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Tamping Track with a Harsco 6700 SJ2 Tamper 

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Right up close action as we watch a Harsco 6700 SJ2 tamper
surfacing and lining track. Surfacing means the track is being lifted
and cross leveled and super elevation added in if needed. Lining means
the track is being put into proper alignment, i.e. tangent track is made
straight, while curves are given the proper curvature.
When setting up to tamp a section, first the operator will make a plot
of the section which is recorded on a graph on the tamper's computer.
This plot is shown as a bell graph and it is a recording of where
the track geometry is currently at.
The computer then solves the plot as a "best fit". The operator then can
adjust the plot ordinates to build the curvature or tangent that he
wants the track to end up looking like. After that, the operator enters
the super elevation and saves the plot. When tamping track the tamper's
computer automatically aligns the track and adds the super elevation to
the track according to the directions given in the plot.
To raise the track the operator in the cab manually runs the light up
on the light carriage out front via a push button or toggle switch,
then runs it back down again for a run off. Some computers have it
set up so the operator can have the computer do the light raise.
Link to watch video where I go in depth explaining how the tamper
light system works:
• How a Jackson 6700 Tam...
Here's a playlist where I am tamping and showing you other aspects of
my tamper, including making a plot and going over the computer system:
• Jackson 6700 Tamper
Amtrac of Maryland was again in here the week of April 11, 2022 and
I will have more videos of them tamping to be shown at a much later date.
Amtrac of Maryland is not associated with Amtrak of the passenger trains.
However, Amtrac of Maryland does on occasion tamp track for Amtrak as
a contractor.
Video made July 09, 2021
#HarscoTamper#TampingTrack

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@tomeasley5979
@tomeasley5979 2 года назад
Dave, I had no idea that this was possible! That is an awesome machine! That operator has to be aware of a lot of different pieces of that machine. What a cool video, not to mention the closeup!! Thanks so much for teaching us about this machine and the process. Take care.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Tom and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@kens.3729
@kens.3729 2 года назад
I would have to bet this is one job you think about in your sleep. A Contracted Tamper to allow you to tape. Nice! 😬 Thanks Dave! 👍
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Tamp all day and at night I tamp in my mind.... Yep did enjoy watching someone else do it for a change. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the presentation today Ken.
@BKHolmstrom_23
@BKHolmstrom_23 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the vid! Just found this...brings back memories. I worked at Pandrol Jackson (before the Harsco buyout) in Ludington MI back in 1996. They were making these and 6300s at the time, along with some smaller equipment. They brought an original (no F40/GP40 unit) RMS Magnum grinder back that summer for major refurbishment...had caught on fire and was literally toast. When I first saw a 6700 in action on the test tracks out back, I was amazed at what these things did. I went on a couple of test runs in the cab...that was a blast. I was a part-time engineering college student (Ferris State) at the time, wanted to work there full time after graduation so bad, but it was not meant to be. Interesting turn of events with the Harsco buyout. I learned while working there that PJ "borrowed" the design for the 6300/6700s from Fairmont, and they were not happy about it. So Harsco buys Fairmont, and then absorbs PJ...one big happy family now. We were up that way several years ago (2014, 2015). I saw some bright, shiny new 6700s sitting out back.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 7 месяцев назад
That is correct, Pandrol Jackson and Fairmont were absorbed by Harsco. The tamper I run (not the one in this video) is PJ built in 1993/94. Pretty cool stuff you worked there way back when. Appreciate the nice comment and for writing in. Thank you so much for taking the time to check out the tamping track video my friend.
@71flatwindow
@71flatwindow Год назад
The people in Ludington michigan where that tamper was made, were very hard working and always friendly. Harsco was always one of my favorite factories to deliver and pick up freight.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 Год назад
The few folks I've dealt with at harsco were nice people. I don't know how much they have left up there after their move down south. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
@Quintavious-Gooch
@Quintavious-Gooch Год назад
I used to live about 40 yards from a busy track in South Memphis. I happened to be standing near the track one day when one of these machines came through maintaining the ties. I marveled at the power of the machine as it plunged the tampers into the ballast rock. The ground shook each time it grabbed hold of a tie. I know how difficult it is for a person to drive a shovel or pick into crushed limestone, so I was very impressed. I've always been interested in heavy machinery and this one was memorable.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 Год назад
Thank you Quintavious Gooch for taking the time to watch the video and write in. Tampers are pretty cool machines. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
@49commander
@49commander 3 месяца назад
I’ve watched the historical railroad movies and they had 20-30 men doing what that machine does with one person! Amazing and a lot less hard on people backs!!!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 3 месяца назад
Yes they did in the days of old Brian. When tampers and spikers came out they put thousands of gandies out of work. But no one wants to go back to hand tamping track anymore, we do love hydraulics on the RR. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.
@4everdc302
@4everdc302 2 года назад
No messing around, that's getting it done. Happy you could over see the progress&bring it to us 🚂🚃🚃🚃👷⚒️🇨🇦🇺🇲🙋
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Jackson's sales men used to promote their tampers with this: Deeper penetration, more insertions..... they don't use that anymore. Appreciate your checking out the home movie my friend.
@4everdc302
@4everdc302 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 that's fantastic! I got a snicker out of that👍🙋
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
@@4everdc302 😊
@4everdc302
@4everdc302 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 Dave. If I sent ya something where would I send it too?
