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Tai Chi Master Wang Zhanhai vs Judo 

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Watch Tai Chi Master Wang Zhanhai test his skills against a Judo practitioner. Master Wang will resist the judo practitioner's attempts to throw him.
Master Wang Zhanhai is a master instructor at Jet Li's Taiji Zen Online Academy. The Taiji Zen Online Academy is an ingenious platform for learning Tai Chi Chuan. Whether you are a beginner or a more advanced Tai Chi Chuan practitioner you will find quality content on the Online Academy.

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@bullfrogjay4383
@bullfrogjay4383 3 года назад
I remembered getting Uchi Mata'd into another dimension by a Judoka who had only trained one year. I think this Judoka in the video was being very gentle and polite.
@krommer66
@krommer66 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣 My first real judo match I was also sent to another dimension.
@mickeyk9218
@mickeyk9218 Год назад
Yes, uchi mada would have done the trick easily! This clip is bullsheido!
@joshuam4993
@joshuam4993 Год назад
@@mickeyk9218 Nope. I studied both judo and taiji. Taiji is weird, you can literally ground yourself so deeply and absorb force that even my previous judo friends couldn't uproot me. It's not very practical, as a fighting art. But if you mixed them together it would be very powerful. People don't understand taiji and how subtly powerful the grounding is. Its like trying to up root a bamboo root fully dug 20 feet into the ground. It will bend and redirect force but it won't break.
@KingoftheJiangl
@KingoftheJiangl 11 месяцев назад
​@@joshuam4993yes I also study taichi and judo. This judo guy was not trying.
@saborescriollos5602
@saborescriollos5602 5 месяцев назад
Ive sparred a judo guy..it didnt go like you said and he wasnt able to throw me
@That1CommentGuy
@That1CommentGuy 5 лет назад
Title should be called, “Judo Black Belt politely build Tai Chi master’s self-esteem”
@rexguy7823
@rexguy7823 4 года назад
If you know what people are trying to do - throw you, and you drop your stance, it's actually quite believable. Oh I forgot, we're not meant to like anything Chinese now..my bad..It's all BS & tai chi is crap
@christofl6523
@christofl6523 4 года назад
No kidding, that Judo guy would wreck that silly Tai Chi "master."
@rexguy7823
@rexguy7823 4 года назад
@@christofl6523 Welcome to the world of "It's not actually a fighting video where we compare styles"
@christofl6523
@christofl6523 4 года назад
@@rexguy7823 Welcome to the world of bullshido.
@rexguy7823
@rexguy7823 4 года назад
@angel666 I have nothing against judo, I think it's one of the best MA out there simply because they actually get on the mats & practice. A lot of striking arts end up with people standing in lines punching the air. What I'm disagreeing with is the idea that the judo guys in this video were not actually trying. The way I see it is the Chinese guy had a decent stance, end of story. But some people are saying that it's a Chinese communist plot to entrench kung fu, that they bribed the judo guys to go easy on him..I just think that's a load of horse sh^t
@jjvanzyl3075
@jjvanzyl3075 4 года назад
You can clearly see that this was rehearsed. Why, I do not know. The judo guy did not even try to use any real judo techniques.
@LibraryAstro
@LibraryAstro 4 года назад
I always wonder if China expects people to believe these elementary lies. It's pure mockery of our intelligence.
@SI00000
@SI00000 4 года назад
@@LibraryAstro Its clearly fake because of the slow pace and the fact that the Judo guy doesn't put any power behind anything he pretends to do, nor does he position himself for any real throw or takedown.
@chrisulmer694
@chrisulmer694 4 года назад
Sayyidilyas You’re right, that Tai Chi stuff is truly bad ass.Because Tai Chi masters can use the force of chi to their advantage, they are always having to pull back from hurting their opponent at all of these filmed events. Tai Chi = truly deadly.
@CorporaMedicina
@CorporaMedicina 4 года назад
@@chrisulmer694 "...can use the force of chi to their advantage," there is no such thing as chi...
@chrisulmer694
@chrisulmer694 4 года назад
savcob I know what you’re saying and I totally agree and that’s why you put that in quotation marks. These other martial arts guys who go up against a Tai Chi master don’t believe there is anything such as chi until it’s too late and then SMACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@wardragonprime
@wardragonprime 6 лет назад
I studied judo for two years and there's no way you're going to tell me this video is for real.
@mikesmith-ie6st
@mikesmith-ie6st 4 года назад
Ahahahaah yeah don t cry a lot😏 😏 😏
@wardragonprime
@wardragonprime 4 года назад
Judo is an EXCELLENT style to learn about stability, connection, and leverage. It is also good for realizing the only way you learn self defense is by working up a sweat, NOT by waving your hands around and taking part in bogus demonstrations. Just for the record, I have studied both Kokokan Judo and Yang-Style Tai Chi Chuan.
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 3 года назад
@@wardragonprime If you only learned the form, (and likely did them incorrectly on top of that) then you do not know squat about Tai Chi.
@nicholasclarence
@nicholasclarence 2 года назад
This guy doesn't know fucking judo lol
@gersonpaz683
@gersonpaz683 2 года назад
@@wardragonprime If practice wrestling and judo for years this vedio is real trust me his balance was alot better his breathing was better he was able to control his energy and use the other guys energy against him he got the judo guy tired and was able to get him to make a mistake and get him off balance that what tai chi tai teaches you is the art of energy it teaches you how to not wear your self out and how to wear someone else out instead and teaches you how to use some ones energy movement against them and teach you to balance your self very great I'll tell you simply like this if it combined with something else it most definitely works I just started practicing it it definitely works on a good wrestler I'm not joking tai chi is a mysterious martial arts from China that why is not that known I believe that not everything works for everyone but something that dosent work for somebody can work.for someone else tai chi may not work for everyone just like other martial arts dosent work everyone one until.they fund something that does work for them and that the case tai chi maybe not be for everybody but it's definitely is for some people tai chi definitely works for me it even help me balance my self alot better helps me sleep alot better too coming from a good wrestler tai chi is great!
@wgjung1
@wgjung1 10 лет назад
It's not fake, it's called acting.
@jimjiang4547
@jimjiang4547 10 лет назад
putting an act on tv makes it fake
@wgjung1
@wgjung1 9 лет назад
Jiang Jim It's called a 'fiction' in tv.
@1swt
@1swt 9 лет назад
Best response yet!
@84cwl
@84cwl 9 лет назад
I agree is acting... like wwe...is for entertainment purposes
@dwddindin
@dwddindin 5 лет назад
It's not acting
@turtle1211
@turtle1211 4 года назад
Another “Propaganda” video. I grew up on similar bullsh$t in USSR..
@rexguy7823
@rexguy7823 4 года назад
To me it was just a video about a Japanese judo guy trying to throw a Chinese guy but couldn't. Am I missing something here?
@turtle1211
@turtle1211 4 года назад
rex guy , both dudes are Chinese. if judo guy used just 10% of his effort, he would have still wrecked the tai chi guy.
@rexguy7823
@rexguy7823 4 года назад
@@turtle1211 What's the point of the video then? Judo guy just faking? He couldn't throw the Chinese guy because he has a solid stance. If anyone actually knows how to fight they take what they can and don't rubbish other styles.
