Something as serious as domestic violence is discussed and you're talking about "tea?" Are you that apathetic and driven by gossip that you can't express genuine concern or acknowledgement of such a serious issue in our society?
Mehrunissah93 have u gotten the attention you needed? And who TF are you? I don't have to explain my comment to you. Now in my Tamar voice Get Yo damn life!!
Why would he want to do that. Saying he wants his wife back, that would be the wrong move. Some of you guys just jump out the window with some of the mess you say. But that is your opinion and I'm down with that.
Some people asked her about the Ike reference but she always claimed it wasn’t abuse he was just strict , which was most likely a lie to backtrack her exposing the truth
@@anonymous-od1gv oh yeah Gabe actually exposed the truth to blogs during season 2 or 3. He was the first to publicly talk about vince’s abusiveness. I bet Vince didn’t have that same energy with Gabe like he did Tamar when Gabe tried to fight him at his house that one time
@@DoveVzn yep I remember Tamar and Trina arguing and Tamar saying gabe came her house wanting to fight. There were things that wanted to be said and exposed about tamar abd vinxe but they didn't want to incase it makes their relationship worse
My only daughter is about to be 20 next month. She went THRU this with a guy recently. She kept so much away from me but I knew. Mama's always know! And wouldn't come around me because I would tell her to leave him. I have 2 older sons and it was hell keeping them from doing something to this guy. Didnt want my boys in JAIL for beating this fool to death. He threatened her with guns saying if you leave I'm gonna kill you. But OH my god is a good GOD. I prayed and cried so hard I would get headaches. All the while she's telling me to stay out her business. Now he's in jail for 6 years for robbery....tuh he might not come when you call, but he's always on time. Thank you Jesus can't say that enough
I’m 45 now and HABE 1 child-girl who’s 4…I’m mother was murdered when I was 25 and I THANK YOU for sharing this story…it made me cry…THERE IS NO ❤LIKE A MOTHERS❤. BLESSINGS TO YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER, my friend. Thank you
Empressive yes I understand ms. Evelyn Braxton I also lost my best friend to domestic violence her husband killed her after total 7 years in a relationship 2 in marriage ! So sad I pray Tamar get out !!
I don't understand how it is a cry for help on someone else's behalf who has already filed for divorce and has been living apart from Vince for months. Why didn't she cry for help when the situation was actually active? It's just messy to me now to be going public with all this.
SHE IS TRYING TO HELP HER DAUGHTER AND YOUNG WOMEN BY EXPOSING THE PERPETRATOR' TO STAY SILENT IS TO ALLOW THE ABUSE TO CONTINUE. WHEN IT IS OUT IN THE OPEN MEANS THEY ARE DEALING WITH IT AND NOT LETTING THE ABUSE GO ANY FURTHER '' IN MOST CASES THEY ALREADY WAIT TO LONG ANYWAY'. WITH FAMILY KNOWING BUT TRYING NOT TO INTERFERE'' AND THAT'S WHAT THEY LIKE NO INTERFERENCE''
Dee Xscapes thank you. Thank you. My sister was abused by her "sweet ex hubby" he would hide her car keys. Take away her cell phone and then beat her! She is quiet. She is a push over and STILL got beat. ITS NOT TAMAR MOUTH!!! Its his doings!!!! These women on here blaming her have yet to learn REAL life.
tikapoo25 mhmm that's the unfortunate truth. And whether or not Tamar chose to keep this to her self, these people would still find a way to blame her regardless.
I agree! I'm glad Ms E is speaking up for her bc abusive woman don't speak up often bc people are quick to judge. One of the reasons I said nothing when it was happening to me. I already felt ashamed for what I was going through.
Y’all have to think about why Ms. E is going out and doing this. She has never exploited her children for the 20+ years they’ve all been in the public for. She must HAVE to do this. This seems like a last resort option to save her daughter. I’m sure the rest of the girls are on board for it. The relationship and respect they have each other is very real, so I’m sure this decision was discussed and it’s more than just an “exploitive check” for her. This is so everybody in the industry knows who the hell Mr. Vincent Herbert really is.
