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Dan Orlovsky and Sam Acho join First Take to discuss problems they have with college football in regards to scheduling, the transfer portal and NIL deals following the Florida State Seminoles' massive 63-3 loss against the Georgia Bulldogs in the 2023 Orange Bowl.
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@tornatic1983
@tornatic1983 5 месяцев назад
I agree with Dan. Transfer portal should start after bowl season if its possible.
@TheRayzerBandit
@TheRayzerBandit 5 месяцев назад
But like Acho brought up, the portals schedule is solidified to when it is, they can't move that. So the only way to adjust the overlap is to move the bowls themselves.
@marcuscooper8595
@marcuscooper8595 5 месяцев назад
ESPN discussing this is hilarious. ESPN & the CFP Committee is the reason it happened. They've made it about money instead of the games. So when you devalue no playoff games, opt outs and transfers happen
@keithconner9036
@keithconner9036 5 месяцев назад
Good point. If there was NCAA leadership, the Pac 12would still be alive. ESPN and Fox causing the fire then complaining about lack of fire dept is hypocritical
@AsianNIGMA
@AsianNIGMA 5 месяцев назад
Irrelevant, FSU got crushed by Georgia 2nd and 3rd string players, especially after seeing the other playoff games, the committee got it right.
@scottchapman3507
@scottchapman3507 5 месяцев назад
​@@AsianNIGMADarwin award winner here
@TomManning-cs4el
@TomManning-cs4el 5 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂ur lying Georgia put 50 point on Florida state by firsts string and then put in second string only put 10 point in second half​@@AsianNIGMA
@HTHAMMACK1
@HTHAMMACK1 2 месяца назад
@@TomManning-cs4el The second string put 3 TDs on the board.
@Layuth
@Layuth 5 месяцев назад
BOTH of these teams wanted to make a statement and BOTH teams did exactly that.
@rodrickcrestwell2997
@rodrickcrestwell2997 5 месяцев назад
Well said
@Kjbxll
@Kjbxll 5 месяцев назад
Wym both teams? Georgia wanted to make a statement. FSU really didn’t care. They wanted to let young freshman get their feet wet
@BlackMarvel25
@BlackMarvel25 5 месяцев назад
Yep. FSU made a statement that they didn’t care and just crapped the bed, Georgia statement was to show they deserved to be in the top 4
@Saberwolves84
@Saberwolves84 5 месяцев назад
@@BlackMarvel25 Georgia lost Alabama no matter what happened this game Georgia did not deserve to be in.
@basicmovietime3851
@basicmovietime3851 5 месяцев назад
You sound scared homie
@brandonwaddell6949
@brandonwaddell6949 5 месяцев назад
Anyone who thought that FSU was going to take the game seriously should've thought differently. Just imagine performing & doing a job perfectly for 13 weeks & not getting rewarded in the end. & you think we were going to play our hearts out in something that was basically a scrimmage game🫤as an FSU fan I cared nothing about what the score was cause it didn't mean nothing cause guess what, Georgia at home right now watching Michigan & Alabama compete for a national championship. So, on that 63-3 victory good job Dawgs👏but you're still at home watching the "REAL" game so what was really proven🤷‍♂️
@rodrickcrestwell2997
@rodrickcrestwell2997 5 месяцев назад
All facts
@Los150
@Los150 5 месяцев назад
💯💯💯
@leahswagert433
@leahswagert433 5 месяцев назад
And Ga didn't do their job for 13 weeks?🤔 The UGA vs Ala game deciding touchdown was result of a blown call. That call cost us the win, we didn't EARN that loss. Despite that 3 point loss, the Committee didn't want the first ever 3peat...js
@brandonwaddell6949
@brandonwaddell6949 5 месяцев назад
@@leahswagert433 No they didn't do their job for 13 weeks cause they LOST their championship game buddy
@kevinwhite3685
@kevinwhite3685 5 месяцев назад
​@brandonwaddell6949 so did TCU last year so what's your point? When has a #1 team lose to a top ten team by 3 points and fall 5 spots?
@LOGEZZZZZBRO
@LOGEZZZZZBRO 5 месяцев назад
Dan’s spitting facts over here.
@drjaywhitlock
@drjaywhitlock 5 месяцев назад
Spittin skrate fax
@AliFrankTheTank
@AliFrankTheTank 5 месяцев назад
For football .. but school/classes like acho said
@deewill2131
@deewill2131 5 месяцев назад
💯💯💯💯
@alfcmccoy
@alfcmccoy 5 месяцев назад
I lean towards Dan's take. Also, I believe they should put a cap on how many times a player can hit the transfer portal(other than situations like illness,coaching changes, military). Some people have transferred the same amount of years that they have been in college.
@MrAchieve2believe
@MrAchieve2believe 5 месяцев назад
This is a bad take. After the first transfer you have to sit out a year or be graduate, like it has always been. The one transfer is a good idea because prior it was a case by case and up to someone’s opinion
@yengvang8737
@yengvang8737 5 месяцев назад
Transfer portal fucked up the entire bowl games. Do that after bowl games not before it. Idk if this happened in the early 2000s but back then we see legit superstars showed up and be great, now we see more transfers than seeing superstar caliber plays.
@deplorablelibertarian
@deplorablelibertarian 5 месяцев назад
Dude, you guys gotta stop blaming it on the transfer portal. FSU on its best day won't beat a tough Georgia squad. What messed up the national championship last year when Georgia DID THE SAME THING????????
@snarf0596
@snarf0596 5 месяцев назад
Transfer Portal isn't the problem. If coaches are allowed to leave on a whim for more money why can't players decide to leave when they feel it's for a better situation. Let's not pretend all the problems came from transfer portals.
@AsianNIGMA
@AsianNIGMA 5 месяцев назад
What do you expect though, if you’re for sure leaving for another team, why would you risk getting injured? Look at what the broncos did with Russ, they benched him because they’re gonna trade him and don’t want him getting hurt
@pokemaster211
@pokemaster211 5 месяцев назад
“bowl games” are a waste of time. Playing for a nothing trophy vs a nobody team with nothing to gain. Real fun
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 5 месяцев назад
​@@deplorablelibertarianAre we acting like Georgia didn't lose to Alabama?? A team with no offensive line. A team with a wingback playing quarterback. A young team. A team whose center can't snap the ball. That's who Georgia lost to on at a neutral site. Florida State at full strength vs Georgia would've been a good competitive game
@sportbikejesus6297
@sportbikejesus6297 5 месяцев назад
What people seem to overlook about the blowout is how incredibly hilarious it was.
@MrMegaGamerMan
@MrMegaGamerMan 5 месяцев назад
I think FSU DID make a statement with that showing: CFP didn't take them seriously as a team, so the team didn't take their bowl game seriously
@mitchellschmalzer5309
@mitchellschmalzer5309 5 месяцев назад
They were also missing what 8-9 starters on defense and both there starting rb and both Wrs
@princebowie9950
@princebowie9950 5 месяцев назад
Those FSU starters boycotted.
@HonchoThatGuy
@HonchoThatGuy 5 месяцев назад
They still would have lost && that's facts
@MrAchieve2believe
@MrAchieve2believe 5 месяцев назад
And looked silly doing it. Life ain’t fair, take pride in your craft. Take pride in your brotherhood
@jahqayburnett7736
@jahqayburnett7736 5 месяцев назад
​@@MrAchieve2believe life ain't fair so everybody that opted made the game unfair as well it works both ways 😂
@dsdddsd4543we
@dsdddsd4543we 5 месяцев назад
Acho is right. The Spring semester starts next week, and the transfer portal window ends tomorrow and opens again in April. If students can't transfer mid-season, they should be able to enter the portal until January 20th, right after the CF season is over.
