Talking Cheap GBBR's are they worth it? 

This dude is one of those youtube legends that helps everyone out for a good cause

I've been binging your videos since your newest one came up on my feed, and they are great. I'm sad to hear the news, but I'm praying that you make it through; you are amazing.

I have been binging your videos for the last 3 days while I wait for my GBBR to arrive, really cool to see someone so committed and knowledgeable on the subject share with us all. Deserves a bigger audience for sure. Cheers, Ollie!

I've had my first gbbr, a jg m4, since 2015. I have gamed it a few times before it started showing wear. One advantage of buying cheap is you encounter more or less the same problems higher-end gbbs suffer from at a lower cost. Yes, you can learn a lot about the basics of handling and taking care of a gbb. So far I have made a hammer pin, repaired the bolt catch, fixed mag leaks, and shortened the stroke. That's another plus, being able to work on your smithing skills and try stuff you learn from others.

The new release of Army Armament replicas now has a steel triggerbox in the G36C GBBR (bought a week ago at Taiwangun), 2 magazines included, compatible VSR/GBB bucking and barrels, all for about $160. Worth every penny...

The really unfortunate side about airsoft and specifically GBBRs... is that it is probably the least return on fun to investment than any other sport or hobby in existence I'm a full time GBBR user, but when you think about it, I've forked out a crazy amount of money for this replica that I can only really shoot on weekends in very specific locations, even if I'm lucky enough to have my own private garden range and not have the Armed Squad send me to another realm, I have that continuous horrible feeling...is my gun going to shit itself? Is my hop going to work today? Is it going to completely gas out in this crapfest that is English weather? Frankly if it isn't anything other than an MWS (or now the TM AK), this is the reality using most GBBR's

Glad you're back mate. Great video as always. 🤘 Just a quick correction, Plastic is a type of Polymer. They are not different materials. Plastic is a material, there are different types of plastic. Polymers is a type of molecular structure. All Plastics are Polymers, but not all Polymers are Plastics. It's weird, and misleading, that some companies claiming that a certain thing is made of "Polymer" to sound "more quality" than made of plastic. Keep up the amazing content, you help a lot of us. ❤️

You're so chill and informative man. Please keep making more videos, it helps a lot especially to us beginners

I didn't know about Super Thanks until you mentioned it. I figure you're videos and the knowledge you share have saved me a pretty penny while getting into GBBRs the last month or so.Thanks a bunch mate.

Keep up the great work Ollie! You are helping people.

Hey, just wanted to let you know that this was a really helpful video. I'm not a fan of AEGs, but I've had really bad luck with gas guns. I had a Golden Eagle M16 RIS that suffered a catastrophic malfunction on game 1. (A bb got stuck in-between the bolt carrier group and inner wall of the upper receiver. Getting it out caused significant damage to the gun and ultimately killed the whole thing.) I also had an Elite Force 1911 that's safety switch self destructed during a game. I'm a college student so I don't have a lot of money, and I just today bought an S&T M16A4 from an Evike Lighting sale, not knowing that it and the Golden Eagle were related. I was SUPER concerned that I was gonna have another $180 down the drain once I discovered the connection between the two, so your video helped sooth my nerves. I still might refund it, but at least I have a much better understanding of what to expect. I would totally go for a GHK AKM if I had the money, but I just can't spend that much on a hobby right now.

I started in 2020 and went straight to GBB only because my main reason was to have a collection of guns that were closer to the real thing as a gun lover lol. Started with a WE M4 CQBR and long story short, it was a decent learning curve. That WE has now turned into a full build internally and externally, build cost is around £1300 without the mags but including the gun. I love it and wouldn’t change what I’ve learned, because with that experience, I now have a PDW build and a GHK URGI build and love them all.

Good topic! Because of a tight budget, my first GBBR i recently got a hold of is a Golden Eagle M16A3 (GBBR WA); And a few pews later i am very happy. Performs pretty well straight out of the box. Waiting to see her full performance in springtime..

My first GBB rifle is the WE M4, but back in the day I am still a newbie airsofter, that poor M4 just kept being abused by me until it dead lol. But looking back in time with all the experience I have now, it was a fine gun for a beginner. Speaking of which G36 is also my favourite platform, I love it so much that I have two of these platforms one AEG and one GBB. That AEGis fully upgraded and shoot extreme well until I purchase the VFC GBB one, then that AEG just become a wall display lol.