Harpers Beauty World it's what made me believe the divorce was real. I thought it was a stunt honestly . To hear it's physical abuse is shocking and hurtful. I don't take her as the type of woman to accept that. She been so vocal about her sisters relationships . Smh I hope she finds peace from all this . I know it's hard been there done that!
Queensolo Yea I agree, I remember after She had Logan, he called her a bad mother and he didn’t even help her out of the car. He even told her he would rather be with a white woman. That’s why she runs around with all these ridiculous blonde wigs. I have never gotten a good vibe from him from day one. I’m sorry but I’m glad they’re divorcing, Tamar deserves much better.
+Stace Mo Yup, she was in two before Vince. She admitted it first season of Tamar & Vince, the clip is here on RU-vid, I was just watching it yesterday
I just dont understand how thw whole family sat back and let this go on for so long. I blame the whole family if this is true. Yall smiled in front of the camera, went on family vacations and had family dinners with a man that was abusive. Yall did season after season with Vince. Aint no way in hell i can be that fake. I dont want to be in thre same room with you let alone a tv show. No one ever called the police for all those bruises and black eyes. Come on now family. Something aint right
If you pay close attention as seasons go on they started to express dislike towards Vince. This started in Season 3 during a counseling session with the sisters Towanda said Tamar turned a deaf ear when he husband did certain things. In Season 5 when they went to Mexico and she had a birthday for him none of the sisters attended especially because they could not bring their families as well. I think they may have tried to stop it behind the scenes but now that the cat’s out of the bag they decided to say something about it publicly.
I been saying there fake especially tawanda. She was laughing when she heard tracy husband allegedly had a outside baby. What sister does that. Like a little girl that has dirt on her sister she was thrilled. I been said they are 5 broken hearted little girls on woman bodies. Poor trine she drinking her pain away. She thinks. Tracy is hurting so bad.sometimes she can't talk. However, he husband keep her focus. Thank God and miss everyone acts like everything is good because she doesn't want.people to know how her girls are broken from their DADDY NOT.BEING THERE SORRY IT'S THE TRUTH.
@fresh B you are absolutely right. They needed the money. They not tonight backup singers anymore. However, I would have been all up in his mess. Hurting my sister. I had to check my sister husband and do it again. I said earlier their abandonment from their father, has them making bad choice with men. I still remember tawanda giggles when she told her sisters about tracing husband might have a outside baby. Who does that. It wasn't funny all . She had huge issues. It will come out. Watch. I hope they all get emotional help. There mom she covered it up as well.
I doubt Miss Evelyn would lie about something like this, maybe she shouldn't be putting her daughters business out like that but she wants her to get help
Exactly. If Kris Jenner was sitting down doing an interview I would be the first one rolling my eyes and calling it a publicity stunt but, as trifling as her other son in laws were she never bashed them and at most just told her daughters to stay strong while they were going through their divorces. I don't think Ms. E would be doing interviews if she didn't feel it was absolutely necessary. If your sister has to call the police on your husband, something isn't right
Apparently daughter hids being beaten and adimmited, did you here that😏 she feels the way to protect her. she maybe scared of what would happen if she was beaten to death. As a mother you could be blamed living in public eyes so it's better to put it out here of which can help vincent to stop if he has been told to stop but he continued 😤. Timar is a big mouth but I understand, but that's her child. She gave birth to her🙌
She lived with them so I'm sure witnessing your daughter being a victim of violence is pretty hard and watching mama e on tv she doesn't play with publicity..
LAWD HAVE MERCY!!! I damn near passed out hearing this information. Ms. E. is a wise woman who understands domestic violence and is not having that shit. OK/ Speak on it Ms. E.
A mother trying to protect and save her baby :( I'm disturbed that the comments are so unsupportive. No wonder abuse victims hide it. The lack of compassion and victim blaming.
