Tangled vs Frozen - Nostalgia Critic 

Tangled. And I respectfully disagree with your assessment of Mother Gothel as a weak villain. She is the only villain I've ever seen in a children's film which is based on a very real kind of person that a child might come across in their own life: the psychologically abusive adult. Most of us have memories of a psychologically toxic adult from our childhoods. A relative, a teacher, or perhaps even a parent. Part of the reason I prefer Tangled over Frozen is that it has the most realistic villain of any Disney film. She doesn't want to kill Rapunzel or have a big convoluted plan to rule the kingdom. In fact, she is totally indifferent everyone and everything except herself. All she wants is to stay young forever, and she doesn't care who she has to hurt to get what she wants. She's a classic clinical narcissist.

Wait, what? The villain is weak in tangled? The villain is amazing in tangled. They've made her relatable and believable. The manipulative way she handles rapazunle through song is chilling.

Team Tangled!

I love tangled. When Eugene wakes up and says "Did I ever tell you I've got a thing for brunettes?" It gets me every time.

Tangled is better for me personally because Eugene and Rapunzel are simply more fun of characters to watch....also that quote to end all quotes when he fights Maximus with the frying pan, "You should know that this is the strangest thing I've ever done!"

Tangled is better, in my opinion. 1) The story is more cohesive 2) Better villain 3) The lead characters are more likable 4) The animation seems better. The lantern sequence is especially stunning.

Tangled of course ✌🏻

Rewatching this editorial and giving it some more thought, I'm starting to understand why Tangled is better but Frozen is more popular. Tangled's story was surprisingly mature and realistic and I feel that a lot of young adults could relate to Rapunzel's road to emancipation. But its subtlety and maturity lost its target audience: children. Frozen is a much more appealing movie to a child, visually and narratively. I also have immense respect for Tangled and how they had Rapunzel and Eugene wait before they get married, and I love how they explore that more in the series with getting Eugene to learn to let Rapunzel have her space and live her life.

I personally prefer Tangled. It just seems like a better explained and more inventive movie.

When I first went to watch Frozen I honestly expected it completely blow Tangled out of the water, but after it was over I decided that I really much preferred Tangled and enjoyed it a whole lot more. I couldn't get into the characters in Frozen, I found Elsa and Anna to be really frustrating characters. The gang in Tangled were much more likeable and had understandable motives, and its an unpopular opinion but I think the music in Tangled is better.

Tangled > Frozen Reasons imo are: Tangled did most of these elements first and better. Frozen had a terrible storyline that unravelled itself, undeveloped characters, and no back story. Frozen relies on its music, comic relief, and making a girl not rely on a dude. It did have some values like teaching trust BUT Tangeled did it and why doesn't it get any praise. Frozen was just a new Disney princess profit slut to sell merchandise. Its not awful but come on almost everyone raves its a master piece like Beauty and the Beast. No its not a master piece! Its a decent movie at best with catchy songs to sell crap. Tangled is the master piece! TEAM TANGLED!!!!! Sorry to rant an aged veteran at seeing this argument.

Tangled is better. Frozen just got so big because Elsa's song "Let it go" and she also says those 7 words that we all here our conscience say, "conceal, don't feel, don't let them know." (I mean who doesn't have a secrete)

I've always liked tangled more. I really like the dynamic between flynn and rapunzel, they were willing to die for each other! And mainly I remember wanting to watch it again after I had seen it before frozen even came out

Screw it, Tangled is better.

I like Frozen, but Tangled definitely wins for me. I liked how manipulative Gothel was, and the little details hidden here and there- every time she shows affection, it's to Rapunzel's hair- ex. "I love you most", notice that she kisses the hair instead of her forehead. (On the flip side, when Flynn is being affectionate, he moves her hair away from her face.) I actually liked Tangled's songs better. "Let it Go" was the only Frozen song I really enjoyed and really remember, aside from maybe "Do You Want to Build a Snowman". I find Flynn and Rapunzel to be some of the funniest and most heartwarming characters I've ever seen come out of Disney- Flynn especially. I don't really know why, but to me, Anna and Kristoff just don't measure up. Elsa does, but the movie doesn't really focus as much on her as much. Last but not least, the animation. I love winter. I love ice. The scenes where Elsa does magic are "Rise of the Guardians" level of beautiful. But again, other that a few scenes,

I am "Team" tangled, here are some reasons why: - It's HILARIOUS - Gothel is one of the most realistic villains of Disney, she's an abusive mom who probably has a mental illness - I LOVE the message, it literally says you can make your dreams true, you can be yourself, you're strong, that you can grow and fight your fears and that you shouldn't judge people by their Appearance if that's not powerful than I don't know what is - The love story is so pure and honest - the animation is amazing (especially the latern scene, it blows my mind every time and I think it's one of my favorite movie scenes EVER) - little Rapunzel is the cutest thing existing - the songs are really good and funny at the same time - I love how you can see Rapunzel growing into an independent woman - Flynn also has an amazing character development And these are only a few Rapunzel is definitely my favorite Disney movie of all time and it's really underrated

I love Tangled, but let's give Enchanted credit where credit is due because it was definitely the first Disney movie to have a character be self aware enough to acknowledge the random musical numbers.