@humblehugh23
@humblehugh23 5 месяцев назад
Based on players opting out. They should have put FSU vs Liberty and Georgia vs Oregon. It would have been a better matchup in both games. The Committee did that to justify for their reasoning behind the selection by making a team look bad in a meaningless game nobody in Garnett and Gold cared for. Fsu plays Georgia and Alabama in the upcoming years. They dont duck competition. We open to play SEC teams (Ole Miss 2016, Alabama 2017, LSU 2022 and 2023) Georgia and Bama on our future schedules. We will be back.
@WillyOrca
@WillyOrca 5 месяцев назад
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
@sovleang9660
@sovleang9660 5 месяцев назад
100% agree!! FSU is more at par with Liberty. The game against Oregon was such a blowout!
@blewgrassboy8461
@blewgrassboy8461 5 месяцев назад
FSU Snubbed both teams that got in lost
@jimk7882
@jimk7882 5 месяцев назад
@humblehugh23..your team will never be back..they're quitters..Georgia got snubbed too but showed up and showed out. Disgustingly pitiful exhibition of quitters.
@michaelmurphy5919
@michaelmurphy5919 5 месяцев назад
They had to give Oregon the win. Liberty had no business ever playing in a bowl that big. I don't care if they are undefeated in that cupcake conference. No business there. Liberty 😂 😂 man
@picxlmedia7856
@picxlmedia7856 5 месяцев назад
20 players didn’t play for FSU. No one has that many not playing bruh. Even Kirby Smart stated the same.
@Goat1229
@Goat1229 5 месяцев назад
FSU wasn’t trying to compete … can u blame them 🤔
@mpup54
@mpup54 5 месяцев назад
they had their junior varsity squad out there
@ronnietrek6376
@ronnietrek6376 5 месяцев назад
@@mpup54because there is really no reason to compete with your starting squad for some meaningless bowl from which you as a team don’t achieve anything
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
​@@ronnietrek6376yeah, people arguing are ridiculous. What does Georgia win for demolishing FSU? A bowl of oranges.
@thephenomkid24
@thephenomkid24 5 месяцев назад
Still a game to play and you don’t ever want to lose.
@WillyOrca
@WillyOrca 5 месяцев назад
​@thephenomkid24 who said we WANTED to lose? I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we would've loved to have won, we just also didn't *care* whatsoever if we lost.
@343Films
@343Films 5 месяцев назад
Great discussion here. Both guys are absolutely spitting facts
@jaysonderrickson9540
@jaysonderrickson9540 5 месяцев назад
Compete for what? See everyone keeps saying they had to play but play for what exactly? They got screwed out of playing for the championship and they said screw it. Pretty sure without a transfer portal, those same players wouldn't have played and rightfully so.
@JoseGonzalez-zg8pl
@JoseGonzalez-zg8pl 5 месяцев назад
Exactly
@ronnietrek6376
@ronnietrek6376 5 месяцев назад
Yes, transfer portal wasn’t the reason. It was more of a statement like you said. If I was in position of a coach and my team got robbed the same way as fsu, I would do the same thing, I wouldn’t sign my team up for a bloodbath show with a top team in the SEC with absolutely no reward for it, and therefore risk my current and perhaps future starters getting injured in the most meaningless bowl game as I have said, just for some beer addicts to delight on it. Indeed, it is crazy how some fans thought it would be an “amazing” matchup. In terms of the committee and espn a-likes, all they want is money, they knew it wasn’t going to be a great matchup considering the fsu situation but they’re mad they didn’t get the desired amount of profit off of it
@Himothy_da1st
@Himothy_da1st 5 месяцев назад
Literally the most meaningless game this year I'm glad our players opted out Go Noles 💪🏾
@quindonunderwood8442
@quindonunderwood8442 5 месяцев назад
Loser mentality for sure
@quindonunderwood8442
@quindonunderwood8442 5 месяцев назад
Loser mentality for sure
@quindonunderwood8442
@quindonunderwood8442 5 месяцев назад
Loser mentality for sure
@88jaspersimmons
@88jaspersimmons 5 месяцев назад
Exactly!
@jonathonedwardmiller
@jonathonedwardmiller Месяц назад
every game matters
@dmanpoole
@dmanpoole 5 месяцев назад
Dan is ridiculously underrated
@dlshort9338
@dlshort9338 5 месяцев назад
Dan is ridiculous, I’ll agree with you there😂
@brianherrera1390
@brianherrera1390 5 месяцев назад
​@@dlshort9338with what takes or you just talking? He is usually the one that makes the most sense. REALLY!
@crittoneida958
@crittoneida958 5 месяцев назад
I remember his counterpoint to a Michigan cheating scandal take …”guys you all are forgetting a key point here…Michigan is really good”….insightful & well research analysis…thanks Dan.
@johnnybgoode8104
@johnnybgoode8104 5 месяцев назад
he's ridiculous. but not underrated.
@benburnside5049
@benburnside5049 5 месяцев назад
You're joking right?
@barak-rocky-giles2081
@barak-rocky-giles2081 5 месяцев назад
Great points all-around on this topic. I like Dan's idea about changing the schedule and portal but was also glad to hear Sam mention the issue with the coaches instability as well. To be honest, I think if they stopped coaches from hopping around first, it will make the other issues with NIL & transfer portal much easier to solve.
@mynumberoneguy
@mynumberoneguy 5 месяцев назад
Not anymore. It's Pandora's Box. Too late. The coaches made it about money and opportunities for decades. Now the players want the same and why shouldn't they. Let's stop the bull$hit. Have a NFL model and commissioner. Then we will get some sense of normalcy. Until then it is what it is.
@vdoggydogg3922
@vdoggydogg3922 5 месяцев назад
These portal players would have start at another school for the spring semester..can't do it earlier.
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 5 месяцев назад
He’s so right about the transfer portal and the schedule, like what is college football doing having the title game that late into January. Start the season earlier in august.
@monsta6501
@monsta6501 5 месяцев назад
Also loved Sam bringing up the age old topic that most sports analysts and even fans have forgotten. These college players are STUDENTS as well. Student first, athlete second. They love to judge these players and their performances under the same microscope as professional athletes but always disregard the fact they are attending school that involves classes, schedules, deadlines, projects, etc.
@dasdguy7606
@dasdguy7606 5 месяцев назад
Transfer portal is like having free agency in the latter part of an active season. What could go wrong?
@chipferguson5129
@chipferguson5129 5 месяцев назад
Fairly obvious
@TheRayzerBandit
@TheRayzerBandit 5 месяцев назад
The problem is, this is COLLEGE sports, so the academic schedule takes priority over the athletic one. The only way to prevent the portal from overlapping with bowl season is to move the bowl season since the portal HAS TO be when it is.
@michaelrawson7250
@michaelrawson7250 5 месяцев назад
ESPN made it that way with saying bowl games are meaningless years ago and those on the CFP committee will lay on their decision and say “well this is the last year so it won’t be a problem going further…” That only works for so long
@JayDee-qm7zl
@JayDee-qm7zl 5 месяцев назад
They are meaningless they are there to make NCAA more money how do these games benefit the player
@tobiaswilliamson00
@tobiaswilliamson00 Месяц назад
It's not just that ESPN owns the broadcasting rights to nearly every bowl game, it's the fact that they make only a handful matter. For example, College Gameday always does an episode at the Rose Bowl regardless or whether or not it is a Semifinal that season or even if the Sugar Bowl was the bigger and more popular Semifinal match up the nation than the Rose Bowl. This is important because for people like me who was born and raised in SEC Country, we don't care about the Rose Bowl when it's not a semifinal nor if it wasn't the BCS National Championship Game during the first half of BCS era. In fact, in the post WWII era, the SEC has been very irrelevant in the Rose Bowl. Because Gameday continues to do annual shows at the Rose Bowl, they are telling us what Bowl games matter. Personally, get rid of the meaningless lower tier Bowl games like Boca Raton, Myrtle Beach, & Pop Tart bowls, increase Bowl eligibility from 6-6 to 8-4, and get rid of conference tie ins and go by the oldest played bowl games, bowl season outside of the NY6 just might matter again.