Jin J she’s doing publicly. And why now. Sorry mom is totally out of place or perhaps she’s been placed on purpose. As big as Tamar’s rude obnoxious voice is about everything and everyone surely she can’t speak out for herself. She did for her sister’s situation. This is fraudulent
Im just trying to figure out why she over it now, if hes been abusing her for all these years. They been together for 10 years. If he didnt get sued by sony would she be talking now? I doubt it
Tamar has a venomous & uncontrollable mouth even with her sisters & mom, imagine with Vince, YES he's wrong, she need to learn when to shutup learn at times "silence is golden" she provokes with her ugly tone of a uncontrollable mouth
I think she saying in other words he needs to be more supportive and not putting her through stress and fighting while she sick with blood clots ..its only so much u can say within a certain,amount of time
Tamar has stated she has been through abusive relationships in the past; I'm so sad for her if this is the truth. God please show her how much she is loved by you, strengthen her and protect her. Amen
Vince is very angry and gonna realise his mistake now she's gone. You should never tell your spouse female/male to get the fuck out your "place" in the heat of the moment. People like that are control freaks and when they can't control your life they gonna eventually try to take it. Physically and mentally. Preach Mama Ev!!
I think mama E is tiredddd of Vince's abuse so much that she knows if she speaks out ,all the drama that was hidden would be made public and Tamar would have no choice to accept it. Tamar may be angry but mama E is just trying her last effort to help her daughter. Since being in the public eye with an abuser is frown upon. However this is just one side to the story I am not sure if anyone recalls season 3 episode 3 of Tamar and Vince when she grabbed his shirt and poked him in the face after he clearly made a joke. I mean you can only poke a dog so much times before he bites you. We obviously don't know the whole story of these people but let's pray for them both since they are hurting.
It's seems as if this abuse had gone on far longer than season 3. At that point in the relationship she might have felt safe to do that with all the camera...like a vindication of safety. As strange as it sounds. Volatile relationships breed volatile people
Did anybody else catch the fact she said "Tamar has bruises but she always saying she is in the hospital over blood clots " ....Read between the lines !!!! Miss E has witness more than she is saying he did something to the extreme for her to fear for her daughters life because he has threatened her daughter life by doing shit that caused her to be hospitalized. Yeah I caught that Miss E. She truly is hurt by this an she is speaking up . But let me get out of these comments an then take my ass to bed .
She didn't say that. She said she always has black eyes, bruises and in the hospital with blood clots. She didn't elude that Tamar lied about blood clots
I remember during an interview that Tamar stated that she got a nose job because her nose was broken after a fight with an abusive partner... I pray to God she wasn’t referring to Vince because so help me God. If what Ms E is saying is true, Vince is a disgusting bigot
I saw it I saw it. When Logan came home from the hospital asa new born, he cited crazy. He fussed at her coming out of the hospital and left her in the car after giving birth a couple days ago. Go back and look at that Tamar &Vince episode. She had to get herself out of the car after pushing out a baby, which is painful itself. Don’t forget the fight he forged on the London eye Ferris ride for no reason. There are so many examples during both series I bet he is the reason she got fired from the real. Now how will Gaga respond since he handles and created her career. Remy with him too now
He's not Gaga's manager anymore so she won't and shouldn't have anything to say about this..and Remy already addressed it and said it's none of her business like she was supposed to 💯
924MUSIC or when they were having dinner with that other couple and he walked up on her like he forgot the cameras were there. He was ready to hit her and only held back cause other ppl were around. That scene made my heart race soo bad. I was scared for her
Dee I think they all are tired of him and want his money. Which is wrong. I hope the mother is not part of any foolishness. I hope they both can be happy
Just two examples; Remember on their show when he drove her home from the hospital 2 days after giving birth to their son, he took the baby and slammed the house door in her face as she was walking in the house and locked her out? Even last night on their show, emotionally blackmailing her and switching on her in front of her friends for a joke they made about them having gout... The guy let's little signs of split personality slip out in that show, trust me.
