Tait Shuttles 4/2/24 Sandringham Line Melbourne 

While the Taits and Sydney Reds sound quite different, the sounds emitted by the motors and gears are equally attractive. The addition of an extra trailer car is something quite new since last year and of course causes the motors to work harder and consequently sound better.

@@tressteleg1 i thought these and the sydney rattlers sound exactly the same

Definitely not. The equipment from for the Sydney cars came from the British Metropolitan Vickers company, while I believe the Taits were from General Electric USA. The Sydney cars have much coarser gears, so sound much lower pitched. Anyway, you can make some comparisons in this Playlist. Listen with a good sound system or quality headphones. "Sounds Only" videos ru-vid.com/group/PLLtOIHp49XNAz2Tc2I0PZZzsUYriF7zaX

@@knightman1970 They both use straight cut gear's and the same wheel diameter, though the 3000 series Sydney cars uses much bigger traction motors, as they only have 2 motors per car unlike the Taits with 4 smaller motors per car. With the larger motors on the Sydney sets and the requirement for larger gears, they have a lower tooth count, making them lower pitched.

@@tressteleg1Interesting about the GE motors. One of the things I loved about the VR was the use of British and American equipment.

From memory, Sandringham to Saint Kilda was the last stamping ground for the Tait Trains.

Yes, sound great.

Well one camera click is okay I suppose, ha ha. Hope you got the shots you wanted.

@@tressteleg1 I take 3 at a time to make sure if it's close enough and that it's in the right spot. The other shots were either glaring by the sun, backlit or wrong side because one side with the shadows had no poles or other stuff blocking the view where as the right side had poles or something in the way.

Getting the perfect photograph or video is not always easy and sometimes the angle is no good on the sunny side so the shaded side of the train may have to be used. Anyway, I’m sure you will improve your techniques with time.

Yep and you could not stand still for a few seconds to be included in my video. Never mind, ha ha

@@tressteleg1 Oops was I meant too? We were metro chasing so we were quite eager to catch the next service in 4 minutes time haha

Never mind. Maybe next year sometime. Anyway it’s good to see young people interested in Trains that disappeared from service when their parents were still kids! Hopefully their interest will continue into the future with enough of them becoming active in Elecrail to keep the Tait running long into the future.

It might sound like 100 miles per hour but I think 70km/h would be more realistic. You can get some idea by watching the scenery pass the windows. The motors are 750 volts while the overhead voltage is 1,500 so motors are permanently in series pairs. When starting off, all 4 motors share 1,500 v so get 375v each. As speed picks up, motors are connected in parallel pairs so get the 750 each. I remember the wooden Evan’s carriages in Brisbane but not sure if I ever rode them. The English Electric locos did sound impressive. Glad you liked it. 😊

@@Steven_Rowe As you are a fan of sounds as I am, you might like to listen to,some,of these but use good speakers or headphones turned up a bit loud 😁 "Sounds Only" videos ru-vid.com/group/PLLtOIHp49XNAz2Tc2I0PZZzsUYriF7zaX

@@tressteleg1 you are correct,you need headphones which is what I use. I also like EMD 2 stroke diesels. As a young boy in London the old 1923 standard tube stock amongst others sounded brilliant. You would also get the ticker ticker ticker of the air compressor.. The Sydney rattlers were great when you got wheel slip on wet rails.

@@Steven_Rowe Good re headphones. Yes, some of the older tube trains had interesting sounds. Regarding wheel slip with Sydney Red Sets (not red rattlers, a Melbourne term) you will see that happen in a few scenes in this video. Single Deck Electric Trains Sydney Part 1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gyKaEJRqocI.html

@@tressteleg1 Don't spur gearboxes produce the loudest sound?

@@ebtv445 Yes, that is true especially for Taits and Sydney Reds. Comeng and Sydney V sets aren’t bad either, and also Brisbane’s original EMU sets.

👍. Melbourne had an almighty storm Tuesday night, one day after I left. Powerline pylons were crumpled to the ground, trees, everywhere uprooted and many houses I gather still without power. Hopefully you will avoid that sort of problem 😊

@@tressteleg1 In 2 weeks i see more😉 Winter here in germany - we have no snow and it is warm.

