Tales From The Green Valley - May (part 9 of 12) 

I knew I recognized that voice. It was driving me crazy.

@topherh33 you aren’t speaking of morality.

Why does it matter if they speak of them in a reverential tone or not

@@JW-gl4yp When I was growing up in the US, the Puritans who settled in Plymouth Colony (in the now state of Massachusetts) were always spoken of reverentially and with great admiration, as though they were some sort of far-seeing heroes of liberty and religious freedom. It wears thin, especially once you learn enough to know what narrow-minded, censorious prigs most of them were. It's good to hear someone express a frank, non-awestruck view of them. I can admire their conviction and accept their right to be narrow-minded killjoys without paying undue reverence.

All over the world, women buy into the patriarchal ooky spooky invisible friend trope. It’s just a means of controlling the gullible, people. Oh and spoiler alert, Santa and the Easter bunny don’t exist either.

Some of my family came over in the 1600s and we've always been lovingly disrespectful of the Puritans, as my grandmother put it. "Religion hell, they wanted money," is the school of thought among their descendants. 😅

THAT DAM HAT ..........................

She really is a wonder. I love her.

simp

@@crusaderclash9437 lol

Epic jugs too

I agree, Chloe Spencer takes a great part in these episodes too. She's awesome with the horses, and her woven egg bowl looked fantastic. It's a shame she doesn't get more kudos.

I wonder how they heated their homes in Iceland?

@@eunicestone838 Peat and turves, mainly, once they ran out of wood for making charcoal. (Turves being pieces of dense turf cut out, dug up, dried, and used for fuel.) But it's not true that Iceland lacks trees just because of the climate. it's the result of human deforestation, aided and abetted by human-managed grazing animals. Check out this video for more info: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pnRNdbqXu1I.html

@@eunicestone838 I can answer that quite easily. We were shown the house of a famous Icelandic poet Viking age BTW) who built his home next to a hot spring. As well as building a sizeable bathouse around it, the spring was channeled through clay pipes laid just under the stones that made up the floor. It appears that underfloor heating has been going on for centuries!

We do that for Thanksgiving. We pour cream into a jar and give it to a friend's daughter to shake. Then she goes back to school and proudly announces to the class she made fresh butter for the holiday. It's now a tradition for her to make the Thanksgiving butter. :)

@@jessquinn6106 👍

Use a blender or a food processsor and save yourself a lot of trouble.

@@robinlillian9471 agreed 2 mins in a blender

I learned that in First Grade. We all sat in a circle and took turns shaking a jar of whipping cream. It didn't seem to take long. After pouring off the buttermilk (which was delicious btw----but quite deceptive, since I thought that the buttermilk in stores tasted like actual buttermilk. Much to my dismay, it's is nothing like it!!) the teacher added a dash of salt. Years later, when I had kids and they were bored and getting in my hair, I gave them a jar full of heavy cream, and got them to take turns shaking it until butter formed. They were so excited to make their own butter. Now I have my grandkids doing it.)

The seasons in that part of Great Britain are very much like the seasons here in south-western British Columbia.

Britain is warmer than "it should be" due to the Gulf Stream. They usually have a bit of a panic whenever it starts to snow and traffic gets "problematic". Oh and obviously the media like their "doom and gloom headlines".

If weather patterns ever change, and the Gulf Stream moves, the British Isles will be in serious trouble. In the meantime, many of us laugh at their idea of 'winter'. Granted, the damp chill is uncomfortable, but so much will grow right through the winter in many areas. Hope they appreciate that!!!

i swear they only film on days that won't damage the cameras

Hello fellow albertan!

It's because they want to keep us useless and dependent.

@@baylorsailor Um, no one is chaining you to your chair, forcing you to watch TV. Get off your a$$.

Smut and sensationalism seems to dominate most of what gets made.

匿名P4tr1k Well we do have the surname "Coleman", I wonder if that would be connected?

@@theheartoftexas I dont think so ... because "red cole" is another term for horseradish ... so its "the guy living at the horseradish field" or "selling radish".

@@theheartoftexas There is a connection, at least according to "An Etymological Dictionary of Family and Christian Names (1857) by William Arthur", it defines the surname as "A dealer or workman in coals. Gaelic, Colman, a dove."

I think Collier is another anglicised version

You can see in a subsequent series that fields like the one depicted were mostly NOT used for farming. Only in a few specific periods of desperate need.

It was probably used for planting for "The War" (WWII), otherwise used or pasture or haying or a woodlot.

You are aware this is a television program in which they have huge staff and set decorators, and people that do all the stuff that need to be done before the cast of players come on and say their line and do what ever bit of 16 Century work that needs to be demonstrated. I know it's convincing but they really never get dirty.

@@patstokes7040 Seriously? This is not a film set but an actual farm, still in use. And they are not actors so don't insult them. They are archeologists and historians with years of experience in their respective fields.

do you still miss the inch and a half of cream on the top of the milk if you were lucky enough to beat the rest of your siblings to it in the morning? Nothing like fresh cream on steaming hot oatmeal on a 20 deg below zero (F) January morning.