@JaylenBester
@JaylenBester 5 месяцев назад
The NCAA showed FSU that they didn’t care about them so FSU showed that it didn’t care about the NCAA 🤷🏾‍♂️.
@ratiugjr
@ratiugjr 5 месяцев назад
A significant overhaul of the college football system is essential for this sport to be meaningful for the future. It's time to look at anti-trust and monopoly issues with: the Transfer Portal, outrageous and inequitable NIL agreements, the creation of a Mega Conference. Additionally the hideous barrage of ESPN's rapid repetition self promoting "Live Sports" commercials, have made this years college bowl season an abysmal joke.
@ncgolfpro23
@ncgolfpro23 5 месяцев назад
College Football has definitely changed in a lot of different aspects. I do see and respect everyone's opinion because I see it from both sides. I feel and do agree that NIL and Transfer Portal are destroying and ruining College Football. I don't feel student athletes should get any money at all but call me old fashioned old school cuz I am honestly I don't agree with it I grew up in 70s 80s 90s etc where College football players played for the love of game their school worked hard in school and on field to earn their dreams of making to next level. Transfer Portal needs to be adjusted and modified in alot of ways I can understand it helps teams but also hurts teams. Looking at it from a student athlete point of view I can understand why and respect their decision if they choose to enter Portal. CFP is also ruining College football just like BCS and AP/COACHES POLL IN the past moral of story each and every year College Football = CONTROVERSY. Like Coach Kirby Smart stated something needs to be done now and changed in college football it's definitely out of hand with controversy bias favoritism but most of all MONEY MONEY MONEY MAKES ME SICK CUZ I've been a College Football diehard fan for 43 years. NIL, Transfer Portal, CFP and MONEY is ruining and destroying College Football and im about done watching it follow recruiting like have for years etc. It's down right PATHETIC. FACTS!!! 💯
@adamowen366
@adamowen366 5 месяцев назад
@ncgolfpro23 There’s a reason why the blue bloods formed during those time periods, because those schools found ways to pay their players when other schools couldn’t, NIL has actually evened the playing field a little bit by giving non blue bloods a chance to LEGALLY pay their players.
@richardtravick5794
@richardtravick5794 5 месяцев назад
None of that is an issue. It's the CFP committee, ESPN,ETC.
@ncgolfpro23
@ncgolfpro23 5 месяцев назад
@richardtravick5794 I totally agree I forgot to mention the Networks ESPN analysts etc CFP committee etc
@phillyb.4682
@phillyb.4682 5 месяцев назад
​@@ncgolfpro23If coaches get paid, schools make mad money off of these players that love the game, therefore players should be compensated for their commitment to the school and the their hard work on the field. Why is it that you can be semi-pro or pro as a teen in soccer in Euro, tennis worldwide, and baseball in the minor leagues.... so those athletes are the exact same age as college football players. Sooooo..
@luke_8_17
@luke_8_17 5 месяцев назад
Just goes to show, the play off committee makes decision based off the mighty dollar.
@PoliticallyIncorrect90
@PoliticallyIncorrect90 5 месяцев назад
The only academic effect with Dan's proposed changes with the transfer portal would be on quarter schools, since they go back to school right after New Year's. However, there are ways around that, too.
@WillyOrca
@WillyOrca 5 месяцев назад
Expecting FSU to show up and play was nothing short of expecting them to celebrate being robbed. Why give them their ratings/show, if they're going to snub you like that?
@leahswagert433
@leahswagert433 5 месяцев назад
And UGA didn't feel robbed? We wanted to prove we were THAT team and did. Bulldogs pulled the curtain down on the Committee.
@lt.aldoraine9405
@lt.aldoraine9405 5 месяцев назад
No you didn’t cause you lost to Bama. That was a play in game and you lost!
@6.0king
@6.0king 5 месяцев назад
Its hilarious georgia didn't get to avenge the bama loss cause fsu didn't play 😂 63-3 and won nothing but a bowl of oranges....thats tough id be mad too 😂
@brandonknipp220
@brandonknipp220 5 месяцев назад
Exactly why fsu will continue to be a mid program
@kenw2225
@kenw2225 5 месяцев назад
Fsu is one of the greatest football schools, both now and historically. At worst, fsu is 10th best football school ever. About 100 other d1 schools would trade their history for fsu
@realman1349
@realman1349 5 месяцев назад
To those saying NIL should be taken away or modified, it isn’t going anywhere. The Supreme Court ruled it was player’s right to earn money off their own image. The NCAA has no say or authority over it. Additionally, the transfer portal will unlikely be taken away now that it’s here. The NCAA will face stiff resistance and lawsuits if they try. It will just have to be up to individual school programs to create an environment that makes players want to stay.
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
Actually the supreme Court hasn't ruled on it yet. They just made a statement of how they would likely rule after ruling on a case about the NCAA limiting scholarship benefits.
@nathannewman6555
@nathannewman6555 5 месяцев назад
The Supreme Court is fickle depending on who is in there. They have changed their opinions on many subjects before. It's amazing how NIL must be allowed for college players but for typical workers companies can force you to sign a non-compete clause to limit your employment opportunities. Those clauses can even stay in effect after they fire you.
@dominiccarter5070
@dominiccarter5070 5 месяцев назад
@@nathannewman6555 Then complain to your local government.
@BHox01
@BHox01 5 месяцев назад
College football has been an awful look for college football for a while now, with the last month being some of the worst ever.
@UltraSur76
@UltraSur76 5 месяцев назад
Not an FSU fan (actually Canes)...but good on the FSU players taking control of what they could, since the committee decided to take control of something they shouldn't have when sports is all about what you do on the field....and one team did that and another team got invited in because of $$$.
@langstondah7350
@langstondah7350 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Cane fan!! And much respect!!! FBA/B1
@xHBTDx
@xHBTDx 5 месяцев назад
Yeah they some quitters 😂 taking control is not taken the invitation to the game.
@langstondah7350
@langstondah7350 5 месяцев назад
@@xHBTDx Maybe you shouldn't have lost and you could be undefeated like FSU Keeping hope alive! You'll get there....ONE DAY! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 13-0 UNCONQUERED! SUCK IT HATER!!! FBA/B1
@xHBTDx
@xHBTDx 5 месяцев назад
@@langstondah7350 dude we just went undefeated last year becoming real national champions! Ignorant Oh yeah…. 63-3
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
​@@xHBTDxno if they didn't take the invitation the committee would have put in another team. This way the school gets payed and they hit them where it matters...In the ratings.
@AliFrankTheTank
@AliFrankTheTank 5 месяцев назад
Next year, just put all the bowls besides the playoff on the same day lol
@johnnybgoode8104
@johnnybgoode8104 5 месяцев назад
Schools aren't changing their enrollment dates for football. School starts around Late August / Early september and then Jan 15th. The only way Dans suggestion about the portal being closed works, is if the entire football schedule moves up. That would mean players are playing games without being in any classes. He doesn't think his takes through to their logical conclusion.
@sunwukong32
@sunwukong32 5 месяцев назад
That was the first thing he suggested, move the season up and be finished by the end of December.