@ericcoffedgp40
@ericcoffedgp40 2 года назад
Wow! What a neat piece of equipment to see in action up close and personal! Excellent video Dave!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Eric and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@ericcoffedgp40
@ericcoffedgp40 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 Sure thing! I'm always looking forward to seeing your videos!
@garybrown6897
@garybrown6897 Год назад
Hi Dave, just finished watching both videos on the ballast regulator and the tamping machine. Very very cool , and I'm amazed at how fast they work. Great looking track work. As always keepem on the rails.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 Год назад
Thanks Gary. They do go pretty fast. These guys were contractors and did a great job for us. First time we ever had contract tamper in here. Was very nice of you to write in and watch today.
@shawnpowell5876
@shawnpowell5876 2 года назад
Great video Dave and tutorial on the operations of the Tamping machine! Whoever designed this is a genius and definitely knows a lot about engineering and design! Idk what I'd do if I didn't get to watch your videos. Thanks again for sharing your videos with us along with your time and effort! #THATSRAILROADING
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you so much for the really swell comment Shawn! The electrical on these tampers is mind boggling. I have no idea how anyone even with an electrical degree could figure it out. I hate when something electrical goes wrong with mine. If you didn't get to watch my videos you'd find something better....LOL Do appreciate your checking out the presentation tonight my friend and your continued support of our channel.
@Boilermaker-Rick
@Boilermaker-Rick 2 года назад
Glad that you are getting some help tamping Dave. Another great video!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Rick and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@Boilermaker-Rick
@Boilermaker-Rick 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 i would never miss your videos Dave.
@tzadik36
@tzadik36 2 года назад
Thanks for this video. It seems that the tamper is lifting the track up, pushing ballast under the ties, and at the same time aligning the track. That's a bunch of tasks combined into one. I'd say heavy-duty tasks, but in railroading everything is heavy-duty.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
You are certainly correct in that observation Robin. Do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@elig9924
@elig9924 Год назад
You wouldn’t believe how hard it is to wash theses machines perfectly. It takes so much time and effort.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 Год назад
Oh yes I would, have pressure washed my tamper many times, wear a rain suit. It is a pain and time consuming. Thanks so much Eli for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@geraldblackburn4883
@geraldblackburn4883 2 года назад
CCRX Approved, have my vote ! 😎😎
@lewistodd9242
@lewistodd9242 2 года назад
Great video Dave. I don't remember ever seeing that view of the temper operation. I really enjoyed it. Have a great day.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thanks Lewis, I've never done one like this before, have never had the opportunity to be outside the tamper. Do appreciate your taking the time to write in and for watching the presentation tonight my friend.
@jeffrosen8237
@jeffrosen8237 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Dave. Now it makes scents how that works. Ive been trying to figure out how those little paddles could force rock under the ties. Another informative video! Thanks.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 6 месяцев назад
Your welcome Jeff. Great to hear you found out something new. We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to watch the video and write in my friend.
@raymondsprengelmeyer1278
@raymondsprengelmeyer1278 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing Dave! You had a chance to watch tamping from outside the cab! A new experience for a seasoned railroader!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Raymond. When I first started running the tamper I spend a lot of time outside watching and trying to figure out how it worked, but now I am the only operator here so never get to be outside anymore. Appreciate your watching my friend.
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 2 года назад
Ever see one of the really old tampers? They didn’t have paddles to push the ballast under the tie. They had a series of vertical drop hammers that beat the ballast down between the ties. Haven’t seen one of those since the 60’s.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Old tamper we had here way back was a track jack and a lining bar Bill! Glad those days are over! Appreciate your writing in and for watching the show my friend.
@Apache-fm8tc
@Apache-fm8tc 2 года назад
you are a true master of knowledge , really get a behind the scenes look into railroading . I appreciate all you bring to the hobby .Mr . Dave know you are appreciated and peace and happiness to you and your family .
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you very much Apache for the very nice comment. We appreciate your taking the time to write in and watch the show today my friend.
@keithludowitz9637
@keithludowitz9637 2 года назад
Dave, one of your best videos! I get it now; 'tamping' is actually lifting the rails and pushing ballast beneath the ties. I appreciate so much what you do, and your sharing that with us.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
You are certainly welcome Keith. We certainly do appreciate your tuning in to the channel and watching the presentation my friend and glad to hear you enjoyed.
@KWMeikle
@KWMeikle 2 года назад
I really appreciate being able to watch this video. Thanks
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Glad you like the presentation Kevin. We do appreciate your taking the time to write in and watch my friend.
@dezertraider
@dezertraider 2 года назад
VERY COOL DAVID..BETTER THAN BY HAND..STAY WELL
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thanks Ralph and yep, those days of hand jacking and hand tamping track are way behind me! LOL Appreciate your taking the time to check out tonight's presentation my friend.
@PlanetMojo
@PlanetMojo 2 года назад
Great video as usual my friend! Jupiter II System? Wow, that's the name of the space ship on Lost in Space, that's a big flashback! I've always been fascinated with track maintenance equipment! My favorite when I was a kid was the track grinder - all of the sparks made for a great show. My favorite nowadays is the tamper of course 😉 They are replacing several small bridges on the BNSF line down by the Mississippi River as I type. They are using some pretty interesting machines to do that, but it's hard to see going by at 60mph! The bridges are pre-fab for the most part, they tear one out and put in a new one in a day or so!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you. I've always wondered why they named it the Jupiter system. The old Jupiter 1 had many problems, was a fiend to diagnose if something went wrong. The new 2 is much more reliable and user friendly. There is a 2 inch thick ring binder book that comes with it explaining how it works and how to troubleshoot. But the computer also does a good bit of the troubleshooting with the J2 system. Tampers are an electrical nightmare! Pre fab bridges are amazing! Appreciate your tuning in and watching the show my friend.
