Taking a Bom to Old Tech Cockpit Avionics - InTheHangar Ep 125

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In spite of the stifling FAA approval process that results in killing innovation, Levil has created a new AHRS device, called the BOM, that gives your Experimental an inexpensive glass cockpit or a backup for certificated airplanes. They also have a full fledge inside the airplane AHRS called the iLevil 3AW.
Dan and Christy bring on Ricardo Leon and Ananda Leo from the small family run business that is putting a scare into Garmin, Aspen and Dynon. More info on them: levilaviation.com/
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@levilaviation 3 года назад

Thanks for the invite! We had so much fun! We can't wait for Dan and Christy to test our technology ✈️

@russellsmith3825 3 года назад

As I understand the BOM is currently ADSB IN only, any plans on also doing ADSB OUT, this would be an excellent option for vintage aircraft without electrical systems, like an original Cub etc.

@I-0-0-I 3 года назад

This is truly next level tech!

@challenger2ultralightadventure 3 года назад

Once again, the experimental aviation world is leading the innovations of flying. I can fully understand the reasoning behind certifying equipment that is used in an airplane that may carry for pay passengers. But I also believe that their is clearly a need to fast track innovations into the certified aircraft world, when clearly the benefits are there. Cheers from Winnipeg.

@malcolmellis9654 3 года назад

lmao..I just came off Twitter..read this comment n went to RT it...🥲

@malcolmellis9654 3 года назад

probably the best product promo I've ever seen...having said that these things will sell themselves ...what an amazing bit of kit...

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Thanks Malcolm!

@mwscheetz 3 года назад

Another advantage of the BOM is that you can transfer the device between all of your aircraft. Buy one BOM and several mounts. I read that you can preset your n-numbers into your tablet for the ADS-B and easily switch aircraft.

@BraapZ 3 года назад

WOW! 😳🔥❤️👍😎 Levil has found its blue ocean, cutting edge, and LOTS of future growth potential! Thank you Dan and Christy for this interview.

@jrholand 3 года назад

seeing you guys tongue tied when you are floored by a great product was the best!

@HypePerformanceGroup 3 года назад

This was such a great episode! Dan and Christy were great hosts and Ricardo and Ananada did a great job explaining all the benefits of their products.

@johnreed8872 3 года назад

What a great , foward thinking company! Thanks for sharing and explaining Dan and Christy!

@tarmacpounder785 3 года назад

This is such an amazing product! It deserves to succeed.

@GrummanTiger1 3 года назад

Love my BOM! In my opinion, it's the perfect back-up system - completely independent power and static/pitot. I used to fly with a Sentry as my back-up but that can only give GPS-derived groundspeed, not IAS which is what you really want. BOM delivers.

@johnjasinski6145 3 года назад

looking forward to using this in my Tomahawk when I get it back in the air this summer.

@scottmacdougall2843 3 года назад

I was wondering about these products. Glad you brought them on the show!

@DeltaLima2 3 года назад

Interesting stuff, especially for the experimental world! Now I have to build a plane to install all this great technology! 🤔

@JoseRivera-lt2cc 3 года назад

Very much impressed with both presenters. The information & system functionality demonstrated definitely prompts attention to incorporate the equipment as safety redundancy for certified aircraft, especially legacy era. We’ll done!

@buckshot704 3 года назад

Karl from Fly With The Guys did a product review of this several days ago. His recommendation was an external power switch, and a way to see how much power its battery held.

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Yeah Carl and I need to do better coordination!!

@timduncan8450 Год назад

The company now says they have external switch on the BOM

@AMoose454 3 года назад

Seen the ad for this on Facebook. Nice to see the review

@danielruff4632 3 года назад

Amazing products! Can’t wait to hear your reviews!

@laidbacksodak 3 года назад

Dan & Christy, incredible interview. The technology is interesting but I am sure the FAA will drag their feet.

@jerrymiller276 3 года назад

But this is revolutionary. You don't need FAA approval to put one on your plane and bring it into the current decade of the 21st century. How 'bout that? Screw them foot draggers.

@davidbridegan2302 3 года назад

@@jerrymiller276 As long as you don’t try to use it as a primary ADSB on certified planes.

@jerrymiller276 3 года назад

@@davidbridegan2302 Correct.

@jamesbegley2700 3 года назад

Awesome product, Super Price point, Exciting Future. Great show Dan and Cristy.

@MrGritteeth 3 года назад

A must have product. Look forward to your “test” results in future videos.

@padraigmurphy6442 3 года назад

An adsb out would be a fantastic addition to the bom for the next version

@alanswanson1952 3 года назад

I agree, and with the radar altimeter

@davemcginn8372 2 года назад

Man! This is great stuff! I am toying with building experimental and this might push me across that line! It takes the "mental" out of the instrument part of the project! Just need transponder/ADS-B out and at least one radio!

