Lol you are blind as hell. A TAG 10 Creatures Zapdos is well above “free 20 card submissions”. PSA would have paid him the difference in price.
@iMixMaSteR1
@iMixMaSteR1 2 месяца назад
*shit grading company
@andrewcarter1104
@andrewcarter1104 2 месяца назад
it's a big L
@RayQ101
@RayQ101 2 месяца назад
The moron deleted my comment 😂 still clutching to TAG
@EricDrinksWater
@EricDrinksWater 2 месяца назад
Massive, massive L.
@MaelthasDivine
@MaelthasDivine 2 месяца назад
F TAG GRADING.. SEND IT TO PSA SEND IT TO PSA SEND IT TO PSA SEND IT TO PSA
@NostalgiaNomics
@NostalgiaNomics 2 месяца назад
Cmon my dude. When will you stop screwing around with all these grading companies 🫣
@iMixMaSteR1
@iMixMaSteR1 2 месяца назад
Hga to the moon
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