@turtle1211
@turtle1211 4 года назад
rex guy , he didn’t try. I’ve been doing judo and wrestling for 20 years. It’s beyond obvious. Anyone with judo or grappling background concluding the same. All other comments speak for themselves
@rexguy7823
@rexguy7823 4 года назад
@@turtle1211 What is the point of the video? It's that a good stance is important. It's not a Judo vs Taiji fight. I did Judo as a kid & it's a great style. Try to see it for what it is. It's not a stain on Judo's reputation
@anarchic_ramblings
@anarchic_ramblings 4 года назад
Why isn't Master Wang on the Chinese national judo team? He would surely win a gold medal and be forever remembered as the greatest judoka of all time! Why doesn't he do challenge fights? He could make millions of dollars, which he could use for important socially valuable ends. No doubt Master Wang could end child poverty with his Tai Chi!
@muthafuckawhatchusay
@muthafuckawhatchusay 4 года назад
There's no money in it. That's why you see so many tai chi masters in MMA
@juniorhighflyslikeeagle7803
@juniorhighflyslikeeagle7803 4 года назад
He won't challenge because the other Tai chi master got his ass handed to him by mma fighter.
@rexguy7823
@rexguy7823 4 года назад
Um..the Chinese guy was in a video where the judo guy couldn't throw him because he had a wide stance...that's it. And it was actually believable. He knew what they were trying to do. I understand that everyone hates the Chinese now but seriously..get over your corona virus BS
@rafaelprados6509
@rafaelprados6509 4 года назад
@@rexguy7823 Exactly this! So glad to see that there are still people with common sense and not everyone here is a keyboard warrior lol
@kennedy072
@kennedy072 4 года назад
@@rafaelprados6509 WUmao Spotted.
@Darksido
@Darksido 8 лет назад
What Judo? This so called "judoka" did a little dance around the Tatame with that other guy. No kumi-kata, no stance, no kuzushi, no projection. He could have done Hiza-guruma or Uchi-mata 20 times. Don't volunteer for this sort of chicanery. You are dishonoring Judo, the memory of Sensei Kano, your Belt, your Sensei, and yourself. You don't set foot inside a Tatame wearing shoes.
@Darksido
@Darksido 8 лет назад
heeheemanofHK You are terrible at trolling.
@Sanmayce
@Sanmayce 8 лет назад
"... dishonoring Judo ..." - Are you insane or a fool? Either your senses are hacked or you are a fool, the two guys are all-right, where is your psychological expertise, they are really polite and genuine in expressing their greetings, skills and appreciation, don't you see that?! Face a man skilled in TaiChi first and then share with us how your attempts to apply ATTEMPTS-FOR-THROWING went. To me, you have no basic understanding in stances, let alone techniques, nothing wrong in that, but to criticize as if you are some learned judoka, nah, humble yourself! I said this even to the cocky judoka Ronda far before she got humiliated, however she was blinded by her ... EGO.
@samsun01
@samsun01 8 лет назад
+Darksido son, be more original. haters gonna hate too? any other gimmick you wanna use? your 'verbal judo' is pitiful.
@Darksido
@Darksido 8 лет назад
+Georgi “Kaze” Marinov Did you read the dialog? As in 1:06 : "Today I come to consult and see which one is stronger. Tai Chi or Judo?". That calls for a real randori, not a parody. I practiced Judo since I was 14. Under two strict Senseis (Sensei Rodríguez and Sensei Feliciano) and later on under Sensei Hiromi Tomita (hellish in a good way) and learned quite a bit about Judo's philosophy and discipline, besides technique. In my book you don't make a parody of the discipline in order to make it look this or that way, you do Judo. Period. He had the chance to throw the Tai Chi practitioner in multiple occasions and he didn't (because he wasn't even trying to take a proper stance, unbalance, or make a proper grip). You can't practice Judo unless both parties are willing to eat the Tatame. Concerning the rest, you are just talking gibberish or you would know why I mentioned there was no good kumi-kata, or stance; ergo, no possibility of projection. It's quite evident you are not a Judo practitioner. Much less a Dan. 2:28-2:50 for example it's an embarrassing mockery of Harai-goshi (no kuzushi) to portrait he "tried something". You practice Tai Chi, fantastic, you can talk about it all you want. Just don't try to teach me about something I practiced for 22 years. You can't have a true perspective about a martial art unless you practice it. That's why I can offer a judoka's perspective, and that's why I don't speak about Tai Chi. Telling the truth has nothing to do with humility or the lack of it. That's that. P.S. I dislike Ronda Rousey's personality quite a lot by the way.
@Darksido
@Darksido 8 лет назад
+heeheemanofHK Sorry you are hurting that much kid.
@banpreso
@banpreso 10 лет назад
To declare the taichi guy "won" in this case is absurd. from the speed of movement of the judo guy you can see he's not serious about attacking. he did not try to fake and off balance. for most of the contest he did not try to get a good grip (under hook or head control). his foot sweeps were just for show as he attacked when the taichi guy had perfect balance and was not vulnerable. as a judo practitioner who trains week in week out and have thrown so many opponents over the years, he clearly knows how to throw but isn't using what he knows
@poolboyinla
@poolboyinla 10 лет назад
They couldn't even make a good fake video.
@pocketsandpunk
@pocketsandpunk 9 лет назад
hahaha true, dang small world. i just seen this cause it was recommended.
@samsun01
@samsun01 6 лет назад
travis kraft? still 'roiding up or injecting those testosterone gel? can't beat those 20 year olds when you're past 40? fucking garbage is MMA, that's why.
@Zack1440
@Zack1440 5 лет назад
Travis I'm waiting for you to make a video for us you scrub loser. You are the only fake one in this thread.
@gytismartinas7203
@gytismartinas7203 5 лет назад
true...
@ausgepicht
@ausgepicht 5 лет назад
There are so many fakes that I think some practitioners have lost the ability to understand the real thing when they see it, especially those who have never actually sparred against a resisting opponent. After 30 years in martial arts and 15 years coaching - likely more than the supposed master in this video, I will say that I have seen more believable, realistic footage in WWE fake wrestling. If people think this was real then they believe The Onion and a Batboy story on the weekly world news to be real. If that stings, it's because you have never sparred in your life or because you have never actually trained against a resisting opponent. If this was real, the Tai Chi guy would enter a Judo competition, make a ton of money or show the world how effective Tai Chi is and his school. He can't and won't because he's a fraud. Sorry about the boo-boo on your feelings, but hopefully you'll open your eyes before something in the real world happens like you are attacked, try the bogus martial art you train in and beat up badly.
@GuroJeromeTeague
@GuroJeromeTeague 4 года назад
This was the Corona Virus of martial arts videos.
@Juiceboxdan72
@Juiceboxdan72 4 года назад
Pretty sure this is a Chinese show, that explains a lot about this "match" lol
@Juiceboxdan72
@Juiceboxdan72 4 года назад
@@pengjin9806 Haha brilliant
@pengjin9806
@pengjin9806 4 года назад
angel666 Hahahah ,you make me laugh bro! 太极 少林 咏春 醉拳 等等。都可以称为功夫,中国功夫,我也没说太极拳是假的 我是说这个人是个骗子,多了解了解中国文化 在和我抬杠吧!😂 Eng: Taichi ,shaolin,winching,tiger style, we both called “ kung-fu or Wushu” I didn’t say Kung-fu not good , I just say this guy is a fake taichi master or Kung-fu master . If you want say more your better know more Chinese culture you can google it , bad world isn’t helpful😂
@BennyNegroFromQueens
@BennyNegroFromQueens 4 года назад
Just hold the L
@pengjin9806
@pengjin9806 4 года назад
AS J 🤣🤣
@HundredWingZ
@HundredWingZ 3 года назад
More Chinese propaganda
@matejfele9971
@matejfele9971 8 лет назад
That's a judo BB? Must be some kind of joke.