Oh my word! Break out the mead and we would all be on the floor by end of episode! 🤣😂🥂👍

Drink every time Stuart laughs but you can tell it's just so he doesn't shout at someone or cry from frustration 😬

Bernadette Banner? She mainly specializes in historical fashion, but also delves a bit into other historical practice.

There are plenty.

@@aimsical285 Bernadette is nothing like Ruth.

unforturnately, it's not the chemical vs organic but rather the new varieties vs ancient. Newer varieties are bred to fruit on shorter stocks which are less likely to fall over when rain soaked or in in high winds, making it easier to harvest but not so good for a straw crop, another reason why a bale of straw is now more expensive than a bale of hay

+Josh Maxson There are several sequels to this series, there's the "Victorian Farm", "Edwardian Farm", "Wartime Farm", "Tudor Monastery Farm" also there is a series on the "Victorian Pharmacy", another one called "Secrets of the Castle" a one-off special called "A Tudor Feast at Christmas" plus a few specials.

There are two more series: - "Full Steam ahead" about the evolution of the railway. Six episodes showcasing tidbits from the beginning right to the end of the steam railway. - "Victorian Bakers" which has four professional bakers baking bread as they would have in three different decades of the victorian eras. A slight warning: the middle episode is VERY depressing, because bakers were treated badly AND they started experimenting with adding some pretty awful stuff to the dough.

You would no doubt also enjoy the 'River Cottage' series. 'Escape to River Cottage', then 'Return to River Cottage', 'River Cottage Forever', etc chronicle a city dwelling chefs 'return to the land' on a smallholding, what Americans call homesteading. Though it takes place in modern times, many old traditions and time-honored approaches are used. Enjoy!

Thanks for that info! I'll definitely check it out!

There’s also the Canadian version of these, pioneer quest, quest for the bay, Klondike the quest for gold, and quest for the sea, all on amazon prime

Roma or Romany.

Romani

@@queencerseilannister3519 if you prefer.Tomayto, tomahto 🙂 My Roma (paternal lineage) ancestors didn’t much care, though they drew the line at being called Gypsies.

Someone named Ashburner i wouldnt hire to make charcoal.

@@wolf310ii 😄

People have been compiling and selling information as long as there has been a market for it.

Hit Project Gutenberg, they have digital copies of books, some nearly a millennia old.

It might have been a government movement to get people to produce a more uniform product.

You can also see poor Ruth was doing the best she could but her technique was lousy.

Yep, my mom used to make them like that.

In what way? It doesn't seem different from how they're still made today anywhere.

Triangle Field wasn’t used in the 1940’s.

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I think he's just getting cooler as he gets more famous lol

I think this one was filmed before the other ones, I think maybe they decided against his being called that in the later series :) This one is 2005, Victorian Farm was 2009, Edwardian Farm 2010 and others later on.

the other series are filled later. this is the earliest one I've seen him in. Maybe professional maturity? Fonz? There can only ever be one 'Fonz', Henry Winkler in the series 'Happy Days'

It takes the same amount of time so I don't know where you got that? I've made butter with a jar both the homegrown good natural stuff as well as the stuff sold in stores and its exactly the same. Cream is cream doesn't matter if its purchased or milked from your own cows.

I remember churning butter in wide mouth gallon jars as a kid on the farm with my mother. Watched the first ever episode of 'Gun Smoke' with James Arness one night while doing it. And yes, there IS a difference between dairy freshly harvested cream and store bought. Not to mention and based on variables due to heat, humidity and in-particular seasonal pasturing (feed), etc.. We had a wonderful old Jersey cow who gave milk at almost 1/3 cream. She was wonderful to milk in cold weather as she didn't mind you sticking your hands up between her utter and leg to warm them. She knew who her friends were. Always gave her extra shorts to snack on while milking. I hated the cream separator tho. Too hard to work and clean. Used to let the milk stand/separate, then skim.

@@kaylaa8092 Have a lot of intimate time in with dairying do you?

Kayla A that’s just not true at all, that cream is cream. Cream is wildly different between older heritage breeds of cows and more modern cows used at stores. In fact they actually have different molecules in them and also it sits in the milk differently. Some cream more easily separates, etc. Also, pasteurized cream is very very different from raw. Raw never really goes bad, but clabbers, where as pasteurized is starting to decompose.

Wow! LoL The amount if time is the same, as long as it has the normal high fat content (only an twit would try using 2%) Also. They are using way more milk than a tiny Mason jar, and it is from their cows so will be fresh and unpasteurised.

To make butter you have to separate the cream from the milk. Then you beat the cream to butter. You may make butter yourself by buying cream in the shop and beat it to butter. If you want cheese, you add rennin to the milk and let it ferment for some hours,- like you write.

