We've been informed that a 3060 isn't a 2060. Hmm. Odd! It's hard to tell them apart when they all look like this: OUT OF STOCK AUTO NOTIFY Watch our NVIDIA RTX 3060 review here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3C-RoDtqdJ8.html Our stuff is ACTUALLY in stock: Grab a GN Toolkit on the store for GPU tear-down & maintenance (in stock & shipping now, including signed versions) store.gamersnexus.net/products/gamersnexus-tear-down-toolkit Grab a GN Wireframe Mouse Mat for a desk-sized, high-quality mousing surface (in stock & shipping now): store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-wireframe-mouse-mat
is there a plan to update the gpu tear down mat..ive been waiting on it to come back in stock. an antistatic mat that size 32x16 inches perfect for my desk.
what a waste of pcb.....they could have packed this gpu on a soc and users could have slapped it on a pcie slot as if it was a slightly bigger m.2 adaptor....this should have been a 3050 tops not a 3060
RTX 3000 series so advanced that they coated the whole GPU with Quantum Mechanics that enables the whole GPU to undergo quantum superpositioning. SCIENCE
fun fact every captcha is used to TRAIN AI thats why over the years they've become more and more complex, you can actually get a chrome plugin that solves them for you using a neural network ai which is hilarious making a computer get past the "i'm not a robot" prompt.
Why is Steve staring at an empty mod mat for 15 mins? ??? PS, But 3090, use it to train AI at picking out traffic lights, then buy 3070, 3060, etc... then use them to train AI at getting a time machine... infinite scalpers profit!!!
I've installed a PCIe 3.0 Etch-A-Sketch to replace my aging video card today. Refresh rate is great at 2 shakes per second and so far miners haven't hoovered those up yet. Looking forward to the PCIe 4.0 version that has a 4 shake per second refresh rate.
Like those "my other car is a ..." Close up of pc internals showing loading screen on an etch a sketch right where gpu should be then underneath "My other gpu is an rtx3090"
I’m glad reviewers are honest that 99% of their audience has no chance in actually getting these cards. At this point these reviews and tear downs are a curiosity rather than purchasing advice.
The teardowns for most people have always been more of a curiosity for people than a helpful tool for tearing down your own gpu. It's nice to see the cooling setup and the component choices but it probably won't be use by 75% of even GNs audience That said in person purchasing has a higher chance if success for gpu launches or deliveries than online with how many bots have been used to nav GPUs. If you're in need of a new gpu now your best bet is to ask employees at a store that sells them when they are getting more in and if you're able to pick it up when it's in. I would hope that most people in the audience aren't actively building a computer every time that a new gpu or cpu launches and instead upgrading as needed, or if they are that the parts are being used until they're no longer capable of keeping up 10 years or more later. E-waste is a serious issue.
Eventually you'll be able to get one and at that timez this review will become relevent ... be patient friends be patient we shall get our GPUs eventually
You're not going to be satisfied by any video; you're just going to claim its fake. The only way it would be irrefutable is if you had it in your hand and in your own PC and oh... I see.
I sold my old rx470 for $120, I was about to edit the price because I think it's too high and I can't because it's already sold, in 10min, it's 4 years old gpu for god sake
@@LittleMan2225 Aqui no br não duvido nada voltarem a vender as placas com 512mb de vídeo. Tive muita sorte em pegar minha 3070 em janeiro quando o preço caiu pro mesmo preço de lançamento, se não tava sem pc ate agr kkkk
7:05 I am an SMT Machine Operator, and I not only place these parts, but also make sure that the machines place the parts correctly. The marker on the BGA is emphesising the orientation mark (the arrow in the upper right hand corner corner) We use these markings to ensure that the chip is in the correct orientation on the PCB. The markings can be found on many BGAs and chip components. You can also see the equivelent marks for the memory IC's to the right of the BGA (the white dot on the upper right of the chips) 13:10 That appears to be an internally used QR code. We use these to not only keep track of inventory movement throughout various facilities, but also to link multiple parts together under one serial number. The seperate parts of the card are linked together ie X board with serial 123456 is part of assembly 50. Heatsink type 1jA17 goes with X board type A1, serial no 000001 to 999999. Each and every component, from the small caps and resisters, to the PCB and fans are all checked and verified using these numbers, whether it's a one off prototype, or an RMA on a product like a graphics card.