@halfinchholes88
@halfinchholes88 2 года назад
Nice!! My wobbley bolster pocket and sidesill buildups gonna love this...
@brianhickey5949
@brianhickey5949 2 года назад
All I can think is that this is really cool! A purpose-built machine engineered to straighten and align the track by adjusting how it sets in the ballast. Fascinating! Is a once-through enough to accomplish the alignment and all?
@brandonrickert9367
@brandonrickert9367 2 года назад
Sometimes it takes many steps . Passes you could say over the area to get it where it needs to go . You are also usually restricted depending on the class of track to only align so many inches over or up at a time. Causing you to take more passes at it to get it where it's needed it. It also lifts the track if needed not just side to side and aligned
@brianhickey5949
@brianhickey5949 2 года назад
@@brandonrickert9367 That's cool. I am guessing it is the weight of the train moving the ballast over time that makes for misalignment?
@brandonrickert9367
@brandonrickert9367 2 года назад
@@brianhickey5949yes among other reasons there are many reasons . Is a brief yeah basically. But weathering washing out ballast . Improper drainage underneath . Various dianamic force on the rail you can get movement from not enough Anchors. Which hold the ties in place. Or from missing loose spikes .everything over time can cause movement . Or a combination of it al
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the presentation Brian. Brandon did a good job in answering your question. Do appreciate your taking the time to write in and watch my friend.
@fountainvalley100
@fountainvalley100 2 года назад
It’s amazing that just pushing some rocks under the ties you can firm up the support of the tie in the new position without settlement. I’m guessing the teeth on the tamper wear out regularly.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Yep Kent, the tamping tools do wear out, they not hard to change, just 3 bolts. After tamping the ballast does settle. AREMA figures it takes about 1 million tons of train traffic run over a tamped track before it get fully compacted. Some RR's have a stabilizer which compacts the tamped ballast. On Class 3 and above track there is always a slow order of 25 on newly tamped track. The stabilizer helps to lesson the amount of time the slow order is on. Here our track speed is 25 so we don't need slow orders on newly tamped track.
@rayshutsa6690
@rayshutsa6690 2 года назад
Dave thank you for the video on the 6700. This is an amazing machine it levels the track perfectly. I love the the tour around the 6700 the look in the drivers seat. Thank you for the explanation on how the 6700 works. Love your channel . 😀❤🇨🇦
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Ray and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@StormySkyRailProductions
@StormySkyRailProductions 2 года назад
Nice surfacing track video Dave and the explanation on how the 6700 works, Brings back more memories of us working around the surfacing crews at CP.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Those guys from way back that hand jacked and hand tamped track would be amazed at seeing this now. When we started here that's how we tamped since we didn't have a tamper for many years to begin with, thankfully we didn't do much of it back then! Appreciate your taking the time to check out the presentation my friend.
@StormySkyRailProductions
@StormySkyRailProductions 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 Your very welcome , I started with the railroad when we did a lot of the work by hand such as the track jacks and the tamping bars.
@johnsmart964
@johnsmart964 2 года назад
Thank you for bringing us this excellent video which is very helpful in helping the people understand what is involved in keeping the railroad in top class condition. It is always impressive to see these machines at work, they are so much faster than they used to be and they save a lot of man hours as well. Thank you for showing us this in close detail, we would never normally get a chance to see it in this close detail.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome John and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@jimjohnston7688
@jimjohnston7688 2 года назад
Fascinating to watch that machine work. Just amazing the complexity of that machine.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Glad you liked the show Jim. Tampers are an electrical nightmare, I have no clue how anyone could figure out all the stuff that goes on inside the machine with them. Certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch today my friend.
@darrylwmurphy738
@darrylwmurphy738 Год назад
Dave, your the same way when it comes to concentrating on your job on various equipment
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 Год назад
Yes sir Darryl. it was neat for me to be outside watching for a change tho instead of inside the cab operating, a rare treat. Very much want to thank you for watching the video my friend.
@nashguy207
@nashguy207 2 года назад
Thats a pretty cool piece of machinery. Thanks for sharing.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome nashguy and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@jasonbabila6006
@jasonbabila6006 2 года назад
Our surfacing crew got a totally rebuilt Jackson 6700 from our Brainerd equipment shop last year and a 100% new Kershaw regulator a couple of months ago
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Nice Jason. This guy told me he has been on some transit jobs where they gave him a track chart and they wanted him to put the existing track to within 1/32 of an inch where that track is on the chart, and he says he has done it with this machine! This machine was rebuilt the year before by Precision which is located in Independence KS. 6700 when calibrated right do a very good job. Appreciate your writing in and for watching tonight my friend.
