As he should have. What kind of person sits up with their drag queen friends and make fun of their spouse's medical condition. 🙄 If Vince did that to her he'd be labeled a monster.
Grace Turner in the first episode she had lunch with her friend Tiny. Tamar is on the current tour with Xscape, her friend Tinys group. And honestly, with all those sisters she has, she's good.
Vince has isolated her so much. She had to defend her life so much she lost her friends. Vince doesn’t feel intimidated by her male friends cause he knows nothing will happen
This guy has been through so much with her. She is always talking loud, making inappropriate comments, and wanting to be the center of attention. She goes through this with everyone. How is it that people can't see it?
I dont think Tamar was talking about vince.She was just making a joke.Vince was not the only one that had gouts before at the table so what he tripping for.
The more I watch these old shows Katie Shola, the more the divorce makes sense. It was inevitable. Who could live like that? To make matters worse, Logan was sitting there the whole time!!!!!!!
Vashti Fowler Ikr that's so true and for a while i would think wow Vince really just told Tamar off like she's a child and she's just sitting there looking miserable about to cry when she did nothing wrong! Ikr poor Logan!
But sometimes it hurts and gets annoying when someone keeps poking at a sensitive issue and laughing at you in front of her friends and on TV. Weight and health is a sensitive issue even for men
RIGHT! he probably wasn't comfortable talking about it , especially in front of these "new people" ... Thats not something ANYONE can just be friendly about... Shiiii, I don't know you like that to be joking with you about anything..so lets be real.. If it was the other way around, Tamar would go off ..
Honestly if that was me and my husband and his friends that Im not even close with were laughing at my health condition that I was struggling with, I would be low-key mad
Undefined. .. of course . Im going to keep my comments to myself at the dinner table but best believe behind close doors I'm going to address it. That's not cool at all
Its called being sleepy from working long hours. In the industry most people don't get enough sleep. Thats in part why they need makeup before making public appearances. Many who look like they are not aging are getting work done. Some admit it but some don't.
Tamar yes You 're being Disrespectful towards Vince and Keep them sloths out of your marriage definitely Dudes that really thinks or believes they're WOMEN!!!
He was, called Tamar. She is a whole emotional headache. People don't realize that chick has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. THATS what her problem is. Vince was not the abuser, SHE WAS. She always insulted him and put him down in front of others. Narcissists do that to break down people's self-esteem so they can control them. She was controlling from the very beginning starting with how she even got with him. Tamar tried to use Vince to advance in a singing career, but she could not control him in business. Thats why she was always trying to guilt trip him claiming he was helping other people's career but not hers. That of course wasn't true, he was just honestly telling her she was not ready, mainly due to her attitude and how she deals with people. And as you can see she got fired from The Real, lied on Lonie, then when Steve gave her a shot and saw how she disrespects those she works with, he backed out of doing business with her. She goes from relationship to relationship accusing them of abusing her once they figure out she is a toxic emotional abuser. Narcissists ALWAYS play victim. Its no coincidence that three men in a row now she is accusing od abusing her. Don't be fooled by Tamar. Educate yourselves on personality disorders. Tamar's track record speaks VOLUMES. Look how she acted with Iyanla. I mean she is always the victim. And when its convenient for her she gives FAKE apologies with fake crying and no tears. You have to be completely gullible to not see through her.
Her entire family says the very same thing ab her. She fell out with family, girlfriends and male relationships. The common denominator is HER. Every therapist said she was spoiled or abusive. Shes annoying as hell and so is her fanbase bc they dont check her ratchet behavior
Yeah and now she is claiming David abused her just like she claimed her ex before Vince abused her. People don't realize that chick has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. THATS what her problem is. Vince was not the abuser, SHE WAS. She always insulted him and put him down in front of others. Narcissists do that to break down people's self-esteem so they can control them. She was controlling from the very beginning starting with how she even got with him. Tamar tried to use Vince to advance in a singing career, but she could not control him in business. Thats why she was always trying to guilt trip him claiming he was helping other people's career but not hers. That of course wasn't true, he was just honestly telling her she was not ready, mainly due to her attitude and how she deals with people. And as you can see she got fired from The Real, lied on Lonie, then when Steve gave her a shot and saw how she disrespects those she works with, he backed out of doing business with her. She goes from relationship to relationship accusing them of abusing her once they figure out she is a toxic emotional abuser. Narcissists ALWAYS play victim. Its no coincidence that three men in a row now she is accusing od abusing her. Don't be fooled by Tamar. Educate yourselves on personality disorders. Tamar's track record speaks VOLUMES. Look how she acted with Iyanla. I mean she is always the victim. And when its convenient for her she gives FAKE apologies with fake crying and no tears. You have to be completely gullible to not see through her.