@kevinrowland5753
@kevinrowland5753 5 месяцев назад
It actually makes a lot of sense, stupid
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
Plenty of sports play while not being in classes so that works just fine
@reddabos
@reddabos 5 месяцев назад
A lot of school’s college seasons already start before the school year. UCLA for example doesn’t start classes until the end of September
@bigman7570
@bigman7570 5 месяцев назад
It's bad for the committee, you can't screw a program and expect them to just take it
@Spithatruth
@Spithatruth 5 месяцев назад
This was embarrassing not because the result but the fact that people think they gave up. Serious programs don't cry a river and have all there players give up. That's just not how it works.
@bigman7570
@bigman7570 5 месяцев назад
@@Spithatruth FSU has won national championships so they are a serious program, FSU being a program with a history is the reason they refused to accept being thrown away so the committee could chase dollars by putting Bama in over them
@88jaspersimmons
@88jaspersimmons 5 месяцев назад
@@Spithatruth You are just virtue signaling at this point. Those FSU players didn’t owe you or anyone else anything. Good for them.
@Spithatruth
@Spithatruth 5 месяцев назад
@@88jaspersimmonsFSU had a chance to show what type of team they were by the end of the season when they played Louisville in the ACC championship. And they suited up and showed everyone what type of team they were in that game before the decision. And then after the decision they showed what type of team they were again by giving up. They owed their fan base and themselves more respect.
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
​@@Spithatruththey showed what they were made of by holding a team that averaged 30 ppg to 3.
@CoachRJ334
@CoachRJ334 5 месяцев назад
Thank you Dan ......
@andrejamison2723
@andrejamison2723 5 месяцев назад
29 scholarship players did not play for FSU. It was a protest movement due to ESPN politics with the SEC
@Mandrahale
@Mandrahale 5 месяцев назад
College football was a farm system for the NFL. Only difference is the player chooses when they get called up to the big leagues. It’s also a farm system to go to another farm system. NIL: You wanted players to get paid, well here you are. Pandora’s box has been opened and it will never get closed. How can you go back to “normal”? You did it to help player flexibility. Now you have an ever expanding brush fire in an open field. That brush fire is the transfer portal. You’re beyond the point of return.
@Catdaddy17
@Catdaddy17 5 месяцев назад
So FSU players made a mockery of a game that was a mockery to begin with. ESPN screwed FSU out of a potential pay day and gets upset when FSU returns the favor.
@88jaspersimmons
@88jaspersimmons 5 месяцев назад
Yep. Pretty much. It’s a joke
@gregcolin9488
@gregcolin9488 5 месяцев назад
I am a FSU fan. I was pissed watching the game and at FSU's attitude towards not showing up for the game when they could have proved something by beating Georgia who was regarded as the #1 team all season long. I would have been even more pissed if I paid all the money to show up to the game in person as a fan. Much respect to Georgia for how they handled it attitude wise. Georgia proved they deserved better. FSU proved they deserved what they got.
@jamaal8786
@jamaal8786 5 месяцев назад
Your not an FSU fan. You view this as surface as everybody else. The reality is those guys that opted out came back to play in last year bowl game and decided to return for another year, ALL FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP RUN. That was the goal and when they were told their games didn't matter they were that hurt. Thats how much they put into this season. So its understandable to make that quick decision from their perspective. Would have been great to have them, but I don't blame them for not putting their future on the line any further after they proved to everyone already they should have been in the top 4. There was nothing more to prove. The adults (in the committee) made a business decision vs. honoring the integrity of the game. So you can't blame these young men for doing the same. To say they should have proved what they already proved is you feeling entitled as a viewer/fan of being entertained. And not looking at the reality of the situation. 2) Georgia was coming off of a loss and they didn't want to end on a loss so their players decided to come back and finish strong with a W (Kirby said this in their pre Orange bowl press conference). Props to them. But these are two different circumstances and people are downplaying the hurt after OPTING IN FOR AN ENTIRE SEASON for a Championship. Georgia couldn't be that mad. They earned a loss in the SEC championship, easier for them to opt in the game.
@gregcolin9488
@gregcolin9488 5 месяцев назад
​@@jamaal8786 Agree to disagree. You already lost thinking you are the judge on who is and who is not a fan. Just because I won't blindly agree with certain actions I'm not a fan? Ok. Sounds like FSU might have been the entitled one. Crying they didn't get what they thought they deserved and then proved they didn't deserve it. I just feel bad for Georgia. I'm sure they were hoping to have and actual competition. Sure i'm not disagreeing that the committee made the absolute wrong decision but in life we don't control others, we only control how we react. And they looked like a bunch of children with how they handled it, not a top 4 caliber team.
@JG20204
@JG20204 5 месяцев назад
I’m an FSU student and I feel the same way.
@stephenlukcasy9047
@stephenlukcasy9047 5 месяцев назад
They are not getting any money they could get hurt playing in game. And the NCAA screwed them for playing in the national championship. Why would they play for a nothing game
@matthewsawczyn6592
@matthewsawczyn6592 5 месяцев назад
@@stephenlukcasy9047 proof that the “bowl game” has completely lost its luster. Winning the ____ Bowl means nothing anymore. Players just care about the Championship now. A shifting landscape I suppose
@timmyteaching
@timmyteaching 5 месяцев назад
So good that Kirby highlighted the issue. He didn't have to do that.
@taylorking1134
@taylorking1134 5 месяцев назад
Agree, definitely shut some of these SEC homers up
@Wideout4
@Wideout4 5 месяцев назад
Compete for what??? An Orange Bowl Trophy? Georgia knew FSU was gonna opt out and ran it up on third stringers. Then on the couch watch the playoff just as we are. But hey we just got our Next QB to “Compete”
@donniedarko979
@donniedarko979 5 месяцев назад
College football is in trouble. Right now, as I type this, Wisconsin is up 14 to 0. Bowl games have been horrible.
@nicholasfolkes7628
@nicholasfolkes7628 5 месяцев назад
This didn't age too well
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 5 месяцев назад
tied 28-28 in the 3rd qtr now
@donniedarko979
@donniedarko979 5 месяцев назад
@joeg5414 The other two games are blowouts, so thankfully, ones worth watching.
@mpup54
@mpup54 5 месяцев назад
better check that final score
@beezyburna
@beezyburna 5 месяцев назад
people wonder why they put the 4 they did lol
@kadarrisfavors7842
@kadarrisfavors7842 5 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂 U can’t stop stuff like this but, should have let us in. 😂😂🤷🏾🤷🏾
@jimgoodyear6756
@jimgoodyear6756 5 месяцев назад
I love that the FSU players sat out. Why participate in an absolute screw job. It's a bad look for ESPN and the playoff committee. I love it.
@PTCulture757
@PTCulture757 5 месяцев назад
I agree.
@brockb4452
@brockb4452 5 месяцев назад
Not at all. If anything, FSU just proved the committee’s point that they aren’t good enough
@jjwats12
@jjwats12 5 месяцев назад
@@brockb4452- Huh? Since Georgia beat the 3rd string FSU players who many never played a snap, that proves the starters weren’t good enough for the CFP? Great logic.
@DMaster81
@DMaster81 5 месяцев назад
I’m not even sure FSU did anything between the ACC championship and bowl game. I don’t care about opt outs. Georgia wasn’t 60 points better even with opt outs
@acrane1100
@acrane1100 5 месяцев назад
63-3. Turns out they are indeed 60 points better. Playing backups the second half. Cry more.
