Tales of the Jedi Full Breakdown and Review 

I thought it could have been interesting, but it was way too rushed, and the themes and dialogue were way too overt. Everyone just spelled out how they felt, and Dooku was just like, “Okay.” There were some good moments, but they didn’t really give it time to breath

I loved that Palpatine portrayal, easily one of the best and serious depictions of him.

@@thedapperdolphin1590 they used the tell don't show because it's a show with a younger target demographic. Kids won't be able to pick up on subtle messages. Like, for example, we were shown Ahsoka training against clones and any older fan knows the point of being shown that is to show that that ultimately saved her life during Order 66, but kids need to be shown it or else they won't pick up on it. Same with Dooku leaving because of corruption in the senate and the Jedi playing into the hands of it all, it has to be said so the younger audience understands, but it was still done organically and does not take away from the episodes whatsoever. Meanwhile, I am loving Andor, though, and its catering to an older audience

Wow Dooku was the Master Jedi who erased Kamino records the Jedi was blind and too arrogant to believe that the Sith had returned

@@shannonlamar6890 Yep, he was Master Sypho Dyas from Attack of the Clones.

Or a full novel (or another Jedi Lost style audio drama).

@@Jedi_Spartan_38 personally not a fan of reading or audio books, I'm more of a visual guy

@@Jedi_Spartan_38 Jedi Lost rocks socks. I will easily eat up more good Dooku content.

This is the way!

@@jelof21 You should keep an open mind about them, honestly two of the ultimate forms of human entertainment and incredibly satisfying. But yes more Dooku animation please!

Go listen to Dooku: Jedi Lost. It's really good.

@@RuffledOnTime second that, and would add master and apprentice by Claudia gray. It touches on dooku and his padawans Aveross and Jinn

2nd and 3rd both of those recommendations. Dooku is such a tragic character because things could have been so difficult. He leaves for "noble" goals and even if he is doing what he thinks needs to be done, he causes a lot of death and destruction.

I think Anakin would have been a grat Jedi if he wasn't manipulated and dismissed so often. Once he fell he fell hard though. Irredeemable really.

Correction he would have been the best Jedi

@@colonagray2454 yeah he was grimes ever since he was a padawan seeing palp as his father figure

And he unintentionally trained the 501st to fight against jedi, and also Ahsoka to fight against clones.

It's fitting that one of the only Jedi not killed by Order 66 was trained by the man who spear headed it.

Yes! This exactly, Dooku doesn't recoil from the Light, but when it goes out he embraces the Dark, because that's he feels that's all there is. Which brings to mind Vader's words "No. This is all there is." when rejecting redemption and corrupting his kyber crystal.

Mace is really not coming off well in the more recent stories involving him 😂 turning away Ahsoka from an important holo meeting in S7 of TCW cos shes "not a Jedi" and now showing his blind Dogma here

I do like that Clone Wars depiction of Mace but tbf I could never imagine the movie-version of Mace being so subdued and submissive to the Council's bidding and rules. I mean he was first played by Samuel L Jackson and in those movies he was nothing like the Mace from the Clone Wars. I don't mind, but he's definitely a lot less badass than from the movies/2003 cartoon. It is interesting though how he just lets Dooku disobey the rules so he can get the chair position and then just mock his behaviour.

Agreed

Exactly

same lol, it was a huge surprise and i actually didnt know that yaddle… was killed by dooku :(

Actually he wasn't part of the Order during the episode. But he was still welcomed to visit the Temple since he left the Order in peace to become the Count of Serenno.

@@thewayseekingjedi4336 Ohhh that makes sense. Because I thought the episode had contradicted Master & Apprentice

@@comrademoshi1028 it hadn’t been confirmed until this show. Yaddle was on the high council in the movies ep 1, but not ep 2. People asked where she went, and now we have an answer: she found out Sidious’ plans and died trying to save a friend from falling to the dark side.