In all honesty, I don't think Vince even wants to be there. No disrespect to homosexuals, but do you think he wants to be around them 24/7 with his wife? Do you think he is just tired and want to have some personal time with his wife? Do you think it was necessary to talk about gout as if he may be comfortable talking about that with others he may not know very well? Personally, theres certain things that wont be done or said in front of my man because Idk how he may be feeling about it. Tamar gets away with ALOT of bs she says and barely takes accountability for her actions, we see that on BFV... So I don't see anything wrong with him calling her out.. maybe the tone and delivery but nothing wrong with it at all. We cant say this is the reason she asked for a divorce, we don't know what truly goes on behind close doors but these two people. So these clips can't justify 9yrs of what went down in THEIR marriage.
Nissi V you sound like a complete fool. her hair and makeup artists WORK for her. are you out of your mind? these are not people just "hanging around". you're moronic.
Vina Vine One thing you aint gonna do is insult me on MY POST! Thats #1... #2 it doesn't matter if a person works for you, do you know them personally?! No! Most people are there to do a job and that's it. #3 is that the same MUA & stylist she had last time?🤔 No. so stop sitting here trying to make it seem like just Because a person is paying you to do a job its ok for you to be all up in your business just because they are "around" (hence I stated personal business as well since Vince is there....) they work for Tamar, not Vince.. know the difference.
If you were married to someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder you would too. People are so blind to this sick Heffer. People don't realize that chick has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. THATS what her problem is. Vince was not the abuser, SHE WAS. She always insulted him and put him down in front of others. Narcissists do that to break down people's self-esteem so they can control them. She was controlling from the very beginning starting with how she even got with him. Tamar tried to use Vince to advance in a singing career, but she could not control him in business. Thats why she was always trying to guilt trip him claiming he was helping other people's career but not hers. That of course wasn't true, he was just honestly telling her she was not ready, mainly due to her attitude and how she deals with people. And as you can see she got fired from The Real, lied on Lonie, then when Steve gave her a shot and saw how she disrespects those she works with, he backed out of doing business with her. She goes from relationship to relationship accusing them of abusing her once they figure out she is a toxic emotional abuser. Narcissists ALWAYS play victim. Its no coincidence that three men in a row now she is accusing of abusing her. Don't be fooled by Tamar. Educate yourselves on personality disorders. Tamar's track record speaks VOLUMES. Look how she acted with Iyanla. I mean she is always the victim. And when its convenient for her she gives FAKE apologies with fake crying and no tears. You have to be completely gullible to not see through her.
I absolutely do not believe Vince abused her. Tamar is a narcissist and they are compulsive liars. She claimed the ex before Vince abused her, then Vince and then David. Narcissists are emotional abusers and this is what they do. Insult, guilt trip and lie to break other people's self-esteem down. Who makes fun of their spouse having a real medical condition and in front of other people. Its sad that so many people cannot see through this toxic, insecure chick.
Those seem to be her friends, not his friends. Some may think her comment was just a joke but I would NEVER joke about my husband's health battles with other people. Especially people he is not close to as well
MiamiPush2theLimit so that makes it okay for his WIFE to make fun of him in front of other people!?! Again, not appropriate behavior from someone's spouse.
There was no bullying. Vince says nasty things to Tamar all the time that aren’t jokes. She said nothing except that he has gout. She wasn’t making fun of him. He’s trying to look innocent as per usual. That’s an abusers job I guess to appear nice and sweet but behind closed doors he’s a monster. Believe it.