@mateo1726
@mateo1726 5 месяцев назад
@@acrane1100yeah second half was UGA back ups v FSU back ups that played the whole game. UGA showed how much better their depth is
@Anthony-wv9kd
@Anthony-wv9kd 5 месяцев назад
@@mateo1726Florida state got the last laugh after Texas and Alabama losing js🤷🏾‍♂️
@FaceFamous
@FaceFamous 5 месяцев назад
​@@Anthony-wv9kdNo they didn't because both games came down to the wire. 1 in OT. FSU barely could win against Louisville. That game was horrible with starters. And the backup QB. They would of lost in CFP. You're speaking from hindsight. No matter who was in 2 teams were going to lose yesterday. So what? then their fans will say what you just said.
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
To you idiots in the comments Georgia does have more depth. That is the advantage of winning two nattys but scoring on a team that was just curb stomped for two and a half quarters while fresh is not the same as scoring on them while both sides are fresh.
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 5 месяцев назад
Wrapped up before the new year? I love seeing all the biggest bowl games on NYD. Please don't change that!
@DoYouEvenBlog
@DoYouEvenBlog 5 месяцев назад
PREACH.
@brentshealer7314
@brentshealer7314 5 месяцев назад
Bring back transfers have to sit out a year. I get why that went away during Covid, but that needs to come back. Only transfers that do not have to sit out a year is if your current team coach has left
@troybaxter
@troybaxter 5 месяцев назад
I think this has to be the restriction. Maybe with exceptions and an ability to have a waiver (grad students, Tez Walker situation, etc.), but the current transfer portal system is not helping the game. Something has to change, and it is either going to have to be timeline-wise since the portal cannot move due to academic restrictions or we "punish" players for jumping ship.
@darylcarr8283
@darylcarr8283 5 месяцев назад
The CFP Committee (and the NCAA by extension) didn’t help incentivize "student-athlete loyalty" to any specific program by telling FSU their actual performance throughout the regular season was meaningless compared to how "sexy" their roster looks for future bowl matchups. If I were a FSU starter I would've passed on this bowl game too; especially if I were declaring for the draft. As for UGA, yeah it sucked to have that one loss at the most inopportune of times kick you out of the bracket. Hopefully the expansion of the bracket will help accommodate all "deserving" 1-loss teams. As for the transfer portal, it shouldn't be allowed mid-season. That should apply to players AND coaches.
@RoSaWa386-33
@RoSaWa386-33 5 месяцев назад
Uh... how was TCU's blow-out "a team that doesn't belong" look last year?
@MattBuild4
@MattBuild4 5 месяцев назад
Why does TCU's loss to Georgia define them as a program, but Florida getting blown the f&ck out by Nebraska was never used to define what Florida could be?
@Unlovedmale48
@Unlovedmale48 5 месяцев назад
It showed that bowl games are meaningless unless you are playing for the championship.
@philmorris8862
@philmorris8862 5 месяцев назад
Only FSU seems to think bowl games are meaningless. By not showing up they can whine about being left out without proving they belonged in the playoffs. Had they beat Georgia, I would be the first to say they should have been included, but by not showing up and embarrassing those that did show up, they proved they did not belong in the playoffs.
@bigman7570
@bigman7570 5 месяцев назад
​@@philmorris8862there was no way FSU was even getting close to beating Georgia without their star QB and you know it, the committee also knew it and that's why they put FSU at #4 and Georgia at #5 so when Georgia beat them casuals like you could say “see I told you FSU didn't belong in the playoffs“
@Unlovedmale48
@Unlovedmale48 5 месяцев назад
@@philmorris8862 What did Georgia get for winning? Nothing. They don't suddenly get in the playoffs now.
@philmorris8862
@philmorris8862 5 месяцев назад
Maybe you have never played the game. The joy of playing well and winning is all most of us ever get. It is playing not working and it is a game, not a profession. If you don't enjoy it enough to want to play and win, I feel sorry for you or them. @@Unlovedmale48
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 5 месяцев назад
@@bigman7570nah theyd win easy if it mattered
@ShaunWarren-ni5ro
@ShaunWarren-ni5ro 5 месяцев назад
As a FSU fan who cares the game didn't count! We got our check from the game the banks closed today but we'll cash it tomorrow 😉 go noles!!!
@kevinrowland5753
@kevinrowland5753 5 месяцев назад
63-3. Would have got blown out at full strength too
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
​@@kevinrowland5753with what facts. Literally nothing to prove that.
@jspres86
@jspres86 5 месяцев назад
"The answer to all of your questions is money." - Don Ohlmeyer
@Blayze1017
@Blayze1017 5 месяцев назад
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Jawja made a LOT of lemonade.
@bradfordmitchell3135
@bradfordmitchell3135 5 месяцев назад
No they didn't but fsu sure did
@ATLAXTA
@ATLAXTA 5 месяцев назад
Actually we made orangeade. 😂
@King-ry4mo
@King-ry4mo 5 месяцев назад
Shout to the teams who's players play in the bowl games. For example georgia and alabama last yr. Just means more in the sec.
@krakenNation
@krakenNation 5 месяцев назад
Well actually SEC is why we have the FSU situation in the first place I blame SEC and BIG 10 for trying to create these 2 super conferences now an undefeated FSU ACC Champion doesn’t get a playoff berth and right now FSU will start a mass exodus of ACC now. Watch FSU,Miami,Clemson,UNC,etc now leave. College football will be 2 super conferences that compete very soon the SEC and Big 10 that’s it
@King-ry4mo
@King-ry4mo 5 месяцев назад
@@krakenNation struck a nerve
@LSMILLC
@LSMILLC 5 месяцев назад
This is the sole responsibility of the Bowl committee. Everybody is afraid to direct the frustration at the root of the problem. And thats on the committee.
@Blayze1017
@Blayze1017 5 месяцев назад
Lol!!!
@blackboy539040
@blackboy539040 5 месяцев назад
It’s on them they got beat 63-3 😂
@bradfordmitchell3135
@bradfordmitchell3135 5 месяцев назад
It is. They screwed Florida state and there is repercussions that will continue to come from this.
@sneakervulture
@sneakervulture 5 месяцев назад
@@bradfordmitchell3135no tf it won’t lol FSU has been getting clowned all day for getting beat by 60 and spending all December pouting like spoiled children. The only repercussion is Saturday made FSU look bad not the committee
@bradfordmitchell3135
@bradfordmitchell3135 5 месяцев назад
@@sneakervulture the orange bowl was a joke that the committee caused not FSU
@uwarrior
@uwarrior 5 месяцев назад
Dan is forgetting that these kids have to enroll in CLASSES at their new school for the next semester lol
@DefreshionClothing-mw2zv
@DefreshionClothing-mw2zv 5 месяцев назад
Dan laid it down!! The transfer portal, is becoming a form of escapism from turning around a program!! What made me a SUUUPERFan of NCAA College Football!!
@ChristopherLeskanic
@ChristopherLeskanic 5 месяцев назад
If Jordan Travis wouldn't have gotten hurt we wouldn't be having this conversation!!
@CleanMusicLover229
@CleanMusicLover229 5 месяцев назад
Or if UGA would have beaten Bama
@sirtalkalotdoolittle
@sirtalkalotdoolittle 5 месяцев назад
It was a post-season game for Georgia and a pre-season warm-up for FSU.
@gbailey1958
@gbailey1958 5 месяцев назад
Warm up for what ?
@IAMCAMO904
@IAMCAMO904 5 месяцев назад
It's not bad for college football. When you tell kids winning doesn't matter then why should this particular game matter to them? They did what was best for them. Yes the committee got it wrong because both teams they picked over the teams who deserved to be there lost. So definitely not an embarrassment stop choosing people who strike out playing kickball make decisions.
@Lonnyboss70
@Lonnyboss70 5 месяцев назад
Dan makes a great point!
@412StepUp
@412StepUp 5 месяцев назад
The ACC shouldn’t even be considered a power conference.
