Some of the Videos used in the compilation are pretty old now, and I've changed my thinking on some of the lore here, especially with Alien Romulus out now. Even so, I still like looking back on how thoughts on the Engineers have changed with time....thanks for watching everyone!!
Ehh Prometheus was going in that direction and xenomorph fanboys cried cause there was no space Slasher flick in that movie and the concept still escaped them.
@@mattyrolph8429 I trust them to do it but it depends how it’ll be presented I don’t think Ridley Scott want to draw too much attention to the engineers. Im recently a new comer to the franchise and I watched them all I believe the engineers story is done I think Ridley told his story. The engineers presence is around and I don’t see the need for them to make a prequel simply cause it wouldn’t add anything to the future of the franchise unless it’s necessary which 7 movies in I don’t think it’ll happen.
I think there are no “bad engineers”. My theory is that there is two groups of engineers, the ones who use the black goo to manipulate life, and possibly their own bodies or dna as the engineer in Prometheus clearly has some sort of mutation causing changes to their bodies, bio-mechanically, as seen in the differences between the 2 engineers in Prometheus. Then there are the ones who don’t participate in the creation or destruction or manipulation of life and live a more civilian lifestyle like we saw in covenant. Planet 4 residents did not know what transpired with the group that was killed off (the engineers in the juggernaut ship by an unexplained action), my guess is the black goo was exposed and made its rounds causing all engineers on the ship to die. That’s why the planet 4 residents don’t seem afraid when David returns in a familiar ship. If rumors and original scripts are to be believed engineers sent an emissary which was killed by humans, therefore the species as a whole probably agreed to the destruction of man. For me it seems they made a miscalculation or mistake rather than some sort of civil war. And you said the creator confirmed P4 residents to be engineers, which killed my other theory of them not even being full engineers just a more perfect version of their creation. ❤️🔥
The deeper meaning of the franchise is that the humans are the dangerous “aliens”. Humans are the only beings to kill Engineers, Predators, Xenomorphs and other humans. The humans usually trespass and the other species defend against them. The engineers were essentially outsmarted by their own creations, similar to how the Androids eventually outsmart and kill the humans in the franchise. It’s brilliant foreshadowing
te xeno is mirroring US our self destructive ways and our dark future: to be the menace of the galaxy, in case we ever discover either warp prpul. or hypersleep
theyd stand no chance...bro the engis MADE OUR FABRIC on their fkn "fruit of the loom" loom xD, just imagine HOW much further they r advanced its almost comical...they wouldnt sport ANY "weapons" our very limited imagination could think of. No terminator 5 Nano particles forming an animate object...something even beyond that...theyd, idk..simply pack us into a stasis and envelope us with a pocket of spacetime fabric lol^^ or shit like that... MAGIC for us amoeba like creatures to them
what makes more sense is that Epimetheus is the engineer who drinks the black goo on earth and dies and Prometheus is the engineer on his way to earth to evolve the humans who were the mistake Epimetheus created by not making them capable of living properly.
the vases would definitely just like destroy all life on the planet, maybe have some weird bug evolutions like an earthworm to a hammerpede. any evolution would be a violent nightmare really but i think the humans will just die mostly
Hello and firstly thank you for your videos. I find them very interesting. I’m actually very glad that Scott took this shift into the lore. I am certain many great films and possibly series will result from them. I find this Alien franchise annoyingly entertaining!
I always assumed the engineers were using us to study evolution like an ancestors simulator and when we got to a stage of development where we were going to be able to be competition for them they decided to take us out before we could get there
There is an other option. The paintings could be a warning instead of an invetation, only humanity lost the knowledge to understand the messeage of it.
That's True but in my head it's probably either due to it being the closest part of their civilization to humanity or it wasn't used as a military base at the time of the drawings.
Did the "engineer" do what he did when he sacrificed himself, planting the seed of all life on earth or only the seed of humanity? Whatever the case, there is another unclear matter, life or humans on Earth evolved on Earth until they were able to reach a stage that enabled them to reach the Engineer's homeland, while the latter remained as it was for millions of years
There’s no way the population David killed are engineers. They do not have the signature black eyes and super pale skin. I believe they are still out there and I wonder if the one portrayed on the head statue is their world leader or something. That guy must still be out there.
I can't get over the fact how bad Engineers look in Covenant compared to Prometheus. I literally did not figure out they were Engineers when watching the movie. I thought they were some slave species of the Engineers or whatever and even this channel I believe hypothesized about them not being Engineers :D
Yeah, most fans want them to be a seed race of the engineers. Scott said they are engineers, and my theory is that the larger engineers have used the pathogen to augment themselves. That said, in covenant itself, the movie, they didnt come out and call them engineers, so another film could change that.
I dont think they looked bad, they had a very specific cool vibe to me. But yeah they didnt look line engineers at all, they really did look like a weaker verison of them, or more primitive
@@aguspuig6615 They looked like humans with white powder on their face. I was never a huge fan of how they made Engineers look in the first place., but at least in the first movie their look seemed like it had some money behind it. You did get a sense that these beings might be from somewhere else....
