Tali's RAREST HIDDEN DIALOGUE in Mass Effect 2 Legendary Edition (Horizon, Recruiting Garrus, Etc) 

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Well that really sucks, tali is an absolute fav of mine!!

Yes I Hope Like That,Because Horizon Mission Is Difficult

They should of re added it into legendary!

But it was 2 disc game. Maybe making a 3 or 4 disc would’ve been better to see and actually feel like you have freedom to play the game

Honestly, that is probably exactly why certain characters are not available until the end. Such as talking to Liara isn’t available until after Horizon when Illium gets unlocked. If Liara was available beforehand, less people would feel the desire to cheat on her as they’d feel guilty since there’s no excuse of not knowing where she is or where you stand. Likewise, if Tali joined after Freedom’s Progress, there’s not only the compelling idea of literally only using Garrus and Tali for the rest of the game and no one else, but also the reluctance to recruit anyone else after. I feel like they wanted to have Tali available from the start which is why she’s on Freedom’s Progress, but ultimately decided to go a different route and have you recruit her later. It does make sense that she would be kept for later but also serves as a nice introduction to Mass Effect 2 by giving you someone you actually know and trust and teasing you with the potential of getting her later because you know she’s in the game at the very least.

Same thing happened with me. I had Miranda, then recruited Kasumi and used nobody else because they were so awesome INCLUDING Suicide mission I had them doing pretty much all the work - Tech Kasumi, both fire teams Miranda, final boss Kasumi and Miranda, during the biotic shield walk held by Samara I had Kasumi on my team. I actually think that if I recruited only Mordin, Jacob, Samara, Miranda and Kasumi - I could do suicide mission already. Kasumi to the vents while Miranda as the Fire leader with Samara and Mordin on my team on my team. Then Samara with Shepard, Kasumi and Jacob go through the seeker swarms while mordin escorts and Miranda does distraction and finally taking Kasumi and Miranda to the final boss while Samara and Jacob hold the line. (You get Miranda and Jacob immediately. You gotta recruit Mordin for seeker swarms - which proves kinda useless anyways. So the only ones I would recruit actually based on my choice are Samara and Kasumi. All others are expendable and pointless.)

@@Dark_Voice If it was only Samara and Jacob holding the line I guarantee one, if not both, would've died. I did everything I could've correctly except for the very end where I let Zaeed lead the second fire team. Even with everyone's loyalty, he died. And even after that, the universe decided to kill Tali right at the very end of the game with only one lost character (I guess I did make a second mistake, I think I brought another "strong" character with me to the final boss). All in all, it probably wouldn't end that great for your ideal small suicide squad. also i did completely restart the suicide mission to make sure i didnt lose anyone because it hurt too much to lose people

Good point.

@@Dark_Voice everyone else expendable and pointless? Not only does the entire mass effect community disagree with u but ur also just dead wrong lmao. So many good characters ur overlooking

Right they did her a dirty in 2 and 3. She literally doesn't even become a squad mate until after halfway in 3.

@@kendaldk5634 some assholes wanted to scrap her out entirely as a squad mate in 3 too

@@coletrainhetrick I never knew that. I do know the dev team for 3 was full of idiots. I don't know if you've ever romanced thane on any playthough, but they changed thanes writer in 3 and his story is a mess. It's honestly still a mess even if you don't romance him.

@@coletrainhetrick burn them all

@@coletrainhetrick It's Mac Walters and Michael Gamble.... they are both huge Liara puppies so they wanted to scrap Tali out. Look at Miranda and Jack, hence why Liara gets so much more in-screen and content, it's REALLY a pain in the ass. They even didn't gave a shit about Drew's idea for the Dark Energy that you learn from Tali Recruit Mission. ME3 was supposed to be really different. Hate those guys. Karpynshyn was SO MUCH better.

Indeed, I always think that he would have been a better grunt, i.e. the imperfect krogan who proved his maker wrong.

EXACTLY.. SAME WITH OKEER Ngl I wanted to see a bit more of Okeer in the background... Like if he was part of our crew to help us manage Grunt or something. The way he said grunt before he dies and he seemed proud like he looked at Grunt as somewhat of a son.

There should have been a Shadow Broker dossier.

Late to the party but I'm pretty sure he lives rent free in his own head lmao.

Grunt is no longer among the living.

That's why she is the best. sweet and innocent at times but they sexy bad girl at others.

Tali allways spoke for the renegade option in ME1 if you brought Liara or Kaiden along. All characters in ME1 were on a spectrum between paragon and renegade to check which of your two teammates took favour in what option. If I remember correctly the order was: Paragon - Liara

@@LuriTV Moreover, you could sway some squadmates more into paragon or renegade depending on your dialogue choices. And because there always has to be one in favour of paragon and one in favour of renegade, it's actually possible to have Wrex pleading to spare the Rachni.