Normally I just skip the ad read in the beginning. But this time I took note of the fact that the boards used for holding the chip is an interesting stack up. That the die sits on a smaller PCB in the middle isn't that interesting. But rather the fact that the larger board is consisting of two layers. I am going to guess that Intel has taken this approach for better yield for these boards. Since these would require fairly minute features to be accurately manufactured. And double sided boards are far easier to make compared to 4 layer ones. But it also makes we wonder, could even the smaller board in the center be a stack up of boards as well? Though, there seems to also be a thin layer of PCB laminate that extends out a bit around the smaller board, but not fully covering the whole base board. This could just be a form of shim for either handling the height difference between the chip and the IHS. But I somehow more suspect it to be an aid to ensure that the soldered interface between the boards doesn't get squeezed to death and risk shorting due to mounting pressure. After all, there seems to be another similar shim around the die itself. And yup, this comment so far contains as much 3060 content as there is 3060's available for close to MSRP. Though, I have long been wondering, why doesn't board partners skip having the shunt resistors as a component? One can fairly easily make a 5mOhm shunt resistor as a cleverly made trace on the PCB without it needing much space at all. And getting proper sensing isn't hard either. And most PCBs have copper thickness tolerances in the few % region, similar to a 5mOhm shunt. In short, implementing the shunt on the PCB directly can save in on the bill of materials cost, and also on pick and place assembly time, not to mention freeing up a feeder on the machine and the logistics of stocking the shunt. Even if the time and costs savings are fairly tiny here. (Development costs for such a shunt quickly gets eaten up by just a few hundred units.)
I know there's been pressure against videos like this from disaffected community members that can't find parts, but I'll say it sure was nice to go back and rewatch this after finally being able to purchase my new 3060 XC Gaming this week. Spent about 9 weeks on the EVGA waitlist, but it paid off and this teardown will be useful to reference again if needed in the future. Keep doing what you guys are doing!
Got mine from nzxt in my first pre-built paid about $400 for the gpu. Very happy with it.. I was wondering what was msrp or how much you got it from Evga
@@marksantiago9832 Well just want to start by clarifying that I got the XC Gaming with the metal backplate, which is the higher end version of the one in this tear-down. That said, I got it for $389.99 + tax & shipping. Since I was impatient and opted for fast shipping, I paid a bit more than I had to for a grand total of around $450.
I really like these teardown videos. It's a good 'pressure' on the manufacturers to keep them pulled back on cutting too many corners in production, knowing the whole internet can see it right from launch date. Overall a decent product, given it's a budget class.
Good to see some coverage for removal of the shroud, that info is a bit harder to find than it should be, particularly whether or not shrouds can be removed without removing the heatsink, which can be very useful for planning SFF builds.
I would assume the main reason only those two inner inductors have thermal pads is because they are right under the hub of the fan, which would be an airflow deadspot. While the outer ones are getting unobstructed airflow.
I easily bought a 3060 today. My local store had stock of 9 cards. By end of the day, they still had stock of 4 cards. I placed an order, drove over to the store, picked it up, drove home, installed it. AUD$829, which appears to be quite decent compared to worldwide prices.
I never would have guessed that PC building and going to movie theaters would both be things that die within our generation. I look forward to telling my kids stories of how we built PC's from widely available components available at brick and mortar stores, and how Friday nights we could watch motion pictures on a big screen with popcorn...
@@cristobalgonzalez2888 Except late 11:30PM showings and launch MSRP GPUs are very much dead, and now just unicorns. Last call for most movie showings is now 8pm, and when buying a GPU, you can't be picky about AIB brand or version, you get what's available at markup - if you're even that lucky.
Good riddance to theaters. The tickets were overpriced, the food was lousy, the seats and floors were dirty/sticky, and there was always at least one loser in the theater who wouldn't shut up and let everyone else enjoy the movie.
This video had more corpses going down than minutes. Steve and team killed it with the amount of reality checks, puns and facts about the industry as a whole. Nobody was spared, and that’s why these guys are genius and deserve a ton of credit.
