Thank everybody for the positive fed back he will see his kids this weekend it has been gaps but the effort is improving a little I just thank Karamo on shinning the light on him & every one who is watching I’ve red every comment I appreciate the positivity 🫶🏽god bless
Awh that’s great! Kinda makes me wanna call my bd. My daughter turns 3 this November and he hasn’t had a care in the world to be a parent. He hasn’t seen her since she was 6 months old. We live in New Orleans which isn’t a big city at all. And I’ve never moved. It hurts me because I want the best for her but I can’t make a man be a father. Sad thing is I don’t even think he knows her actual birth date smh. This gives me hope though. Maybe one day he’ll wake up and leave the hood ish alone. Many blessings
@@Chase_Dapremont777 hey love, my daughter is almost 5 her dad asked me to have her and left after two weeks. Like you I never begged chased or harassed him.. long story short I ran into him at his job and gave him a second chance. He’s been back in her life since she was 3 and honestly he’s made me see him in a different light. There’s nothing he want do for her, he actually goes over and beyond. I say this to say, be patient, hold back the hate(and believe me it’s hard cause I hated him with joy😅), be the best mother you can be and go to God or whatever larger spirit you believe in. All of us are doing great and our kids love us because of it!! ❤
Baby Mom is so combative at first because she’s fighting for her daughter, but when he shows emotions she falls backs , she allows him to be heard and even makes suggestions..I think that if he showed her effort in his child’s life she’d actually support him but he only gets the hostile side of her because of his absent ways. she’s a good mom & he loves his kids he just loves his peace away from STL as well. I have faith that if he works on self they could have a better coparent relationship 👏🏾
The very definition of arrested development. This young man went from pouting backstage and whiny excuses to genuine emotion, pain, and vulnerability. It instantly softened everyone on stage. He got to be understood because he took the courageous risk to be vulnerable. We see he just didn’t have the tools to do any better. What a powerful episode ❤
He took a big step in the right direction towards his future. She was willing to work with him for her daughter’s sake and that is what a good mother does.
I’m glad Karamo asked for the father’s side of the story. He was so tense in the beginning he didn’t even want to come out. He definitely need help emotionally in order to move forward with his new life and with kid kids. His trauma doesn’t excuse his current behavior but it does give a reason. Now that he’s come to terms, it’s his decision to make good choices.
He also didn't deny everything, it seems like he didn't understand what the other perspective was. When he said about the calling more, it's like they had argued about that but he just didn't understand because he probably never had a parent call everyday. Sometimes it's perspective and healing can happen. Kudos to the mum, women always do what they have to do but she is working extra hard to foster a relationship for her children. That's very respectful. Some men don't show up for their kids, don't care and get involved. He showed up for the show and showed us, he's not a deadbeat but he's broken.
She is a phenomenal, compassionate and reasonable woman who clearly puts her child first. He is dealing with a lot as well and my heart broke for him. I wish this family the best.
Life Lesson: Don't let your trauma define who you are. You can't just go through life blaming your actions on the past and think that excuses all your bad decisions.
And most important: Deal with your trauma! Face it, go to therapy whatsoever. Surpressing it NEVER works. And then shit like that happens. It will come back. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not even in 20 years. But at some point it will all come back and f you up.
Karamo...this episode touched my soul. I suspect that the confessions this young man made is shared by so many Black Men. You helped him use his words to express himself and provide a safe space to do so. My prayers for growth, peace and most importantly healing are with him as well as his daughter and all involved. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@taaayYes, it shows. Continue being a great mother to your daughter, God will continue Blessing you, you were so understanding and still kind toward him, everyone saw that-you even asked Karamo about help with his GED, that was awesome! Keep staying positive, I believe you can make it-all of you, God Bless you🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️
I have a 2 year old daughter that turns 3 in November and my ex begged me to have her but left us since she was 2 months old. I never forced him to be in her life but one day he’ll see how much he missed out on.