@UltraSur76
@UltraSur76 5 месяцев назад
hahaha....ACC 6-4 to SEC teams this season, try again.
@nwilliams6768
@nwilliams6768 5 месяцев назад
Acc have more rings in the last 10 season then all conferences except sec so make your statement make sense
@XXxCHRISxXX
@XXxCHRISxXX 5 месяцев назад
As a Tennessee fan I was passed that Georgia didn't make the cfp. Hopefully the change will keep this from ever happening again.
@fehner27
@fehner27 5 месяцев назад
agree, because as good as the playoff teams are, Georgia could beat all of them.
@StandStrong614
@StandStrong614 5 месяцев назад
​@@fehner27 But they didnt beat the one team that they played. That is kind of the whole point.
@coreyromberg
@coreyromberg 5 месяцев назад
Dan is exactly right about the transfer portal. Ridiculous that it opens before bowl season starts. Why even have any bowls other than the playoff if you’re going to devalue them so much to allow all these transfers to decimate rosters? Also coaching changes should be frozen until after bowl season
@Alex-tw8nb
@Alex-tw8nb 5 месяцев назад
And coaches?
@matthockin4282
@matthockin4282 5 месяцев назад
ESPN got what they deserved. You wanted the games to not count, well enjoy.
@Mark-zx2bq
@Mark-zx2bq 5 месяцев назад
Easy way to resolve this; move the date of the transfer portal, and work it into every NIL deal that any healthy player that opts out of their bowl game has to repay that money.
@Rookie_Mode2023
@Rookie_Mode2023 5 месяцев назад
I agree with both ideas in theory, but realistically, players will just opt out with the intention of entering the transfer portal, and players will just go to the schools that won't require payback of NIL from opting out.
@Mark-zx2bq
@Mark-zx2bq 5 месяцев назад
@@Rookie_Mode2023 not if it's instituted nationally
@deplorablelibertarian
@deplorablelibertarian 5 месяцев назад
If that's what messed this game up, what messed up the national championship when Georgia did the same thing? It was just an uneven fight, that's all. The best FSU team wasn't going to beat Georgia.
@Mark-zx2bq
@Mark-zx2bq 5 месяцев назад
@@deplorablelibertarian What are you even talking about?
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 5 месяцев назад
there's always ways around it. they'll just say "oh i wasn't healthy, sorry"
@shotzrangout
@shotzrangout 5 месяцев назад
They gotta change that opt out bs
@willmichael4033
@willmichael4033 5 месяцев назад
How? Forced labor?
@shotzrangout
@shotzrangout 5 месяцев назад
@@willmichael4033 no. It needs to be an off season timeline. Declaring for the draft and portal should be after the season
@demsareunamerican6800
@demsareunamerican6800 5 месяцев назад
​@willmichael4033 Forced Labor? It's an FN game, DMFK.
@willmichael4033
@willmichael4033 5 месяцев назад
@@shotzrangout how would that stop people sitting? They’d just sit before declaring…
@achoo9165
@achoo9165 5 месяцев назад
Will never happen. The opt out is a zero sum game. For every team that loses a player is a team that gains that player. So as loud as the losing programs will be that it must be stopped, you’ll have equally loud teams saying it must be allowed to continue
@MrLee4love
@MrLee4love 5 месяцев назад
Smoked💨🚬🔥
@matthewdershewitz6311
@matthewdershewitz6311 5 месяцев назад
Well picked, Dan
@chess-is-king
@chess-is-king 5 месяцев назад
This has nothing to do with transfer portal. Georgia had 18 players transfer out. Georgia lost its top two linebackers and had to start a freshman 3rd string linebacker. The second half Georgia played a 3rd string qb and still scored 21
@rogerhurt5569
@rogerhurt5569 5 месяцев назад
Florida State (13-1) failed to make the CFP cut despite winning the Atlantic Coast Conference title. Because of transfers, opt-outs and injuries, the Seminoles were without players who were responsible for 97% of their passing yards, 88% of their rushing yards and 84% of their receptions this season.
@chess-is-king
@chess-is-king 5 месяцев назад
@@rogerhurt5569 sounds like a terrible culture. And not the transfer portals fault
@SurfingWithTheMartian
@SurfingWithTheMartian 5 месяцев назад
CFB needs to recognize that it has to evolve into the prep league for the NFL which it really always has been anyways. It’s going through growing pains with the NIL and transfer portal and players opting out of bowl games but that’s life. Top 25 college football team players have been taken advantage for far too long. They need to get PAID. The vast majority never make the NFL and as CFB players for top 25 programs they make millions of dollars for their universities and they don’t get squat in return except for a “free education” which is peanuts in cost to the university. Meanwhile, the head coaches make $millions and the university rakes in big money. Let’s be real people.
@MattBuild4
@MattBuild4 5 месяцев назад
"CFB needs to recognize that it has to evolve into the prep league for the NFL which it really always has been anyways" Literally nobody in the NFL would agree with this statement.
@SurfingWithTheMartian
@SurfingWithTheMartian 5 месяцев назад
@@MattBuild4 Ok, so if literally no one in the NFL would agree with that then what other league or source would the NFL say they get their players from?
@MattBuild4
@MattBuild4 5 месяцев назад
@@SurfingWithTheMartian How exactly do you think the threat your making would work exactly? Cuz your basically saying that college football should withhold players from going to the NFL (which they have literally zero control over), until the NFL accepts to have the NFL draft in the middle of Week 14.
@SurfingWithTheMartian
@SurfingWithTheMartian 5 месяцев назад
@@MattBuild4I never made a threat. I’m just making observations based on new developments regarding NIL, transfer portal, opting out of bowl games, creation of the super conference etc.
@trentdontmiss
@trentdontmiss 5 месяцев назад
georgias offensive strategy was simple. just run the ball towards whoever’s replacing Jared Verse😂😂
@markminer7390
@markminer7390 5 месяцев назад
Current committee members have to go! The obvious bias, year after year, for Big 10 and SEC teams is disgusting. A "TEAM" goes undefeated, not a star quarterback. The snub of FSU, the portal before bowl games and the opt-outs made this game a sham. FSU and Oregon (they only lost to WA by a combined 6 points in two games) should have been in the CFP, but the committee has no shame or reservation about their bias. Terrible!
@superman26755
@superman26755 5 месяцев назад
The transfer portal and NIL should be completely player controlled which is what we have today. I know it isn't perfect, but the second you add a greedy middleman to the mix to "make rules," you all will be yearning for these days again.
@litedawg
@litedawg 5 месяцев назад
Lol
@drjaywhitlock
@drjaywhitlock 5 месяцев назад
@superman26755 Player controlled????? Are you freaking kidding me?? 18-20 year old kids in charge of how much money they should be making to play college football AND also be able to decide when they should be able to transfer when things don't go their way????? So Arch Manning, a 3rd string QB mind you, deserved the $2.8 million he made going 2/5 for 30 yards ALL YEAR??? You are an idiot! You must be a college football player
@dentatusdentatus1592
@dentatusdentatus1592 5 месяцев назад
But what about greedy student-athletes? 🤔🤔🤔
@BlueKidSwag
@BlueKidSwag 5 месяцев назад
@@dentatusdentatus1592they deserve to be as greedy as they want
@BlueKidSwag
@BlueKidSwag 5 месяцев назад
@@dentatusdentatus1592it’s not even greed it’s called supporting your family
@photo2george523
@photo2george523 5 месяцев назад
Great game Georgia….beat FSU’s 4th string players. ESPN destroyed FSU good players this year
@jamesedwards7946
@jamesedwards7946 5 месяцев назад
They wanted to break the SEC hold on the chip, so force the best team out, they embarrassed the process last year and this year Georgia is head and shoulders above other college teams, Ga will win the new format next year
@sheilak2835
@sheilak2835 5 месяцев назад
Thank you Dan, for your comments.