An interesting video. Me and my mate have had this chat as well about a year ago. I plumbed to go second hand(virtually brand new with 7 mags for £450) and my mate could only afford a we g39c . When they are working both give a great shooting experience, however often the g39c throws a fit and has my mate cursing. But that said since he has bought the gas gun his aeg's have never been used. That has been the case for myself as well. So much better shooting experience and so much closer to the functionality of real steel. I've always used airsoft guns to practice for shooting real ones for both military and the police in the past. I wish I had these gas rifles years back whilst still using the real ones in the police. These days I use them to teach some tactical stuff. Guys that have only fired aeg's are generally blown away by the experience of shooting the mws. Even the guys on the real steel range who pop over are impressed with the functionality and general performance. Plus it allows them to try some more dynamic drills in relative safety. Keep up the great vids matey.

I might just get a Golden Eagle gbb and spend the time and money fixing it when it needs it. I just really like the look of it

He’s back! 🎉 great video as always 👍

Great video as always Ollie! I'm glad you mentioned the wider logistical aspects of owning a GBBR, the first step one ought to make before buying one is to look for spare parts. I'd recommend a TM MP7 and if you can get one second hand like I did for 200 pounds, even better. I've also seen some VFC 416s second hand for a decent price as well, buying new can sometimes feel like a scam.

Your so knowledgeable it’s insane . I ended spending 480 on a Wa arms based system I’m regretting it a little cause finding mags has been a little difficult but I was able to source 7 of them . I do have to say though I did go into the purchase thinking something was gonna break cause I didn’t get a TM , GHK, or VFC and Robbie honest it has shot like a dream . Nothing has broke yet that is a functioning part! I did break the ear where the trigger guard goes trying to force the pin back in with a hammer so that’s on me and I just jb welded it back and it’s fine now but relatively it’s been an amazing Gbbr and I’m very happy with my purchase. I just wish mags were a little easier to find . The gun does take ghk gmags which is awesome but finding them in stock has been a challenge atleast in the states ! Overall great video and anyone looking to try out Gbbr should definitely take his advice cause it’s very solid advice . I’m in the market again for another Gbbr and I’m torn between a VFC or a WE and doing upgrades cause that’s where all the gun is for me upgrading or more so tuning and making it more reliable! Tough decision I’m still very torn . The MwS by far has the best performance it just lacks in realism when it comes to the trigger group which is also another reason why idk about the WE . I do remember in one of your videos you saying the trigger itself wears in nicely but I can’t imagine it will ever be as crisp as a ghk and vfc or WA . As always amazing videos and excellent information!

Started with the ghk g5, great platform for cqb and mags are compatible with all ghk and WA systems (vfc for example) so upgrading to other m4 systems wouldn't be a terrible money pit.

I like the idea of players, who are interested but nervous to get into GBBRs, to get something like an AA G36. But I definitely would suggest doing a lot of research into the platform to make sure parts are easily available from WE. That way they can take it out to a game day and run it for most of the day to see how they like it and it’s a great transition period. I don’t really like suggesting any WA clone only because the system is over 20 years old and parts are becoming harder to source, especially certain upgrade parts like barrels and buckings. They also experience cooldown way harder than most other GBBRs currently on the market. But yeah! Grab a cheaper gun and a mag or two and just have some fun with it and use it as a transition into the GBBR Master Race! Although, playing Devil’s Advocate, I think “buy once, cry once” is also a good idea for gas rifles because you generally get what you pay for. Another big suggestion of mine is this: if you don’t know anyone with a GBBR that you can talk to to help you with getting into the platform and assist with tuning/trouble shooting issues, then go to a game and pay attention to who is running a GBBR. If you find someone running it, go talk to them about gas rifles. They’re almost certainly an enthusiast and they will undoubtably nerd out on talking about gas guns and may even take you under their wing…or at least know someone who will. Having someone you know who is knowledgeable in gas rifles is a God send. Gas gun users are like an unofficial club and always bond at games.

My opinion: If there are plenty of cheap oem parts, or better steel upgrades for the enitre trigger group, then yes.

Love the tip about not investing too heavily into a GBBR early. I'll admit that I've made that mistake a few times lol. Definitely best to wait until you know that you like that replica.

I hyped to see you back! (I write this before watching the video so maybe you will cover this topic), But price in airsoft can be very misleading sometimes too. Like just cause something has a premium price doesn't always mean that that price is justified. Best example is ghk vs vfc ARs. Id always recommend VFC over GHK especially with their newer ARs they really stepped up their game.

my friend just spent about $500 on a golden eagle M4, then another $400 for attachments and magazines. after not even an hour of use things started breaking and moving parts started locking up

Your videos are amazing, thanks again! Do you still plan on doing the gas smg video?

Yes will be good. You can mod GE ar15 WA clone, to use superior VFC mags.

My modded WE Scar-H has probably spit out about 12k rounds by now, and my trigger system is 100% stock. I will admit I use my VFC UMP45 and UMP9 more because of the killer 2-round burst lol. Much love from Canada!