@samsun01
@samsun01 8 лет назад
where's your video son? video or bullshit.
@matejfele9971
@matejfele9971 8 лет назад
If you can't tell it by looking at it, you're clueless.
@samsun01
@samsun01 8 лет назад
you need to prove yourself first. still talking? still no video son?
@matejfele9971
@matejfele9971 8 лет назад
heeheemanofHK Where's yours?
@samsun01
@samsun01 8 лет назад
+Matej Fele, still talking... the verdict's out. you nobody.
@CecilRyuTaekwondo
@CecilRyuTaekwondo 9 лет назад
Why was there no O Uchi Gari to Ko Uchi Gari combo?
@yokoschroder314
@yokoschroder314 5 лет назад
I started Judo age 9, haven’t practised for a long time until recent. Here I saw many opportunities for a throw not being executed. Either the Judoka was a yellow belt and just for TV had to wear a black belt, or out of respect and for the sake of his peace ( in China) went along and played the game-who knows. The concept of a strong rooting by the TaiChi master was demonstrated. Yet, the TaiChi master should feel a bit ashamed of his ‘victory’.
@Supermomo2007
@Supermomo2007 4 года назад
we dont know, it looks fake but i think the tai chi master played fair, i did study both, judo and chen style tai chi
@marektruper4242
@marektruper4242 2 года назад
I sparred with an aikido master master who claimed he is so rooted nobody would take him down. 30 seconds later he lost a match. I lost a friend.
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 2 года назад
@@marektruper4242 yeah, this judoka is totally going easy
@TTyger
@TTyger 4 года назад
I’ve never even trained Judo, and I can see that this is some BS. Judo players I’ve seen are well trained, strong, and would throw that pyjama wearing freak in seconds.
@aljoschalong625
@aljoschalong625 4 года назад
This is nonsense. Yes, I also had the impression the Judo guy was not trying his hardest. But it IS not that easy to throw a Taiji master so easily as it might look. My theory is that the Judo guy was overly respectful.
@TTyger
@TTyger 4 года назад
I don’t think it’s just that, man. I think it’s Chinese state propaganda. Judo has proper pressure testing in practice. Taiji (as far as I know) practices mostly just forms. A halfway decent Judoka can rag doll an average citizen. A halfway decent Taiji practicioner... well... who knows what that even means, because they don’t really test their skills against one another, afaik. Judo, wrestling, sambo, bjj etc. > Taiji, kungfu, aikido, wing chun etc.
@aljoschalong625
@aljoschalong625 4 года назад
@@TTyger No, that's wrong. If someone practices Taiji only forms, without sparring (tui shou), he could not stand a second; even if the Judoka, as in this case is not really trying. This Taiji guy did have a good balance; the judo guy didn't try hard. Maybe too respectful.
@TTyger
@TTyger 4 года назад
Aljoscha Long by Tui Shou, do you mean pushing hands?
@aljoschalong625
@aljoschalong625 4 года назад
@@TTyger Yes. And this is not playing; at least people who do it seriously have real skills. I was quite surprised the first time I tried a real master. It feels really weird. Actually a bit like with a real good judoka. But although I don't judge the video as harsh as most here, I also have the impression that the judo guy didn't try his best.
@viobull5548
@viobull5548 Год назад
I studied both Judo and Tai Chi. It’s very hard to throw someone who is only focused on not getting thrown. In Judo matches it’s discouraged to do what the Tai Chi master did, you would be penalized for only defending and not attempting to throw.
@contaparajogar1666
@contaparajogar1666 9 месяцев назад
well i studied tai chi chuan yang chen and a little bit of the others i did both i'm a practitioner of both styles that i mentioned and in tai chi it's worth doing nothing or doing nothing to redirect blows and take down but it's not such a good strategy why if you don't do anything taijiquan explosive techniques that would be those shoulder strikes with pushes are effective so it's not really recommended not to do nothing and that doesn't have in judo then right and it's also a martial art against the other in taijquan it's not worth touching the hand on the ground it's not worth touching the knee the only thing you can touch is the sole of the feet already in judo it's different so they are different martial arts with different rules so you can't expect a rule to apply to another martial art why then you are leaving your opponent's martial art weakened to such rules usually with the rules of the opponents more than yours
@contaparajogar1666
@contaparajogar1666 9 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MYoxNB1XSAE.htmlsi=uLfjVcR9ts0TL077here is a video of a chen style taijiquan training you can see that those who don't attack normally or recent heavy takedowns with explosions like I mentioned or they use counter fast attacks
@viobull5548
@viobull5548 9 месяцев назад
@@contaparajogar1666 Judo is a sport, Jiujitsu is more comparable to Tai Chi. What the Tai Chi master does would not work against someone who will grab his legs and uproot him. Against a Judo player who will only throw according to Judo rules, Tai Chi will work since Judo is a sport mainly focused on Judo matches and to be used against other Judokas who are also trying to throw.
@contaparajogar1666
@contaparajogar1666 9 месяцев назад
@@viobull5548 yes you are correct the focus of judo is to be a sport to fight against other sportsmen of the same rules but taijiquan can be classified in that because there are unique rules in taijiquan and yes jiujiteiros say that judokas like to do beautiful takedowns and you can see that it's a reality where they want to take their opponent to the ground in the most beautiful and refined way possible, you can see it in olympic championships where judokas wait, attack, throw themselves and then roll to go up, they tend to make beautiful takedowns and that's a reality already tai chi chuan or taijiquan focuses on taking down in as many ways as possible and just explaining yes in taijiquan you can grab the legs normally both both legs as well as one this is not something unique that applies in the rules of jiu jitsu or similar and taijiquan has submissions not so much common in taijiquan challenges since the focus is on taking down more fights in chenjiagou the village of the chen family in taijiquan to a recording where they practice submissions later a protection or grab it I'll see if I can find the video and I'll send it to you
@mofoflm
@mofoflm 7 лет назад
That was some yellow belt level judo
@philyip4432
@philyip4432 4 года назад
If even that.
@AnGhaeilge
@AnGhaeilge 9 лет назад
I've seen people with 3 months of judo with better technique than that. The first half of the video, he isn't even using judo. It looks like shitty wrestling. And those throw attempts at the end, he didn't even try to setup. You have to control grips, and take out their centre of balance.
@user-ns3co5nw5d
@user-ns3co5nw5d 9 лет назад
Sean Ó Briain 那是你不懂太極,柔道根本找不到太極的著力點,所以技法無法施展。
@wittyjoker4631
@wittyjoker4631 9 лет назад
Indeed. Its obviously a fluff peace
@bryantay2184
@bryantay2184 8 лет назад
+Sean Ó Briain Its mainly because, the tai chi master positioned himself in a low stance to gain the upper hand. Basically the results here, are rather one sided as these videos are mainly to raise awareness of tai chi kungfu and not about judo. I feel that if they really wanted to test the effectiveness of taichi in judo they should have let the master put on a gi and see if he can really last that long.......
@AnGhaeilge
@AnGhaeilge 8 лет назад
+Bryan Tay No, it's due to the fact that these aren't judokas.
@BloodofPatriots
@BloodofPatriots 8 лет назад
+Sean Ó Briain Also, notice no high grip? Anytime an opponent leans into you like that, a trained Judoka knows to reach over and grab a high grip. A three-finger grip inside the Kung Fu guy's color and he's going flying. This was total bullshit.
@johnarnold908
@johnarnold908 8 лет назад
big Judo guy's skill went out the window as soon as the competition began...fake.....