@@ChelseaChronicles Fr sis especially our black men. When I conceived her I was 25 turning 26 in August. The month I conceived her was in Feb of 2020 so literally right before the pandemic started. I wasn’t ready to be a mom and always wanted to have kids in my 30’s but when I tell you this man was crying like a 5 year old begging me to keep her then fast forward to when she was 2 months old and left our house and got in another relationship, then after that hasn’t seen her since she was 6 months old for 15 minutes it always trips me out like wow this is the same man. Crazy thing is that my daughter looks just like him. Same eye brows, eyes, lips, cheek bones, and brown skin. She just has my nose and green eyes. I never knew my dad because he’s been in prison all my life so I always said I wanted my kids to know they’re father. So I’m really leaving it up to my daughter if she wants to have a relationship with him one day I’ll bring her to him, but if not I’m not gonna push it. Also this is his first and only child too just like me which blows my mind. Apart of me cuts him slack because he was 23 when she was born and he just turned 26 and I chop it up to him being immature but on the other hand I get mad as hell because I know he can do better. So because of that I don’t even talk to him about anything. I never talked about this to anyone and I guess that’s why I just vented but damn. Kids deserve the best especially our black children.
@@iknowthetruthcommonsense3643 Ummmm I understand that but one thing about me is that if I’m wrong I say that. 2 I never pursue/chase/go after/blow up a nigg@ phone, none of that. If a man is around me it’s because he wants to be there. My bd pursued me and ran off and never took care of his responsibility as a father. And 3 me being hard to be around if that was the case is no excuse for a man with a car not to see his child in over 2 years especially if we live in the same city. So politely you can stfu and know your facts. Please practice what your user name is and get common sense. That man was at my house with no job and was using drugs halfway through my pregnancy. I took care of everything. So if anybody was hard to be around it ain’t me. Please don’t come at me with no rude ish because bby if I wanted to drag his name I can along with read tf outta you.
Honestly I love this show for so many reasons. I really love how the guy had a open space to be vulnerable and talk about his pain. Because yes what he is doing is wrong but he needed to let that out, who knows he could’ve ended up committing suicide had he stayed in St Louis any longer. Moving was the right thing but he fucked up not coming thru for his children and their mothers. He needs therapy, to really heal and he needs to be surrounded by his kids
This was an extremely sensitive episode. I really hope this young man was receptive to the therapy and they are doing better. I was really pleased at how Karamo handled this. This young man has his hand out, reaching out for help, he just needed someone to take his hand and lead the way.
Your life's circumstances do NOT have to be perfect or great in order for you to take care of your responsibilities. That's what being an adult is about. You bring a child into this world, take care of it. Period.
There’s so much here. I really hope he follows through with therapy so that real growth can happen. He reminds me so much of students I have had in the past. He’s still that 13 year old boy when he went into foster care. When things get too hard he moves on to something new. I guarantee when those women tried to help him grow that’s when he ducked out of those relationships. However now he’s made his bed and has more responsibilities and needs to be there for those children. It’s imperative for him to work through the pain and the trauma in order to be there for his kids. I don’t think the women want him back I think they just want him to be present and help provide for his children. She too is frustrated and needs to probably have help processing and working through her stuff too. It’s unfortunate however that women don’t often have the choice to distance themselves and come back when they’re better. They have to balance self and their kids. I truly hope they all can grow from this and show up for those kids.
I’m sorry but single moms go thru hell outside of our kids and we STILL show up for our kids. Men can pick and choose. I get he’s going thru a lot but you don’t get a choice when it comes to your kids. Hell he might even gain some happiness if he was an an involved dad. I pray this cycle can be broken. He gotta want better for himself and stop running from his problems.
One thing that'll help is if we break free of this toxic mindset/belief that a man trying to open up and express his thoughts, feelings and emotions, or to remove himself from a toxic environment is a sign of weakness; it isn't. Yes, women absolutely do go through hell but when it all boils down, which gender, at the end of the day has more available resources, opportunities, spaces etc. to seek shelter/help? On second thought… Frankly, it really shouldn't be a contest over who has it worse in this world. If we could all come together and help each other through whatever we're struggling with, we may actually get somewhere.