What's impressive is that this card is identical in performance with the GTX 1080ti and it can run on such a small cooler. It has only two heat pipes and the whole thing screams "cheap", yet it's enough to run the card at decent temps. I have a Zotac 1080ti Mini which has five heat pipes and without undervolting, it runs at 84°C.
Wanted a 3080, but managed to snag one of these instead. These days, a good GPU is one that's in stock. Performance good enough for me until 50 series, then I'll grab a 5080. Assuming they'll be in stock by then.
"people are frustrated with video card content" Thanks for doing your job Steve its been a shit year and people are flippant idiots, thanks for doing your job in the face of it all.
Steve must be hallucinating or something, why is he spinning screwdrivers in the air and pointing at his hands while talking about something called an RTX 3060 or something?
Excellent video. Steve you have translated the frustration we are all feeling very well. I smiled while looking at more hardware we cannot get for the first time ever.
Love that Micro Center (Houston) does not even list the XC Black - only lists the XC Gaming for $389.99 (limited availability - i.e. out of stock) and the only difference appears to be a 105mhz or 5.9% clock boost for a $60 premium (18% more cost for less than 6% more performance). Maybe they are waiting for enough of the XC Gaming cards to fail to hit the 1882mhz speed, so they can have XC Black Gaming 1777mhz to sell???? What a deal for a card that does not appear to exist irl...
I have the ASUS Dual OC and upgraded the BIOS from the official site. The clocks now boost at 1950Mhz instead of 1837Mhz at 1.0620V max and goes below 1V most of the time for 1833-1867Mhz. 0.9V for 1740Mhz. That was a nice surprise. Furthermore, the card runs extremely cool. Great BIOS, indeed.
Another in the fictional series 'Current Video Cards, previously Current Video Cards, or Cards Made Since 1970 under ~$3000: In Stock and Available for the Average Consumer'. You did make this an entertaining show, and thanks for that!
That sharpie QC mark might be similar to a spot check I've seen in auto manufacturing. Basically you have to make a particular set of marks every time which forces you to inspect certain areas. I'd guess they are checking for the gold triangle to be present and oriented correctly.
A detail many missed about the card is the honeycomb airflow patterns in the display ports. If you take a seriously look you can see that, if you optimize the pattern by essentially removing the holes that are facing the ports' direction and then move the rest of the honeycombs "down"(closer to the ports) by 1 "step" you get better airflow. A relatively insignificant thing depending on your case especially when there are other patterns you can make to make that space more efficient in terms of airflow but still, it goes to show you how little companies think, i mean, come on, you are making a honeycomb pattern anyway, at least do it better there would literally be no additional cost to it.
I just came up in the EVGA "Q" and was sent the email that this card was available to order for $399.00 plus tax and shipping. You have 20 hours to respond and then the next person comes up and so on. It took about a year for my name to come up but I've been waiting for a long time to finish this build. EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC BLACK GAMING, 12G-P5-3655-KR, 12GB GDDR6, Dual-Fan, this is the card I ordered. So there is hope for those of you wondering.
G'day Steve, Where I shop at Scorptec here in Sydney after being on sale all day there still 6 models 'In stock at supplier' & marked ***Limited to 1 per household*** they are priced $749-$869AUD so although we are at $1USD to $1.29AUD they are more than 2x $USD MSRP
I did win the Newegg shuffle yesterday and ordered the overclocked version with backplate for $389. It may be "meh" but stuck using a 7950 right now. I gave my 1070 away in November thinking I would easily get a 3070, boy was that a mistake! Anyway, this will hold me over until the better cards are easier to get, if they ever are.
I had a chance to buy one but at the prices it was ridiculous. 389 for the cheapest one at bestbuy. I already have a evga ftw 3 ultra 3070, but wanted a second card if I wanted to do a different build. But the price is horrIble.
@@toinebles haha if I was gonna brag I would say I got my ftw 3 ultra 3070 for 591 usd before shipping and taxes. Cost me 646 after taxes and shipping. But thats for a top of the line 3070 model that will last a while. Plus evga provides a 3 year warranty which I appreciate.
