Tai Chi Guy Steps Into The Cage Again 

that could be a fun jiujitsu battle

I want to see tiger style kung fu on this channel

Any word on what date this fight will take place?

That’s silly

@@atheist-karate-guy what is

@@hanu9830 it looks like to me, like you are just making excuses, it either works or it doesn’t…

@@hanu9830 literally nothing he did was any kung/gung fu… he did one basic technique that worked, and ate punches to the face… let’s have a bit of humility here,

@@atheist-karate-guy "it either works or it doesnt"? even a casual mma fan knows this isnt true. does jumping on a guillotine work? sometimes yes, sometimes no. does a spinning capoiera kick to the head work? sometimes yes, sometimes no

Keep that way.. fighting is not healthy.. save yourself in the park and living room.. don't market tai chi for combat.. As MMA hobbyist.. i love to spar with aikido and tai chi for fun and laugh.. totally stress relief

My love for tai chi grows with age, mainly because when when im wounded (which is all the time now that im old) its the least painful exercise and the best for healing.

​@boyingmachete3255 I mean, u saw this video right? Tai chi has legitimate applications, just isn't practiced by most ppl like that. The mma guy wasn't a slouch either I think what happens w tai chi, Kung fu etc. They got lost in trasnlation over the centuries. This channel showcases that. There's dudes making these art forms work, it's just rare bc they aren't taught effectively

@@cloudmaster182 its not pure tai chi.. tai chi in what essence?.. what tai chi promotes?.. where was the tai chi move that caused significant damage or defensive move?.. just use it for relaxation at home/park, stop claiming it a fighting style.. What i watched was nothing of tai chi but pure MMA fundamentals.

@boyingmachete3255 ppl have said for a long time that it emphasizes grappling techniques and using an opponents momentum against them, in the video we see that happen multiple times. It originated as a fighting art. It's not that hard for martial arts to become watered down and functionless and that's what happened w these ones. That doesn't mean they have zero practical applications. It seems like a rly simple concept to understand. I practice MMA and outside of some karate, don't rly do too much of these traditional arts, but it makes perfect sense and there's footage all over the internet to back it up. Even if 99% of practitioners do tend to get their asses beat, there's still that 1% that actually spar and know how to fight while still utilizing their trained techniques and principles. They do exist lmao But yea, it's not "pure". There's nothing "pure" about an MMA match. There's literally no art that u can rely on solely in MMA for more than maybe a couple matches of catching an opponent off guard. That's kinda the point of MMA

Second all that

He even pull him up after the round 😂

Coming to comment the same. Sweep at 5:32 was a basic scissor sweep. Props to the tai chi guy though because he is really relaxed and his scissor sweep and mount sweep looked pretty effortless.

@@AOMartialArts he's very patient and cool under pressure. He's got a very active guard, he's mitigating the damage, and he's just waiting for his opportunity. When he sees it, he calmly executes it (the scissor sweep). For someone who's clearly a beginner, his ability to stick to his game plan under that kind of real-world pressure is very impressive.

It's a sweep 'right foot left foot divides' 6:14

@@1easymoney155 At 6:14 it really looks like he’s going for a basic Kimura from guard. That said, just because you’re going for a Kimura from guard doesn’t mean you’re not also trying to sweep, because threatening the Kimura is often a setup for a hip bump sweep or vice versa. Still, it doesn’t seem like he knew about that combination yet, or he felt for some reason that it wasn’t a good option for him. Can you link a video of the sweep you’re suggesting? I’ve never heard of it.

@@elenchuslook up tai chi left leg seperates

That would be awesome!

@@FightCommentary love the videos your videos really help spice up training

it's a basic jiujitsu guard for MMA. you're constantly moving your head to dodge shots and "swimming" up through their arms to parry shots and seek grips or set up submissions. It'd be better if he could use that to get an overhook (wrap around one of his arms) and then he could start to work an offensive guard, although in fairness he was able to get a clean sweep to mount which is all you really need in guard anyway. It's all like old school Gracie stuff.

