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Taking the LIFEPO4 EEL Battery apart - Broken display 

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EEL battery display stopped working.Time to diagnose the problem.

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29 авг 2024

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@martinwragg8246
@martinwragg8246 2 месяца назад
Logical fault finding, I'm glad the fault stayed on, intermittent faults can be a pain.
@BrindleBrown
@BrindleBrown 2 месяца назад
Your video illustrates one of the main reasons I prefer systems built with redundant components. If you have two batteries (or inverters, or charge controllers), then it is so much easier to troubleshoot problems. The other benefit is that you can keep the system running with one component out of service. I also like how clearly you showed how it’s done. Keep going! I enjoy your channel very much.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Completely agree having redundancy does make things much easier.
@UnkyjoesPlayhouse
@UnkyjoesPlayhouse 2 месяца назад
Love those EEL battery cases, I have dealt with those folks when I purchased some raw LIFEPO4 cells, they were great. I love the fact that you are fearless digging into this stuff..
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Yes completely agree their cases are brilliant very sturdy everything fits and they're great people to deal with. Also they have warehouses in Europe and America so the shipping is local and very quick.
@showme360
@showme360 2 месяца назад
Hi Sarah interest video, I liked your problem solving approach to diagnose the display fault, which by the way seems to be a dry solder joint on the display power pin, would be my guess, might be fixable. Whilst you were facing the camera the display, amusingly, turned on momentarily, and turned off as you turn to look at it. I could help but notice the power cut off switches on top of the battery packs. Good to see your going to swap out those round red switches, which was one of my recommendation a few videos back. I guess that is what your next video will be about, so looking forward to that. The air con unit is a good idea, much better than the mobile unit. Ours are in the loft space, not ideal I know, but that is were they have been for the last 2 summers, the first summer the ambient temperature topped out at 50c, but the batteries were only 30c so all was good, but I did install some fans that draw up air from under the floor boards directly to the Inverters to help keep them cool, and included a vet at one end of the loft space. Even though these events only happen 2 or 3 times a year in weekly intervals, its not really perceived as a threat, as the cell I have can cope up to 60c. I've event seen this temperature in our car battery pack on hot summer days when driving long distance. We are planning an extension that includes a battery / Inverter housed on the ground within the design. Cheers Ken
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Sounds like you've got an interesting system there... yes in the next video I'm going to be working on the isolator switches...
@amowatt01
@amowatt01 2 месяца назад
Impressive how u showed ur documenting and trouble shooting skills........will surely follow as I start my solar learning journey. thks.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Thanks glad you enjoy my videos
@Franky6767
@Franky6767 2 месяца назад
Your channel is very inspiring, thank you for your videos! One more subscriber :)
@remog38
@remog38 2 месяца назад
Thank you Sarah
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
No problem glad you're enjoying the videos
@rpsmith
@rpsmith Месяц назад
You took your watch off but not your ring! I have seen the carnage a ring can do after contacting 48V and it isn't something you want to experience!
@lldragon
@lldragon 2 месяца назад
good methodology 💪. and another nice video. keep working
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Thanks, will do!
@seppm64
@seppm64 Месяц назад
Why did you shut down all your solar production to use grid only? If I am not mistaken, the inverter wont care if the power comes from the MPPTs only. So, in my eyes swichting off the batteries should have been done the trick.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om Месяц назад
Well basically at the moment I've got the system set up to external communication meaning at the system is listening to the batteries so if I turn the batteries off the systems shuts down I could have changed the settings before I turn the battery off but I couldn't be bothered to be honest
@alaasadek2908
@alaasadek2908 2 месяца назад
Bravo from Egypt
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Wow I'm amazed I've got people in Egypt watching my videos. I'm glad that you're finding them interesting... I bet you could generate some serious solar power over there in Egypt...
@alaasadek2908
@alaasadek2908 2 месяца назад
@Gridbusters-qx4om haha yes we have 3400 of sunny hours per year in Cairo and more than 4000 in Aswan. And yes I have an 11kw Eastman inverter and another 6kw inverter. I have 18 panels 550W each and on the way are 300ah battery. I can charge my BYD Atto 3 in 7 hours from the sun. And I run 3 air conditioners induction top etc. So like you I am trying to bust not only the grid but OPEC. I don't want my son to cross the red sea and dies to protect a hole in the ground. About 10 years ago I built a battery from rubbish of a computer mall. Old laptop batteries. We had unrest here. And my kids needed the Internet. So I built a 24V system and powered the the whole house. It was fun. I tought my son how to weld. Nearly 1000 18650 batteries. One day he will appreciate it. I hope.
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 2 месяца назад
i have just got Air to Air with a heat pump on a split system its really cheap compared to radiators and only took a day to install, Great for winter and summer .
