You are not abusive and agressive. You have a loud voice especially when exicited. Many folks are turned off by buth loud voices and excitement. Fuck them. Keep up the great reactions.
Your American, the load voice is in your DNA. It pisses Eropeans off with tourists because we don't talk in your way, but we expect it. No worries your in America and reacting to Ren, its understandable.
I just wanted to share this with you from Ren's community page, which I think is very relevant to your personal experience with this trilogy. So once again, this is from Ren: One of my favorite things about watching reaction channels is how songs become a catalyst for allowing others to share some times deeply personal stories of their own. While the lyrics I write are very personal to me and my own experience, its so cool to watch them open up an environment where people feel liberated enough to publicly talk about things which may have been silently carried or only spoken about to close friends. From stories of addiction, to illness, to interpersonal turmoil, its really nice to see a public space being carved out where people can retrospectively reflect and in turn be supported by their communities. In summary, music is fucking cool
@@DivineMedusa165 The first is titled "Ren X Chinchilla - How To Be Me (Live)" and the other is "Ren X Chinchilla Chalk Outlines (Live)". I'm pretty sure they are both one takes.
@@DivineMedusa165after hearing Ren x Chinchilla, you'll have to venture down the Chinchilla rabbit hole as well. You'll love her. She's essentially a female Ren. Ren says she's his musical sister.
chalk outlines live, bongo bong , humble, how to be me, genesis, the hunger, animal flow, loosing it,dear god, it's allright, praise, bitter sweet symphony, love music, all those I forgot just now but let's not forget about Joe....all yours to pick
@@ROMsquad I've hung with you for awhile now (Mike The Dad Crosby or DyvmSlorm not sure what I posted under back then). Love the progression and LOVE the addition of Bree (apologies if I spelt it wrong).
@@DyvmSlorm i remembered your picture but the name was different you was in all the lives you recommend the beat box video. you always showed up how you been fam ????
@@ROMsquad We just bought a new house in Texas (getting out of the Minneapolis area) but also getting our daughter graduated from High School up here. Lots going on. We will fully move sometime next year and then be empty nesters.
Many people, men and women, have cried to his songs. Some have broken down to this song and some have blanked it out partway through from their own traumas. This song seems to touch everyone in some way. Seeing the reaction at the end when the person realizes what just happened is priceless.
Don’t get me wrong it is a fantastic body of work, it is pure creative genius but crying to it is a bit like crying when Bambi dies in the old Disney movie.
@@supertuscans9512 Right, because a deer and a young, pregnant human woman brutalized her whole life are comparable. Do me a favor and get a stethoscope, do you hear anything beating in your chest? No offense, but I'm pretty sure you were born without a heart.
Sorry to hear about your friend it’s so scary how ppl like that really walk amongst us.. how someone can do those types of things is literally sickening. Love the reaction guys.. the hunger will be a better vibe for bri.. I still tear up watching ren stuff an I’ve seen it many of times.. i can relate.. but it’s straight hip hop.. one of my favs cause you get to see another side I don’t think you have seen yet. Keep ‘em coming, I’m here for it..
Ive seen this a 100 times you guys ... And this time it hit me the hardest! After you told your story about Mandy, and I can see the disgust on Bri's face which was making it even harder to keep composure, I wont lie when Ren got to the part with doctor snapping out of it calling in the surgeon I had tears rolling down my face no joke. Im a 6'4" 255 lb full of meat and potatoes piss and vinegar man that doesnt let his emotions out often! This one I felt big time. But then when the twist hit you guys and you both realized they were brother and sister and mom..Now Im laughing with tears in my eyes! It was like one extreme to the next .. gawd darn fuck you guys lol I need to go sharpen my axe and chop a few innocent trees down regain my manhood maybe drink some old motor oil right out of my trucks engine! Im a man damnit! lol This was you two! The Ren Rollercoaster is a wild ride and hes so unique with so many lanes he can take you on! Hes just unlike any other artist that Ive been introduced to yet! And Bri, If you have request for his band the Big Push yet count my vote for that! With their cover of I shot the sheriff,