@peterismyfirstname2872
@peterismyfirstname2872 2 года назад
Sounds like me eating. Eating the plate of food. The plate, the table it sits on and the first few inches of the flooring. Best regards Respectful funshine submitted.🌄🌅🇺🇲👍
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Appreciate the humor and for taking the time to watch today Peter funshine.... :-)
@peterismyfirstname2872
@peterismyfirstname2872 2 года назад
Really cool. The machine sounds like me in the morning before I have my first cup of coffee trying to wake up first thing in the morning before I have my first cup of coffee in the morning before I have my first cup of coffee trying to wake up first thing in the morning before I have my first cup of coffee in the morning before I have my first cup of coffee trying to wake up first thing in the morning before I have my first cup of coffee in the morning before I have my first cup of coffee trying to wake up first thing in the morning before I have my first cup of coffee ☕. Thanks Dave! respectful funshine submitted. Best regards.🇺🇲🌅👍🌄🙏
@peterismyfirstname2872
@peterismyfirstname2872 2 года назад
Repeating over and over the sentence mimicking the sounds of the machine. Aren't I a clever one? All I need is an emoji of someone patting himself on the back. LoL.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
All day long listening to that same sound, it can put you to sleep. Appreciate your writing in and taking the time to watch the show Peter. And, enjoy that first cup of coffee tomorrow morning..... LOL Hey, maybe watch this video again while drinking it???
@peterismyfirstname2872
@peterismyfirstname2872 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 Yes Dave thanks for the reply. I wish I could see such beautiful countryside like you do. I'm glad you liked my funshine comments. I gamble sometimes and hope people know I'm kidding around. Never making fun of people other than myself.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
@@peterismyfirstname2872 😊👍
@geraldblackburn4883
@geraldblackburn4883 2 года назад
I have seen these tampers, pretty good and amazing piece of equipment.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you Gerald for taking the time to check out our latest home movie my friend.
@TriGogglin
@TriGogglin 2 года назад
Fantastic Dave, always see the tampers from a distance.. you know what they are doing, but you never see what they're doing, thanks for the close up of the operation. Crazy seeing the track lift. Thanks for posting, love your videos, keep um coming buddy, stay safe out there.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the presentation tonight Pappy. Not many videos out there that get this close and get this kind of explanation. Do appreciate your checking us out my friend and for the very nice comment. PS: Valerie watched before you..... can't let that happen again.... LOL
@TriGogglin
@TriGogglin 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 🤣 no fair I was eating dinner, ill get her next time 🤣
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
@@TriGogglin 😉
@SmallMartingale
@SmallMartingale 2 года назад
Very cool! You got us some really great shots, thanks Dave! Man those machines sure do live a hard life
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you David, glad you enjoyed the presentation today. We certainly appreciate your writing in and for watching my friend.
@thomaseriksson6256
@thomaseriksson6256 2 года назад
Nice Video. Nice to hear from you again
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you very much Thomas, glad you liked the presentation my friend.
@johndanaher6371
@johndanaher6371 2 года назад
Wow, thanks for the Indepth description Dave. It was very helpful. I also enjoyed watching the machine do all the work. Just fascinating!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you very much John for the very nice comment. I'm really glad you liked this one and do appreciate your taking the time to check it out my friend.
@andrewlaverghetta715
@andrewlaverghetta715 2 года назад
This whole machine is fantastic! Amazing!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Really glad you enjoyed Andrew. We do appreciate your tuning in and watching my good man.
@docphillips5153
@docphillips5153 2 года назад
Great video on the hard-working track gear that moves America.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you Doc for taking the time to check out our latest home movie my friend.
@alandaters8547
@alandaters8547 2 года назад
After watching this I went back to some of your other tamper videos, this makes it easier to get the big picture of this complex operation. Who do we write to and ask that they get you the Jupiter computer upgrade lol .... Oh yeah, thanks for answering the question about indexing, JustJoe73 beat me to it!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Jupiter 2 upgrade is big bucks, depending on options around 75 to $100,000! And, it not a simple thing to do, tons of re wiring. I'm pushing for it but the mine also currently has major expenses at the prep plant and underground to deal with also. As long as the train is running we kinda get the back burner if you know what I mean. Really glad you are enjoying Alan and lot's more good stuff coming your way my friend so stay tuned.
@dorothycole8611
@dorothycole8611 2 года назад
Quite a machine! Good video of this operation.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you, glad you enjoyed tonight's home move.
@irongoatrocky2343
@irongoatrocky2343 2 года назад
Always fun to watch someone else do the work!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Yes it is! Since i'm the only one here who can run a tamper, never get to see this myself. Do certainly appreciate your taking the time to write in and watch the presentation my friend.
@chesterraybon3442
@chesterraybon3442 2 года назад
Nice to set back and look at what you do every day. Take care.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed Chester. it was nice for me to watch someone else tamp. I never get to see the outside of the tamping operation. These guys did a great job and it was fun chatting with an operator who tamps only for a living. Appreciate your checking us out tonight and writing in my friend.
@rickcooper6817
@rickcooper6817 2 года назад
Thanks Dave! That is an amazing piece of equipment and interesting to watch. The old timers would have spit tobacco juice all over the place to have seen this thing work! Nice!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Rick. Can you imagine those guys building the transcontinental RR or the PRR railroad over Horseshoe Curve if they could see what track work is like now! When the tamper first came out it put thousands of RR workers out of a job, but who wants to go back to hand jacking and hand tamping track! Appreciate your checking out the show tonight my friend.
