Talking about BDG Disband... 

You and echo kinda rigged the game. No guild has the capacity and budget to compete with your 2 guilds. Except may be for method but it's still a long way to go.

“Echo turbo farmed pieces” - editor shows echo took two players and liquid took 6.. Okay max lmao

You and Echo killed BDG and then say they give up. just okay.

RTWF basically a gold farming contest - splits/gold requirements prevents any guilds outside the top 2 or 3 from even having a chance.. The whole RTWF ends up feeling like a scripted Harlem Globetrotters vs Washington generals match.

Perfect time for blizzard to stop designing mythic for world first guilds

Its time for them to stop designing raids and seasons completely around a 2 weeks stream that 60 people take part in then never actually play the game again untill the next raid

This kind of feels like a problem for any guild trying to up their game play. My most recent guild was mainly a heroic guild that would do maybe the first 3 on mythic. Then I joined and pulled in a feel friends that were also former higher end raiders which lead to the guild doing like 6 bosses on mythic and leadership is like this is fun lets try and push to be a more progression focused team and try to build up for cutting edge. For the next 3 tiers any time we got someone good enough to be cutting edge they fall off in a few months or end of the raid tier because we could never get 20 cutting edge people and always had 8-12 people strong players and carrying people that either didn't care or were not skilled enough for the remaining spots losing our best players over and over but never being able to replace the others with like minded players. It was one of the worse experiences I have ever had and is why I'm not currently raiding.

so in Short , Money wins the race

Your guild and that EU guild literally dedicate 40+ people's lives to the game. no one else is coming close to this and people are realizing to just play for fun unless they're giving up freedom.

The "any guild can compete and win" world first raiding scene was ruined by method, and it looks like Echo is going to do the same thing with the MDI.

Watching BDG via CherryVodka and Snutz in Antorus and start of BFA is what got me in to watching high end raiding. Pouring one out.

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All things aside, love these ‘behind the scenes’ videos, I’m not a high-end raider but always enjoy understanding what’s going there. Mad respects to Lozi, hope all those who’ve been stressing can take a well-needed breather now

I really liked their streams during rwf. cool vibes different vibes from the (over)produced streams like Liquid's and Echo's. Sad this had to happen. Also appreciate you for the real talks about struggles as a guild like theirs and also as a rwf guild in general.

RIP. Bricked up is the best moment of this tier and it’s not even close.

I mean no disrespect to max, but the RWF is literally just a scripted event on Echo vs Liquid. Y’all have the most financial power, you can poach any player in the game. You have a significant advantage beyond any other guild. Even the community only farms for y’all and echo. It’s not like another guild can compete with you two anyway. They lack the same resources.

Sooner or later it becomes a one horse race. That’s kind of where we’re at now. Sure, Liquid competes admirably, even taking a world first here and there, but Echo is the guild that really runs the show when it comes to world first racing. It’s impossible for any other guild to compete. They’ll eventually all die off.

Unless they make some serious format changes to the race it will always be Echo vs Liquid, the resources and infrastructure you need to even compete at the top level are insane

Very sad to lose BDG but this was an inevitability. I think honestly, if we can have an ecosystem with 3 real guilds at the top this is more than ir equal to what weve had historically, and i think the rest of the teams are just going to need to be content with being great guilds that play a lot, but dont really "day raid" for more than a few days per tier. The "bedroom org" model that fills out a lot of esports leagues across the world isnt really auitable fir qow because of how expensive running a race team is. Each guild needsnto support roughly 6 "normal" esports teams worth of people. I think we honestly just need to appreciate that our scene does actually support multiple teams that compete with one another.

Method has without a doubt been cranking it it's pretty hype thinking the possibility of a three horse race rather than 2 could happen