These sleds are PERFECT for flatland trails in areas where trails are never far from a house. The quiet nature and access to the power grid make this a winner for those trails.
@@Samuel-wo2xz yeah starting to think the same lol. so far they've basically only had people ride that have never ridden before lol. like fkn jerryrigeverything haha. literally says in his video he has never ridden before
Let’s see how long these last on a handlebar deep day when it’s cold out. I can appreciate the tech, but I’ll trust my proven 2 stroke with a jerry can to get me wherever I need to be in real world mountain applications. At this point, these are more of a novelty than anything else.
Canadian Special Forces have been using custom made electric sleds for High Arctic Operations for years. If these machines make the cut for “mission critical reliability” for those guys, I think that I’ll take their opinion over yours.
Removal Battery packs would be a great idea/option to have. Design the battery to be taken out and charged like a power tool principle. Make it able to attach to the tunnel to carry extras and make sure they're no heavier than a jerry can of gas. I think that would address a lot of the concerns.
Other than you would need your forklift to take it into your garage to charge. I get where you’re going and it’s a great idea, but I bet these batteries are crazy big and heavy. I don’t know, I haven’t done much research, not interested in the electric thing so just speculating. Cool to see something different though, I’ll give them that.
@@specforged5651 if you don't know and haven't done any research, and aren't Interested why the hell are you here? And why the hell would you make yourself look so Ignorant by putting down something you know nothing about?
I'm over here like - I hope there ain't someone else coming down the trail on them turns - they're gonna hit !!!! I was out riding for 12 hours last night bringing in the new year - Stay safe on them trails Boyz !!!!!
Torque and acceleration is amazing. Electric motors are the ticket. Your wrap-up at the end was right on. When you’re out on the snow with friends in beautiful places, the sound of silence is awesome. Hella good demo. Thanks for posting.
One guy here is saying: "No sound to really get a bearing on other riders location, be it, in your group, or in the general area.🤔. (other side of a hill)" Do you plan to have a solution where you can find out where friends are, for example see friends location on a map on the screen? Would be awesome
Really impressed with the footage,but as a hunter who travels quite aways from home 140km range wouldn't cut it,I know it's a new idea and I really do like what I see,I live in labrador,-50 or colder some days,how much cold testing have they done?
Cold would be my biggest worry as well. I like the reliability and repairability of a combustion engine but man a silent sled would have it's benefits.
@@burk3552 Agree'd, and left overnight even. Im sure improvements will come. I'm Interested to see where it goes. Could be good at altitude as it wouldn't suffer and performance loss.
I bet with a big track and 4+ foot of fresh powder you could sack the battery pretty quick. Like on a near vertical runs. But constant smooth power is nice.
Even before that, at 6:35 or so, you can hear the motor and almost equate the amount of torque it is making. It doesn't even sound as though it's working hard to move that heavy-ass sled through the trees. Just imagine the improvement in performance when they begin using improved battery technology to make these sleds even lighter. Would be nice to see an experienced mountain rider pilot one of these sleds just to see what it can really do.
The problem with electric motorcycles is the range. They are nice, comparable to gas bikes but your not going to run the Trans Continental Trail on one. The same will be the deciding factor for the sleds. The can compete with gas but are limited in what type of riding you do. I'm aboard for electric ,they need to come up with longer run times and quick charging that can be done in the field.
Wonder how electric would be in the deeper powder…instant torque and power from a dead stop must make it rather easy to handle when ur going slower - Ive only had 9 days on a mountain sled over the last 3 years so forgive me if this sounds stupid but I feel like with the responsiveness of an electric sled you could get away with a much shorter track without a lot of trade offs - curious to see where this goes! It seems like a super capable machine despite any shortcomings with range
It all depends on depth of snow. Power or instant power really isn’t the issue. It’s floatation and traction. You can actually go slower with a longer track because of the traction it provides. You have to ride a shorter track much more aggressively and faster through the trees in deep snow in order to keep momentum. Even with a longer track, say 165 mountain sleds are so nimble and maneuverable length really isn’t as big of deal as you may think. “Turning radius” I guess you could say isn’t much different at all between a 146 and 165. That’s the simple version because there are a lot of variables with slope and snow condition. Hopefully that helps your question.