@Antraeus
@Antraeus 5 лет назад
chi
@TheNEOONE1
@TheNEOONE1 4 года назад
Your comments are cringe
@jeielgilbertmanantan7391
@jeielgilbertmanantan7391 10 лет назад
i practice judo and i gotta say there were so may opportunity to throw this "master wang" i can really say this is fake.
@davidmartinez9804
@davidmartinez9804 7 лет назад
never heard of shaolin style taiji?
@symbolsarenotreality4595
@symbolsarenotreality4595 6 лет назад
This is definitely not fake as anyone not in denial would admit. The judoka attempted many techniques all of which were rendered ineffective. You simply do not want to believe this and so you try to discredit the reality of this video.
@symbolsarenotreality4595
@symbolsarenotreality4595 6 лет назад
People saying the judoka wasn't trying hard enough aren't watching the same video. Clearly you can see the judoka attempting to use all his force and maximum leverage as well as relaxing and changing but quite obviously the tai chi system has a much more effective and subtle way of exerting and resisting force.
@HECTORARTUROA
@HECTORARTUROA 6 лет назад
O D do you practice judo?
@andrewhageman1817
@andrewhageman1817 6 лет назад
Advanced Judo is more subtle than what we see in competition. I believe this is real. The Judoka is at a disadvantage because he must attack. If the Tai Chi man was required to attack, the video would be more dynamic. This video only answers one question. Can Judo uproot a defending Tai Chi Master? Probably not. If roles were reversed, would the result be the same?
@MegaKlausbaerbel
@MegaKlausbaerbel 4 года назад
1:45 O-Uchi-Gari Master Wang is down 1:50 Tai-otoshi Master Wang is down 1:53 Master Wang would trop to the ground if he wasn´t held by the Judoka 1:55 That is no attack, that is practice without intent to throw 1:59 Tomoe-nage, Master Wang hurts bad 2:11 Judoka has the foot in for an O-Uchi-Gari but turns the wrong direction… 2:16 Harai-goshi Master Wang is down 2:20 Ko-uchi-gari, Master Wang is literally asking for it.... aaaaand down … What a joke!
@Supermomo2007
@Supermomo2007 4 года назад
so you can challenge him now, troll
@KingoftheJiangl
@KingoftheJiangl 11 месяцев назад
​@@Supermomo2007he isn't a troll, he just gave a play by play of why the judo guy was not trying. With kimono, it's a totally different game for taichi guy
@Supermomo2007
@Supermomo2007 11 месяцев назад
@@KingoftheJiangl a real fighter should adapt no-gi
@cfG21
@cfG21 5 месяцев назад
​@@KingoftheJiangl then let me give you a small play by play of taiji (whose bread and butter is stability) Ouchi gari cannot work because the judo guy is bent forward (big no no in taiji, except wu style where the founder is a wrestler) and the taiji guy has all his 3 dantien lined up with his back straight creating a good root. The judo guy has no leverage because the taiji guy away from his shoulder and hip plus the judokas own center line is off. Ouchi gari here needs someone to be off balance and with a bad stance. The taiji guy concentrates his dantien and is using beng (circle method) but from the inside, with his center taking the judokas .
@cfG21
@cfG21 5 месяцев назад
Ouchi gari cannot work because the judo guy is bent forward (big no no in taiji, except wu style where the founder is a wrestler) and the taiji guy has all his 3 dantien lined up with his back straight creating a good root. The judo guy has no leverage because the taiji guy away from his shoulder and hip plus the judokas own center line is off. Ouchi gari here needs someone to be off balance and with a bad stance. The taiji guy concentrates his dantien and is using beng (circle method) but from the inside, with his center taking the judokas .
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 8 лет назад
Wow, that went better then I thought it would. I think Tai Chi is amazing and all, but I kind of expected the Tai Chi master to go flying around the room.
@crobrains1610
@crobrains1610 2 года назад
Thats the point with Tai chi staying grounded , just like a tree with its root in ground cant take down
@Zorlag
@Zorlag Год назад
He would've, if the Judo guy wasn't on the payroll.
@andrealaplaca247
@andrealaplaca247 Год назад
Then you don't know tai chi
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 Год назад
@@andrealaplaca247 I do actually, I studied under Fran Farrel (RIP). I think you might have some unreasonable expectations vs an art that is focused on taking someone down. In fact this video, as I found out a couple years later, was not all genuine as well. It's culturally and socially negative to put Tai Chi in a bad light in China so it almost always works out this way.
@andrealaplaca247
@andrealaplaca247 Год назад
@@spladam3845 Fair enough. I got a little defensive, you know how it goes ☺ Respect 👍
@funkyboodah
@funkyboodah 8 лет назад
I love how the commentator is completely biased in favour of Tai Chi winning
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 2 года назад
This entire video comes of as a propaganda defense of Tai Chi.
@JujutsuHeiho
@JujutsuHeiho 10 лет назад
Whaddya' know... Chinese show trying to make Chinese martial arts look good by having judo guy not toss him around. The black belt wasn't even committing to his throws. Nor was he trying to get the guy off balance.
@Lottoaire
@Lottoaire 10 лет назад
your just ............
@JujutsuHeiho
@JujutsuHeiho 10 лет назад
If by biased you mean honest, then yes :-)
@Lottoaire
@Lottoaire 10 лет назад
Jujutsuheiho edited
@JujutsuHeiho
@JujutsuHeiho 10 лет назад
lotto, I think you would be very surprised to know that this Judoka was not trying. I've been training long enough to notice things like that. And he was not following through with techniques of Judo nor was he really using any actual "Kuzushi waza"
@Lottoaire
@Lottoaire 10 лет назад
Jujutsuheiho edited
@rickjulius3742
@rickjulius3742 10 лет назад
I am a past judo instructor whereby I spent 26 years in this wonderful Olympic Sport Art, and also have spent about 30 years in Taijiquan Yang long-form. I have always noticed the similarities of both arts; its probably why I stayed in Martial Arts for so long. If the Taiji Master was trying to demonstrate his rooting capabilities then this was a very good example and demonstration. However, I know the black belt instructor was most diffidently showing respect and not using any of the throws or take downs that are natural for this type of stance that the Master was holding. He could have easily did uchimata (inner leg reap) or kouchimata (inner heal sweep) one after the other would have put our Tai Chi Master on his back. But like I said, it was a demonstration of actual respect and showed favoritism to the Taiji form.
@Supermomo2007
@Supermomo2007 6 лет назад
but why the tai chi master doesnt want start throws? tai chi has more throws than judo.
@symbolsarenotreality4595
@symbolsarenotreality4595 6 лет назад
Inner leg reap and inner heal sweep can be counterd by tai chi leg trapping techniques quite easily. It sounds like you haven't really studied Tai chi rick. Sorry buddy but im sensing confirmation bias again, nice details though.
@HECTORARTUROA
@HECTORARTUROA 6 лет назад
O D do you have a video about those techniques?
@symbolsarenotreality4595
@symbolsarenotreality4595 6 лет назад
No I do not have a video. If you actually watch this video the judoka attempts several inner and outer tripping techniques but he is unable to root himself solidly to apply these techniques. Its not some magic force preventing him it is simply that he has lost his centre and so has nothing to lever his own techniques against.
@HECTORARTUROA
@HECTORARTUROA 6 лет назад
O D If it's simple why there is no tutorial about that?
@Szczecinski_Klub_Taijiquan
@Szczecinski_Klub_Taijiquan 3 года назад
Thanks for Sharing all the Videos!
@donovancox2525
@donovancox2525 4 года назад
I agree with all the callouts below. However I’m still left with one question. Since when are shoes allowed on the mat?