Right! I feel for him n I hope life feels better for him soon but I’ve seen moms push thru and/or balance all that like it’s nothing. We need to see more stability between moms n dads as a team
More of our men need this man !! 😢 some our women have to choose wisely because we are all responsible for our realities… if a man or woman isn’t emotionally or mentally stable then don’t reproduce because with children , you have to have the highest expectations!! Smh I hope he flourishes !! Trauma is real asf !
Facts trauma is definitely rude and some people don’t understand that they don’t understand the trauma is real in mental health is for real you don’t know what a person is going through inside deep inside you don’t know what that person is going to.. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Karamo you did it again!!I applaud you! I truly believe this young man can be a great father once he is healed! He has to heal for himself first though!
I love how baby mother 2. Even tho she wants him to do better and do more. But she is also wanting him to have better and do better for himself. And she is cheering him on.
Miss this show. He took himself out of a place of harm. These things take time. But in the meantime, I hope one day he can reach his goals and show up as he intends, for his kids. I hope this young woman can be supported how she needs to as well.
I definitely felt where he was coming from. It’s hard being a black man living in St Louis. It’s a deadly city. I fear for my sons lives everyday. I hope he gets the help he needs. Big hugs
Kid in a grown man body… “I don’t feel like I have to call everyday”. But their mom has to physically be there and take care of them everyday…. Some people just shouldn’t have children
Exactly! I honestly feel like too many excuses was being made for him. The mother could be delaing with just as much too. Yet he goes to create three kids, three different women. He knows what he's doing.
This made me cry real tears we cant keep having kids with hurt ppl. Because hurt ppl hurt ppl and it bleeds on to the kids and the cycle doubles in the wrong direction. Pride is the devil man i swear
I am so confused why women date men like this, a man that has kid(s) and can't afford a cell phone or money to buy a bus ticket. Why do these women not love themselves.
I pray he does put in the work to get better and be better for his kids because I can already tell that co-parenting with this women is going to be great. She's so patient. She listened and started making recommendations
Great job on this one Karamo! 👏🏽 big ups to the mother for letting the fathers pain be recognized. She went against it for a second, but in the end her motherly instincts showed. Grear mother.
God used her to bring him to Karamo’s show so he could get the help he needed. Isn’t He Good?! I hope they all heal so they don’t pass this trauma to another generation.
I grew up in St. Louis. I love my city, but it's turned into killing fields, violence and desperation. It was already highly segregated and the poverty levels outweigh resources. It's heartbreaking. As much as I LOVE my city I have no wish to return. This young man's trauma is one of many.
That’s a good mom right there. Glad I watched the whole clip before reacting because whew! But I truly hope he is able to get the help he needs. For himself and his children, his legacy. It’ll take work but am rooting for him. But in all honesty, after this 3rd baby, you might want to pause before having anymore until you’re straight. Best of luck to them
Bless his heart I was ready to judge this young Man Until I heard his story! God help this young man find himself and peace so he can be a better person and father. In Jesus name! Amen! He reminds me of my son!
As someone who is a single mother I tell my the father of my child to work on himself first for him then for our child. In my eyes we have to put ourselves first to become the best versions for our children. Yes it hard doing everything by myself but I know that with time he will heal and be there for our child in the best way. If I do t give him the chance to heal and. Build himself he will always be holding himself back. I know other won’t agree but I’ve done the work years ago with a therapist and he hasn’t. It all comes down to getting tools that work for you as a person. This man isn’t a bad man. He has gone through a lot and needs time to heal and grow. Give him some time and I bet you if he puts the work In god will show you the change. ❤ my heart goes out for everyone in this situation beCause I’m living in the same situation. BUT god shows me the change everyday because I acknowledge the pain and hurt on BOTH sides.