I used to watch RU-vid comedy channels with my morning coffee but now I watch Steve, his comedy is much more witty and thought provoking ...... And the reviews are pretty good too
7:14 *Sigh.....Yes, that is a chip orientation mark, it is there because while you "could" physically solder the chip down in any orientation...to make it function you do want the proper pins to line up with the proper pads/foil runs of the pcb. So that mark helps you to know what that proper orientation is. There are others for different chips like a molded divot in the plastic jacket of said chip for example. It just depends on the product and manufacturer. Also there should be a corresponding mark on said pcb, they're tiny and vissually innocuous.
i recently purchased an evga rtx 3070 ftw ultra and it was bc it was the only card i could find. im grateful that having to settle it was at least a good card.
Those other inductors probably get enough air flow since a heatpipe isnt ontop of them. So they probably only needed to conduct from those two inductors to keep them cool.
I'm liking this Quantum Nvida RX 5700 XT with 12GB of VRAM with fluctuating prices of "Auto Notify", "$400", "$900", "Sold Out", "please do another captcha", "$1500", and "Website is over capacity".
There haven't been good prices for GPUs since the Nvidia 9xx-series. Though the 5700XT was a small window of somewhat-bearable until scalpers, human malware and Crypto Minetards blew it up again. Unless your hardware is physically broken, just hold on to what you've got and keep your money.
Console gaming is becoming more of something people need to consider. One good thing about it is that by people turning to consoles even more people could send a clear message to Nvidia to get their shit together. Yes AMD would be getting our money through the consoles but at least Nvidia would get a kick in the ass. Maybe then just then when they are seeing far less money they might actually bring out cards with real value. Gosh forbid we see a $200 US video card worth buying again.
It was hard to watch video card content until recently. I had a son that really needs a new build and telling him time and time again there really is nothing was not fun. Despite not being able to get anything and despite Nvidia being horrible even before shortages (goes back to the 2000 series where they started taking all our money) and AMD following suit later I can say I enjoyed your video today. I also really enjoyed you getting the ball rolling on that case recall and such from NZXT or whoever it was. You are the best Gamers Nexus. When I think of a channel to recommend to others this is the one.
I lent both my GTX 1060 and my RX 590 to friends who needed it more right now, so I use a GT 730 1gb DDR3 for recording and editing my videos. Guess what? It works. It's not fast or the best quality, but it works. It can also run Monster Hunter world in like 460p and 20fps
Random info, but from the video it looks like the fan connector's a HY-4P (other OEMs might use different style of connectors though, I know the Asus Dual 3070 uses a HY-6P; same connector, but with 2 more pins - hence making it 6 pins total - for lighting)
ended up getting one of these I used my skills my friend wanted a custom loop he bought all parts for his custom loop and he was not confident I told him leave everything at my house for 3 days I will do it for you he agreed first day I made a test loop with no cpu parts to leak check and also used sys prep to get it ready let that run next day was a flush and mock up then the 3rd day I built the loop and overclocked for him xDD i was happy got a new gpu and time to play with others computers his specs where ryzen 9 5950x rtx two rtx 3080's 32 gb ram @3600 asus rog crosshair 8 dark hero(Iprefer my x470 crosshair 7 no chipset fan)2 360 rads ek blocks and d5 pump he is very happy
7:30 Technically soldering or brazing, not welding, because a dissimilar metal is added to make the bond without melting base metals. I'm sure you know that and misspoke, but just to educate anyone reading the comments: www.uti.edu/blog/welding/brazing-soldering-welding 8:04 Just a guess, probably copper to wick heat centrally where the solid aluminum block contacts the copper strip and heat pipes, since conduction should be a lot greater there than on the fins. That ~1" wide solid block may be massive enough to make up for the difference in material thermal conductivity and might not actually lose much efficiency. I wonder if they got away with the cost of such a big piece of solid Al because it was produced in scale and works for other cards too, you can see (13:07) it has grooves for 4 heat pipes to contact it but only uses 2 of those. 10:22 This took me a minute but the reason only 2 inductors have a thermal pad is because they're below the pair of heat pipes and don't get direct airflow like the rest of them. Makes sense, I'd give them a pass. Though, positioning could be a little better. It's when a pad only contacts fins that I'd call it half assed, but there are several variables.