Yes she was!!! People don't realize that chick has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. THATS what her problem is. Vince was not the abuser, SHE WAS. She always insulted him and put him down in front of others. Narcissists do that to break down people's self-esteem so they can control them. She was controlling from the very beginning starting with how she even got with him. Tamar tried to use Vince to advance in a singing career, but she could not control him in business. Thats why she was always trying to guilt trip him claiming he was helping other people's career but not hers. That of course wasn't true, he was just honestly telling her she was not ready, mainly due to her attitude and how she deals with people. And as you can see she got fired from The Real, lied on Lonie, then when Steve gave her a shot and saw how she disrespects those she works with, he backed out of doing business with her. She goes from relationship to relationship accusing them of abusing her once they figure out she is a toxic emotional abuser. Narcissists ALWAYS play victim. Its no coincidence that three men in a row now she is accusing od abusing her. Don't be fooled by Tamar. Educate yourselves on personality disorders. Tamar's track record speaks VOLUMES. Look how she acted with Iyanla. I mean she is always the victim. And when its convenient for her she gives FAKE apologies with fake crying and no tears. You have to be completely gullible to not see through her.
Vince appears to not feeling good, and that's Vince business that he has gout. Not Tamar so called friends, she really needs to grow up an stop being so immature period.
Oh it’s not covert at all. Very HIGH KEY! I’m just glad someone besides me notices bc everyone is always ripping Tay to shreds but Vince is abusive emotionally and physically to her. Been noticed that from the middle of season 1 of BFV.
Then you need to take some psychology courses because its actually Tamar who is the narcissist. Nothing about that man says Covert Narcissist. He was emotionally abused by the REAL narcissist which is Tamar. It shows in ALL of her relations with other people from Iyanla to her sisters to her romantic relationships and business relationships. Thats why Steve Harvey backed out of doing business with her after how she disrespected the co-host like she did. The common denominator it all these things is TAMAR, not Vince. Look what happened with David already, and first thing she does is holler abuse. Tamar has been playing her fans the whole time. Thats what happens when you don't have discernment.
whats happening with this eyes, is that part of a health condition or is he doing that on purpose? if its not a health condition And he's doing that on purpose, THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST ANNOYING THINGS IVE EVER EVER seen in my life like I have noticed this since season 1. Maybe Tamar is extra and she needs to work on herself, but at the end of the day she is constantly evolving and growing for the better and ive seen him remain the same. From the beginning he always used to rub his head and look down and never look interested in what Tamar has to say. I remember when they went to couples therapy and Tamar told the therapist about this and THE THERAPIST CALLED VINCE OUT ON IT TOO! who the hell wants to hang around someone that never seems excited to be around u?? like thats disrespectful and rude! especially ur husband who is supposed to be your soulmate? that person is supposed to laugh so fucking hard with u, and like in Tamar's case I always thought she needs a guy who is gonna laugh with her and like laugh at her craziness and be like damn she is so crazy but she is my crazy. Vince just sat there.... always looking annoyed or embarrassed. like not even ur best friends or even friends would do that to u. I am so happy for her and proud of her for making the current choice that she did and hopefully in the future when she is ready I hope she finds her soulmate who will endearingly laugh at her extra and crazy moments, who will joke with her, sing with her even if he cant sing, and of course like any best friend they will make sure to be like oh u shouldnt say that, its rude or hurtful, but like he is going to celebrate her and fill her with laughter and joy and wisdom, not what Vince has been doin. OK RANT OVER, I just had to get that out cus it made me so sad and mad from season 1.
Vanathi Sundararaman growing my ass. Tamar is disrespectful with her mouth... which is why she can't keep friends... Hell if her family wasn't related they probably wouldn't fuck with her either. Vince is no angel but tamar is the worst! !!!
I AGREE wholeheartedly with your comment! I've seen Tamar grow & evolve in the most humbling way. Vince does seem to be dismissive & uninterested when it comes to his wife. As shown in past seasons, she would make a lighthearted joke & Vince would be upset while his friend Lashawn would be on the sides cracking UP.. he found her to be so funny. If they do part, I agree she needs someone equally yoked that understands her, gets her sense of humor & loves her for all she is.
@@Aliasss no she have not. Yall are just gullible and uneducated on what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like. She is the SAME lying, manipulative narcissist. People are so blind to this sick Heffer. People don't realize that chick has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. THATS what her problem is. Vince was not the abuser, SHE WAS. She always insulted him and put him down in front of others. Narcissists do that to break down people's self-esteem so they can control them. She was controlling from the very beginning starting with how she even got with him. Tamar tried to use Vince to advance in a singing career, but she could not control him in business. Thats why she was always trying to guilt trip him claiming he was helping other people's career but not hers. That of course wasn't true, he was just honestly telling her she was not ready, mainly due to her attitude and how she deals with people. And as you can see she got fired from The Real, lied on Lonie, then when Steve gave her a shot and saw how she disrespects those she works with, he backed out of doing business with her. She goes from relationship to relationship accusing them of abusing her once they figure out she is a toxic emotional abuser. Narcissists ALWAYS play victim. Its no coincidence that three men in a row now she is accusing of abusing her. Don't be fooled by Tamar. Educate yourselves on personality disorders. Tamar's track record speaks VOLUMES. Look how she acted with Iyanla. I mean she is always the victim. And when its convenient for her she gives FAKE apologies with fake crying and no tears. You have to be completely gullible to not see through her.