@@GTAVictor9128 who do you have to take to get that dialogue? I mean, aside from Wrex, obvi

@@paigestubbs9718 Ashley I believe, provided you did sway Wrex into paragon and didn't sway Ashley. By default, the moral ranking of your squadmates from most paragon to most renegade is this: Kaiden, Liara, Tali, Garrus, Asley, Wrex. I'm not exactly sure whether Kaiden or Liara take first place, but I'm fairly confident about the rest.

Dan has been very reputable so far

@@HispanicAlucard it depresses me that average youtube content is so bad that “truthful titles” is a rare trait of content creators

@@DanQZ this is not MrBossWTF, mind you

"Shepard, I knew you would...WHAT THE BOSHTET?!"

Only a genius would think of it, so you sir are beyond genius.

Shepard: This place is a geth infested oven. Let's leave, this was a waste of time. Tali: Why did we even go here in the first place? Lieutenant Veetor six days later: IMA KILL THAT COLOSSUS! KEELA SA L....oh no my rocket launcher got fried by the sun....

Good sir you are a genius

@@ingydegmar2060 kal'reegar. veetor is the one from freedom's progress

Yes, I just did this and got the same result.

Miranda says something almost identical to tali. Which i thought was interesting.

Zaeed says about the same on occasion.

Only if Jack's commentary 'priority' isn't overidden by the other squaddie. e.g. If Jacob is present, Jack can't make that comment. Jacob's disapproving comment overrides Jack's.

Shepard: * Tries to be friends with Thane * * Says something to him * Thane: * Praying or some shit *

Thane was like "Why tf are you asking me about this? It's all new to me!"

Thane is keeping his mouth closed because he's scared a Seeker will fly into his mouth. he had a bad experience with a bee once...

you would expect grunt or wrex to say that

@@bruhgod123 lol lol that’s true you would . That’s why tali has always been my favorite romance , you see her more than anyone else out of all the women

@@bruhgod123 This is the reason why Tali is Wrex's favorite quarian 🤣

Back in the day arguing which is worse. After all these years and a few fresh playthrough, both of them kinda suck haha

Seriously, their pride must be through the roof

Yeah, even without Tali in the squad that was really annoying to me the first few times i played through me2 .... Finally once I realized there was literally no way they could actually be friendly in that reunion, I just had to move on. But that was a tough pill to swallow

@@andrewsercer9538 eating bread behind a tough pill makes it easier to swallow. If you had eaten bread after the scene, you'd have been able to move on right away.

@@bw4348 actually I think I just need a bigger throat. Time for surgery.

Wish that had been a possible dialogue option. Sounds like something Renegade/Renegon Shepard would say

@@jordanwilliams676 It might have been too much of a 4th wall break. Jenkins and the Omega youth were both voiced by Josh Dean.

@@LordBloodraven damn, I never noticed that they both have a same voice

My favourite is with Grunt and Garrus for that mission. On Jack’s unveiling Grunt goes ‘Jack is smol.’ lol

Literally heard that today

Tali and Garrus don't really have anything to say to Wrex or Liara either. Which is a huge bummer if you ask me.

Ah another intellectual nice to know there's others

Finally a man of quality lol

Im 2 years late but its good to see fellow men of culture

Not on Freedom's Progress. You were simply allowed to do her recruitment mission at the start.

At first plan was to allow you to recruit everyone in whichever order you want, It's XBOX not having blue ray fault, back then consoles were still a thing you put disc in and play rather than install it first so they had only one option if they wanted to release it on 360, and that's redesingning game to make it more linear, thus making it possible to split it in two discs. Every post horizon squadmate have hidden dialogue, which only proves that it was a very late in development decision to change it.

Not realizing how that requires multiple reworks to how main story progression works as well as balancing

@@Ikcatcher Well if its a mod then balancing is kinda whatever, as long as Horizon and the collector ship missions still becoming available it wouldnt change too much. And for those they would really just have to find a way for the missions to trigger after a certain number of completed missions. Still not easy but certainly possible if the modder is skilled enough and takes their time.

Check out the Early Recruitment mod for ME2 www.nexusmods.com/masseffect2/mods/384

@@kevinkotysz6998 that is great! I will definitely check it out in my next run!

The only real problem i see with this is the dialogue in ME3 when Garrus and Tali talk about most difficult mission, Garrus mentions Horizon and Tali says she didn't joined yet. It would just require to disable that part of the conversation when she says she didn't joined yet. Other than that every single bit of dialogue is already in the game so they could do it now that they're not limited by 360's memory. It would certainly give a fresh experience.

I hope you're doing well.

She's trying to be the player 2 to Garrus's player 1 role, both trying to usurp Shepard.