Wow I feel so bad for this man. You can tell he’s been through the ringer he cares about his kids he just going through so much. :( Props to the woman too she seems nice and is a strong woman. I hope this man finds happiness. We are ALL here for you ❤
Being from STL in the wrong area is not a joke. And then he was in foster care. He seems like he want to do better. I pray he gets it together and can be there for his kids.
He's bettering himself for him &his kids &I can't be mad at it... I congratulate him for facing facts &wanting different I pray God watches over him &keep him &he receives a overflow of blessings on his life PROUD OF YOU, KING ❤💪🏿 &don't fuss with him but talk to him you'll get more out of him Queen don't you worry God have you both you can tell he's just not you're baby's father but a man you care about
Most hurting people puts on a brave face. I'm so glad the young man was able to explain his history of pain. May God heal him and make him whole. In Jesus name 🙏. Amen 😊
It would have been easier for Tamar to bash him and keep his kid away from him, and she wouldn't be blamed for this in the general eyes of society. But she is doing all this for the sake of her child. Women like Tamar deserve more recognition and support from society. Karamo did a good job creating the right environment for Hershawn to express himself (excuses or not) cos sometimes that in itself can be a turning point. I pray that he takes up the therapy and hope Tamar gets all the support. Wishing them the very best.
I really like and respect this woman. She has compassion for her child and wants her to have a dad who is around, but also she understands the father and is SENSIBLE and sees that he has to get some therapy to work out all his trauma. I think he should just start off with small steps like definitely calling his child every day or every two days maybe? Not only will the child get so much out of it, HE will start to really get positive feelings and motivation from this relationship too. It's like a step by step program, really. Thank you, lady, for being understanding and logical while also being a really topnotch mom!
Please don’t give up on therapy just because it “didn’t work” the 1st, 2nd, or even the 3rd time. A lot of times the facilitator can make or break the experience, and it’s important to find someone that you connect with, so that you can begin to make some progress.
I think he’s also hopping from woman to woman looking for a mother figure - the way he spoke of his mom compared to grandmother is a big deal. I hope he can stop spreading his seed and get help to heal.
Not saying what the father did excused him especially from his kids, but I understand it. This is why it’s so important to hear a man’s side of the story as well. You never know what they’re internally hiding or going through and when it comes out when they’re in a safe space or feel they are. If you know what black men go through on a daily especially with gangs and losing people- you would understand why he wouldn’t want to be there. Again, I’m not saying it excuses anything, but for him to not want to be apart of that life anymore is huge and he’s trying to protect his energy. Losing people and the lifestyle of some of these places especially where he’s from isn’t no joke. It’s very low vibrational and draining. So I understand him. I do. It touched me to hear him open up.
It’s him tryna make excuses back stage that got me pissed. No matter how you try to flip it he’s logic is scary and he’s not making his case any better. “I don’t see my kids as much as I use to I less’in the time I see them” that’s basically what he said. do you think that’s a good thing?! Are we suppose to feel sorry that you don’t make time for your kids or try harder?! You PURPOSELY moved out of the state…….GET A PHONE! Call her! Call this child! She is a LITTLE GIRL! I hope this doesn’t happen however some girls who grow up with dads who don’t try will grow up trying to find relationships with men who aren’t shit & will make excuses like her dad and she won’t think it’s a problem because her dad did it!!!!!!!!!!! Is that the message you want your kid to think is NORMAL! That’s just pitiful WOW he has TWO LITTLE GIRLS! Ima feel bad when he have sons cause your teaching your sons how to RUN FROM RESPONSIBILITY & NOT wear condoms & get everyone and anything PREGNANT!!!!!! This is just SAD!
I really REALLY REALLY REALLY need women especially black women to pay attention to this. Sometimes its better to be child free or explore your options with other communities who value family and children. Please PLEASE take heed in who you are having kids with. This is not to blame anyone this is a learning example of what NOT to do.
Lord. Here you go. How about just choosing better black men? As a gay black man I have been around a lot of black women and yall are always choosing these types of black men. You don't want the ones who have their head on straight for some reason. You can try to explore your options with other communities, but 9x out of 10 they aint going for it.