Gout is very painful. My father has had it for years now. His diet had to change completely, I must admit it is always difficult to watch him go through the process each time.
@@Mehrunissah93 THANK YOU! But people are so stuck on this chick sad she is toxic. People are so blind to this sick Heffer. People don't realize that chick has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. THATS what her problem is. Vince was not the abuser, SHE WAS. She always insulted him and put him down in front of others. Narcissists do that to break down people's self-esteem so they can control them. She was controlling from the very beginning starting with how she even got with him. Tamar tried to use Vince to advance in a singing career, but she could not control him in business. Thats why she was always trying to guilt trip him claiming he was helping other people's career but not hers. That of course wasn't true, he was just honestly telling her she was not ready, mainly due to her attitude and how she deals with people. And as you can see she got fired from The Real, lied on Lonie, then when Steve gave her a shot and saw how she disrespects those she works with, he backed out of doing business with her. She goes from relationship to relationship accusing them of abusing her once they figure out she is a toxic emotional abuser. Narcissists ALWAYS play victim. Its no coincidence that three men in a row now she is accusing of abusing her. Don't be fooled by Tamar. Educate yourselves on personality disorders. Tamar's track record speaks VOLUMES. Look how she acted with Iyanla. I mean she is always the victim. And when its convenient for her she gives FAKE apologies with fake crying and no tears. You have to be completely gullible to not see through her.
I would discourage him from drinking. Due to all of his medical issues, he most likely is on medication. Not sure if he was drinking or meds made him appear intoxicated but this is a sad scene.
Yes she can. She let mouthpiece get her in a lot of trouble. Why is it alway Vince, Tamar can be sometimes disrespectful and hurtful. You tease nobody that has a health problem. Good things stop coming
te4888 that man almost died, if she cared she wouldn't do this. And they just eating up, laughing. She always gives a look like what did I do. But as soon as someone say anything about her it's a problem. If wasn't for her sister and Vince she would not have what's she have today, and GOD.
it's obvious that something is clearly wrong....Vince was not comfortable with the scene but you know some people learn in time that family comes first, not your friends....we do not miss shit until it is completely gone. ....and loving on someone else.
"Is that Patti la belle pie?"...girl you ve been going all the way up lately 👏👏👏👏👏 yeahhhhhhh !!!😂😂😂👏👏👏 Patti labelle!!!I can't...they r soooo fucking funny...Vince please get out of here!!!😂😂😂😂
Tamar is too disrespectful to her husband, if they are having issues and wants to do something as family why go with a crowd,time and place for everything..I hope Vincent finds someone who really loves him and to show him some affection.
Everyone who is saying he is uncomfortable around all those gays are projecting on to him. Tamar has always had them around on other trips. He is in the entertainment industry which is full of gays bts. And he used to manage gaga, a gay icon surrounded by gays and with a very,very large gay fanbase.
Jade Perrin yes I 😢 and laughing too.. Ridiculous talk about Vince now He needs to Keep his mouth mute He cannot give any kinds of advices too Tamar!!!!
Tamar is sooooooo disrespectful........she is surrounding herself with all these male/feminine energy men. And they are sitting at the table with her husband and making jokes about him. I just lost total respect for Tamar, I'm just through. No more watching this sh*t! NO Good is coming to this mess.
Mareaner Hayes i said the same thing How these dudes Can gives any kinds of Advices Too Her!!! Looks at them they definitely needs to keep their mouths mute...
Tamar should really get her some female friends to pow wow with. I think Vince just would prefer not to be in that atmosphere, maybe it’s a bit much for him. She can’t find a good female glam team to use from time to time?