I think cultured butter is a different flavor product, not necessarily one that keeps longer. I can't find definitive information on it, but my impression is that people use cultured butter for the tangy flavor and no other reason.

The farm began in 1987 after investing some money the original group received for doing some living history displays. It continues to this day but has to follow strict planning laws, so people aren’t permitted to sleep in any of the buildings, but with over 30 small fields spread over a hillside there’s plenty of camping under the “not more than 14 days continuous/not more than 28 days in a year” rule. They keep animals there so someone has to visit daily.

@@billiebluesheepie2907 oh how neat! Thanks so much for the information! That would be a dream of mine to camp there!

I think Collier is, maybe?

Chloe actually shooed the dog.

Bit like yoghurt...

You're thinking of coal, not charcoal. Coal will kill you, charcoal will not.

+Aimee Hite Well then, tell me why it is the number one suicide method in used Korea. And people do die here using it to warm the house. They both will kill. co2 stops the oxygen bonding to the red blood cells. Really, I have studied this well.

+John Loftus Coal burns "dirty" as in it actually leaves dirt and smuts everywhere that charcoal doesn't. "Burning clean" is a different thing than creating CO2. Burning ANYTHING in an unventilated space and no decent chimney will kill you as the fire uses up the oxygen and the CO2 created by breathing and the fire will suffocate someone eventually. People probably block the cooling ventilation to keep the heat in, even with cloth, not realising its trapping the CO2

+Catherine Cook Yes, that's how people die here when it gets cold. Charcol inside with the windows shut. But the government is informing people so it's getting better. They sit outside in front of the burner with blankets now.

The whole point is that you STILL NEED A CHIMNEY to make it work and the air supply to keep it burning. So the evil thing which kills is not the charcoal but rather the lack of air and a bad/uncontrolled airflow.

Lala Lee - Your thoughtfulness is charming. However, the animals don't need humans. They were not - unlike too many dogs these days (and some cats) - raised to fill a human role in a human household, but they were each allowed to be what they are. We humans often think that the highest, best way to treat an animal is as if it was a human. Or nearly so. We instinctively understand that treating a child like a dog, (or swine, or cattle, etc) is wrong. Why is it so difficult for us to understand that treating a dog - or cattle, sheep, swine, horses, etc - like a child, as though they were something they are NOT, is equally unkind to the animal? While these animals, especially the cow and perhaps the ponies, became accustomed to frequent handling by people, and these particular people, they were not 'imprinted' on humans. They were not confused about what species they are, nor did they think they and the humans were the same species - like hand-reared birds, for instance. There is no need to be concerned about these animals after these people left this farm.

There is no scientific test to prove the safety of foods like the long traditional use of those foods. Nearly all food in 'First World' countries is now contaminated with synthetic chemicals - from man-made chemical herbicides, insecticides, fungicides, and chemical fertilizers and/or chemical preservatives, colourings, conditioning agents (like in bread), anti-caking agents, flavor enhancers... And chemical transferred from packaging, yes, even 'food grade' plastics leach or transfer harmful chemicals via contact to the foods and beverages in them. Not to mention the obscene amount of sugar, in various forms, added to nearly every processed or packaged food. Since humans evolved with very little sugar (or starch) in their diets, and NONE of the synthetic chemicals we are all now bombarded with, especially in the USA. Tests there have found glyphosate (Monsanto's Round-Up herbicide) in breast milk, and rain - and every stream and pond in the Midwest region. Upwards of 200 synthetic chemicals have been found in the cordblood of every newborn baby tested. (The young of humans.) These pretty much all concern me more than any traditional food, traditionally handled.

It is unlikely that these people were prisoners on the farm. Their families may have come to visit them there. Obviously, they had each other for comapny. Researchers who go to Antarctica over winter are there with little or no contact with families for 6 months or more. There are many other examples. Neither animals nor people are really all that fragile 'emotionally'. For the most part, even our cats and dogs do not *need* us as much as we are flattered to think they do. As long as they are fed, watered, have access to shelter and some companionship, they are generally fine. It is usually we humans who need our dogs and cats to make us feel like we are needed and wanted, especially those of us without strong social bonds among our own kind. Which is not to suggest that bonds between people and animals do not exist, but usually if an animal has been socialized with or accustomed to people, it will quickly adapt to other people. Very quickly.

@@Jefferdaughter I think the only one that may have an issue is that black horse. That horse seems to have really come around and gotten attached.

Nothing in this series indicates that these people were living on the farm full time for a year. I'm pretty sure they're there for only a short time, long enough to film the episode. (Look closely and you'll see the lead woman has a lovely manicure, and they all have perfect complexions. None of them looks worn enough to actually be enduring such harsh conditions.)

I came here to find out about this !!! In the last episode he was born and a scene later he was served ! I hope we see him again and it’s not the case - but I understand it’s the way of things and I really love this show.

That was his nickname from before, and since he and Alex are long time friends, it probably still is 🤷🏼‍♀️

They also pointed out that the design is essentially the same as from their time period.