Here's my understanding of how the origin story of this trilogy came to be & the messages within. 🤩😁🤯 This wasn't originally a trilogy story. Ren read a small article about a 14 yr old boy killing a young prostitute with a knife in an attempted robbery. Knife crime had been skyrocketing in London at this time. Later that same evening the boy had been shot and killed by the police responding to a possible suspect for a girl found murdered in Sussex Gardens in Paddington - one of the capital's most notorious red light districts. It disturbed him, so he set out to write a commentary not just on senseless violence, but on how desensitized we've become to it. The words he ends both Jenny and Screech's Tales with is "It's such a Shame" we say these words all to often and just move on without a second thought. The the lead inspector was quoted saying " So Young, It's such a shame". Violets Tale was written over 2 years later adding another layer of commentary by Ren. He wanted us to consider not only generational violence but to make us look at all angles of society that we turn a blind eye to. Both characters are born out of violence on that cruel night of Violets beating and then both killed with brutal violence in the same night 14yrs later. Also, his lyrics have even more meaning when you read in between the lines. For example he doesn't say what Jenny was doing or why she wanted to escape from this place & life, or why Screech thought she was older saying at Patrick's door "I left this lady lying on the floor". Could that be because the way she's dressed & her heavy makeup? Also why was a 14yr old girl out so late in the dead of night walking alone in a sketchy area, wearing high heeled shoes, walking down a street that "she's walked it a thousand times before"? Everything points to Jenny being an underage prostitute, showing us what Ren writes has reason & is made to make us think. There's no fat on the bone, every word is weighed & has meaning. Interesting how Jenny has the same traits as her mother Violet, quiet, voiceless, and timid. Whereas Screech mirrors his father Stevie (the Prick boyfriend) in every way, Loud, obnoxious, and easily provoked to violence. They didn't know one another and had never met their biological parents. What made these kids so much like their parents? Was it simply Nature, inherited traits due to their genetic make-up OR Nurture, being brought up in the broken governmental system filled with, mistreated & in many cases, abused children, shuffled from one foster home to another ? He organically takes us on this journey, leaving us to think shouldn't we be doing better in this so called "advanced, wealthy, 1st world society. I'm loving your reactions. Cheers 🥂
There's also the theory that Stevie wasn't the father of the twins. Violet's father was. That's why she got a council flat on welfare (she was pregnant already) at 16 years old. Also explains why Stevie kept calling her a liar and a slut... It's a horrific theory, but it makes sense, and Ren never wastes a line... So a 16-year-old getting a flat by herself on welfare is not a common occurrence, and I'm pretty sure Ren's genius mind weighed every word for value. Generational trauma and horror that is all too common and ignored or overlooked. Ren's bringing it to light so we look and actually see the problems..
I've said it before. Ren's words paint the most vivid images I think I've ever seen from a lyrical performer. Like you almost know exactly what Jenny and Screech look like and how their emotions jump out of the screen into your heart.
I am so sorry to hear about your friend. But also, thank you for sharing your story. That trauma is never easy to talk about. Much love to you both! ❤️ Love your Ren reactions! You should check out "Hunger" next. He can rap rap.
8:10 Patrick is missing because he is "Busy" with Screech's girlfriend. 12:54 Ren embodies Violate waking up cold and confused from being unconscious (looking around confused; haunting hymns...) 13:42 Y'all caught the rewind. 15:00 (I see her smiling through the pain/trauma... Glad she and you all are working towards a better life. In my opinion music is healing even when it hurts sometimes. It's clear to me shes very happy with you. This pain is from the past; where is belongs.) 16:09 If you never feel 100% comfortable; don't. Again very clear your man cares a a lot and hates what happened to you. 16:52 Fast forward time to the present when the song started with Violate laying in the bed. In the end Jenny was just like her mother Violate and froze like her in fear. Which in return angered Screech who is just like his father Stevie. 25:38 NO brother... That's not it at all! I love all genres of music and have listened to much music for 30 years. He almost NEVER MISSES. NON STOP BANGERS!
Np brother, I respect real down to earth people and am a huge fan of Ren. Music and the person; which is extremally rare for me. 99% of the time I disconnect the music with the person because many people on Ren's level are out of touch. It is so funny your girl listed many things Ren can do. I give that description as well... sing, rap, act, direct, beatbox, produce his own beats, and write both musically and written word at Shakespeare levels... I was also the person who you brought up about the "Someone said Ren makes you forget you are doing a reaction lol.."@@ROMsquad
In Britain that is called Being Gob Smacked. Ren's Music is Bardchord, an Very Old Tradition of giving You the News with Traveling Actors, Comedians and Musicians. Ren has Updated the Tradition.@@ROMsquad
Coolest part of his guitar skills is he is completely self taught. Everything his does he learned from listening to other stuff and fuckin around with his guitar
This was GREAT. You two are SO cute together. Ren's Tales are something to behold. He said that it was proof of concept and he has been working on a project to present to Netflix. A dark musical series. I think that it's only a matter of time and his health. It WILL happen.