@valeriebassett3107
@valeriebassett3107 2 года назад
Looks like the ballast is pretty good size. Do you usually always use the same size for drainage purposes? Very exciting to watch this amazing machine. You are so wonderful for sharing and telling us how things operate. Have a great day!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
It's called here #3. Some have a slang term for it and call it road nuggets since this is the size of stone that access roads for like gas well pads have their base made from. It packs in well and is the perfect size for tamping under ties. Stones are about the size of tennis balls and under. Stone the size of baseballs or golf balls would not provide as much resistance to the track sliding as the #3's will. #'s give good drainage also. We always use the same size stone here. The big key with ballast is to have the stones with sharp edges. Smooth edges would be like building a track on marbles, it would roll on the smooth stones. Ballast does have a life, the more the trains run over it and the more it gets tamped, that makes the stone more rounded instead of sharp as years go by. Was going to do a video on ballast, but when I do, now you wont have to watch it! LOL Great question Valerie and thanks my friend for watching tonight.
@chucksmitleyv145
@chucksmitleyv145 2 года назад
We really have come a long way in Railroad maintenance. From a gang of gandy dancers to one guy in a mostly automated machine.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Yes we have Chuck. Can you imagine what those RR workers of old who hand jacked and hand tamped track would now think watching this machine. When tampers came out they put thousands of workers on the unemployment line. But who wants to go back to hand tamping.... Appreciate your taking the time to check out the presentation my friend.
@easydranch
@easydranch Год назад
There's some track here in SE Kansas that could use that machine. They've been replacing ties but there's for sure more improvements coming here. I'll be on the lookout for a track tramper.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 Год назад
Thank you for writing in with the nice comment easydranch. We really appreciate your taking the time to check out the tamping track video my friend.
@ronhelman3985
@ronhelman3985 2 года назад
That's really cool Dave, learn something new everyday. Thanks for sharing Dave!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Ron and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@kennkrizsanitz7820
@kennkrizsanitz7820 2 года назад
your letting someone else mess with your track, getting used to supervising. lol. nice video Dave another look at stuff I don't get to see much.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Was a nice change to be outside watching. It been many years since that happened. Glad you enjoyed the show Kenn and we do appreciate your taking the time to check the presentation out my friend.
@ianhunter2957
@ianhunter2957 2 года назад
Needs more Ballast the beds looking empty and the regulator to keep it neat also some of the spikes were loose the rail came up but the tie stayed down great job Dave .
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Absolutely Ian, the track as you see it is unsafe for a train to pass over at track speed. Regulator was down track on the below curve and wasn't in the video. Cribs will get filled in and then track broomed off, then a quality control crew was behind him fixing loose spikes and other corrections. Thanks for writing in and watching today my friend.
@bobblenuts
@bobblenuts 2 года назад
Thanks for this one Dave, I really needed to see it. Now I understand the tamping process much better. Another Great Video - Thank You🍺🥨🍺
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome bobblenuts, cool to hear you learned some new things, that makes me happy that you and others find out new things from these videos. it is special to me when you guys write in and tell me.
@mustralineabsorbine5082
@mustralineabsorbine5082 2 года назад
Thanks for the great insights. That tamper system is pretty simple in concept, but very technically challenging. Interesting. :)
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome nustraline and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@davesflix
@davesflix 2 года назад
Good operator. Thanks Dave
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words and for watching the presentation today my friend.
@michaelball760
@michaelball760 2 года назад
I made the mistake when I was learning to run our old tamper one time. Turned the lights off while still clamped and went to get out of the machine. We had a nice hump in the track that took some work to get out 😂
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Not to feel bad Michael, when I was learning, had the grade and line rail selector the wrong way, I was starting into a bridge approach and when I clamped the track shot straight up.... fortunately I didn't tamp it and the track fell back almost to where it was, couple of trains over it and was back to where it should have been. Thanks my friend for watching tonight. (I got a lot more goof up stories I did too)
@briankemp5206
@briankemp5206 2 года назад
Great close up video on the tamper in action!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the presentation Brian. We do certainly appreciate your taking the time to check it out my friend.
@blistkenq1278
@blistkenq1278 2 года назад
Love watching your videos keep it up!!!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Was very nice of you to take the time and visit with us today to watch the presentation Blistken Q and for the very nice comment, so glad you are enjoying.
@01ripkirby
@01ripkirby 8 месяцев назад
Dave, your videoing of the machine in action is great. Much better than the view from your cab but I understand you are a one-man band and cannot be in two places at once. I would like to know more about the lifting system. The older Canron Tampers that I grew up with had what they called the Delta Lifting system. One projector shining an infrared beam over a variable shadow board at the track lifting point and two receivers at the rear. These were kept level at all times by a pendulum system and cross level and surfacing was done by two hand wheels in the cab attached to the shadow board gear box. Lowering the shadow board 1/8th of an inch would result in a 1 inch track lift after 250 feet. This was due to the receivers getting onto lifted track and therefore increasing the lift more. After the full reference distance, usually 250 feet no further increase occurred. I would be keen to find out the system on your machine. Cheers Geoff Cox, Australia
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 8 месяцев назад
My system is pretty much the same Geoff. Difference is the shadow board does not get lifted. There is a light carriage out front of the tamper and there is a light on it. From inside the cab I raise or lower that light. Then when the jack beam picks the rail up, the light shines thru the shadow board into a receiver on the rear of the machine. When the light hits the center photo cell in the receiver, that stops the jack beam from jacking rail. Here is a video I made some time ago that explains how the lifting system works on the outside of the tamper: Thanks so much my friend for watching. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DS-i7k8IVQs.html
@01ripkirby
@01ripkirby 8 месяцев назад
@@ccrx6700 Thanks Dave. keep on tamping,
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 8 месяцев назад
@@01ripkirby 😊👍
@mackfisher4487
@mackfisher4487 2 года назад
great machine thanks for showing me how it works.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Mack and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@billsmith3195
@billsmith3195 2 года назад
Fascinating! Wonderful machinery. Thanks Dave.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Bill and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@anthonytidey2005
@anthonytidey2005 2 года назад
Re rail creep, does cwr creep less presumably Canada you stager the joints this causes the vehicles to sway, and they are more likly to derail, again by the same manager. But in The US this is the practice see a badly tamped if ever, ELS RR videos, where the train is rocking and rolling. Thanks again for your time to make these great technical video's.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Anthony and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Steel rail creeps (expands from heat) the same amount whether it's welded or jointed. With welded every tie is anchored to prevent heat buckles, which doesn't always happen, CWR has more buckles than jointed. With jointed the joint gaps take up that expansion also not every tie is anchored on jointed track.