Tarina Brooks Vince don’t like her to be around a bunch of females and on the season they went on vacation with her stylist Terrell and his boyfriend and April and her husband the husband had a problem with the gay couple because he kept speaking on it and Vince spoke up every time so that’s not his issue
Tiffany Moore April and lashawn were Vince’s friends and Tamar called them fake after she was hospitalized and almost died and they never called or came to see her while she was there and she stopped dealing with them
Vince is a crybaby and honestly i dont think he was feeling being around all those gay men. Which is understandable because its like he the only masculine person there and he doesnt have anyone to relate to. No im not being offensive idc what you do in your bedroom but its being honest
Now when Vince was fat and ain't nobody want him she was soooooo in love with him and couldn't stop talking to him but now he skinnny she don't want him lmao Vince its okay I still love you
Exactly! She is VERY insecure in general because she is a narcissist. People are so blind to this sick Heffer. People don't realize that chick has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. THATS what her problem is. Vince was not the abuser, SHE WAS. She always insulted him and put him down in front of others. Narcissists do that to break down people's self-esteem so they can control them. She was controlling from the very beginning starting with how she even got with him. Tamar tried to use Vince to advance in a singing career, but she could not control him in business. Thats why she was always trying to guilt trip him claiming he was helping other people's career but not hers. That of course wasn't true, he was just honestly telling her she was not ready, mainly due to her attitude and how she deals with people. And as you can see she got fired from The Real, lied on Lonie, then when Steve gave her a shot and saw how she disrespects those she works with, he backed out of doing business with her. She goes from relationship to relationship accusing them of abusing her once they figure out she is a toxic emotional abuser. Narcissists ALWAYS play victim. Its no coincidence that three men in a row now she is accusing of abusing her. Don't be fooled by Tamar. Educate yourselves on personality disorders. Tamar's track record speaks VOLUMES. Look how she acted with Iyanla. I mean she is always the victim. And when its convenient for her she gives FAKE apologies with fake crying and no tears. You have to be completely gullible to not see through her.
exactly of course you're going to get gout if you're eating unhealthy foods 😂😂 never heard a person getting gout from only eating fruits and vegtables . thats why she said its a rich man disease . all that meat and butter went right to your foot smh genetics 😂😂
Why isTamar friends with her employees tho🤔 And it looks like she brings them everywhere too on her dime plus pays them...Oh hell nar. It's like have a quite time with ur husband ALONE. WTF😬 N maybe she was throwing shade at Vince too...Smmfh😩
Nerissa Loc Vince don’t like her to be around a bunch of females and on the season they went on vacation with her stylist Terrell and his boyfriend and April and her husband the husband had a problem with the gay couple because he kept speaking on it and Vince spoke up every time so that’s not his issue
It looks like Vincent is sick and pushing through this show and just don't care anymore. Why would I have the chance to sit and eat with my family, but instead sit and eat with Tamar's hairstylist and friends. No.....
That whole scene looks stage like it was a setup she just happen to be friends with a guy that use to be 300 pounds and had gout she needed that guy their to prove to Vince he didnt have to get surgery he could of exercise then that other guy just came out of the blue joking about gout they all laughing about it I can see why Vince was upset she likes to get under his skin but at the same time Vince gotta control his anger that crazy shit she does shouldn't lead up to abuse I think divorce is the best decision
Queen_K Yes he does. I've always felt bad for him when I'm watching this and BFV. Tamar doesn't know what to say out her mouth, and she's used to people brushing it off like her family does. They created that monster. Lol I guess that's why they call her TaMonster.
she has her friends around because she can't no fun with him plus he always get mad at something...baby bye..the other time when they was on vacation he got so mad his friend had to hold him back, he was trying to get her...they are never happy so sad...time to go...hello
Why is Vince even There ?? Those are Tamar's Friends....And then he wanna act like she did something wrong when he just didnt like her company. Nigga u need to go kick it wit yo niggas for awhile You aint gotta be up in her ass 24/7....
He looks irritated and miserable! Yes, I can see him being down low abusive. Those nice ones that always act friendly and loving usually are very different behind closed doors. Why he married her if everything she does bothers him. He may be around her friends because he everywhere she goes. When her sis want to see her he is always there. No one knows what stirs in the pot but you!
She stop speaking to her friend of over a decade for continuing to speak to Toya when she stopped. Tamar own sisters can't stand her they love her but they also know how selfish she is. Vince is a loss cause let it go and let God
Ion think she was bullying him in the confessionals in the early seasons he’d say crazy stuff and tell Tamar what to say and not to say and everything it’s rude