@TheRaizo101
@TheRaizo101 10 лет назад
I'm a big fan of martial arts, and a huge fan of Jet Li, but I gotta admit, this looks really fake...
@MM-ij9vg
@MM-ij9vg 10 лет назад
I know the father and the brother. It's not something to say, when you don't know the real power of this man! Master Wang are very hard and difficult to beat
@TheRaizo101
@TheRaizo101 10 лет назад
Michael Moussa I don't doubt that, I question the power of the "Judo masters". One of my best friends is a Judo black belt since a few years ago, and even he says the technique here is rather low.
@lyndonlee6604
@lyndonlee6604 10 лет назад
Agree with you man as much as I am a big fan of tai chi but this match looks staged
@Ryancontact1
@Ryancontact1 10 лет назад
I dont think it's a question of it being fake. I train in japanese martial arts myself and it's well known if you keep your center of gravity lower than your opponent they wont be able to utilize throws. If you watch the clip carefully the chinese guys hips are much lower than the judokas. Thus the judokas left with no choice but to try to use force, pretty much the opposite of what judo is about.
@TheRaizo101
@TheRaizo101 10 лет назад
Ryancontact1 Yeah don't get me wrong I do understand that, but I just think any well trained judoka knows about that as well, and would be able to find a way to turn things around. I'm not saying Wang Zanhai doesn't know what he's talking about, but rather that the opponents are either not experienced or being payed. But that's just my opinion.
@jdgw959
@jdgw959 4 года назад
FFS, if you’re going to push a narrative, try to not make it so obvious.
@varamaur9567
@varamaur9567 Год назад
Nice friendly bit of randori and I’m glad a few people in these comments understand and appreciate the application of neijin by the taijiquan practitioner. Of course if this was a formal match officiated under judo rules, he would’ve lost due to multiple shido - but that doesn’t negate the value of the demo.
@Hampieee
@Hampieee 8 месяцев назад
White monkey
@stevetakkinkwan8910
@stevetakkinkwan8910 6 лет назад
Even among judo practitioners, bigger size and weight always have advantages. That meant that it is difficult for smaller size and body weight people to throw bigger and heavier people, especially when both sides are prepared and aware for a fight. It is easier to throw or jam a person off balance when done in quick and unaware situation.
@TheOneNyc
@TheOneNyc 4 года назад
IS THIS A COMEDY SKIT? LIKE WHEN MIKE TYSON FAUGHT AN 8 YEAR OLD ITALIAN GIRL AND LOST?
@celinreyes1983
@celinreyes1983 4 года назад
Mike Tyson lost for real, he couldn't resist too much cuteness
@SkyReach22
@SkyReach22 9 лет назад
This "Wang" dude was disrespectful as fuck in the beginning. I wouldda kicked his ass out. You don't walk in someone's space of training, basically these judoka's second home and say "lol I think tai chi is better than judo xD". Even if he could back it up, you just don't say shit like that. You can't fairly say that one combat sport is better than the rest. It always depends on the practitioners. I bet somewhere out there, there's a judoka that could dominate Wang. We just haven't seen him yet. And it's the same for Tai Chi. I'm not trying to be biased for judo, I'm just saying there are all kinds of different people out there with varying skill levels of any combat sport.
@symbolsarenotreality4595
@symbolsarenotreality4595 6 лет назад
If its an accurate observation then its an honest statement - especially after he proved it to be true. It would be more respectful to be honest rather than cater to insecurity and arrogance by lying and to protect a delusion.
@BL0HARD
@BL0HARD 6 лет назад
“No shoes on the Judo mat, get off!”
@davidbandini3484
@davidbandini3484 5 лет назад
Does anybody can tell me the name of the black belt judo please?
@wai-leeho6375
@wai-leeho6375 10 лет назад
A real judo player would have used o-uchi gari when the tachi practitioner shifted his weight to his left side. I practice both judo and kung fu. There is no superior martial arts, only superior fighter.
@lehien955
@lehien955 10 лет назад
***** are you sure? most of all martial arts have root in INDIA.
@srinivasanit
@srinivasanit 10 лет назад
i like that words 'There is no superior martial arts, only superior fighter'
@lolzhhahaha
@lolzhhahaha 7 лет назад
Wai-Lee Ho indeed there is only a superior fighter not a superior martial arts, this means that the tai chi master was the better fighter in this little match :)
@Supermomo2007
@Supermomo2007 6 лет назад
which kung fu style do you practice???? kung fu has throws already and it is complete.
@Supermomo2007
@Supermomo2007 6 лет назад
roots in india??? ah where are the indian martial arts now???
@michaelpolito3632
@michaelpolito3632 6 лет назад
Very humble martial artist. A great friendly exchange. I have seen these two styles before go at it in the past, and very similar results.
@boblolo3977
@boblolo3977 9 лет назад
He made just one last video: Tai Chi Master Wang Zhanhai vs AK47.
@alter5057
@alter5057 Год назад
There are ways how Tai Chi can defeat Judo. 1) You pay the judoka a good sum amount of money in return for playing along and acting 2) Get a guy to put on a judo gi and pay him for playing along and acting
@judoyodan
@judoyodan 9 лет назад
The chi guy is fortunate this judoka has a kind heart and believes in the judo principle of "mutual benefit and welfare."
@MrNapalm138
@MrNapalm138 10 лет назад
Studied Judo for a long time them my instructor and I met some Tai Chi guys and started training with them and it seriously helped our Judo game I love both arts and will not get into a this one is better then that one debate I say train both and enjoy :-)
@lindltailor
@lindltailor 5 лет назад
Translation: Taiji taught them something that Judo didn't have
@kevkingjj
@kevkingjj 4 года назад
@Tai Chi Tube bullshit. any olympic level judoka would cripple you and your weak ass tai chi bs
@AkronKid330
@AkronKid330 7 лет назад
okay so at the end of the day what is better to take? Please help
@minecraftotalwar
@minecraftotalwar 7 лет назад
Mike Gauer they are completly different arts. But on my on perspective its better to take taiji overall
@johnnyauer22
@johnnyauer22 7 лет назад
judo. this was just a shitty judoka
@JOUA1400
@JOUA1400 6 лет назад
Great exhibition! Seems a bit like a sumo technique.Thank you for sharing.
@Enforcer2811
@Enforcer2811 4 года назад
Its all propaganda to paint taichi “masters” as invincible after that mma fighter wiped the floor with Every traditional Kungfu guy he faced 😑
@adielbarrera9848
@adielbarrera9848 4 года назад
I am a wushu practicioner, including Tai chi, but I can not deny that this is accurate and a reality. MMA is superior for figthing.
@Blacktwinswords
@Blacktwinswords 4 года назад
This video was released prior to Xu Xiaodong started wiping the floor with these "masters". Although, I wouldn't put it past the fact that this video along with many other propaganda videos were making Xu extremely frustrated with traditional Chinese martial arts.
@affalee8216
@affalee8216 4 года назад
Nah he didn't on Shaolin or karate
@rexguy7823
@rexguy7823 4 года назад
I thought the video was about a Judo guy being able to throw a tai chi guy..all these words like master & invincible..where did you get them from?
@affalee8216
@affalee8216 4 года назад
@@rexguy7823 did judo guy manage to throw taichi dude? Didn't watch enough of the vid to see that.
@PrimeAliProductions
@PrimeAliProductions 9 лет назад
He wasn't using any judo techniques whatsoever.
@xieulong
@xieulong 9 лет назад
PrimeAliProductions It's staged bullshit, that's why.