As I'm new to airsoft. Gbbr's is something I'm considering in the future. Me personally would rather send you £500 to choose a good gbbr for me. Your insights and info on gbbr's, (which I'm sure many other ppl will agree). Your vids are very knowledgeable 👍

I have WE G36, WE AKSU, WE G3, WE SCAR L, TM MP7 and TM MTR 16. i love them all and want more :)

As an former owner of few Golden Eagles, and as a current custom builder base of Golden Eagles, I have to say they are a quite good platform to start with, but you need to know what are its quirks and how to fix them, and also what aftermarket part use to get a really good performance.

I understand the point. I started gbbr this years (with marui mp7) it also have a big cost, but i was figuring starting with à reputed brand is expecting having à more reliable system and play without the fear my gun broke in the middle of a game as entry in this world. And expecting if it was'nt my cup of thea resseling it easyer than a cheap gbbr

Love your Videos! But where can I find clone GBBR?

I would go for Army Armament R36, it has 2 units of magazines out of the box...and I will do some modifications later...👍👍

I just purchased a golden eagle mk18 and an elite force glock 19x for training purposes I love shooting my real steal rifle but ammo is expensive 556 is 50-70c a round and a bottle of .20s is like 20

Awesome video. I've been subbed for quite some time but I've finally made the leap, sold some AEGs and got myself a WE HK 416 and an Apache MP5, both for CQB.

Talking of WE GBBR's, the MP5 Apache and AK74un have been two superb performers for me.

Top videos lad

Where you gone Ollie we need some more Mws or equipment/accessories videos! :)

thank you for this guide it really helped im looking to get the l85a2 a british army rifle for around £200 its a ebb

The internals is the same as WE in the g36 and suffers from the same problem with going full auto in single

I know this is an older video but has the army armament g36 treated you? I just got a tm mws and my firend would like a gbbr too and I dont know if I should sudgest this one to him.

Would you recommend the Army Armament G36C you used in the video for a first GBBR? I was thinking about getting it for a while now but I don't know what to think of it

Hi Ollie, thank you for your very detailed videos. What do you think of the Cyma T8? I’ve seen a very nice Cyma n4 Noveske.

tokyo mauri need to make a gas blow back version of this would be nice

Thanks

Hello, I have been watching your akm videos and I love it. But Can you please make a video of all of the akm attachments on the tokyo muari akm? For etc, the hop up, spring, etc

Great video thank you for making it ! I have a golden eagle M4 gbb (got it for £150ish) but struggling to find any spare parts to customise ie cqb outer/inner barrel, stocks , magazines etc. any advice of shops / sites to purchase from in the UK?

Any idea of what causes that problem of the couple shoots on semi? I'm having the same problem and dont know if it's possible to be fixed.

Always loved gbb sidearms...just got a nice Full metal m4 gbbr, and I can't fuckin wait to feel the bolt slam on it.

gbl is making a stamped steel receiver for the marui akm!

hey ollie im thinking of buying a a gbb we g36c is it worth it and great video btw :D

I have a s&t m16a4 which uses the wa gas system and it is £150 ish, it somehow have steel internals and the gas efficiency is great

lets be real guys when you buy a gbbr regardless of price the performance is never gonna be good as hpa so you might as well not worry about performance and just get something you find cool.

Great vid mate 🤙🏻

I downloaded this for my flight back home. So thanks in advance for the entertainment Ollie 😉

How about the we scar L reviews? Slightly expensive but good internals. Base on reviews, the external screws are not good at all. But since the glue are in the market its solve.

Hey, i know the video is older rarther than a newer one, but i got my hopes you will respond to me, as i am kinda nervous about switching from aegs to gbbrs, do you reccomend any gbbr? Im not talking like a cheap one or high end one, something in the middle, i was thinking about WE scar mk16, but someone told me WE is not reliable, and do you reccomend converting to hpa?

Excellent video!

Ya viper tech are solid as far as build being a forged upper and lower and all steel internals but owning a king arms which is the same system it’s basically a cheaper version of the viper tech they both can run ghk mags and all the parts are interchangeable. There is still something that draws me to a WE for whatever reason . I really wanna branch away from the m4 platform. I’m liking the mp5 , 553, or a scar16 . How do you like your dmr ? Even though it’s AR based the sr25 by vfc is beautiful! What was the name of that website you named for cheaper Gbbrs?

what is the weight difference between a gased up tm akm mag vs an empty mag?