Thank you for being open. Ren has helped me deal with my own trauma. And saved my life by helping me realize a med I'd been on for 13 yrs was slowly killing me. Ren saves lives in so many ways. He's much more than a brilliant artist. God bless you both for being so vulnerable. 💜💜💜
Interesting that you picked up on the bed, in a interview with Ren and Sam, they said that they ordered the hospital bed online, but when it arrived for the video shoot of Violets tale they had a problem because it was a child's bed. They didn't have time to get another bed, so they lifted it up on trestles, and Ren had to bend his knees to make it look bigger 😂😂 All three videos were live one take videos... in Screeches tale they had to abandon one of the takes because someone shouted 'shut the fuck up' 😂😂
Yesss I can't believe he caught that. I literally never noticed until I saw that live stream where they talked about having to improvise and prop the bed up. After you see it, you can't unsee it. 🤣
Think about it ! They were obviously 14 Year olds. Jenny was walking the streets at night in High Healed Shoes on streets she walks every night and Screech was living on the streets hurting people for money. They both had traits of the parents 😢🙏
@DivineMedusa165 Tanx for the reply... 😊 ... Some Ren to Not Miss: Illest of our time, Hunger, Animal Flow (part two of Murderer!), Ocean, Hold On, Crutch, Ready for You, Humble, Life is Funny, Pentinence, Diazapam, Domino's, Fire, I Shot the Sheriff/Road to Zion/Hip Hop (that version!) Englishman in New York, Praise You, Bittersweet Symphony, Power, Bongo Bong, Earned it/Mansworld... etc... Lol... I'm sure ya gotta list already! And basically like I said... all his stuff is awesome IMHO! Anywho... ya Cannot go wrong with Ren! We RENegades of the RENaissance will be here for yall! LMBO
Iv said it 100x, Ren is so good because he has served his apprenticeship, not only in music but in life aswel. He isnt some rich stage school kid telling normal people what they should think or do.
1:35 - “ah he can play” yep, he can indeed. Love it - y’all doing a great job! When I heard you say that, I can’t help but think that we’re likely to hear, “Oh he can *RAP* Rap” when get into that side of Ren, maybe Losing It 🌀 or The Hunger 🧟♂️. I’ll try to catch up and keep up with y’all! 🤘🏼🎧🤟🏼
I'm 9 months into the Renverse, and just obsessed. I listen to the premiers, hit all the reaction videos, have the music on my phone and in my car, and regardless of the 2nd to 50th listen, still can't get enough. Can't wait to own my first Ren CD when the release gets mailed to me. This song wrecked me, but Violet's Tale is probably musically the best piece he's written.
I love the chemistry between you guys. This is such a great set of songs to watch people react to. The first time you hear it is such a shock to the system, and most Ren fans love watching others echo their own initial reaction to it. Ren's versatility is wide, and after listening to probably 80% of his content in the last 7 months (I'm trying to savour the remaining 20%), I can honestly say there's not been a bad track so far. Some are not musically to my taste, but there is ALWAYS something within each song that impresses me. His back catalogue is littered with gems. Dominoes is fantastic, Money Game 1 +2 (part 3 to come next month). Love Music parts 1-4 are fabulous. Part 1 is over a decade old, while part 4 was within the last month. They show his progression musically, plus they are fun and upbeat. So many tracks for you guys to discover! I'm sorry about your friend. I'm not a violent person, but if anyone hurt my kids (from my 27 year old down to my 8 year old) I would do time, and no mistake. Child abusers are the scum of the earth.
Great reactions guys. Please do Ren with Chinchilla, they have two epic songs How To Be Me & Chalk Outlines. Peace and love. P.S. I'm so sorry to hear about that little girl that was your friend. That touched me deeply when you explained your story. I hope the piece of garbage that did it suffered for it. All child abusers and killers need to be exterminated. * Edit Please do the live versions of the above songs!
Brother, I’ve watched reactions to this probably a hundred times. Your story brought me to tears. That’s the power of Ren’s music. You relate to it. I’m some form or fashion, we can FEEL it. I’m so sorry about your friend. I hate this world sometimes. But we have to endure and try to do what we can to bring some light into the world. Thanks for your reaction and for telling your story.