No it was just originally everyone could be recruited in any order

@@willbaker6532 Yeah, but it would be really hard to justify why you can bring Tali onto your team in less than a day of research on Haelstrom.

@@willbaker6532 Wasnt Shepard originally supposed to be found by Geth and Tali + Legion would be your first squad mates? I think even Legion has all complete dialogue in the beginning.

@@willbaker6532 Recruit Legion first, play the entire game with no crew.

You can have a pretty decent amount of time with Legion if you don’t mind getting the Normandy’s crew dissolved.

@@AsuraBoss the only squad mate you really need is tali for the barrier upgrade. In my recent run, I ignored thane and samara and still managed to have everyone alive. You could also ignore zaeed, so that you do his LM with legion. Thats still little, but everyone from the second wave recruitment is basically done dirty.

Just save DLC and stuff for post game and you can do a lot with Legion.

@@BrianMcKee or just use Trigger Buttons mod,.so you can have literally many plot missions at your will

I agree. You never get to use Legion. Get him right at the end of the game and if you do anything with him, you get a bad ending

She doesn't sound like Russian. Her accent is more Indian or something like that.

@@grunt7917 Interestingly, a fanfiction I read recently described Tali's accent (and by extension, all Quarians) as Romani, i.e. "gypsy". A few minutes of forum searching said the VA was going for an Eastern European accent, which I would say definitely qualifies.

@@grandadmiralthrawn92 Eastern Europe is a broad term. As much as I’d like to say that she sound Russian too, she sounds more Indian or Romanian, considering the cultural context of quarians.

I always assumed the connection was to Gypsies. Similar to the Quarians in that they're migratory and usually despised by the other ethnicities.

In ME4 she'll probably have an Adidas enviro-suit

Well, if you wear enviromental suit anyway, you can get away with B&C weapons easily as a bonus

its cuz of the enviro suit

A theory is that you were supposedly able to recruit whomever you want at any given time

Maybe they just changed their minds about her recruiting after creating these scenes.

One of the devs said that you were able to recruit all the team after the first mission but due hardware limitations they have to split the game

@@blacklightvirus5204 yeah they couldn’t fit all the content onto 1 disk, so had to split it into 2. Hence the separate stages of recruitment

@@blacklightvirus5204 makes no sense to keep it that way in the legendary edition

Too bad some people don’t seem to get this and just call BioWare lazy for not making a new ME2

@@Ikcatcher It would actually be very easy for them to do this because the content is all there and was already made to support this originally. It would be confusing for returning players though, and possibly make a couple of plot holes for ME3 although I’m not sure.

Yeah, I see what you mean. But Bioware seemed committed to just modernizing the original experience instead of changing anything, which in itself is also a good thing.

Man straight up just daydreaming

That would be fun. Just have all the team member collection missions right after you get the Normandy or have a new scene saying that TIMmy had a squad pick all of your crew up as soon as you get the Normandy.

Couple that with the fact that Harbinger is barely a threat when he's possessed a collector, so I'm sure a lot of players just ignore him.

It wouldn’t be surprising if the cut content is full of bugs and issues. Maybe Thane DOES have lines recorded here, but they are not working for some reason. And why bother fixing it if it is already cut?

Incorrect: It would be Qwib-Qwib. Or Vas Iktomi... or Defranz 🤣🤣

@@sandrogamer30018 or Archanzora.

Talibrations is the ship name for Tali x Garrus

no, talibrations would be garus's signature move for her in the bedroom.

Talus!

It makes no sense to place speech check in prologue mission you know? Although you could base it on having done her “loyalty” mission in ME1, that would be logical solution

Watch the expanse if you like raan. You will be surprised hearing her voice in a badass way.

Well, she got attacked right after waking up from a long sleep... She didn't have a coffee yet.

How many combinations of dialog would that need to be ?

@@floatinggoose9197 The game actually assigns priority to certain characters in some situations (I think it's like +1, +2, or something like that). Technically, if someone assigned the proper priority to the minimum amount of characters for certain scenes, it might just be able to be pulled off.

I wish I could recruit Tali early, but I like the recruitment missions being split up. It gives the game some structure

There is no galactic readiness anymore. All war assets now have their full face value and the requirements for each ending have increased accordingly

Literally what is with that. I did every side mission I could think of and swore I’d have enough for the best ending but I was nearly a thousand short??

@@Jedi817 you’re wrong, if you use a save editor you can see they are significantly lower then the face value.

@@kellihughes6363 Idk how many you had but I had maybe 7500 and got the best destroy ending. Sorry it didn’t work out for you :/

@@kellihughes6363 there are like 2.5k scannable assets, I had the same problem

Oof you’re going to be disappointed

Got some news for you buddy...

Doesn’t really have anything to do with that. Originally you were able to recruit anyone in any order, but they cut that out of the game and made it a little more linear. They left it in the game files and it’s cut content.