@derrickanderson4932
@derrickanderson4932 2 года назад
Hey Dave, great video.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you Derrick. Really pleased to hear you enjoyed the home movie, we certainly appreciate your watching my friend.
@Arkay315
@Arkay315 2 года назад
That is cool how it packs the gravel under the railroad ties
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you Arkay for taking the time to check out our latest home movie my friend.
@bradzeigler
@bradzeigler 2 года назад
Dave- how do they get that equipment on your tracks? Does it come in by truck or do they float it by barge?
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 2 года назад
it would be trucked in. this piece is owned by the mine. my guess is that the rail contractor employee was running the machine.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Good question Brad and all the MOW equipment that comes in is trucked. Nothing ever comes by barge, no way to off load it here. Appreciate your checking out the home movie my friend.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Contractor was running it rear speaker. Gave me a nice break!
@Santafefrank
@Santafefrank 2 года назад
Thanks Dave looking good
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Frank and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@stevenmetzger3385
@stevenmetzger3385 2 года назад
@08:36 Looks like some greenery needs brush cutter machine!!!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
This was way before we got the brush cutter in. All that brush was cut last fall, video made in July. Thanks for checking it out today Steven.
@richardbause2453
@richardbause2453 2 года назад
Good job Dave 👏 👍 with 3,200 +/- ties per mile, that's a whole lot of liften and a squeeze n. Richard Bause
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you Richard and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Much better than hand jacking and hand tamping!!!
@richardbause2453
@richardbause2453 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 been there, done ✔ that. Old school 🏫 of railroad teaching, also weight loss 😄😃.
@bennetts-revenge_2
@bennetts-revenge_2 2 года назад
Wow that's a pretty cool piece of equipment! Thanks for sharing!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Brenda and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@jonathanhasnip3700
@jonathanhasnip3700 2 года назад
Doing a cracking job there for you Dave, fascinating machine! must be interesting for you being able to see it from a different angle? Thanks for sharing Dave Really cool video Sir many thanks
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Glad you like the presentation Jason. We do appreciate your taking the time to write in and watch my friend.
@jonathanhasnip3700
@jonathanhasnip3700 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 I do VERY much appreciate your videos Dave, thanks very much
@eugeneellison6479
@eugeneellison6479 2 года назад
For added job security, you could turn me loose with that sucker and in the aftermath of my trail of destruction you could be busy repairing track 😆 🤣
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
That's okay Eugene, I like to fix up messed up track. Give me something to do.... LOL Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video today my friend.
@michaelpass2176
@michaelpass2176 2 года назад
Well Dave I’m back. I might be going to the VA hospital sometime end of the month or first of next. I’ll be inpatient, but going to school update on my blindness update in a seeing world.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Really hope it works out well for you Michael, you've had enough to deal with lately. Keep me posted.
@rebelrailroader
@rebelrailroader 2 года назад
Great video Dave. I didn't like distractions in the cab while tamping either. The Fairmont MKIII I ran had a lot to keep track of, some of it was still manual controlled, not like the tampers today. I've walked many miles beside the tamper too making sure the operator didn't mess up my track.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thanks Zach, glad you like the home movie. For those who have never ran a tamper, they have no clue all the stuff that happens and goes on when tamping and all the stuff that you have to watch on the machine and the track, you can really mess a piece of track up quick if something goes awry and operator not paying attention, I've done it! A good ground man is a tamper's operators best friend out there, unfortionately I have no ground man anymore, used to, so I gotta pay even closer attention now, cause if it screws up, I gotta fix it.....LOL An idiot tie inserter operator can really mess up track too. We've had some of those, have to have a tamper behind him. Last several TRIPP operators we've had in here were really good and I had to do hardly anything behind them.
@rebelrailroader
@rebelrailroader 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 good ground man and good operators are essential. I've seen guys screw up track replacing ties by hand. They didn't do it after I made them fix it by hand.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
@@rebelrailroader 👍😉
@brandonrickert9367
@brandonrickert9367 2 года назад
Tamp it tamp it good get them bars help them out hahhah! . Wish I had a place I'd send you a photo of today Dave. 300ft bridge with crossing through it ripping it out
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Appreciate your taking the time to check out the video today Brandon. I would put up a facebook page for our channel where everyone could post, but then I'd have to moderate it and I simply do not have any spare time to do that. If you have a facebook page you can send me a link to yours where I could see the pic.