​@@elenchusit's done in most fighting styles tho. Many boxing gyms teach how to do it, most Kung Fu styles also did. Some Filipino martial arts also do

@@jestfullgremblim8002 I guess I need some clarification; I read “redirecting shots into the floor” as referring to being in the guard and dodging ground and pound shots, but if he’s speaking in some more esoteric sense of standing and exchanging shots and somehow sending them to the “floor,” then I’ve got no idea.

@@elenchus His guard while standing was tai chi not iui jitsu.

@@elenchus It's only "esoteric" in the sense that, for some reason, most people don't make this principle a training goal. but actually the concept is quite mundane in terms of the physics involved. The basic idea is to meet the opponent's attack with just the right level of resistance and alignment, so that the force of the attack is totally dissipated. i.e. the attack seems to connect but doesn't affect you as much as the opponent expected. "redirecting the shots to the floor" just means that the force passes through you (and usually into the ground) without harming your structure, like an earth wire redirecting a lightning strike into the ground. ( Balance is key. If you're too stiff, you get jarred by the attack. If you're too limp or not aligned well, you collapse. If you dodge, you give ground to the opponent (if the latter's very persistent). ) When done right, you can indeed "swim through" the opponent's attacks and take him/her down. In fact, this balance of softness and assertiveness is THE defining ideal of Taiji. At least, this was what Taiji was originally developed for. Compared to that, the shape of the "moves" doesn't actually matter. (unfortunately, even a lot of "Taiji students" aren't aware of this, because it's indeed much easier to show and teach the shape of the "moves" than to train the subtle control of force and alignment. the end result is that a lot of what gets labelled as "Taiji" nowadays is just "Taiji" in form but not substance.) If it doesn't sound very special to you, keep in mind that Taiji was developed a few centuries ago, long before "jiujutsu for MMA" as you know it was a thing.

it can be bait as well as muaythai had high guard open sometime😂

Really? I saw a very basic, beginner level sweep….. anyone doing bjj for 6 months could do the same……. Seems to me, some here are “impressed”, not because of technique, but just to show national pride..it’s cool, but it’s obvious.

@@atheist-karate-guy the guy in blue is a Tai Chi practitioner, not a BJJ practitioner. And they are both Chinese, so it isn't about national pride.

@@davidcdun8896 what I’m saying is, he obviously learned a bit of bjj, it wasn’t “kung/gung fu. The national pride is in their system of kung fu…not the people… for some reason, the times someone says something positive about the effectiveness of the Chinese systems, it’s only the Chinese people, people that are trained in the martial arts that have no biases normally see it my way.

@@davidcdun8896 a HS wrestler from just about any school in the us could destroy most kung fu “masters”, this is reality, there are exceptions to the rule like Sanda, but that’s a very new sport, it’s not a traditional system, made up in the 20’s.

@@davidcdun8896 he's ostensibly tai chi and BJJ. The sweep is a very conventional BJJ sweep that all white belts learn. Props to him though on a clean execution, and the scissor sweep can be harder in no gi without the grips.

I hope so too

What are you taking about??? He can't even identify an inside trip or a basic bjj guard sweep.

I agree, but I think he has good jiujitsu potential

You noticed that real point.

He’s back soon. So stay tuned!

Imagine he use Fajin 😊

Whats the chinese characters for “running thunder”? I’ll take a look.

@@FightCommentary I’m afraid I can’t help you with the characters. If you search Chen ting hung, I’m sure you’ll find the information you need

Not sure what the Chinese characters are, but running thunder hand is basic striking practice for Practical Tai Chi Chuan. In this system striking is equally important to grappling. Notable people to check out would be Cheng Tin Hung and Dan Docherty.

Not "kata" that's Japanese.

@@AniWho268 I am using it generically, instead of the correct Chinese character.

@@reverendfry6088 "Kata" is used generically? Even though it's from a different language?

@@AniWho268 Sure, you knew it meant martial exercises for muscle memory and conditioning.