@@scifiexplained thankx for the reply. Your channel is my favorite Alien related channel :3 Yeah Covenant to me personally was a really bad movie and I kind of lost my interest in the whole franchise. That being said the more time has passes the lower my opinion gets of Prometeus. When I first saw Prometeus I had mixed feelings, but I kind of thought it was an interesting movie. It left a lot of questions and there were a lot of aspects I didn't like. Covenant was cringe and I have to say I don't like the lore that is involved with both movies. There was so many possibilities to explore.
Hello... :D I don't know if you consider requests like this (and this is my first time finding your channel so you may already do this in other uploads)... but would you consider doing a 'common knowledge / overview' of the main things you are talking about before getting into the video? I don't know anything at all about this franchise, so for example, what an engineer vs alien vs predator is. I just still like watching stuff like this regardless of if I'm already interested in the main subject. I like the video still and subscribed :D ty if you consider, hope u have a great day~
I have a few theories but another theory i like to believe that the different factions of engineers use the bio mechanical technology and the gold goo like a royal jelly to mutate that body into its designated task the bio mechanical side of it genetically changes the body before its exposed to the goo and depending on the amount used can obviously have drastic results on the body hence why we see different kinds of engineers like the mal'kak (probably butchered the spelling) and space jockys. This could further be reinforced by the decon on the wall as it seems likt it could be interpreted as apart of the structure its self like one with the hive which the engineers took inspiration from with the biomechanical technology, and the gold goo is like Royal jelly which the decon used in varying amounts to change other decons into having different roles, like gurad, warrior etc. (thats half of it anyway probably has a few holes but im too tired to edit it)
I hope they do a very cryptic approach from here on out, like the first movie but better planned out. Where we only see "artifacts" of these pre-quels from here on out. Like Egyptian tombs being uncovered, remnant aliens very old a brittle still alive etc..
So basically Ridley Scott is plagiarizing history channel's ancient aliens. I watched those for wild entertainment and all of it is straight out of the show
They need to somehow relate the biomechanical nature of the pathogen/Xenos and the engineers. I like the angels of death comic with them being basically a great filter. Maybe engineers are ones that passed this filter? Engineers Reverse engineering tech of the space jockey? If the xenos are a great filter & can adapt to anything, do they have access to space travel in more higher stages of xeno hive development? I like the idea of David trying to copy a xeno but the engineers could also be doing the same thing? Maybe the xenos are created by engineers & wipe them out then became a angel of death? Also it’s not a bad idea for the xenos just being a species that naturally occurs that is a great filter that is fundamentally a universal direct result of how life is made giving a reason why there is no life found in the universe.
It affects every living thing, but according to David, it had a unique reaction to Humans that allowed him to tweak the organism to be aggressive and survive.
So basically the original script was a copy of The Lost Book of Enki. 😄 If you have read this book you’ll understand why they didn’t go for that script… Shame… it would have been much better, but perhaps in a trilogy!
I'm pretty sure the planet 4 beings are not engineers and Ridley Scott said as much but I could be wrong. And I've always disliked the idea that the engineers wanted to wipe out humans because we were violent or killed their messenger/Jesus. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-06MgTvpEHB0.htmlsi=J9a-TABMyWgnrxG1
Kroft bases alot of his stuff off of a fake script that no other youtubers or websites believe is real. Some of what he says is verified to be wrong. Scott said in interviews the planet 4 people are engineers, and actors who played them were interviewed by avpgalaxy and said they were told they were engineers. Kroft is the cancer of the alien community, there are posts on his misinformation on many alien fan forums and websites...ive even talked with people at fox who laughed about his b.s. lies. its all clickbait, he's the only one talking about what he talks about, cause the real community that acually interviews people from the films, know he's full of crap.
@scifiexplained I mean, he raises some good points. The planet 4 beings have whites in their eyes. They are considerably shorter, and their skin is not as smooth and marble like as those found on LV-223. I think hiding information from people is never a good thing. People should have all the information and make their own decisions. Kroft is my favorite alien youtuber, so maybe that makes me biased. idk. But at the very least, these beings have to be different species they're similar but not the same thing Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals.
I see the point, it was nothing new....the whole fan community wanted them to be a seed race, even i do, but the facts are there in interviews. As for their differences, maybe the lv223 engineers are simply "engineered" for space travel and combat. they show traits of the pathogen...blackend eyes, xeno body armor, increased size and strength, rage. We also see both large and small engineers together during the seeding of earth with the older ones. They are also very old, and may groups who evolved differently on other worlds....there are tons of ideas, especially with the goo...but i can't ignore what the director and the actors said. A lot of the engineer backstory is messed up, it had 2 writers, with totally different ways to coming at it, and a studio and director that kept changing it up. Romulus is even trying to fix it with some of its lore. Scott talked about the jesus thing in interviews too, its mentioned briefly in an older script, but scott took it out.
@scifiexplained the group of beings on early earth were all the same height and there was no reference to compare them too if I remember correctly but I'll have to take another look but if they've changed this much from one another due to evolution then they're no longer the same being like dogs and wolves
The Xenomorph created the Engineers, who seeded life on Earth as part of a reproduction cycle unknown to humanity,who are not suppose to have anything to do with them