When she was on dancing with the stars she ended up in the hospital for blood clots, from dancing I highly doubt that. I remember him saying you can't do everything she was on the real dancing with the stars and Braxton Family Vaules. It possible he had hand having her fired from the real and being disqualified from dancing with the stars.
I believe they abused one another. I've watched their show (yes I know its edited) and it seems like they both have tendency to be violent. Their relationship is very unhealthy they need to let it go.
I see a lot of negative responses on here just sad just because you don't like someone doesn't mean that abuse toward them should be justified I'm just saying if your Mom Grandmother Sister Daughter Aunt Cousin or BestFriend/Friend was someone who spoke their mind no matter how over the top or extra it may seem to you would you then think it's okay for their spouse or significant other to physically/verbally abuse them because their blunt and out spoken? This can be vice versa cause as she stated men get abused as well either way it wouldn't make it right. We see what we see on Tv and automatically think we know people WRONGGGGG!!!! Sometimes it's all an act just for television for ratings I'm not sure who has done what in their relationship but I'm praying that it will get better for the sake of Vin & Tay Tay as well as baby Logan & her mom. And before everyone jumps to judge Mama E put yourself in her shoes maybe she feels this is her last resort to helping save her child by putting it out to the world in hopes that Tay Tay may move on she knows her child more than any of us will ever know her Tay Tay hasn't come out to speak against what her mom is saying so that alone speaks volumes Mama E may be saving everyone in this situation Tay Tay from possibly losing her life Vin from jail and Baby Logan from losing his parents so before judging someone you don't know personally try to see this from all sides Peace Love and Blessings to Tay Tay Vin Baby Logan and the Braxton Family 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I wonder why Ms. Evelyn gave her the name Tamar? In the Bible, Tamar was sexually abused, treated with disgust, and put away. Seems like her life replicates the character of the Bible. May she gain internal peace & joy.
tikapoo25 exactly being loud isn’t verbally abusive. If she was verbally sbusive she would’ve called him fat, ugly, said nobody else wants him, said he wasn’t nothing. That’s verbally abusive. She never said any of that.. she’s just loud and people confuse the two
tikapoo25 Tamar threaten Vince on the slick side plenty of times on the show and in the confessionals. Implying that you’ll get physical with someone if they do something you don’t like is verbal abuse. It has nothing to do with her being loud it’s the things she say and the things she implies. Vince is not allowed to have social media accounts. But Tamar can run around on instagram while taking flirty pictures throughout the day. I do feel Tamar and Vince abuse each other in some kind of way. No one is mentioning the abuse Tamar endured from her own family. Ms Evelyn has some ways to her. Ms Evelyn told Tamar she’ll slap the piss out of her because Tamar was basically getting on her nerves. So it’s okay for a parent to talk to their child like that because of the child smart mouth???But a husband better hold their composure 24/7? Ms Evelyn be truthful because Tamar probably wouldn’t put up with abuse if you wasn’t abusive towards her while growing up.
I think Ms. Evelyn definitely has a right to speak out for her daughter. However, I don't know why something feels so off with this situation and I don't know what the "it" is...
Blueindigogal I think the "offness" I feel is the fact that they acted like things were ok for so long. Her mom is telling us that this was going on for so long. This was probably all awhile Tamar was bragging that she has a man. It's sad.
A desperate mama will go to any lengths to save her child! Old school mothering and I love it! It's hard getting a loved one out of an abusive situation. My mom died from an abusive man, so I know her pain and frustration. She's got to embarrass Tamar and Vince out of the darkness. Good job, Mama E!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Da Brat almost got snatched😒😒😒 😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
I've seen a lot of comments stating that Tamar is not being abused and her mama is a liar. Well let me say... I witness what Logan probably is witnessing. As a 4 year old child my mom was fast tongue and a big personality and you would think she could fend for herself... Not one women should be beaten but she was... There was no help in the 60s and 70s and my mom's family didnt even help.. So Ms. E. stand for your child!!!!!