I can't deny I was a hater when I heard about these electric sled's. Wow they rip!!! Don't have to worry about low snow conditions and overheating or wrecking the engine on creek crossings etc. Cool.
That rips pretty good . Interesting to see if this is just the beginning, electric might be the way to go . I would love to rip one for a day to get a feel for it’s overall performance and battery life - fade as most batteries 🔋 do have some or substantial fade under heavy load / discharge. Looks like a blast 💥
These are the future whether we like it or not, but unless they've got some new magical battery tech, cold weather cuts ev car range in half almost when it's minus 10c, a sled doesn't seem like the first ohv I'd plan to go electric with until we get more cold friendly batteries.
This isnt the future. As we grow and become more reliable on electric..the prices will soar and be impossible to maintain over time.. the technology is there..your watching it...however the manufacturing of these batteries that contain these special metals and alloys will never get cheaper. Thats why we call them precious metals.. Would you be okay spending 5 grand every 2-3 yrs to replace your battery?. Highly unlikely!. Costs will only increase...and demand will decrease..And dont forget how clean these new snowmobiles are. Emissions are next to none with the new standards..and they will continue to only get better.
@@danielleheiget4517 unless they're in a heated garage or plugged in at all times insulation will only protect it for a short time. For instance all my milwaukee batteries have to be brought inside the house in the winter because one freezing night will wipe a full charge. God forbid the cells freeze up, then they're not going to recover. Bad enough when you're out a 100 dollar recip battery, but a 2 or 3000 dollar sled battery... Oof.
@@danielleheiget4517 or like a tesla, which I love btw, but here in Canada their range is cut in half in the winter months. Batteries do not like the cold, that's just how it is.
@@alexmaclean1 oh for sure, but the cold issue is solved, and the battery can heat itself while charging, meaning that it can totally stay outside all night
a lot of questions, how fast are they, what does the motor look like and how long can you ride before charging (whether your on high or low) and how will it handle with two riders.
This would be good for Ditch bangin but being the in the back country with a battery that could go flat sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. That’s some super hard snow. Would love to see how it last in powder
Still waiting on an electric mountain sled, that you can ride all day in the deep stuff. Setup snow like this isn't gonna suck battery, or fuel like 4ft of fresh.
Battery packs would be a good idea. If a person was able to bring a spare battery on the tunnel like a jerry can that'd be smart. I don't know if this has a removable battery but could be in the future.
This actually looks fine. Yes, I'd still prefer my big fuel drinking 800, but this is cool too. It looks like it still lifts the skis and it's still maneuverable. And range isn't that important for me. I'd still take a 2 stroke, but I wouldn't be mad if we were forced to switch to this
@@paddyg56472 I live in Québec,I read they’ve got heaters for batteries,is it true or not?Years after years snowmobile federation fight against pipes in trail here in Québec,we lost a lot of rights of way ,complained about noise.That why electric is good for the sports we love,have a great season be safe 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Unless they come up with some kind of battery that holds massive charge, isn't affected by cold temps, and can maintain the same performance throughout the entire charge this isn't something I see working. Modern 2 strokes are only increasing in power, reliability and fuel economy.
I like everyone else want to see this machine operated in -10f/-23c in 2+ feet of fresh snow of mostly wide open throttle. I'd like to know what the battery range is when ridding in these conditions. I feel as though the only market for these will be at Ski lodges out in the Rockies for ppl to rent and ride maybe a 40 mile loop. At 3:17 you hear him say that thing is crazy, then off in the distance further up the trial you hear a 2Stroke singing. That's what he was calling crazy. Not that lil rc toy he's on
@@ledzepandhabs yea from miles away.. you think they're only caused by sound? Better chance pipes will cause it before you get to it and cause it with the sled itself. I fail to see your point
@@KTMsoldier1988 Vibrations and snow dispersal cause avalanches, pretty simple, if you take away the sound vibration caused by ICE, then you have eliminated one cause of avalanche, the dispersal is one thing that you cannot avoid so careful where you ride.