Im so sorry about your friend. That's a crushing story. Much love brother. You need to do a happy Ren song next. Try "Losing It" or something from his band "The Big Push".
Ren and his boy Sam who films almost all of his videos have talked to Netflix about doing a show in this style. They already got a pilot and five episodes lined up to pitch to them. Ren wants to also have other up and coming artists as well as established artists come one also. That will separate the men from the boys because if you can do it like Ren, live and in one take then you're a real freaking singer, songwriter and actor! And you noticed the bed hahaha on a livestream on Twitch Ren and Sam told the story about that bed. Ren ordered it on Amazon and the day they were filming Sam got to the location early to set up and when he opened the box he realized Ren ordered a child's bed by mistake hahaha. So they had to use crates and sh*t to prop it up so it wasn't on the floor lol Awesome reaction as always you guys!
I love that you caught that the bed leg didnt touch the ground! I haven't seen another reactor catch that! Backstory: He ordered a bed for the shoot and didnt realize he ordered a child size until it arrived right before filming. With no time to reorder, they set the bed on something to raise it up. It was precarious and if he moved the wrong way it would tip. This was filmed in a friend's apartment complex. The "hospital room" was a bike storage room with the bikes hidden behind the hospital curtain.
Bri, if you are anything like many of us Ren fans, you will find a connection to a number of his songs that will become very therapeutic. My life has honestly changed for the better just from listening to his artistry for the last 6 months. Things I didn’t realize I had eating away at me were suddenly coming out as I cried over and over while listening to the same songs again and again.I can feel the trauma you are so bravely holding within and look forward to the day you are able to relinquish even a portion of that burden and really live your life to the fullest. If I'm way off base, I apologize and mean no harm.
Being my first comment, and fresh subscriber,after following multiple reactions.........my sincere respect for sharing that, very personal and heavy story, about your friend, tears of horror hearing this, whilst same tears of love felt of the loss, made me "love" you as a person and human being instantly, without having the faintest idea how that must feel or have felt. i am so sorry you had to go through that, and thank you for being this "manly" persona, sharing these volunarble feelings, at same time, that also ren, with his talent, lets all of us connect with. both of you shine love between both of you.......ok gonna stop now and just say, thankyou and much love xxx
I am so sorry for the loss of your friend especially in such a tragic manner, may she be resting in peace and watching over you all. I also want to say it is beautiful to see the love you both share for each other in these reactions ❤
I second that!! These 2 are such fun reactors. And alvin, if you want to see where I ran across RDiss, search YT for “RDiss Stairway”. It was so cool a couple years ago to follow his discovery of LZ - it didn’t take long before he knew all the members by name! 🤘🏼🎧🤟🏼
Duuuuude. Her immediate reaction (sorry, don’t know their names yet) to Jenny and then him wordlessly handing her a tissue. THEN getting choked up just talking about her breaking down?! SUBBED. Thank you for the genuine heart.
Thank you ❤❤ for the reaction und your own story. I am sorry for your friend Mandy and for you. Ren shouts out Immortal Technique's Dance w/ the Devil when moving from the stairwell (signifying infinity - the repetition of intergenerational violence) towards the door, singing "the Devil comes to dance".
Violet was killed by her boyfriend, not her stepfather. She got with someone that continued the cycle of violence, she died in childbirth, and they were separated at birth. He then killed his own sister without knowing 14 years later
The Tale of Jenny and Screetch always gives me a series of unfortunate events (the tv show with nph) vibes, if you take out most of the comedy and add actual feeling and meaning to the story. You always think "maybe it turns out ok" but then its just more bad news, and its amazing and beautiful, and just like real life.
I've never seen a reaction like this. I'm from the uk. England. My life has been messed up to. So I can relate but reactors like you. And your woman. Not many, I said that because I can see the trauma. It's hard to relate to people when they reacting and they been silver spoon fed. You guys I'm late to finding you but. Its touching wherever you are in life much love ❤️
Cool i love how you fixed the focus and the light is way better in this vid.. love to see you enjoyed the song 👍🏼 you are awesome and welcome to the ren rabbit hole 🥰
Great reaction guys you two are great couple! Sorry for your loss really sad and horrific 😢 try chalk outlines live version for vocals and suicide live version really emotional it’s dedicated to his friend Joe the 3rd and last song dedicated to his friend Joe he has freckled angel the first song and How to be me second song. Thanks and keep up the Ren Rollercoaster You won’t be disappointed with any of his songs!