@vanjones1749
@vanjones1749 5 месяцев назад
FSU players left early to mostly protest not being in the CFP playoffs, to have 20 starters sit it out is what it was. Nothing wrong with NIL, just needs to be organized better for the future with the transfer portal as well. I think more control and organization will take place in the coming future. By the way I think the UW vs Tex game has the potential to be a bowl classic
@UltraSur76
@UltraSur76 5 месяцев назад
Btw....and get rid of the committee deciding which team gets in as it was a popularity contest
@pilarcabellojr2706
@pilarcabellojr2706 5 месяцев назад
Did Georgias third string hang 28 on them???
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
@@pilarcabellojr2706 all of Georgia's backups hung 21 on them and that was mostly against freshman who had never played a college game before who also just got curbstomped for 2 and a half quarters.
@surfer_guy942
@surfer_guy942 5 месяцев назад
College sports should be about getting an education. working towards a degree and representing your school as a student athlete. One and done, transfer portals, and early signings are nothing but stepping stones to professional sports.
@pfury67
@pfury67 5 месяцев назад
I don't even want the playoff system for college football either. The old bowl system worked fine. Everyone is gonna complain no matter what the format is.
@jonathangary5118
@jonathangary5118 5 месяцев назад
Why would a team play hard after being excluded from what they rightly earned.
@junioradult6219
@junioradult6219 5 месяцев назад
Fsu showed why they shouldnt have been picked. Plain and simple, and after all that whiney complaining. They showed that the correct choice was made
@mindset4Sucess
@mindset4Sucess 5 месяцев назад
Money ruined college sports. It’s not going back to what it use to be.
@HighwayToHellm
@HighwayToHellm 5 месяцев назад
Simple if you opt out or transfer before the official end of the season your scholarship should be revoked (not for injured players) and player should have to pick up the bill and consider it an early termination fee or leave or transfer after the final bowl game
@chriswise7978
@chriswise7978 5 месяцев назад
then the best players will just be listed as "injured"
@ThomasFromTN
@ThomasFromTN 5 месяцев назад
Not So Simple - The scholarship cannot encompass potential post-season play, because that would be unfair to players on teams that go to post-season, who would be penalized for not playing that extra game, where players on teams that don't play post-season, logically, therefore cannot be exposed to penalty for not playing in a game that doesn't happen. Ostensibly, you would be penalizing players for being good enough to position the team to be bowl-eligible. It absolutely could backfire differently, also - players would become LESS incentivized about team performance, so long as their individual stats position them favorably for an upcoming draft. They may begin making "business decisions" where not putting out a supreme effort, if that effort would mean the team becomes bowl eligible, where then SOMEONE LIKE YOU would then proceed to strip them of their scholarship. It's always what the players owe the school - not what the players could reasonably deserve. I don't understand how Americans, purportedly who favor the working class...always see fit to put the onus to make sacrifices on the working class, not the "executives" who run the industry. Not So Simple, Dude.
@carlgilmore-murry5789
@carlgilmore-murry5789 5 месяцев назад
Scholarships have to be renewed every single year so technically speaking this won’t solve nothing because another school can just give em a new scholarship after they transfer
@Bobbleheads56
@Bobbleheads56 5 месяцев назад
@@ThomasFromTNHere’s a simple answer: these dudes are getting paid millions to play a ball game. They can sack up and play an additional game and not cry about it.
@dirtbag_8132
@dirtbag_8132 5 месяцев назад
​@Bobbleheads56 Delete this comment! College isn't the NFL, and even most NFL players aren't getting paid millions! P.S.- Get a new talking point because yours sucks! P.S.S.- The scholarship argument is also not valid.
@krakenNation
@krakenNation 5 месяцев назад
I’m glad FSU Boycotted the game. Plus bowl season is ridiculous we need to eliminate every bowl except the 6 playoff bowl and major 6 bowls there at most should only be like 15 bowls tops. To have what 43 bowl games is crazy
@JustNope7
@JustNope7 5 месяцев назад
Orange Bowl is a top bowl game. It's in the CFP rotation. So you're glad they opted out of a game you said that should mean something?
@fredrickwinters8367
@fredrickwinters8367 5 месяцев назад
💯 agree with Dan
@robylifelaw4664
@robylifelaw4664 5 месяцев назад
People who were defending FSU as one of the best 4 teams were not watching College FB all year. Even with Jordan Travis, they were outstaged in every facet of the game. Ridiculous..
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 5 месяцев назад
Youre not bright are you??
@Bask3tChase
@Bask3tChase 5 месяцев назад
FSU’s future pros opted out, UGA’s didn’t. It’s a culture thing.
@PHXNKVHXLIC
@PHXNKVHXLIC 5 месяцев назад
Ohhh okay so those FSU players that quit on their team was worth 60 points
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 5 месяцев назад
@@PHXNKVHXLIC85
@svscountermeasurestraining3051
@svscountermeasurestraining3051 5 месяцев назад
Try as you may ESPN to spin this against FSU who is working on getting out of the ESPN contract with the ACC we all know ESPN is worried. These opts outs will potentially effect ESPN marketing dollars as they have the rights to these bowl games. If I am a 12 seed team in next years playoff and i have a good shot at being drafted you can bet I am not playing in a playoff. Why would I risk millions for a game that means nothing.
@texgarrett7158
@texgarrett7158 5 месяцев назад
Completely agree with D.O.
@stephenmorring3370
@stephenmorring3370 5 месяцев назад
Liberty vs Oregon would have been very different if the committee hadn't snubbed Liberty and their undefeated season. The Liberty players just felt disrespected and lost all motivation.
@mpup54
@mpup54 5 месяцев назад
which bowl would you have Liberty play in then? They got a decent team to play, where is the snub? Oregon lost to Washington twice, thats pretty much it, and Washington may be the best team in the country.
@kdog2646
@kdog2646 5 месяцев назад
Liberty didn't play any power five teams😂 and both Georgia and Michigan had basically the same strength of schedule as FSU.
@FaceFamous
@FaceFamous 5 месяцев назад
Liberty would of got beat by anyone in there quickly! Liberty played Oregon and got stomped. Theyre not as good as any power 5 school. Theyre a JV team
@AwoL205
@AwoL205 5 месяцев назад
With jordan travis and their whole team playing and healthy, georgia still wins 49-17 or worse
@HTHAMMACK1
@HTHAMMACK1 5 месяцев назад
Georgia would likely win, but I'd say by perhaps 21 points.
@Mendoza1414
@Mendoza1414 5 месяцев назад
@@HTHAMMACK1 64-7 Georgia wins even if all of the Florida state team was there
@nwilliams6768
@nwilliams6768 5 месяцев назад
Both sound silly
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 5 месяцев назад
Are you that stupid!? Fsu wins easy
@thydevdom
@thydevdom 5 месяцев назад
The entire current system with the portal is a mess. Portal should not open until right before the spring. Also, the amount of players who opt out due to the bowl game not being "big enough" is abysmal.
@samfisher320
@samfisher320 5 месяцев назад
UGA could have scored 100 if they wanted to.
@FastlifeTrav
@FastlifeTrav 5 месяцев назад
Go Noles 🔥🔥🔥
@imSupreez
@imSupreez 5 месяцев назад
Trash team with trash mindset 🔥🔥🔥
@sebfettel
@sebfettel 5 месяцев назад
Go Dawgs 🔥
@marquisbutler2780
@marquisbutler2780 5 месяцев назад
@@imSupreezNo they were snubbed and the ACC committee didn’t help them either. The unofficially forfeited that game
@krakenNation
@krakenNation 5 месяцев назад
I wish they would have 10 minutes before the game said the whole team is not playing or refusing their Orange Bowl invitation to screw the NCAA
@FastlifeTrav
@FastlifeTrav 5 месяцев назад
@@sebfettel dawgs choked on history missing a chance 3 -peat and celebrating a win like they won it all, that’s classless. Uga is Alabama Jr.