I do not remember where I first read it, perhaps some Fandom website a few months ago (or the Darth Plagueis novel which for some inconceivable reason is not canon), but it was mentioned that Qui-gon's death affected him profoundly, and was a decisive factor in making him leave the Jedi Order.

I loved it was the same move she used on the 7th sister

I have to agree 😊🎉

top tier samurai fight

That was so satisfying to watch. It was literally dodge, dodge, grab the lightsaber, downward swing, done.

but why did his head deflate?

The Jedi order wasn’t corrupt, it’s fate was connected to the fate of the corrupt senate. From a stoic perspective, the Jedi’s all died honourable deaths and suffered honourably in exile and persecution

I think in the end we see that the Jedi aren't corrupt, but badly complacent. Dooku accuses them of taking orders from the senate, but that's untrue: even in his stories every single tale has other Jedi besides himself see the plight the galaxy is going through and immediately agree with him that something must be done against the Senate (even Mace's response is "we need to do something, but we have to do it by the book," while Dooku just goes Dirty Harry). His conclusion that the Jedi are under the senate's thumb is misplaced. The truth is that the Jedi simply don't bother to understand the galaxy enough to actually know these things are happening in the first place - they cautiously sit on their laurels, rarely investigate problems, and act behind their excuse that they "don't' do politics" and thus don't actually engage, so instead they get taken by surprise whenever something horrible is dropped into their lap. Their oath to protect the people becomes useless because they don't know the people any more. The Jedi *would* go to bat for the common people against the Senate if they were aware of what's going on, but they're too distant from the rest of the galaxy to even become aware of these injustices most of the time, so they do nothing and the rest of the galaxy sees them as complicit rather than more truthfully ignorant to the problem (that the Jedi aren't aware that the rest of the galaxy has a poor opinion of them is a thing in The Clone Wars as well).

@@TheRealCodeBlack the Jedi are not all powerful, they are not in control of the galaxy. Jedi are challenged to accept fate while working towards defined preferences, sometimes against insurmountable odds. They are not responsible for social or galactic outcomes, only their own thoughts and actions as individuals

@@calmxi would you say a new recruit out to make a difference by enforcing the laws and providing safety to the community but is who's led by police captain in the mobs wallet is not corrupt? That recruit could be doing what he think is right and just but is just following orders from a captain who does the mobs will. By extension it makes the recruit corrupt?

Did this series depict the Jedi order as corrupt? If anything it shows the very opposite. Mace is true to protocols and rules to a fault, and that is the flaw in the Jedi order and that is the opposite of corruption. Even higher up in the ranks of the Jedi, we see Yaddle our representatives of the council on this series is anything but corrupt and possesses the true spirit of a Jedi. She is forgiving, courageous, selfless and gentle. The problem with the Jedi order is not corruption, but dogma.

Yeah

I recommend the Dooku novel if you haven't read it already. If you're not in a reading, audible is an option, the audio feels like a movie. You see a lot of Dooku's life as a Padawan, his biological family, first brushes with the dark side, training his own padawans, his disenchantment with the Jedi, his first brush with the dark side, when he leaves the order and becomes a count, etc

The clone wars show went deep into his story.

I lost $5 cause I’d bet we’d see Ahsoka’s 😭 Seriously hope we get that in the future

Totally agree

This is exactly my take as well. Huge Ahsoka fan, but the Dooku stuff was more compelling overall.

@@ReiHerandez They were ALL fantastic overall and amazing as a whole! The sith lord was the best episode but they were ALL phenomenal 10/10 episodes entirely for a FANTASTIC short series!

I think Qui-Gon was a Jedi Knight in the second episode. He didnt have a Padawan braid

@@toy.art_8672 Probably, not entirely sure.

I really don't get why she's so well liked. Hell I don't even know why I like her.

Great line by the Grand Inquisitor

I thought of that too, really adds another sense of danger that all the Sith really need do to lure out a Jedi is what they do best, create fear.