@christinewunder1672 3 года назад

Very informative, thanks for keeping me updated on new technology!

@kevincollins8014 3 года назад

What a very professional explanation and presentation of this product. I have actually seen one in use on a Kitfox but looking forward to your review. Thanks as always for bringing us content.

@heymeneses 3 года назад

Fantastic interview! So much potential inside one device 👏🏼

@JonMulveyGuitar 3 года назад

Amazing review! I have been interested in this as a backup since it came out. And now the other concepts they discussed are very compelling. This product might be a game changer. Forget those $50.000 dollar panels

@timduncan8450 Год назад

I’m now thinking a $6k panel budget vs a $60k before. I am also thinking how slick it would be not to have a vacuum pump. Has anyone got a good solid state AHRS solution?

@kalebunruh6893 3 года назад

So glad I found this channel and subscribed! Such a great way to learn new information!!👌👌

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Welcome!!

@jimbuck795 3 года назад

Great products! Now all I need is an airplane to put them in.

@Mrsournotes 3 года назад

😀👍🏽

@bobswan6196 3 года назад

Meanwhile, will it work on my bike?

@daviddefelice6997 3 года назад

This is one of your best shows - EVER !! I'm going to Sun N No Fun - mask and all :-(( just to see this product.

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Tell us what you think!

@SmittySmithsonite 3 года назад

That thing is pretty slick! Actually both units are, but that BOM unit is pretty impressive. I've been seeing ads for it for a while now, but never looked into what it actually did. What a game-changer! Great interview!

@TakingOff 3 года назад

I can’t wait to get it on Lola!

@SmittySmithsonite 3 года назад

@@TakingOff - I bet! You’re going to love it, something tells me. 😊

@mikeray760 3 года назад

Great show capt pants the bomb. Thanks as always. HAVE A BLESSED EASTER TO ALL.

@jwschrag 3 года назад

I purchased a BOM for use on my J3 Cub. While the potential seemed really amazing, I had connectivity issues between the BOM and my iPad and phone. Customer service at Levil was great. They replaced the chip in my BOM and returned it but it still had connectivity issues, sometimes not connecting until several miles into the flight, other times not at all. I sent the unit back in and they replaced with another. I continued to have connectivity issues with it so I sold it and went with ForeFlight and a Stratus. No regrets since. I love the concept, but with such limited functionality it was more of a nuisance than a safety enhancement.☹️

@jeffreymitchell2712 3 года назад

A true review. Awesome and look forward to your video and opinion.

@petertarantelli 3 года назад

Exciting stuff!

@gtr1952 3 года назад

That is just awesome! I assume it was thoroughly tested, and I would have liked to hear more about their testing/vetting process. Maybe this also could encourage companies like Garmin etc. to offer more cost effective products to the experimental market. Anything to make things safer is a huge plus!! 8) JMHO --gary

@eveningecho5334 3 года назад

Wow, great info guys

@bobwilson758 2 года назад

Wow - great invention ! Congratulations !

@christianjforbes Месяц назад

For an LSA application, the bomb looks mighty intriguing. Analog AS and ALT plus BOM ticks dang near all the boxes Figure out Transponder and ADSB out to complete the integration

@paratyshow 3 года назад

Cool tech, the future possibilities will change GA with the advances and incredible prices.

@gregorydamms608 Год назад

Looking forward to complete review.

@carloscruz7317 3 года назад

You guys really gotta get Austin Meyer on your show.

@doncatchpole7370 2 года назад

Wow, Great Stuff

@jb6027 2 года назад

AMAZING!!!

@FlipFlopPilot 3 года назад

I'm installing the 3AW into an E-LSA right now and it's connected to a panel mount iPad Pro 9.7 in a Guardian Avionics mount. Looks like a true glass panel aircraft. The owner is also a iFly GPS user and having both displays on the iPad is nothing short of amazing. Great product. looking forward to your review of both products.

@kylevon 3 года назад

The bom is awesome especailly having all info on my tablet i use it as my gps and i noticed that im paying attention to the angle of attack as well now.. Well worth the money and i have it mounted so i can easily take on and off as soon as im done flying. The only thing i wish it had is an outside indications so you know its on and or off. There is a light but on the inside where you put the sd card. Great product

@lmartinez3633 3 года назад

Those products are awesome...

@norcalp210driver9 3 года назад

Looking forward to the BOM review on Lola. Considering one for my P210 for copilot instrumentation on an iPad.

@blockvfive1196 3 года назад

Paint every military bomb as a minecraft creeper

@GarethWilliamsWynn 3 года назад

Ananada is still the prettiest Electronics Engineer out there. Great products and fabulous show. Thanks Dan & Christy!