@brandonrickert9367
@brandonrickert9367 2 года назад
Face book no go ,haha Track supervisor IS IN MY FREINDS LIST LOL!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
@@brandonrickert9367 😊👍
@apmazurka
@apmazurka 2 года назад
I Remember back in the day watching Conrail which had a Tamper Called the "Dyna Cat ???' It had (4) arms which tamped (4) Ties at a time and while tamping the ties the machine would advance forward while the tamper was stationary on a slide platform I guess you could call it underneath the machine = It never stopped in motion most sinister machine I ever seen. Andy M
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Awesome Andy, I had never heard of that. Plasser makes a tamper called a Dyna Cat that does the same thing, now am wondering if they got that idea from Conrail? Cat = continuous action tamper. Appreciate your tuning in to tonight's presentation my friend.
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn 2 года назад
I recently saw a video of a RR accident where the "controller" was told by a maintenance crew that they had cleared the line. The controller sent a train on the track and it hit some maintenance equipment that was still on the line. I asked about the track circuit in this context (I figured that the equipment would close the circuit and approaching trains drivers would see a caution and then a STOP.) I was told that these machines have insulated wheels and don't affect the track circuit. In your experience, is that possible/true? I've seen videos where maintenance equipment on the rails caused a crossing gate to come down.
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 2 года назад
yes it can, hi- rail vehicles can too, and can switch to being non-insulated also.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
All hi rail trucks and MOW equipment have plastic inserts in their wheel bearing bushing to prevent shunting a track circuit, this is done so when working around a grade crossing, the equipment won't set off the crossing lights. The tamper also has plastic inserts on the jack beam clamps. They may be made out of a harder teflon type material, I'm not sure exactly what the bushings are, I've always just heard them called plastic inserts. If you saw a crossing gate come down from an MOW equipment in the circuit, then that bushing could have been faulty or even removed for some reason. Hope that explains it for ya John.
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 100%!!
@joezaloga
@joezaloga 2 года назад
I sure dont miss walking on those rocks
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Frozen ballast or snow covered ballast on the shoulders is very annoying walking around a piece of equipment, I am very careful in winter doing that. Do appreciate your taking the time to check out the video my friend.
@joezaloga
@joezaloga 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 Thank you I really miss the JOB except walking on those rocks
@zincwick99
@zincwick99 2 года назад
What an amazing price of machinery.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
When tampers came out they put thousands of railroad workers on the unemployment line. But hydraulics so much nicer to do this job now than by hand jacking and hand tamping. Appreciate your taking the time to check out the presentation tonight my friend.
@jadall77
@jadall77 5 месяцев назад
I went through and found this because I seen him using the tamper now in like 2 or 3 vids now I get to see what it does.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 5 месяцев назад
Appreciate your checking the tamping show out Jadall. This video was a contract tamper we had in here, not me running it.
@josephdahl9354
@josephdahl9354 2 года назад
Another great video Dave. Thank you so much for your content. I really enjoy your videos.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you Joseph and you are welcome. Appreciate your watching and for the very nice comment my friend.
@railfanninginohiowithjessi9844
@railfanninginohiowithjessi9844 2 года назад
that was really great
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you very much Jessie, glad you liked the presentation my friend.
@iamanempoweredone6064
@iamanempoweredone6064 2 года назад
Hypnotic
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the presentation, we do appreciate your taking the time to watch my friend.
@kevinpoore5626
@kevinpoore5626 2 года назад
Hey I'm number one looks like y'all having fun
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Congratulations Kevin! You win the grand prize tonight. Get to watch every one of my videos in the future for no charge.... LOL Thanks for checking us out my good man.
@supercuda1950
@supercuda1950 2 года назад
Another fantastic video. Does your m railroad ever grind the rails? I think it would be interesting to see the rail before and after. Good day to you, hope the warm weather is coming your way.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thanks Rupert, really appreciate your writing in and for watching today. Good question and no sir we don't. Not being able to interchange with another RR means we can't get those huge rail grinders in here. We could truck a small switch grinder in but they charge tremendous amounts of money and get paid whether they are sitting waiting on trains or if they are grinding. I sure wish they did grind here, but that is also something that should have been done many years ago and kept up to save our rails. Rail grinding not only saves on rail replacement but also car wheel wear.
@rodchallis8031
@rodchallis8031 2 года назад
Great stuff Dave.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you Rod. We do appreciate your taking the time to check out the presentation my friend.
@JohnTBlock
@JohnTBlock 2 года назад
Real Railroadin' ! 😁😉🙂
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to check out the video and write in John.
@thomasglessner6067
@thomasglessner6067 2 года назад
Dave, How does the machine get to your location? Is it trucked in? Does the operator visually position the machine before the fingers dig into the ballast? Really appreciate the close-up video. Most companies frown on people close to the action. Very interesting to me. Thank you for sharing your world with us.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
It's trucked in Thomas, big expense. Glad you enjoyed the show. Good question on positioning. On my tamper and this one the indexing ahead is manually controlled, he has a foot pedal, I have a push button. Harsco does make a tie finder add on that will automatically stop the machine over the center of a tie. It looks for the tie plates via a magnetic field. With tie finder technology an operator can start the machine going and literally walk along side it outside
@danielrongo2367
@danielrongo2367 2 года назад
Cool videointerest neat stuff
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Daniel and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@herbcraven7146
@herbcraven7146 2 года назад
Hey Dave, great video as always!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you Herb, really swell to hear you enjoyed tonight's presentation my friend.