@@ExploreUnderground The further away from snow hang you are the less vibration from ICE, less chance of dislodging loose snow, the closer you are the stronger the wave the more chance of causing the avalanche.
Least it's Not in the SLUSH bowl this time..but 130km.. isn't far enough for us in the WOODS and Does the range degrade with colder temps?? And Where are we gonna charge it.. When the gas stations are 140 Miles Not KM far apart.. Most of us are still carrying gas after 30 years. You'd think the Sled manufactures would up the Range with larger gas tanks.
@@gabrielwidehn3040 I own an Alta MXR, it’s incredible, really curious how many hours I’d personally get out of an EKKO. If I could get 6hrs I’d pick one up no question.
What happens when you sink it? Is electrocution a possibility? 120 volts is enough to kill a man. I’m guessing these are running close to that as some electric bikes are 100v.
I may have missed it, but is there any data on duration? I know terrain, riding style, temperature, etc. will impact how long the battery lasts, but there may be a table or something with some ball park figures.
Hey… Put a deposit on one almost 2 years ago… Was scheduled to test ride one in Whistler last March but COVID put an end to their test rides…! Anyone do any deep Alpine riding on one of these yet..? They say 140 km likely back East Flat riding…! I rarely ride more then 50 km in the Alpine… However that’s riding from Sea Level to 6000 feet… Anyone know how much battery this will go through Alpine riding in deep powder…? Thanks in advance;
Smooth power delivery ? Meaning a boring ride ! It's a Stupid statement . Smooth power delivery . Snowmobiling is a performance sport and the term smooth power delivery is a comment best used for a Paddle boat .
Ekko with the large battery pack ain’t that heavy. 266kg / 586lbs ready to ride ain’t that far away from a ICE deep snow machine with a full tank of gas.
I've always thought that electric motor propulsion was custom made for snowmobiles. Think of how many loud turbine three and four cylinder 2-stroke engines screaming through the mountains have brought down avalanches on our friends and family members and killed them.
First of all the only 3 and 4 cylinder sleds you’re going to see anymore are four strokes....so there goes that “screaming 2 stroke” theory ( FYI “turbine” sleds are actually quieter). And second, how many of your family members, close friends or hell even anyone you know has this happened to? I could go on for paragraphs at how ridiculous your comment is. And do some research on sound causing avalanches. But please let us know the number of people you personally know that have been killed in the situation you’re describing. And be honest. Go back to humping bunnies, just make sure your not standing right under one of those slopes your talking about when a screamin 2 stroke goes by and brings an avalanche down on you. Unreal
Just takes some time to get it to full charge … I can fill up my sled in 5min. That’s walking and paying and taking off . But I do want one just to have one !
No, incorrect. I had a skidoo ace 600 would go over 200 miles full of hard riding. Many 2-strokes I had can do over 150 miles. Electric has come along way but battery improvement is still much needed for range to be on the same level with gas.
Wtf guys? When are you guys going to test these machines and some real snow. Get the hell out of Ontario and Quebec and come out the British Columbia. I've been waiting my whole life for an electric snowmobile to come out. I just want to see what that thing can do in real snow up in the mountains and if it's as awesome as I think it's going to be I'll take one at least
That always make me laugh 😂 come on you got what in BC ? Mountain riding,circle around all days,up and down seriously.Quebec got more than 30 000 km of groom trail interconnected with all northern city where you got all facilities you whant.Here you can ride for month and never have to put your sled In a trailer to go to the other city’s.For mountain riding we got Saguenay-Lac-Saint-Jean,Gaspésie and for the brave,the Torngat mountain chain can satisfy all your wish.Do some research before writing about a country that you don’t know.Quebec got the biggest trail network in the world.