@@peterausfranken Yeah well this year was one of my coldest summer visits to Melbourne. I needed a jacket for about 12 of the 18 days. But for you from Germany, it would probably have been a heat wave. Too bad when it got to 35 a couple of times. 😆

@@tressteleg1 My heating system is out since a week. So i can save a lot of money😉 In Canada and the most of the USA they have a hard winter with snow und realy cold and here in western europe we it's nice an warm.

@peterl1964 Well house heating here in Queensland for me is only a tiny expense. Maybe an hour or two using the reverse cycle air-conditioner gives plenty of warmth until bedtime. It’s not expensive to run. Occasionally the terrible winter weather in the USA and sometimes Europe has been on our news lately. No doubt it will all be blamed on climate change.

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@@williamvaszocz1150 Yes, but with a lot of older rolling stock like theTaits, they can sound much faster than they are actually going. But all good fun.

It’s normal in restorations like this for different carriages to be painted or otherwise modified differently to represent different eras in the working lives of old Trains. Over the years, different colour schemes were applied at different times. That applies to most transport vehicles.

341T is part of the Elecrail red set. Era of significance is the “Baby Boomer”. Elecrail is currently working on re activating double ender motor car 470M. They are also working on another motor car 327M. Both motor cars are in the same livery that is applied to 341T. The aim is to run a 7 car train, or 2 trains. The 4 car set and the 3 car set. 381M, 208T, 230D and 317M are painted in the 1936 colour scheme. All suburban trains wore this livery until 1956. The railways then phased that livery out painting the carriages in the all over red, brown roof and moonestone grey windows. Hope that clears things up. As for the wheel flat on 381M, it is hoped to get that rectified soon.

@craigsoden4996 The colours of 341T are what I remember from my first visit in 1965 and to their end. February last year I visited Newport and did a video of Elecrail activities including quite a bit of 470M but publication of that video was never authorised unfortunately. 327M may also have been included in the video. Anyway the plans for a 7 car set sound good. I also remember that work was progressing on a swing door motor although a lot of work was still required to bring it up to operating standard. Let’s hope that the wheel flat can be attended to before too long. Anyway I wish Elecrail all the best in achieving these goals.

That applied to pretty well all public transport in the days before air-conditioning. You could usually tell when a Tait photograph had been taken in summer - all the doors are open!

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@@williamvaszocz1150 Yes, if they have bought a ticket. Most tickets have been bought in advance. I’m not sure whether any are for sale on the day of travel. As far as I know, anyone can get themselves put on the mailing list for future tours.

@@tressteleg1 I will have to look into it, I now live overseas so I would like to have tickets already lined up for when I visit Melbourne again.

@@williamvaszocz1150 I’m not sure what tickets you are referring to. If you are talking about rides on the Tait set, it would be wise to contact Steamrail Victoria to see if you can get on their mailing list. However if you are referring to getting a Miki card for Melbourne public transport, if you catch the Skybus from the airport to Southern Cross (former Spencer Street) station, up until 7 pm there is a transport assistance and sales Office just inside the station entrance along Spencer Street and located between Bourke and Collins Streets.

I’m pleased you like it. As for the wheel flat, I’m pretty certain that when it did Pakenham shuttles a year ago, one axle had a flat at that time. Getting the train over the wheel lathe unfortunately would probably not be a cheap or easy thing to do.

@@tressteleg1 I heard you on that given the age of that preserved Tait Set.

@@DKS225 The age of the train is not so much the problem with removing the wheel flat, it’s a matter of who would pay for it. I expect lathes and other train maintenance equipment is currently owned and operated by Metro. Whether they have been asked for a favour or not, I would not know.

@@tressteleg1 iirc there's a wheel lathe at Newport, in the east block which is owned by Downer rail

@TrainSpotterKate The last 2 words could be the problem. What would they charge, if the Tait could be accommodated, and what would be the cost to get the Tait there and back?