@@TasteMyRainb0w please don't speak for other men. You are black you are not white or any other race. You can't say what they are or aren't going for. Don't gas light bw into believing there is enough unicorns to go around. There simply ain't. Scholars researchers and the like along with every other living human being knows this. Please walk away from women convos. Gay or otherwise doesn't give you the leeway to interject your opinions on things that don't affect you nor do you have any experience with.
Hurt people hurt people!!! Did this yg man have his father as a kids growing up??? How can a yg man be a dad when he was Never taught !!! He isn’t a bad person …. Sending Love&Prayers to this yg man & also to the children involved. Love , Light & Healing ❤️🙏🏽🇨🇦
@@Belladonna-ot3to @ thsts your opinion. I FIDNT SAY EVERY MAN DID I ???I SAID HOW CAN HE BE A GOOD DAD WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE HIS FATHER ARIUND TO TEACH HIM. I’m happy for you … so this don’t obtain to YOU THEN.. SOOO JUST KEEP IT MOVING … 🫡❤️🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🇨🇦
@@pamelastates5600 If you look back at your grammar, you did. I went through what this man’s daughter went through. So don’t tell me to keep it moving. You’re just like this guy - making excuses.
At the end of the day some of us women, have to chose wisely. And some of Us can't do that until we see examples of what a good mqn looks like. Some mother's aren't teaching, and fathers as well.
Lord, I hope these women do not leave their children with him unattended. He clearly has trauma, but those children’s needs don’t stop when it’s convenient for him. Wishing them all the best.
Glad to know that Karamo, unlike his predecessor (Maury,) at least gives all parties in a particular issue the chance to share their side of the story and encourages the studio audience to do the same; no, hearing all sides and giving people free passes/excusing their behavior/actions is not the same thing.
If he wants to get better for himself and his children; he needs the therapy. On a side note, us women needs to make better decisions who they decide to have children for. No education equals no child support.
@taaay thank you for being the woman that you are your strength is awesome and I applaud you for that... as a woman thank you for not condemning him and still helping him regardless of what you guys go through
When you live in an area where you have no peace, its hard to function .. paranoia can crumble you.. i feel for him, hope everything changes for the better
i so respect that child mother on stage for giving that man his moment to express his pain even though he wasnt supporting her daughter. she didnt insult him, laugh, stupes or disregard his trauma. These child mothers need to understand that when we talk shit to men when they vex because the men not stepping up..But men do hold these things against these women and it makes them back off from being a goo dad. On the other hand he needs to want better for his kids and whether or not he cant take the mothers he has to see the bigger picture of being there for his kids and not having them go thru what he did
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370- y’all always be saying dat dumb sh!t to women but not to men 😂😂😂 y’all luv excusing bum men’s behavior for procreating all these children & then don’t want to raise ‘em
That's how I feel. Yea he might have needed to get away because of traumas, but you can't even make a phone call back there to check on your children? If it was so bad for him there, what does he think his kids will have to go through living there? If he knows what it's like, at the absolute least he should always call to offer support
It’s a despicable lack of manhood. He can’t call daily, can’t send money, cant get a GED, can’t stop making new kids that he can’t support. He’s not the only person that’s experienced trauma in this situation yet the moms are still there to raise their children.
I feel him I understand him I hear him. BUT the mothers dont have that luxury of not being there everyday for the child. ..mothers stay strong until ur soft life presents itself. Cause life should not be life-ing like this.... Prayers up for all involved !!!
I like that he admitted that he cant be there because he not right but your still a father… Yo bms going through it but i bet they still get up and get shit done ALONE fa ya babies while you take off…You going through dont got shit to do with you just picking up the phone and calling or FaceTime ya babies
I feel awful for the children they are just kids did not ask to come into this world or make any bad past decisions that led to the trauma they now will have to face. The kids deserve better
That doesn’t justify his actions. If you have children, it doesn’t matter what you’ve been through you decided to have children your children didn’t decide to be here on their own. He gotta man up regardless! Every parent does!