I love how you’re wife saw the punchline coming and you didn’t yet, she waited, fucking awesome 😂❤😂❤ but I also love how you two are together and have empathy for these songs, it is wonderful to watch ❤️🥰
I've been following ren for about 8 months and I've yet to find a piece by him I don't enjoy. There are some songs I struggle to listen to (Crutch) being one and also a few that I don't have on my play list. These are still bangers but not suitable for the daily drive to work. 😢 Your reactions are fantastic and real. Keep following the Rabbit.
You did it, got me as a sub. It's nice to see you picking up more of the genius of Ren. Welcome to the Ren rabbit warren. You're in for a treat on the roller-coaster thats Ren . He'll bring you up high with some bangers the drop you right down in your feels. Hang on tight. Im here for it. As a couple of suggestions, Chalk Outlines, How To Be Me, The Hunger. 🇨🇦🔥✌
He said when they got the bed and went to set it up it they found out it was a child’s bed and was super close to the ground. So it’s balanced on a couple boxes. You’re the first reactor I’ve seen that’s noticed it 😂 Also, that’s an enema bag for the IV 😁
And a light stand for the IV stand 😋😁… and the hospital room is a bike room (where people leave their bikes) in his friend’s apartment building (same building they filmed Animal Flow in )😁… you need to get creative if you have no money for videos 😁
@@GoodGirlGone yeah I thought that was cool! I asked him and Sam about that in a recent twitch and Sam confirmed it and also said Hi Ren and Sick Boi were in the same building. Pretty sure a scene or two from What You Want was there too. One of them mentioned they shot Violet’s Tale for 100 quid. I love what they are able to do with a boatload of creative genius and practically zero budget with the help of incredibly talented and loyal friends.
Wow, the magic between you two is really shining now! The first reaction I saw, I kinda thought "this loud guy is really dominating this nice lady, I hope she's ok", and I've watched you take what's useful from a whole lotta conflicting advice and some pretty brutal criticism and use it in the best possible way: by thinking, talking, learning, growing, improving. And now it feels like you're coming across as you really are: an awesome, quirky pair of lovely human beings. It's really inspiring! I am genuinely delighted to see how damn good you're both getting at this reaction caper!
Lol i think you're the first reactors to notice the bed.. Ren said on a twitch stream that the bed was actually a toddler bed and they had to try to make it look like a normal hospital bed...lol Great reaction.. new sub. Thank you.
Please don't kick our butts!! 😂. I love your reactions. So expressive and you really do, "Get it" . I know you're getting so many suggestions thrown at you, but you can't go wrong with any of Ren's catalogue . However ... I also suggest, Ren and his band singing a mash up of I shot the sheriff, Zion and Hip Hop while busking ( singing live),on the streets of Brighton, South England. Anyway, greetings to you both from South England.✌
Yes. Ren is not just a mega-talented artist, and skillful story-teller, he's also a powerful social commentator who is not afraid to tackle the hard social issues. He brings us right into the frame, not as audience but to 'stand witness'. He wants us to Care. Not just murmur empty platitudes like; "Oh dear... what a shame", and then click away to the next 20 second news item. Ren is saying; Don't look away, this is happening daily all around us. We KNOW the pathways that lead innocents like Jenny, Screech & Violet toward becoming victims and / or perpetrators. Why aren't we doing more to stop these tragedies, these crimes. Thank you for speaking up with your story / Mandy's story. Honouring their lives and making sure they're not forgotten, painful as it is, it is so important.
Gotta love the reactions where it hits right at the last second! Great reaction!! If you're looking for a mind blower - Illest Of Our Time. Genesis is another great hit! Keep it up, y'all are too fun to watch!
Love your reactions!! You guys fast becoming one of my favorites here on YT! Keep the enthusiasm going and I am enjoying the Ren Train with y’all! RENegade Nation!! Pats fan here too btw!
All Ren is Genius. But 'Hi Ren' and 'The Tale of Jenny and Screech' are the considered, essential viewing before you disappear down 'The Ren rabbit Hole':) Great channel guys x
OMG! You are the only reactor that noticed that the bed wasn't on the ground. Ren talked about it in a live stream, and said that they ended up with a child's bed. It was short (in both height and length), so they propped it up on light stands.