@PrimeAliProductions
@PrimeAliProductions 9 лет назад
xieulong Thought so.
@mightymeatmonsta
@mightymeatmonsta 8 лет назад
+PrimeAliProductions Yes, sure. Another sore ass because judo lost badly. Booo hooo!
@mightymeatmonsta
@mightymeatmonsta 8 лет назад
+PrimeAliProductions No, judo guy just got beat badly by the tai chi master. He couldn't do a damn thing, and the JUDO guy was at least 40 lbs heavier and like a foot taller. So why couldn't he win? Because judo SUCKS!
@PrimeAliProductions
@PrimeAliProductions 8 лет назад
***** you alright there? Tai chi is horseshit. Judo is an Olympic sport, Haha
@MrMwmussel1
@MrMwmussel1 4 года назад
I believe the key wording was “in certain situations”. It would seem this was a friendly test of one of those situations in which the Thai Chi master thought he might have the upper hand.
@kyleromus6845
@kyleromus6845 5 лет назад
Cool video. But where was the judo guy he was supposed to fight?
@markelliott8183
@markelliott8183 9 лет назад
Having had exposure to both judo and tai chi, I found this scene to be pretty impressive. That judo guy could have tossed me all over the mat without even breathing hard.
@PochocloEn3D
@PochocloEn3D 8 лет назад
Mayweather is way better grappler than this guy...
@hawkie2216
@hawkie2216 8 лет назад
savage
@carllubrin8518
@carllubrin8518 8 лет назад
U mean hugger lol
@Memento778
@Memento778 8 лет назад
+PochocloEn3D u made my day hahahaha
@eugeniofernandez8101
@eugeniofernandez8101 8 лет назад
true
@samsun01
@samsun01 8 лет назад
where's your video son? video or bullshit.
@equinociodeverao8155
@equinociodeverao8155 3 года назад
self confidence, competence and kindness. congratulations.
@sombojoe
@sombojoe 4 года назад
Was the judo practitioner instructed to NOT grip the gi during the I Soto Gari attempt while the opponent held his gi?
@cortx2lh
@cortx2lh 10 лет назад
The judoka wasn't using the principle of Kuzushi, trying to get him of balance before throwing, He could have tried kata guruma.
@DavidPatrick67
@DavidPatrick67 10 лет назад
of course he was trying, that was the point of the demo, there are subtleties going on you don't understand
@cortx2lh
@cortx2lh 10 лет назад
Well, if he was trying, he was doing it very poorly. I mean, "push when pulled and pull when pushed". But anyway, don't get me wrong. I like Tai Chi and other kinds of Wushu.
@Elbottoo
@Elbottoo 10 лет назад
Davi Stanesco Maybe he was doing it poorly, or maybe he gave everything he had and just couldnt do it. Obviously you know jackshit about tai chi so youre already making assumptions as to why tai chi guy should of been destroyed and what not. In reality, tai chi is one of the most powerfull and dangerous art and you are deadwrong if you think you can just overpower some tai chi guy.
@cortx2lh
@cortx2lh 10 лет назад
Wow, look. Another wild keyboard warrior.
@Elbottoo
@Elbottoo 10 лет назад
Shine my shoes, burger flipper. know your place in this world.
@cwpolo17
@cwpolo17 10 лет назад
Hmmm, this seems dubious. The judoka isn't going full out. I smell a "work".
@TheNEOONE1
@TheNEOONE1 4 года назад
Your comments are cringe
@yasser6038
@yasser6038 8 лет назад
that taichi master looks so wise
@FaridYM
@FaridYM 4 года назад
we all knew what happens when a traditional wushu/kungfu/taiji/wingchun master fights a serious fighter like xu xiangdong
@taoliu3949
@taoliu3949 4 года назад
Xu Xiaodong actually somewhat respects Wang Zhanhai (the Taichi practitioner in the video) and has invited him to his gym in the past. He's openly stated that Taichi is good for Grappling and Wrestling. That said, Dan Docherty and Neil Rosiak has already demonstrated Taichis usefulness in MMA.
@Shrapnel1234
@Shrapnel1234 3 года назад
Xu Xiaodong surely is a great guy, but he's an amateur-rank fighter at best, he's kind of a dad with a beer belly that knows how to fight. And even then matching him with tai chi guys is a mismatch bordering on cruel. Imagine these "masters" facing actual world-level fighters.
@gozergozerian7291
@gozergozerian7291 10 лет назад
If you think Chinese TV will ever show a Japanese martial art beating a Chinese.... LOL
@thndrngest
@thndrngest 10 лет назад
the tai chi man absorbs/re-direct most of the judo man's attempts, it's not an all-out street fight, it's a contest of their fundamental skills in their arts, not staged.
@erikboing1624
@erikboing1624 4 года назад
two friends from the same Taiji Club are fooling us:) I like it!
@bluepuppystudios3617
@bluepuppystudios3617 3 года назад
It's like watching two people who have never fought or even seen a fight before brawling it out.
@tonybeable7671
@tonybeable7671 9 лет назад
I think this is set up, the judoka had so many chances, openings yet he only went for the slow o-soto-gari? Also he was going at a very relaxed pace. Try versing a conditioned judoka and you will have no chance.
@eduardojavierrosasvillarre7344
@eduardojavierrosasvillarre7344 3 года назад
Don't analize, is fake
@meerweenhafeez9945
@meerweenhafeez9945 7 лет назад
I challenge this master Tai Chi to fight me in MMA style. I wait for the reply,
@ckaraten
@ckaraten 4 года назад
There are plenty of fakes out there, but to everyone who doesn’t know Tai chi saying this is fake: Master Wang is actually practicing Tai Chi perfectly. The whole aim of martial tai chi is to have a strong root and to throw out your opponents’ centre of gravity. That is exactly what is happening here. Notice that the Judo practitioner (and I’m a huge fan of judo) is unsuccessfully trying to gain the specific foothold needed to upset Wang’s centre of gravity, but Master Wang is absolutely rooted, even to the point where his foot comes up and he’s able to retain his centre of gravity. Good Peng or staged? You be the judge, but to the trained eye this is completely legit.
@negative_creep2581
@negative_creep2581 6 месяцев назад
You sure dont know nothing about judo. White gi is obviously faking It. Thing is, chinese have a very nationalistic view on kung fu and its "superiority", specialy over judo, which is a japanese style, and you know, the japanese empire was Hitler to the Chinese people.
@jimmybutler3728
@jimmybutler3728 4 года назад
how about shoes for grip to the floor and or mats to give more advantage to smaller contestant? that is reason no shoes in dojo......
@HenryFlores4
@HenryFlores4 6 лет назад
Guys, guys...settle down. We all know that this is fake. But shame on the Judoka for going along with this... Clearly all he had to do was an ogoshi or even a taiotoshi. But, that's just me...
@jurgenfischer7683
@jurgenfischer7683 10 месяцев назад
Some people think it‘s fake. Why? To throw your opponent, the first thing you have to do is, bring him out of balance. By pushing, pulling, lifting. But what, of you can‘t?
@kenseisato1989
@kenseisato1989 9 лет назад
anyone who's grappled can see that he's got great base. here's the thing though. his a Tai Chi Master and the judo practitioner was just a black belt
@Nosgoth73ad
@Nosgoth73ad 6 лет назад
Great movie!