The mom has never said publicly said much about the other daughters situations and this is why I believe her. May the Lord work on both Vince and Tamar.
Vince has always been very passive aggressive towards Tamar. I believe Evelyn, why would her mother put her out there like that if it weren't true? His answer to everything is God, God, God and he's abusing his wife?
Ms.Braxton i am glade you are speaking out on this behavior yes because the one's that are involved are usually in denial praying for Vince an Tamar 🙏🙏🙏
I think she telling the truth about this. She so passionate and matter a fact in how she's speaking and sounds generally fed up with what's happened. My mother would do the same on my behalf if I was in denial. Hope Tamar get the help she need, so she won't run into this type of relationship again
TruthBeTold u do know a feminist us someone who wants equality for both sexes right. Stop crying feminism if u don't know what it means. Pls get ur ignorance in check
I'm not quick to say somebody lying about abuse, everybody thought K Michelle had lied but come to find out she wasn't. Everything done in the dark comes to light and we all will know what the truth is eventually. Maybe Tamar's mouth is her defense against his verbal and physical abuse.
casarose36 child... MY momma could care less about the public. My momma would be on his ass like white on rice and glass of milk on a paper plate in a snowstorm baby!! And tell me if I wanna try to get in the middle imma get some too!! And DARE any mutha fucka to tell her something about her child... Dramatic, yes. Justified, absolutely. #amotherslove
Did y’all forget he bit her finger at that hotel a few months ago and one of his friends actually called 911 I believe it and he always went everywhere she went that’s why the sisters use to call him Velcro because he wouldn’t let Tamar out of his sight wherever Tamar went he went even on the girls trips
Being a victim of domestic violence for years she had me crying so many women are afraid to leave and we do accept the abuse because we think they will change. i pray for tamar and her family
Yall acting like Tamar is her friend.. That's her daughter, she lived with them, she considered him her son, she took care of both their son, her grandson, excuse me but she is an affected party
I believe it! He always complained about her and said “it’s your mouth” “you never listen”. That is so controlling. Why should she LISTEN to her husband?! She is her own person. He has always shown his true colors and I am surprised that people are refusing and saying it’s actually tamar.
Vince doesn’t really like black women , white women is his preference and Tamar is a STRONG Spoken BLACK WOMAN. He can’t handle her but it should never result in violence. But I’m just having a hard time believing all the information being out by all. Idkw? But it doesn’t feel right something isn’t right
D Gwal he doesn’t have any money. She has the money. Gaga left him Toni left him. Tamar has two shows and appearances and albums. They never had money problems until Vince started people money. Tamar never had money problems
Mama E Never does interviews take heed to that!!! Tamar is speaking through her mother!! When asked "how does Tamar feel about you discussing this, have you spoken to her?" "Yes, she's at my house now" Tamar knows what's up! Damage control!! Very sad situation
Momma E isn't backing down. She said what she said. That's a mothers love❤️ not only is she speaking about her family but educating others on abuse. Much love🙏🏻 and for those saying she's telling her daughters business.. NO, it's call seeking for help from anywhere you can get it. Read between the lines. Momma E feel helpless because Tamar in denial. A mother would shout out from the roof top to get help for their child. Its no more hiding behind closed doors! She is concerned for the well being of her child and has ever right to do so. And if going public is the way ..then so be it!
If you go back and look at several episodes of Braxton family values you will see that Tamar (bless her heart) has some covered bruises. This was years/seasons ago but I’m guessing it hasn’t changed.