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
I haven't really thought about that, but yes I guess it would be good for heating as well great if we have a really cold winter I'd be able to heat the plant room with it...
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 2 месяца назад
@@Gridbusters-qx4om I've only had it a week but i had been watching many RU-vid videos about them , it was cheaper than if i had the UK Government grant of £7,500 , this with only 3 cassettes and the heat pump was less than 5k . and so cheap to run , im getting a 2nd Powerwall 2 soon as the price has come down . I'm enjoying your project very interesting thanks .
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
That sounds really interesting I might be wrong but I think you can't get the government grant if your heat pump does air conditioning the government grant will only allow the heat pumps to do heating not air conditioning.
@rodden1953
@rodden1953 2 месяца назад
@@Gridbusters-qx4om You are right they dont do a grant for Air2Air but there is no VAT on renewables' , I'm not having a hot water tank either as i haven't had a bath for years and when i ask people they say the same . All that hot water you have to have to get the government grant , so im having two under sink water heaters that i probably wont even use a kettle is just as good .
@gordon6029
@gordon6029 2 месяца назад
You want to find an ac unit with two ports on it. An input and exhaust. I got mine for my grow room off of Facebook marketplace. But as I listen, yes a mini split would be a good idea. Check out the ones designed for solar. A bit more expensive but runs off of very little energy.
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
OK thanks I'll have a look however the only time it will be running is when we have a massive excess of power so the energy usage isn't that important
@TheRonskiman
@TheRonskiman 2 месяца назад
@@Gridbusters-qx4om The problem with most portable aircon units like you have is they suck the air out the room, so all that air going out has to be replaced, and that means hot air from outside the room is sucked in, hence Gordon's comment about using one with two ports. Mini split will solve the problem very nicely, and be much more efficient. Incidently one of my JK BMS displays stopped working a few weeks back. Your's looks like the back light is failing, or has a bad connection.
@PaulRansonArt
@PaulRansonArt 2 месяца назад
Check out the mini split systems used in the USA. Can you get one here? (France) Pre gassed for self install - Might be able to do it without getting expensive air con installers
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
In France you're not allowed to install them yourself but I'll have a look anyway
@Juergen_Miessmer
@Juergen_Miessmer 2 месяца назад
​@@Gridbusters-qx4om Then the Midea Porta Splitt is maybe a good solution for you.
@daveingram9240
@daveingram9240 2 месяца назад
yay - fault finding 101 !!
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
I find it kind of annoying doing fault finding but incredibly rewarding when you find the fault and fix it.
@Orentas01
@Orentas01 2 месяца назад
I think carefully resoldering all contacts on display pcb would fix your issue without buying a new display
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
I don't need to buy one they're going to send me a new one for free
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
But once I get the new display I might try repairing the old one that's an excellent idea then I'd have a spare
@keyem4504
@keyem4504 2 месяца назад
I had one of these displays fail on me as well. Seems that just dropping a spanner on it renders it dysfunctional.😉
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Ok so it sounds like they're a bit fragile
@keyem4504
@keyem4504 2 месяца назад
@@Gridbusters-qx4om 😂
@Greg-bx4id
@Greg-bx4id 2 месяца назад
I have pretty much the same cases....EEL with breakers and single terminals and no display. What do you need the display for when the BMS has bluetooth and an active 2a balancer?
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Actually one thing I didn't mention in the video is the Bluetooth on that battery isn't working either as the Bluetooth is part of the display module.
@Greg-bx4id
@Greg-bx4id 2 месяца назад
@@Gridbusters-qx4om I believe the bluetooth is not part of the display module. It's in the BMS...well at least for my JK BMS. You probably have the Seplos BMS? I assume you are using the right app on your phone to recognize both BMSs.... Is one BMS working perfectly or are you having bluetooth issues with just the one with the funky display?
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
Yes, I have the Seplos bms. One of the batteries I can connect to is absolutely fine, but the one with the broken display I can't connect to
@Greg-bx4id
@Greg-bx4id 2 месяца назад
@@Gridbusters-qx4om If you haven't already tried, instead of just swapping displays, maybe try swapping the wiring harness between displays as well. It seems intermittent and those tiny wires break easy. Or put the questionable display with the good BMS and its set of good cables. Just a thought...best of luck. PS: I like the Victron gear.
@adityabaradia3675
@adityabaradia3675 2 месяца назад
Hey, which BMSs are you using?
@Gridbusters-qx4om
@Gridbusters-qx4om 2 месяца назад
SEPLOS Smart BMS and I've also added a neey active balancer
@adityabaradia3675
@adityabaradia3675 2 месяца назад
@@Gridbusters-qx4om oh great.. I am using jk inverter communication bms, 150 amp one. With my deye 5kw single phase inverter.. I have this strange issue, while exporting to the grid, throughout the day, my battery drains by 10%. And if I don't export, battery SoC remains constant throughout the day.. Tried everything, different firmwares etc.. nothing helped..
@forresteralex
@forresteralex 2 месяца назад
​@@adityabaradia3675 Try checking your balance issues ?
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