@papetua
@papetua 5 лет назад
what is the point of being passive?:D
@obsidianstatue
@obsidianstatue 10 лет назад
so many key board martial artists on youtube's comment section. LOL
@-sisjsksn
@-sisjsksn 5 лет назад
Lol you are keyboard warrior stupid
@jimlowe5433
@jimlowe5433 4 года назад
You are very correct about that obsidianstatue
@MoluskToeCheese
@MoluskToeCheese 7 лет назад
SHOES ON THE MAT?!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@maksymmerkulow5196
@maksymmerkulow5196 6 лет назад
What is wrong?
@ungas024
@ungas024 6 лет назад
Maksym Merkulow i used to practice karatedo, it is rude to wear shoes on the tatami. It is disrespectful in a sense. I guess it is the same for all martial arts.
@pchemist
@pchemist 6 лет назад
No, kung fu practitioners usually wear outdoor clothes since we're probably going to be outside when we need to use martial arts. The Chinese didn't do battle in their underwear.
@squatch570
@squatch570 5 лет назад
pchemist But when they enter a dojo, they need to respect it and remove their shoes on the tatame. Huge disrespect on the part of that alleged "Master".
@teothomas681
@teothomas681 9 лет назад
For Judokas - An ouchi gari or kouchi gari or would have work well here. Regardless of his stability, the throws would have taken his entire footing off the ground. Intact the low CG would probably add to the effectiveness of the throw when it comes to ouchi/kocuhi gari.
@edgardo9003
@edgardo9003 8 месяцев назад
How about Shuai Jiao vs Judo?
@wsja18
@wsja18 7 лет назад
Didn't look to me as if the judo guy was trying very hard
@remiqremi6560
@remiqremi6560 4 года назад
Kouchi gari, ouchi gari, tomoe nage - 3 simple techniques that whould have ended this shi** farse in second. Another thing if this judo practicioner is real black belt he whould never have tried to do osoto gari in that sytuation. Main principle is to throw oponent from balance. If oponent has balance in front you throw him into his back. This judo practicioner fought like total beginer. I am green belt myself and this taichi sh** master whould have ended with broken ribbs or worse after fighting with me without knowing how to fall. Fuc**** propaganda lies
@ungorilaenrd
@ungorilaenrd 4 года назад
Uchumata is great when opponents have separate legs to
@coolblue1524
@coolblue1524 6 лет назад
素晴らしいですね!
@alexhess1163
@alexhess1163 6 лет назад
People are quick to hate. I've done judo for a few years, although I am far from an expert. My 2 cents: Anyone who has done judo for any amount of time knows how easy it is to stuff throws. When you are only being defensive, like the Tai Chi guys is, it is very easy to never ever be thrown. You are actually most fragile when you shift your weight dramatically to attempt a throw. If you never attack, you can never be countered. This strategy is actually banned in most judo tournaments. It is called "anti-judo," and I believe it is a 1-time warning, a 2-time disqualification from the ENTIRE TOURNAMENT. They ban it because they don't want you to get ahead in waza-ari, then play defensive and sit on your ass for the rest of the match; it makes it impossible for you to lose once you get ahead, but it ruins the point of the match. And it is way too easy to do. A good judoka can probably throw an average untrained person even if he is trying to stuff all throws, but this Tai Chi guy clearly has a lot practice manipulating his weight, at least in a defensive way (it's not super hard). That's why I'm not so quick to denounce this as "fake." The judo guy looks like he was going moderately hard, but not all out like he would in a tournament. He was going practice hard. The Tai Chi guy was only demonstrating standing throw defense to emphasize an aspect of Tai Chi. Keep in mind that keeping your weight low and planted to avoid getting thrown will not stop a punch to the face.
@Legend-wt1ui
@Legend-wt1ui 5 лет назад
Actually unless you're running away... if someone without much skill tries to defend while staying up close they typically get hit with a makikomi.
@kanstehnewbie
@kanstehnewbie 10 лет назад
Master Wang and his father are the Masters from Chen's village in China, he start practice Tai Chi at the age of 6 and won his first contest when he was 16. I want to say it doesn't matter what martial art you practice, it's the person make the art look strong.
@josealvira2384
@josealvira2384 9 лет назад
This is great!! LOL
@Zerraniumetal
@Zerraniumetal 9 лет назад
¡Que coincidencia!lol
@Seeker386
@Seeker386 8 лет назад
Nice to see it was kept civil.
@Mihawk1848
@Mihawk1848 4 года назад
Judoka: this great master is loaded..um, i mean very stable...
@therealawakener7
@therealawakener7 10 лет назад
More Non sequitur crap from naive uploaders. It does not follow that Tai Chi is better than Judo because one master stays on his feet in one bout of non-combat nonsense, just as it doesn't make judo better if the Tai chi man falls over, this is a strawman. In the totality of real combat neither Tai Chi or Judo would need to be employed as in fact Tai Chi, Judo, Boxing, Karate, etc, etc, do not exist in 'Liberated' minds as styles are for immature children only, mature men see beyond the playground and into the battlefields of combat. Ask yourself this...How long would they have been doing their supposed styles if either one of them had of gone for an eye gouge, groin grab, throat grab, knee to the groin, foot stamp, etc???. How long?.... Reality turns the 'Organised Despair' into dust with just a single wave of its hand. Sincerely, Jimi:-).
@KGS922
@KGS922 10 лет назад
I'm pretty sure many Kung Fu styles have techniques for responding to eye gouge, throat grab, knees to the groin etc. Dodging, parrying, etc.
@therealawakener7
@therealawakener7 10 лет назад
Kamal G And.... your point is what?? Think very carefully before you speak further, it's not my intent to embarrass you but it may appear that way if you press your erroneous, naive, train of thought:-).
@MichaelWestonAnimates
@MichaelWestonAnimates 10 лет назад
LMA UK Good lord, you're misguided. And arrogant, if you think you can just dismiss and place yourself as above codified combat practices which have informed battlefield tactics for centuries (and still do today) as "for immature children." The *point* is that since every single thing you mentioned is INSIDE of at least some codified fighting systems, and since those fighting systems have been used in myriad combat situations over the years, the idea that there is no way a martial artist training in any fighting style could possibly employ their art because their opponent uses one of those is asinine and puts your ignorance on full display.
@MichaelWestonAnimates
@MichaelWestonAnimates 10 лет назад
LMA UK Now, there is *some* truth to your words, though I don't think you actually realize it. 1. Codified fighting systems are artificial; they ultimately all point to a core of honing the ability to employ force efficiently with your body, be aware of your opponent and environment, and deal with hostile incoming force effectively. That does NOT make them useless, it just leads to the second point... 2. It does NOT follow from this video that Taiji is better than Judo. Since they work from the same set of body skills, what this actually showed was that this Taiji practitioner was more advanced in his skill than the Judo practitioner was. Now get the fuck out with your elitist bullshit :-)
@therealawakener7
@therealawakener7 10 лет назад
Michael Weston "Elitist bullshit", lol. Have a great day, I have things to do,:-).
@philv2529
@philv2529 8 лет назад
I think Tai chi doesn't get enough respect as a combat form because all that westerners are exposed to are hipsters in the park moving slow. I know little about it so I can't judge either way.
@cheapmovies25
@cheapmovies25 7 лет назад
They both were just being nice to each other lol
@chigglywiggly
@chigglywiggly 4 года назад
Both gentlemen. Good to see
@michaeljung4398
@michaeljung4398 8 лет назад
I am guessing just like everybody else. I wouldn't call myself neither a tai chi nor a judo practitioner. The judo black belt looks quite strong and most likely practiced judo for a long time, at least for 10 years. However, it was not easy to unbalance the tai chi master for a simple reason: tai chi practitioner practices to maintain balance a lot. In fact that's what the tai chi master said, test his "rooting". I am pretty sure he practices the push hands and rooting a lot. Maybe, there was previously agreed rules. Judo black belt didn't use many techniques. Somebody mentioned high grip was not used. Whatever it is, it looks like it cannot be used even though judo practitioner's hand was at the neck. Tai Chi master had a low balanced posture. There was too much gap between them for the most of the time. Balance must be destroyed before that kind of the techniques are used. Tai Chi master maintained the balance and the judo black belt didn't when he tried to apply the leg sweeping technique.