What he did was bad but somehow I feel like he wouldn't have been the best father for his kids before he spoke to someone, there is a lot that has happened way before he got into foster care and unfortunately your surroundings and past make most of who you are...he better get that help 1st
@@DBrown-vg1fi This comment, yes! I mean I understand black men and the trauma they go through in their lives and it's not the easiest to be open about it. But if you know you have to work through a lot of serious trauma, why are you having so many children you aren't ready for? Work on yourself before having kids. Your kids didn't ask to be here. He better take advantage of that therapy Karamo offered him.
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 Because women like these think they can make men change. If he didn’t take care of his first born or his second child. What makes you think he’s going to change for the unborn child? This is his motive, he makes kids and runs away from his responsibilities. You can see how much interest he shows when it comes to his other kids. I believe coming back to that place brings bad memories but as a father he still needs to be there to support & teach his kids good memories.
He was correct Saint Louis aint the same he made a good decision but dont neglect your children in the process of your new journey. FYI Im headed out of the Lou in 2 years planning as we speak. Blessing to them
I truley understand that hes been through alot i pray he finds what he needs to grow and move on from his past. Just please, please can we for one moment take accountability for our actions and realize its not just about us. He brought 2 children in this world and another on the way. Think to yourself for one moment. I need to stop having children. I am not fully capable of providing a good life for them because im still going through shit mentally and financially. These kids are innocents and have no understanding about traumas. They just know your my mom, your my dad, take care of me. He may not understand his actions come with blessings and consequences but he will once he sees the light because hes clearly in a dark space. I know its not fun its lonley just make sure you do the work for not only your children but for you. Release that battle. Let them demons go. Wish him and everyone who feels his pain the best of luck ❤
@@MissFoxXXXstop making excuses. What he did was still wrong regardless of his past trauma 🙄 y’all hear a sad story and start absolving everyone of responsibility like they’re toddlers
@@ekalorschmekalor2885 ....meanwhile newer black parents who willfully and Lovingly teach their youth things like Amerian Law recitation and statistics, business and how to professionally conduct themselves.. African awareness and culture history. Teaching them about investing etc and investing in who you directly have a hand in molding... Young black Kings that are invested in and chosen with Love and Patience don't turn around and act like this. Yall let babysitters, music and TV raise ya youth cuz YOU have kids and didnt plan em being in the street. You didn't plan and welcome these kids. That's why you do bare minimum, think you did "fine" yet end up still abusing them in ways you can't imagine then get one as a boyfriend and think he's "toxic" Why don't you do the math and quit flapping your excuse making self serving gums. The excuses are in YALL BLACK WOMEN. Not the atmosphere you trashly affect and constantly neglect accountability for. You are a toxic race of aggressive child abusers and replicate slavery mentality by beating your kids from impatience. You are the problem end of discussion now go continue to fail your children.
I understand this mans trauma. Im Not excusing his behavior, but i understand. I'm from St.Louis and my city is dangerous for many young black men. Pray for his mental health!
He isn't lying!! St.Louis is hard for young man n everyone!! Especially when u r black n struggling wit family Curses! It's hard losing someone u love 2 gun Violence, and a loving grandparent that was there for you!! STL ISN'T WHERE YOU SHOULD BE!! GET THE HELP BUT GET BACK IN YO CHILDREN’S LIVES!! GOD BLESS
This is why these type of men move from state to state so much. So the next women cant be told about how much of a dead beat he is and the cycle continues with him leaving kids in every state. If you cant take care of them and do your part, stop having them! If you dont know how to be a parent yet, stop making more kids! Doesn’t make any sense. No matter what trauma you have, making kids isnt gonna fix your problems and its not an excuse to abandon them. Sorry not sorry.
As a woman and A mother; Ladies we must stop having children by men that we aren't married to. He feels that he needed to leave St. Louis and he did; I applaud him for leaving to better himself. WOMEN, we cannot control or dictate where our children's father live, and vis a versa.