I could not love you guys any more than I do right now ❤️❤️ You have killer energy and are freaking hilarious 🤣 Most of all, I love how much you love each other 🥰 truly beautiful xx I think that you will feel Dominoes ✌️
Idk that there's a single song of his I haven't added to a playlist. "Dominoes" was uploaded 3yr ago, but Ren gives such a relevant depiction of reality, y'all should check that out sometime. I could do like prior commentors & list dozens of reaction-worthy Ren songs, & I'm sure you'll get to Dominoes sooner or later. Btw, love your chemistry w/1 another & y'all's passion for this art, & don't sweat it, I tear up every time you do bc it hits home, it shines a light on some real-world ish. ✌💙👽
This story is a gut wrenching one. This was a nice side of you to see and it was alot different than other reactions I've watched. I'm sorry about your friend, that is absolutely awful.
I find that I need to read the lyrics when I’m listening to a song of his that’s new to me. He packs so much into his lyrics, I want to make sure I’m getting it all. Ren is an incredible talent. You should look up his busking with his old band The Big Push.
You guys make a great couple, the way you automatically comfort each other with a touch or just a glance, it speaks volumes. In regards to the reaction, when I first heard it it reminded me of 'Dance with the devil' too.
Really enjoyed watching that again with you two. 'Enjoyed' hmm, but you know what I mean. But hey, Ren is a story teller. I'm loving his new rap stuff, but he'll come back to story-telling for sure, I hope
R, anyone thinks you’re “too aggressive” 😂….. I am from Texas/Georgia and you make me SO HAPPY with it because it’s like hanging out with all my family and friends from NY. People don’t understand, NY is just different. So for me I feel like I’m with family, so I’m here for it! ❤ love watching you two, idk why YT take your vids off my page and notifications 🤷🏼♀️. I’m glad I searched you back out after a month of not seeing you, I couldn’t believe they took my notifications off……problem solved. Your passion is mistaken for aggression 🙄 (that’s not on you) …..and I’m all here for that accent and passion…..FAM😉
Thanks fam I appreciate your understanding. Bri tells me that all the time she says it’s the New York pace is Is different and most confuse it with aggression. Love and respect
@@ROMsquad I love it. Like I said earlier, it’s like sitting with my family that I haven’t gotten to see since Covid so I love listening to you both. 💗
Forget for a minute the great and honest reaction. you guys are amazing the way you support one each other. like with the tissue or when you hold he's hand while he tell the story, those little things show and say a lot. love you guys
Ren is talking about generational abuse and how institutional poverty creates and maintains mental health problems, desperation and fosters continuing abuse. As you already stated; Ren has self identified his music as "Bardcore" and this was a three act Shakespearian Tragedy. The format is that of a bard telling a tale. A form of performance in music, acting and story telling that was the role of the wondering minstrel or bard; going right back through the great Bard Shakespeare himself where at the intro to each act there would be music. It goes all the way back through Greek Theatre performances of Homer's Iliad and the Odyssey and the Greek Chorus from which we get that part of the song and the synchronised dancing chorus line in the musical, the Indian Mahabharata and through to the Sumerians' Epic of Gilgamesh; and probably long before this, to some stone age man twanging on his bow to woo the Chief's daughter or to protest the Chief stealing the meat from his hunt as taxes...
You got me ngl, i came for the reaction and i got a life story. Im sorry you had to go through shit like that, im sorry you lost a friend. You're amazing, you're doin' your thing, i hope life will only bring good things for you from now on. Keep it real, keep doing what you're doing. Big hugs fam 🖤
Def react to 'Suicide' and 'For Joe' next if you want emotional. For something fun check out 'Blind Eyed (Angry Car Park Guy)' or for another two parter 'What Went Wrong' parts 1 & 2.
On a timeline we know that Violet met Stevie the Little Prick when she was 16. Presumption is Stevie got her pregnant in short order, so Violet was perhaps 17 when she died giving birth to Jenny and Screech in 2005. The father would obviously have been busted for murder and the babies would then have been remanded to state care, separated from birth by the system. Fast forward fourteen years, which is how old Screech was when he killed Jenny, who was also then only fourteen and had already walked those streets in high heeled shoes thousands of times. She had obviously had to take to being a lady of the night to get by. And she froze like her mother did while Screech rampaged like his father. Incredible story about generational abuse and violence. Interestingly the story takes place in 2019, 2005+14, which is the year he released Jenny's Tale. Screech's Tale was released about a year later. And then Violet's Tale just about a year ago. It didn't start as a trilogy, but it is seamless storytelling now. Helluva song. Blessings.