@marks5835
@marks5835 8 лет назад
+MICHAEL JUNG I do Judo and BJJ. The black belt was taking it easy or this show is rigged. He threw no combinations (where you set up a throw with another throw). He also didn't really change direction (Where you push one way to force a reaction and then suddenly change direction to make it easier to off balance them)
@gregcyr
@gregcyr 8 лет назад
+MICHAEL JUNG I'm in the same boat as Mark (do both), and the performance of this black belt is shameful. I could throw this idiot. Given his stance, uchimata would be my preference, but I see many other options.
@jordanpir68
@jordanpir68 6 лет назад
THE FIRST THINGS ANY JUDOKA LEARNS AFTER THE UKEMIS IS THE KUMIKATA AND THE KUZUSHI AND THIS FAKE MASTER DOESNT KNOW ANY OF THEM
@mike2011989
@mike2011989 6 лет назад
its hardf to unbalance someone if he pays you good money to NOT to it
@TheTimoNoir
@TheTimoNoir 6 лет назад
MICHAEL JUNG no point in rationalizing the nature of this video. Any person who trains will know this is complete bullshido
@Master-AGN
@Master-AGN 7 лет назад
CCP propaganda vid, don't waste your viewing time with it.
@Japsown
@Japsown 7 лет назад
Than why do you still watching at it? you hater is more than nothing so go back to your America white scam channel !
@Master-AGN
@Master-AGN 7 лет назад
Not watching it, just answering messages from trolls like you. You are full of BS. You are a paid CCP troll and it is UNAMERICAN, UNJAPANESE, UNAUSTRALIAN and stupid for any citizen of any country to buy Chinese product. Every time a US person or Japanese buys a Chinese product they are paying for bullets and bombs that will be aimed at them. Everyone knows what you are really like now.
@Japsown
@Japsown 7 лет назад
Shannon Lodge Speaking to a brainless like you it is really waste of time
@ghostkrowpembururajang2705
@ghostkrowpembururajang2705 5 лет назад
How did he got black belt
@baldieman64
@baldieman64 4 года назад
Xu Xiaodong on line 3. Will you take the call?
@taoliu3949
@taoliu3949 4 года назад
Xu Xiaodong actually somewhat respects Wang Zhanhai (the Taichi practitioner in the video) and has invited him to his gym in the past. He's openly stated that Taichi is good for Grappling and Wrestling.
@kjenterprises8215
@kjenterprises8215 10 лет назад
Please don't upload phony videos like this! Tai Chi is an excellent self-defense system. I've practiced Tai Chi for 30+ years and love it. Having watched this video at least 5 times, I can't believe the judo man failed to execute simple takedowns like tomoe nage or yoko guruma, or, seoinage. Or, Osotogari which is my favorite judo leg reap. When properly executed, there is no defense to solid judo. Your opponent will fall, period.
@svengalihelp
@svengalihelp 10 лет назад
I think the key is in Master Wang's statement at 1:28 when he say's "I think in some situations Judo might not be able to beat Taiji" - I think personally that this imposed constraints on what the Judoka were allowed to attack with - it is clear form their movements that they could have implemented the attacks you suggest and Master Wang would have had no real defence.
@TheUndertow666
@TheUndertow666 9 лет назад
The judoka did try O soto gari at 2:40. It was "reversed".
@1swt
@1swt 9 лет назад
There definitely are counters to the throws you mentioned, but other than that spot on!
@kjenterprises8215
@kjenterprises8215 4 года назад
@Kokwah Tan - Less than 1% of Tai Chi Academies allow sparring. It's not the art that lacks capability, it's the instructor. As you are well aware (there are judo styles throws, jointlocks, elbow, and knees strikes in traditional Taijiquan. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B7LMYGdKV1w.html
@TaiChiGhost
@TaiChiGhost 2 года назад
Heads up folks, Tai-Chi is real. Some 30 years ago, when my highest level (out of 11) Martial Arts instructors was new to America, we were looking for a place to practice and found ourselves at Lake Merritt in Oakland, California. She spotted a good sized fellow walking by the lake and they struck up a conversation. My teacher, Jane Yao, could spot a Master, or someone with strong potential, from the distance of a city block. Many Masters can do that. So naturally a challenge was offered, and no matter how much he struggled, the Judo Master could not lift her from the ground. He was an Olympic Judoka and twice her size. Furthermore, she was not in the least bit winded. This stuff is real, but the highest levels are difficult to attain, and the highest level Tai-Chi Masters are a little fussy.
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 2 года назад
Tai Chi is great, but it cannot overcome physics, or weight classes, and even in Judo, you are at a disadvantage against a bigger opponent. I would take the story of the larger Judo master not being able to lift her feet with a grain of salt.
@davidcdun8896
@davidcdun8896 4 года назад
I would Love to see Taichi vs Aikido, since both styles are very similar.
@PhilippeLarcher
@PhilippeLarcher 4 года назад
They are very different
@Leonidas3888
@Leonidas3888 8 лет назад
love to see shaui chiao vs judo
@thejoker3644
@thejoker3644 7 лет назад
According to my friends, it will basically be 2 judokas fighting against one another since both are very similar
@respeezy
@respeezy 10 лет назад
Fake crap
@SuperSneakySteve
@SuperSneakySteve 10 лет назад
FAKE! I bet I could take down that Chinese guy.
@keisuke185
@keisuke185 10 лет назад
i agree to you this is fake
@REALSTEELBRO
@REALSTEELBRO 10 лет назад
yeah i bet keyboard warrior...
@mateiionescu1817
@mateiionescu1817 10 лет назад
I'll take on that bet, five to one! Now, kindly post the video of your match with him.
@SuperSneakySteve
@SuperSneakySteve 10 лет назад
Matei Ionescu This guy lives in China, but if he does visit my country I'd do a friendly match with him. If you see him, please let him know!
@mateiionescu1817
@mateiionescu1817 10 лет назад
SuperSneakySteve Too late. Bets are on. Get a flight ticket.
@jimmyalderson1639
@jimmyalderson1639 6 лет назад
Clearly before the march his sensei went 'so, um, this guy's from Achina and the last person who best a Tai Chi guy was forced into hiding so, you know, let him win'
@jonmoris9354
@jonmoris9354 6 лет назад
Ive done judo for 8 years i can promise you this is a set up especially the last throw he went for one of my fave a hook to hopping osoto gari if he wanted he could have driven the master through the mat but didnt because he was told not to
@ospartiatis
@ospartiatis 8 лет назад
He should go to mma and see how far his little crap skills go. Any self respecting Judoka with as little as a brown belt would wreck him. I got 10k says if he comes to my club, I'll wipe the mat with him.
@spikebaltar5071
@spikebaltar5071 7 лет назад
True martial artist don't judge and assume. so far you're making your self look and sound like that douchy mma guy
@k9m42
@k9m42 8 лет назад
So Fake...
@zijunqiao5845
@zijunqiao5845 8 лет назад
why didnt the black belt try some seoi nage
@tombill8591
@tombill8591 4 года назад
He stood like a rock
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