TriceB TV and and The Breakfast Club interview recently she had sunglasses on and I knew immediately that it was for a reason during the entire interview *black eyes*
The comments mentioned on BFV: Toni: Tamar don't throw stones when you live in a glass house Towanda: Tamar and Vince are like velcro Tamar: I came to the studio with no self-esteem Vincent: You get on my nerves Toni: I regret getting Tamar and Vincent together Looking back the signs showed on BFV. WOW 😢
I know Mrs. Evelyn is the Mother and seems hurt about her daughter's marital issues.. but if she knew about Vince beating on her daughter as well as him being verbally abusive to Tamar for as many years as Mrs. Evelyn claims its been. why so vocal now? because, Tamar filed for divorce?, or is it Because Tamar was so vocal about her parents marital issues, made it very public and wrote a song about her parents problems (supposedly).. Now Mrs. Evelyn feels she has a right to go public doing interviews telling the world she fears for her daughter life..after Tamar filed for divorce.. like where was the fear at for Tamar and the stand for battered woman and Men when she was still married to Vince. Mrs. Evelyn needs to let Tamar go public about her own abuse because its not Mrs. Evelyn place to be doing so.. Tamar has a Big Mouth I'm sure when her pride has left the room and she is good and ready she'll talk about it or make a song about it. I feel like Mrs. Evelyn is doing this to publicly embarrass Tamar also just so she won't consider reconciling her marriage with Vince. But all this is just my opinion.. Stay Bless All✌
Lola Carmichael exactly because she filed her mom said she is still in denial still covering it up its not her moms responsibility to call him out I think she may be a little dramatic but I completely believe her
me being a fan of the Braxtons and Tamar, i always expected Vincent to be a bully or be a "beater", just by the way he spoke to Tamar, he was very rude and "threatening" in the way he spoke especially in front of company, and Tamar covered for him but personally i never believed it, all the cars ,the houses, all that was a cover-up and that was Vince apology that she accepted. I was never fooled by it tbh but i never commented on it to the tamartian because it was my opinion at the time but it was no proof and it would've been disrespectful to Tamar: Cut-To ... when Vince said "its her mouth" i understood what he meant because most fight start from what someone has said, but that's your wife and that's a woman you're not to hit her, yes words hurt and Tamar has a slick mouth HE KNEW THAT but it doesn't make it right PERIOD. I also feel like the sister all KNEW what was happening because during the 2nd second it was said that Gabe told the lady that he was cheating on Trina with put out that Vince was abusive. HOWEVER Tamar may have love Vincent but she definitely paid the cost. Most importantly for her i hope that she stays away from Vince personally i think abuse and cheating is the last straw of any marriage, i absolutely HATE that she will not be making any new albums her talent is ridiculously amazing and i pray that she changes her mind and continue to do what she does........but something seems to be a little fishy
This made me cry...i swear looks can be deceiving...u never know what happens behind closed doors! I been thru this i kno how it feels to be hurt and abused by someone i love and trusted. hope Tamar bounce back..😢
Okay, now she is not with Vince and have filed for a divorce and moved out. She can file a protective order and do not have to see him at all. So why has she continued to say he has not hit her. Where is the evidence that should be coming from Tamar but Mama is making the rounds. Now that Vince he is being sued for 4 million, all the abuse allegations and confirmation is coming out. Let Tamar come out and tell the truth or refute it! Until then, I will reserve my judgement and condemnation because something is not right!
He's always responding to her slick comments. I believe he was abusive to her though. There was one episode in particular from last year that I remember that sealed it for me.
Vince attempted to beat Tamar on the airplane on a Braxton Family Value Episode. Daddy Braxton intervened quickly and the camera cut the footage quickly. The situation appeared to be heated. Of course Tamar was flapping off at the mouth. This is Tamar second abusive relationship. She can trigger a fight with that mouth. However, I'm rocking with Tamar...Vince is violent no doubt. Furthermore, Tamar work herself senseless. Her husband made sure she worked multiple jobs while he collected her coins as her manager.
If you check, Tamar was with a music exec previously & that ended…I think for a long time Tamar has been wanting to make it in the music business for so long but seem like the dudes are abusive…man, so sad