Felt so random though and unnecessary. After brilliant stuff like Andor it felt really out of place and unneeded. Only good thing for me was hearing Ian again as Palpatine, nice shots of coruscant and the Jedi archives

@@obiwankenobi687 Funny, I hear Andor is incredibly slow and boring, the worst Star War ever put to screen. A total waste of time. /s 😉

@@MunificentSunbeam they’re usually heavily drunk at the time of speaking

@@obiwankenobi687 No doubt true, but my point being that not every show is for everyone. On person's delight is another person's disgrace. I believe in a big tent for Star Wars.

@@obiwankenobi687 just be grateful man

I was crying some very happy tears when the older Togruta said the whole “Jedi. Ahsoka is Jedi.” line. Like yes. She is. And she’ll be so much more influential than any of us could’ve imagined. Love it

Yup,sounds just like his dad.

@@russellmarsden6316 that’s right!

My only issue with this is that all we ever see her do is get up again and again. Maybe Anakin could have actually given her some tips, or strategies? Maybe he would have if these weren't so short!

I loved that despite how Anakin helped bring down the Jedi, he also helped to save his padawan, too. He was a difficult teacher who loved so fiercely that he made everyone work so hard to be their best. As a parent, I can relate to wanting that (I promise I haven't made my children fight squads of soldiers armed with stun weapons). I wonder how this might tie into any flashbacks with Anakin in the new Ahsoka show.

Yeah that was by far the best episode for me. I really liked the Dooku stuff but because it's so short, everything happens quickly and the message becomes a bit too heavy handed.

How has no one noticed that young Kanan Jarus was in that episode

@@chrisstaley7626 I did. And I loved it

That would make for an interesting fanfic!

Considering the timeline it could have been possible.

@PurpleOwlAnimation nope he only ever encountered obi wan and Anakin, Ahsoka was always on another assignment

Thought the same thing

@@beni2cc I think it was confirmed that the Ahdokabook scene is a completely different one.

@@beni2cc As I said, they didn't. It's a different scene. EK Johnston herself said that. TotJ is completely unrelated to the Ahsoka novel.

@@beni2cc It's not the same Inquisitor. She fought that Inquisitor, then later she fought the sixth brother. 😅

If he gets one I hope we also seem him as a sith and perhaps even get an on-screen backstory for grievous because I've always wanted to see his backstory outside of the comics

agree! and the little things like jesse shooting her first... really affecting

How do you know Yaddle isn't talking weirdly for their species?

That was already known in Canon

Ketamine addiction

Thought it was just cause he was so old that Basic was different? Would be like comparing 1500’s super formal English to 1990-2010 West Coast slang English.

@@mattshelton7423 Ywsh, but there are way older people who talk "normal"

and his head deflated.

The music, the cinematography and everything else was a 10 but the fight was....underwhelming. would have loved to see just a little bit more altercation than a one sided fight tbh

Yeah I feel we do still really need those stories on screen, Son of Dathomir and Dark Disciple especially! While the books were a good alternative for the time, I feel like in this era a limited series or special presentation for these storylines would really help fill in the gaps! I really wouldn’t turn down the rest of the last few arcs being finished too but those two are definitely the most important!

It’s very weird as I’m pretty sure most of this episode is set during Season 3 and by that point we’ve already seen Jesse with his 501st markings

It was absolutely heartbreaking.

IMO H says that because he needed Qui Gon to help save him. He was probably the only person that cpuld have prevented Dooku from further evil

Yeah, I was actually disappointed with Alex and Mollie’s comments about the Ahsoka episodes because they seemed so dismissive. They are, of course, welcome to their opinions, as are we all. But statements akin to “I didn’t need X” open the door for the purveyors of… let’s just call it bad faith arguments.

Or you should just stop bring a need and just enjoy the freaking show. None of the books are cannon to the streaming shows or movies.

Hopefully a future story will explain it. So far, the book has never been declared non-canon.

I'd assume he bled his own cause why wouldn't he ?

@@-Maxi.exe03 i think in the comics Sidious tells Vader that a Sith lightsaber Crystal must be “taken.” So I wonder if maybe he would have told Dooku the same thing.

too much space magic makes talking a bit redundant