@@reverendfry6088 I'm talking about language, not what it actually is. I've specifically mentioned language twice now. I'm asking if "kata" which is Japanese is also used to describe Chinese forms since that's how you used it.

You mean he is mma fighter? mma means mixed martial arts like combining different martial arts boxing wrestling and judo etc. He added his tai chi other forms of martial arts.

Probably! I’ll hopefully interview him. Gonna reach out to Terry to see if he can connect me. Keep you posted! Good hearing from you!

@hard2hurt How do you run a popular martial arts channel, and you don't know basic tai chi. 90% of the stand-up was tai chi wrestling. This is what we do all day in class.

tai chi, at least according to commentators, is whatever it needs to be at any particular moment. If a tai chi striker loses, it was because real tai chi is wrestling. If a tai chi wrestler loses, it's because real tai chi is striking. There are tai chi videos where the tai chi guys are using Greco Roman wrestling techniques which some argue are duplicated in tai chi moves, so that's where the idea that tai chi is really just a Chinese version of GR wrestling comes from. As the style is literally called "tai chi fist (chuan)" one presumes it was probably heavily oriented towards striking, if anything at all, but it's entirely possible that, like many traditional striking styles, it included a handful of throws/sweeps as well. A lot of martial arts are essentially the same thing as the Voynich Manuscript. People are handed the Voynich Manuscript, told that it may contain the secrets of existence, and then they spend several lifetimes attempting to decode it. Everyone has a theory on what it really means, or even that it means nothing at all, but no one can actually prove it. Likewise, understanding what tai chi or bagua or numerous other styles is basically just an enigma of unknown value, and because the meaning is so far indecipherable, everyone is free to just assert whatever they want about it. They might just be ritualistic dances (my best guess), or they may be wrestling, or striking, or they may contain the secret to developing chi energy powers or a healthier life, who knows.

Wrestling isn't just groundwork, though. There are several standing styles such as English, Scottish Backhold, and Sumo. One of the more prominent advocates for Tai Chi being wrestling is MMA coach Ramsey Dewey.

Pay attention to the commentators words from :48 too about 2:00. Look at his structure and muscle relaxation and the fact that he wasn't even sweating or breathing hard at the end And the way he fought standup as though he were in a trance. That's tai chi. Forget all this talk about " Oh, he did this technique, it's a blah blah blah technique,not tai chi".

He’s made so many improvements since last time we featured him. Really excited to see how he can incorporate head movement into his tai chi practice!

Iron in silk not just silk*😊

Good chin

@@robleyusuf2566 that’s not a good thing

True hahahaha, must Kung Fu people forget that they should practice head movement if they are going to keep their hands low. Or at least some good distance management

@@atheist-karate-guy that is mma mixed martial arts. mma is a hybrid.

@@robleyusuf2566 cool, but it’s not tai chi …. It’s a hybrid of systems that work, tai chi is not part of it. The problem with the Chinese systems is that, they use magical thinking, chi/ki is a great example, it isn’t real, but most Chinese systems train as if it were. It’s not their fault, magical thinking is part of the Chinese culture, few people take kung/ gung fu seriously and rightfully so. Sure there are new Chinese systems that are more combative, but those are very few and far between let alone being an actual Chinese system. This is not against Chinese people, this is against their magical thinking.

Iv never seen a mma fighter use wavey hands before lol

8:05 Must be very humiliating to be an mma practitioner and have a tai chi man catch your kick and throw you down on the floor and punch you in the face just for mind and body exercise.

The whole third round was tai chi.

@@CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe that’s silly…..

@@atheist-karate-guy The hand and arm movements, the guard, the takedown, and the fact that he wasn't on his back the whole round. The only reason he didn't stay on his feet was too get low enough for ground and pound.

@@CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe again, you are watching a completely different fight…or just seeing what you want to, which is my bet

@@atheist-karate-guy His tai chi improved his Bjjj and his Bjj improved his tai chi. That's smart.