@wareairaviationservicesllc4933 3 года назад

I wanted to know more about how the engine data gets displayed

@Aerospace_Education 3 года назад

ADSB without worrying about battery is a great addition to the airplane. To be honest I would want like 3 more dummy shells just so the airplane looks like it's armed and ready for battle!

@TakingOff 3 года назад

I agree!

@waukeshapilot6462 3 года назад

This was good

@ianmooney213 3 года назад

Add a simple camera and continual recording of video and data and BOM becomes a simple Flight Data Recorder

@walterweigert9840 3 года назад

Hi my friends. AMAZING THECNOLOGY! Gadgets, in time, are getting more and more precize and reliable while getting smaller and smaller. It would have been interesting if you asked them about their background, I.E where are they from and what and where have they studied, how did they come up whith these devices; long story short: Who are they? May be in the next interview when both of you have installed your devices in "Lola" and "Wong Warrior" and make a review of them. As always, cheers from NE patagonia, Argentina. Please keep your excelent work coming up!

@peteranderson037 3 года назад

iFly also has synthetic vision as part of their app if the ADS-B In source broadcasts AHRS data, such as the Levil BOM.

@AshtonCoolman 3 года назад

The BOM would be really cool on a glider as well. These products are truly game changing. Get it working with Xavion!

@h2otek312 3 года назад

Thought BOM stood for bored old man..... Ok, this is even better!

@h2otek312 3 года назад

@@ackack612 Humorless, this morning, are we? Go have another cup of coffee!

@johnreed8872 3 года назад

@@ackack612 lighten up brother , no humor no love!

@asiasmells71 3 года назад

Great stuff... Would only consider the A/P if it has a wired connection in the event of a runaway I would want nice old-fashion switch to shut it off with

@jerrymiller276 3 года назад

Smart BOM.

@Paiadakine Год назад

This is cool.

@bobisonline 3 года назад

As the Brits would say, "Brilliant! Fooking brilliant!"

@erinchillmusic8930 2 года назад

I understand that AOA is a pressure differential system designed to work at close to stall speeds but I would like to get a PIREP on whether it actually works for accelerated stalls at higher speeds and cleaned up configuration.

@davidjfoster2133 3 года назад

Looking forward to the review. I've been checking these out and am really interested.

@FastSloW-qt8xf 2 года назад

That thing is brilliant. Throw it on a aerolite with an iPad and you have everything you could want

@carloscruz7317 3 года назад

This incorporated with xavion.... game changer!!!

@baseballlife5884 3 года назад

I’ve been trying to tell people about how incredible Xavion is and they laugh and say they don’t have time for video games. SMH

@carloscruz7317 3 года назад

@@baseballlife5884 I feel the same way xavion is absolutely amazing. I mean hello wake turbulence. Austin Meyer is tremendously underestimated he is a damn genius.

@baseballlife5884 3 года назад

@@carloscruz7317 lol he is a genius. How that app isn’t one of the most used apps in aviation is beyond me.

@stuartessex4535 3 года назад

I guessed the price correctly, do I win one!🤣🤣 Not sure about the name?? But WOH what an amazing bit of kit!!

@stevenhorney7735 3 года назад

Very cool! I wonder though if there would be issues trying to manipulate the IPad in turbulence?

@huckleberry8079 2 года назад

There an issue manipulating anything in turbulence

@banmanfrank 3 года назад

Hi guys Music volume is a little nuts. Cool shows saw this item couple years ago and got me excited for 1 day building an airplane in the experimental category

@utah20gflyer76 3 года назад

The Uavionix AV20 has angle of attack and is under 1k so that is a potential option, although I've heard of some issues with Uavionix. The AV20 also has many other functions. Thought I would throw that out there.

@Roucasson 3 года назад

Had you released this video one day earlier, instead of April 2nd, nobody would have thought this thing was for real...

@scottmiller4711 3 года назад

The BOM can be installed by the pilot. I wonder if the AW needs to be installed by a mech. Since it needs to tap into the Pitot/static system?

@vk4jrc 2 года назад

App for iPad has no demo mode IF BOM hardware is not present? Running speed for BOM needs 60 knots? If so it too low for many home built aircraft, many having stall speeds of around 30 knots. Out of country support needed for repairs/warranty etc, EG Australia and others? Looks like a great product and guessing there may be future firmware updates?

@kalebrowland626 3 года назад

How does the bom do in cold weather. Like -30 degrees Fahrenheit for weeks at a time? If it does well in temps like that it will be awesome for people like me who fly in the Arctic.

@tdnupe2002 3 года назад

That just shows how cheap things can be, but of course they have to throw "certified" out there to make instruments overpriced. If it works, it works; certified or not.

@bobwilson758 2 года назад

Dang , you always want a back - up.