@minutemanmac
@minutemanmac 2 года назад
Ground is just thawing here, getting ready to tamp in 2 weeks or so. Gotta pull 5" of elevation out of a few curves that have long been neglected from their high speed days.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Hope you have a lot of ballast to work with! Old school thinking on the RR was lot's of super elevation. thinking has changed a good bit in the past 30 or so years with much less super. Our track was built in 197/76 but US Steel, and I have an old super elevation chart from USS, much more super then they recommended than AREMA does now. This was 25 MPH track and USS put 5 inches in many of the higher degree curves when built. We've taken all of that out, I think the most we have now is a few curves with 3 in them.
@MillBrookRailroad
@MillBrookRailroad 2 года назад
Loved the video! Thanks for posting! I really need one of these tampers. Too bad they don't make them small enough for my track. I tamp and level by hand, but I only get the cross level real good.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thank you and glad you enjoyed. Cross level is very important. hand jacking and tamping with jitterbugs or worse shovels or lining bars is back breaking work! Adding super elevation may or may not be advisable for your track. Depends on the degree of curvature and the speed you are taking the curves at. I have a chart that shows me the degree of curve, the MPH and then the amount of super to put in a curve. Appreciate your taking the time to check the video out my friend.
@MillBrookRailroad
@MillBrookRailroad 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 It's all shovels and lining bars here. Thankfully, the lining bars I use are smaller and much lighter than my great-great grandfather's lining bars that he had on the White River Railroad in Vermont. Those lining bars have been holding up wood piles on the family farm since the 1935 when the railroad was torn up.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
@@MillBrookRailroad 😊👍
@geoffreymoore1510
@geoffreymoore1510 2 года назад
dave, this was another great video. I can't really add anymore but just to ask does the driver have a mirror camera transmitting to his cab for positioning? Sorry if boring question.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Great to hear you liked the presentation Geoffrey and we do thank you for checking it out and writing in my friend. A very good question and the answer is no it does not. Some new tampers are set up to follow a geometry truck using GPS, it's a complicated system to describe in a comment as you can imagine. Technology on the RR is ever increasingly amazing. Just like the positive train control now on the locos.
@opieshomeshop
@opieshomeshop 2 года назад
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOORNING VEEITNAM!!!! I mean Bridge 2! I mean Bridge 7!!!!! :)
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to check out the presentation my friend.
@opieshomeshop
@opieshomeshop 2 года назад
@@ccrx6700 Always learn something watching your videos.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
@@opieshomeshop 😚👍
@RickOshay...
@RickOshay... 2 года назад
I used to do this the old fashion way... Gandy dance... Many years ago for Burlington Northern... You know what i'm talking about?
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Yep we hand tamped track with jacks and lining bars way back before they got us our first tamper, an old Fairmont many years ago. Never a good day hand tamping.... Thanks for writing in Rick and for watching the video my good man.
@tomharrington1393
@tomharrington1393 2 года назад
Always wondered what this machine does with the gizmo way out front.🚂🚂🚂
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
Your welcome Tom and we do certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.
@henrystarring7413
@henrystarring7413 Год назад
So we just got one of these machines, what's the best way to learn how to operate it when you don't have anyone to teach you, I've been watching all kinds of these videos on it and have learned a lot, but I know there's still a lot to learn.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 Год назад
Oh my gosh Henry, I could talk to you for weeks on how to run one. No way I can even begin to explain in a comment reply. Where are you located at? you can really mess up some track quick if you don't know what you're doing. What operating system does yours have? If it's Jupiter 2 I will not be of much help. I have an old QNX windows system.
@henrystarring7413
@henrystarring7413 Год назад
@@ccrx6700 I'm in Hartford Michigan, and the unit we have dose have the Jupiter 2 system, I have already been tamping on some Tangent track and getting a understanding of how the machine works. if you have messenger, look me up there so we can chat.
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 Год назад
@@henrystarring7413 No messenger, but if you want to email me, we can then exchange phone numbers, peppypetsdaily@ yahoo.com Do you know if your tamper has been calibrated? If not, then after tamping tangent track get a level board and check cross level on the rails after it has been tamped. Your level board should read zero or very close to it difference.
@AP9575-jd
@AP9575-jd 2 года назад
That's one crazy machine. There sure are a lot of moving parts. So. how do you start a job like that I mean do you have to go to the bridge first to find out where it sits? And then back up? I know you would want a smooth transition into the bridge on both sides. Stay Safe!
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
to tamp a section, the operator will first make a plot of the track, that shows the current geometry of the track, then the plot can be manually adjusted by changing the ordinates in the plot. And also you must manually add the super elevation to the plot, then the computer will put the track to how you have built the curve. Track surface when done must match the bridge surface obviously. It''s easy. thanks for watching Anthony.
@apmazurka
@apmazurka 2 года назад
Nice Job = Thanks again!
@kylecorley1907
@kylecorley1907 2 года назад
I build the frames for these about to be starting the ts30 ill tell ya tho it is cool to see it in action
@ccrx6700
@ccrx6700 2 года назад
That's awesome Kyle. Someday I would love to tour Harsco factory to see them being built. Appreciate your watching the show today my friend.
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