Can you make a video of the Maruzen M1100 if you own one? Curious on your take…

Hey Ollie short update from my past basement sessions: Done everything with lubing what you told me to do. (Used the BB session to work it in.) Again used 144a. Tried again with a full load of gas waiting until the valves spits, then got out one complete Load and only bit more. Watched your gg-mod video. Will try to lower mags and aggressively try to put everything in like in the vid :D. Maybe I will weight them! Green gas is more resistent against temperature so better option how I understoood. Would you say: „Test again with green gas! Don‘t worry about your nozzle spring“ Than have a look at your mags!“ I‘m afraid of punishing anything. If temperature drops would green gas be my „144a gas“ during hot summer? Or will I nevertheless put still more stress on my internals? Or is the power now ok when temperature is lower? Nozzlespring upgrade before green gas use? And now: Hearing test: 3 of 5 mags having those minileaks. 2 completely ok. After that relubed from outside router and output valve again. I think I‘ts really nothing important. Little nano „blub“ sound. Won‘t effect anything I think. I will ignore and if everything fails I owned the Lees Precision O-Ring set for the mags. Another user told me that maybe the mechanics under the pusher item of the valve above has got good Funktion but valve below needs some lube. Maybe pushing those pins and take the work. …but first when I played first skirm 😅✌🏽 Some important questions: What’s your experience with the T8 feedlips? What brand for complete set/spare nozzle should I go? There are sets and only nozzle. And what brand for nozzle spring? There is % giving, how many percent should I go for? Have a nice day! Thank you for sharing your big experience and that you take your time for your community 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️😬😬🤘🏽🤘🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Josch

150 pounds sounds like a steal where did you get it from

I want a full metal gbb spas 12.

For GBBR, would suggest having reliable, more parts supported GBBR, than buying cheap GBBR but needs to spend more time to repair than playing in the field, unless you have experience in repairing cheap GBBRs

Hello mate! I met you the other week at the Roman Baths and luvin your content! Do you have any suggestions for a decent UMP GBB?

Hey I'm wondering what barrel and hop rubber you use in your main Mws I have a mk18 and was going to just install the laylex arm but thinking of changing it all

does volante nozzles increase or decrease gas efficiency?

Underrated. Face put me off at first.

Im looking forward to getting this riffle in May, gonnaa be my first GBBr 😎

Tbh WE G36 has potmetal internals aswell lmfao

Where can I buy a kwa Mac 11 ns2 metal body kit pleaseee

i have been thinking about getting a golden eagle MC6594M. any advice on if i should get this or smth else?

eh just get a Umarex H&K417D V2

Recommending to NOT buy mags but an aftermarket innerbarrel is a very odd recommendation imho. 90% of airsoft innerbarrels which come ootb are JUST FINE. Just change the tensioner and bucking first

SEIG GBBR!

Alright so my 2 cents: I started with a WE-tech Open bolt M4. (416) 500$ canadian brand new. First caveat; i wanted too make sure it was internally as solid as it could be, so i replaced the: hammer, trigger, sear and valve knocker with RA-Tech. Without replacing these parts, you will eventually run into double firing issues and such. These upgrades cost me another 100$. Keep in mind i could easily source the WE- replacement parts for cheaper, but i went all in with ra tech. NOTE: ONLY REPLACE THE PARTS STATED ABOVE( sear,hammer,valveknocker,trigger) or you WILL wear out the other parts and do more damage than good!! Dont bother with changing the BOLT on a WE-tech m4, the ra tech one will beat your gun too death and smash your hop up unit. Th we tech is almost a 1:1 replica internally, which is really cool. You feel like you are working on a real AR, and you can fit alot of real steel parts on it, so if your in North America that's something too consider. Also try and avoid using the bolt catch as much as possible, its gonna wear out eventually, which means you would have too replace the bolt but then have too replace the hopup unit too as ive already said thats risky... Oh dont forget it shoots HOT like 450, so you will also need a 30$ npas unit that may or may not work depending on how new it is...( old ones apparently were trash? Mine works fine) Now, 65$ a mag, 3 mags later... its a 800$ loadout. Know what else is an 800$ loadout? My Tokyo Marui MWS CQBR. Which brings me too my next point. If you can afford it buy the TOKYO MARUI MWS (or akm if you go that way) It needs nothing, it asks for nothing. It is its own proprietary system that WONT BREAK especially if you run it on duster gas like me. The bolt catch wont wear out because like i said,its system is solid. The difference is spec. The WE tech can accept real steel parts more readily, and is mil spec, i think you can even fit RS rails but dont quote me on it. Where as wih TM its all TM/AEG spec, and you will need certain aftermarket adapters too fit certain handguards and rails, so customization can be a bit trickier with the TM. All in all, if you can afford a TM get one, but the WE-Tech is still a great platform, it just might need some help along the way, and might eventually cost you what the tm cost. (Yeah okay if you buy mags for the tm it will get up there too in price)😂 If you want realism and maintenance = WE-Tech If you want reliability and some parts confusion= TM GBBR MASTER RACE.🫡💯

Gateway gun

Don't hate the player hate the game I know a Grifter when I see one

so, wait for a umarex g36 it is for me