@HumbleJames2177
@HumbleJames2177 5 месяцев назад
When espn and the committee admitting fsu did not belong there cause of their qb hurt it wasn’t a good look , cause you basically Telling a team that their games don’t matter cause of one player then what’s the point of playing the game. Then you wonder why a lot of fsu players option out the bowl game is meaningless especially when you punish a team over something they can’t control. If bama or Georgia had their qb out and undefeated they still be in the playoffs . It was straight bias and yall will get more of that for snubbing teams out . It’s no longer a TEAM SPORT they need get rid of the criteria of players being injured take in affect cause that unfair to the players that still playing and still winning games. Little league don’t even do that not even the pros but college football do that and here is the result of it.
@shanewoods1980
@shanewoods1980 5 месяцев назад
I agree with you! I think they should’ve been very honest and told them that their schedule and conference was as weak as a wet paper towel. They should’ve been honest and not found the QB excuse. FSU just showed the country what they’ll be remembered and known for, for years to come.
@MattBuild4
@MattBuild4 5 месяцев назад
What I dont understand though is why this is surprising, when this has been an issue in college football for decades...... Yall act like your the first team for this to ever happen to. Your not...... youre the 24th team in 25 years. And the fact that you use the p5 vs g5 argument completely contradicts your entire compliant to begin with. You cant complain about fairness and then in the same breath say that there are undefined levels that seperate competition. Not to mention the fact I can pull 5 G5 undefeated teams that had astronomically superior resumes than 2023 FSU. FFS 08 Utah beat 5 Top 25 teams including 2 in the Top 7, 3 from different P5 conferences and was one of only two undefeated teams in their year. Statistically 08 Utah isnt even in the top 4 G5 teams of the last 20 years.
@sparkyman8249
@sparkyman8249 5 месяцев назад
@@shanewoods1980 Na, not to me. They (FSU) will be remembered for being screwed by the CFP as an undefeated team kept out of the championship playoff. If FSU would have been in the playoffs and got hosed that is another story but that didn't happen did it?
@shanewoods1980
@shanewoods1980 5 месяцев назад
@@MattBuild4 I’ve said this over and over. It’s been done before. But you know someone has to play the victim in order to get recognition
@MattBuild4
@MattBuild4 5 месяцев назад
@@shanewoods1980 "But you know someone has to play the victim in order to get recognition" For FSU, sure but their point is legitimate. However, this argument falls flat when you consider the 2009-2012 G5 lawsuits. This was a nuclear approach taken by multiple conferences because they believed there was no other option, and its difficult to argue against them. In 2008 the MWC and WAC conference champions went undefeated and both were snubbed. This wasnt the first time. It previously occured to these conferences in 2002, 2004 (2 teams), 2006, and 2007. But even at that point instead of just crying about, they did something about it. The MWC submitted an 8-team playoff to the NCAA and all conferences for acceptance, and it didnt even significantly favor the G5 in format. All Power conferences rejected it nonetheless. So what do you do, when youve been brutally snubbed 5 times in the last 7 years and you tried to inspire more competition but it was rejected? Your left with the only option left - sue the f&ck out of the league. Which is what happened. And it didnt get any easier. 2008-2011 was the golden era of the G5. This era saw some absolutely MONSTER TEAMS. In 2009 and 2010 the MWC and WAC champions went a combined 51-1; in 09 ranked #1, #4 in offense and #1 and #8 in defense, #1, #2 in MOV; in 10 ranked #2, #4 in offense, #1, #2 in defense and #1, #2 in MOV. The teams combined for 16 Top 25 wins including wins over the ACC Champ x2, PAC Champ and B10 Champ - in fact they went 11-0 vs the P5 by a combined 458-169. When you have a decade of consistent snubbing and enough evidence to disprove any argument on the planet, its not about playing the victim card anymore. Theres undeniable evidence that the league is corrupt af, which is in fact why the US Senate took the case federally and DOJ sued the league for anti-trust behavior. The CFP is the only reason these lawsuits stopped, but clearly the CFP didnt actually resolve any of these issues.
@luckylouie2
@luckylouie2 5 месяцев назад
If I said that, "I think the Fl State players knew this and Boycotted the bowl game due to them getting snubbed." Would that be crazy?
@jamessaibot5681
@jamessaibot5681 5 месяцев назад
That would be pathetic. Winning programs don't act like passive aggressive soccer moms.
@Dixon_Cider407
@Dixon_Cider407 5 месяцев назад
That would make FSU a weak program. UGA had more of an argument to be in the top 4 yet they came to play regardless. FSU had to prove they deserved to be there and tucked their tails instead
@luckylouie2
@luckylouie2 5 месяцев назад
I can see that for sure, and I agree that the teams that are in it this year deserve it. Kinda sucks for ACC. Shows how weak they were this season @@Dixon_Cider407
@Himothy_da1st
@Himothy_da1st 5 месяцев назад
​@Dixon_Cider407 that's a lie
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 5 месяцев назад
@@Dixon_Cider407clown comment
@polofrost5078
@polofrost5078 5 месяцев назад
Orlovsky doesn’t miss with his predictions and analysis
@scottsingleton2951
@scottsingleton2951 5 месяцев назад
Just think about how much worse it would've looked if it occurred in the Rose Bowl
@rodrickcrestwell2997
@rodrickcrestwell2997 5 месяцев назад
FSU did the right thing
@oaklandtraphouse
@oaklandtraphouse 5 месяцев назад
Just wait till you watch Alabama dominate the play offs Georgia should have been in the play off
@Mark-zx2bq
@Mark-zx2bq 5 месяцев назад
🤣
@krakenNation
@krakenNation 5 месяцев назад
Michigan will dominate. Alabama struggled all season they haven’t seen a defense like Michigan but keep dreaming
@supersanic1254
@supersanic1254 5 месяцев назад
​@@krakenNationLol, Michigan hasn't seen an offense or defense like Bama's all season. Hard to say if Michigan's defense is legit or not, as the best ranked offense they played all year was ranked #37. Meanwhile, Michigan won't even be the best team Bama played this year.
@ETHER3AL2205
@ETHER3AL2205 5 месяцев назад
@@supersanic1254 bro what bamas defense is nothing special, they have been gashed multiples times throughout the year by mid offenses. Michigans has faced to elite defenses in penn st and Ohio st, both better then bamas this yr
@supersanic1254
@supersanic1254 5 месяцев назад
​@@ETHER3AL2205 Yeah, those offenses are not elite in the slightest. Both those teams lost their bowl games to SEC teams, one of which Bama beat.
@prmath
@prmath 5 месяцев назад
and TCU last year? My take on this is…….Ga is a really good team
@ammon80954
@ammon80954 5 месяцев назад
Both these people have very smart and good points
@alboesenberg3594
@alboesenberg3594 5 месяцев назад
Eliminate the portal system and NFL transfer possibilities until after the Natty for all of CFB.
@williambrightman1375
@williambrightman1375 5 месяцев назад
Transfer Portal NEEDS to be after the National Title Game and Go back to February signing period.
@Klako-ls6yt
@Klako-ls6yt 5 месяцев назад
@@williambrightman1375Academic calendars don’t care for football. Players need to be able to enroll at their new schools and register for classes before the spring semester starts. That’s why the transfer window is where it is.
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