@timduncan8450 Год назад

How does the BOM turbine handle icing conditions? Can I use this system for IFR? Can one use this to get IFR ratings if the trainer plane has an old certified IFR six-pack and VORTAC capability? 😢want to learn GPS approaches as well as old school?

@williambutler2177 3 года назад

Thanks for the great intro to some neat new products! Also before I run off and buy another one of the products you've recommended without letting you get credit, is there a Coupon code or similar for iFly GPS?

@TakingOff 3 года назад

The show is sponsored by iFly but we don’t have a discount code.

@williambutler2177 3 года назад

@@TakingOff Well it's a great product from what I can tell, so I'm going to give it a shot. Hope they keep up with the sponsorship.

@LimeyTX 3 года назад

This looks terrific. But I read that people often have problems with their iPads overheating and shutting down. Clearly that would be a bummer. Is there a way to ensure the iPad doesn't shut down or lose power?

@russellsmith3825 3 года назад

I've seen iPad mounts that have a fan behind to keep them cool. With the advances in tech, I bet there is a flexible solar film that could be attached to the roof that could charge a dedicated instrument battery

@jimmiemiles2901 2 года назад

Now I’m mad I didn’t stop and talk to them at Oshkosh 🤬🤬🤬🤬

@PuppyDogPilot 3 года назад

Ananda is the bomb.

@DK-gl6ro 3 года назад

Can this be put onto multiple iPads at the same time? Basically you could have two full size iPads mounted in view to give a full glass cockpit experience.

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Interesting. I’ll find out.

@aggibson74 3 года назад

Do they have a version of the BOM that is less "flashy". Or can it be painted to match the aircraft?

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Great question. Let me see if I can find an answer.

@robertklump9993 3 года назад

A little confused on the ADSB portion. Is it giving only adsb in information to your iPad? Is there a conflict with ATC on dual ADSB out signals or does it not have ADSB out. Perhaps I’m over complicating this and perhaps it is only giving you ADSB in info when you are on the Bom app only. Specifically, I like most folks already have ADSB through one of the new transponders. I happen to go with the panel mount Stratus ESG in and out, in my Bellanca. What are the implications of having another ADSB through the BOM. Sorry, I’m a little slow on this one. Thanks.

@russellsmith3825 3 года назад

I believe it's currently ADSB IN only at this time. Maybe they'll make a second unit that has ADSB OUT

@glennsnider8840 2 года назад

Any idea of the life of the bom and serviceability and or certification over time?

@TakingOff 2 года назад

Good question. I’ll find out.

@seanmarshall7608 3 года назад

I’m thinking the unit they gave to Christie won’t be permitted in the warrior as it requires tying into the pitot static system

@TakingOff 3 года назад

It can be installed, just can’t use it as primary.

@nickinportland 2 года назад

The question everyone is asking, can I put it on my car

@28Murf 3 года назад

Any test data yet on function and reliability.

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Not yet. Still trying to get my overhauled engine up.

@Anonymous99997 3 года назад

I don’t want to go through tsa with one of those. 😂

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Could be interesting.

@huckleberry8079 2 года назад

Does you app work with android yet?

@emrebaskocak 3 года назад

This looks like an incredible product, so many features built in such a compact design, but it raises one question for me. What if God forbid the company goes under and ceases to exist? Will all the hardware be obsolete with no software updates for newer iOS/Android versions? Hopefully that never happens

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Well, thats always going to be the worry with anybody that's not a Boeing or a Garmin. It's the age-old argument of the large companies not caring for the little guy/poor service/lack of innovation vs the up and coming, hungry, innovative, responsive company. And many times, those up and coming hungry ones are either turned into the large, could care less big dogs (like Foreflight did when Boeing gobbled them up) or they can fade away. But Levil looks legit and they have their whole CNC family business anyway, so I think they're pretty solid.

@kevincloinger3328 3 года назад

Where does Peter straw get one

@jonathanchristman8488 3 года назад

Are Ananda and Ricardo pilots too?

@skytoydotcom 3 года назад

I buy the BOM right now if it had ADS-B out.

@joshcox8785 3 года назад

Surprised you didn't clarify that it's ADSB In only. Saying "it does ADS-B" is misleading

@mytubehkjt 3 года назад

If only NORSEE was a thing outside the US.

@bradrobinhancock8491 Год назад

No Android support?

@bobwilson758 2 года назад

I would love to try this out in the 150 j safety first , system may save your ass - ? Huh ?

@mikemorgan8792 3 года назад

Will the BOM work on a Helicopter 🚁?

@TakingOff 3 года назад

Good question, let me find out.

@mikemorgan8792 3 года назад

@@TakingOff Thank you for your reply, this would be a great cost reduction on experimental Helicopters as well, it would fit right next to the pedo tube under the nose