I personally prefer Tangled on most counts. Frozen was okay, but really felt to me like it didn't reach its potential. I actively dislike two of the songs in Frozen, which keep the stand out songs from counting as much to me. Tangled had better developed characters overall, the villain was better, the comedy was better, and the story was definitely handled a lot better. I do like the character designs in Frozen better, but that's about it.

Everyone in comment section likes Tangled more, lol. P.S.: Me too))

I think Frozen is okay, it has a good message, but it’s very overrated. I prefer Tangled because I thinks it does a really great job at being both hilarious and yet pulling on your heart strings a bit too. Arguably, Tangled doesn’t have the same highly relatable message as Frozen, but I think Tangled can still be relatable for a lot of people. For instance, I like to relate Repunzel’s “mother” to mental illness being the thing that keeps many people locked away in isolation like Repunzel, but that might be a stretch.

Due to a younger sister, I've seen both upwards of 30 times. honestly I am slightly more partial to tangled. it seems more rewatchable in my opinion

Tangled literally makes my heart want to burst! I love it so much...

who cares. wreck it and big hero were better than both.

I love both movies but Tangled holds a special place in my heart (I went to see it in theatres for my birthday and that was how my parents broke the news we were going to Disneyworld)

See, the thing about Frozen, is that they were so busy trying to set up plot twists...that they didn't actually set up the plot. They were so busy trying to set up the Duke as the actual villain, they made the real villain weak. When all he had to do to win was 'do noting', and he failed that then you've officially written yourself into a corner. Seriously, the guards were going to kill Elsa, and they would've been hailed as herons for doing so. So what did Hans gain from stopping them? The same thing can be said for the romance, like it or not Anna was engaged for most of the story. So, even if you like the basic 'disney man disrespects disney woman until they fall in love' trope, by the time Anna and Christophe got together it felt rushed, ironically. It doesn't help by the time they met the trolls, the first thing they did was almost get married. Seriously, for a movie trying to lampshade rushed romances, they had he most rushed relationships. Oh I know, maybe the selling point is the sisterly relationship! ..except, Anna's childhood memories are wiped for some reason, and the girls didn't interact growing up. Afterwards the biggest interactions they had was talking about chocolate, and Elsa siccing her snow monster on Anna. Such love, much development. By the time the plot ended, and their 'love' saved the day, it felt like they were practically strangers! Frozen was so busy trying to define what it wasn't, that it didn't truly develop what it WAS. There's a reason why people can only talk about "Let it Go". Because that's the only thing it has going for it. Now, comparing the two movies. Tangled has better art. The characters move more animatedly, there's more action scenes, and more COLORS. Yeah, while Tangled has fantastic visuals, like Rapunzel's hair, the lantern scene, and the bright flora. Frozen has white, white, and more white. The villain is better. In Tangled they cover the abusive manipulative relationship that can happen between mother and child. Everyone is so busy trying to create a Stockholm scenario in Beauty and the Beast, but they're ignoring the ACTUAL case in Tangled. Now, in Frozen, they had Hans. Who, as I've mentioned before, has motivations all over the place. Why did he genuinely smile after Anna if he hated her? (Keep in mind, this was after she left, and no one else was around. The only thing he had to prove was to the audience. I don't have to go over why that's bad writing, do I?) Why did he save Elsa if he wanted her dead? After the initial shock, he becomes weak, thus ruining the rewatchibility. The characters were better in Tangled. We had good motivations from everyone, we has fun interactions with the background characters. We got to see Rapunzel and especially Eugene grow and mature right in front of our eyes. In comparison, the characters in Frozen was more rigid. Elsa locks herself way until he realizes she loves Anna in the third act, despite hardly interacting with her. Christophe is an asshole, until he realizes he loves Anna in the third act, despite hardly respecting her. And Hans loves Anna, until the third act, even if it makes no sense. Are you seeing a pattern here? There was no real organic growth. It felt like things happened, because it was time for those things to happen. AND YOU KNOW WHAT. I'm gonna go on record and say that the songs were better in Tangled, yeah, that's right! Let's compare the opening songs. Do you want to build a snowman. vs When will my life begin. They have their similarities. They're both about young women who are locked away and lonely. Except...what do we learn about Elsa and Anna from it? That Elsa is introverted and Anna is extroverted? And that Anna thinks building snowmen are a fun activity for when your parents die? That's all I got. What do we know about them? Does this opening song actually EFFECT the story? What does Elsa actually....DO? Meanwhile, When will my life begin characterizes Rapunzel. She doesn't just sit there all there and mope. She's an active and anxious girl. On top of that, it foreshadows the story's conclusion. (The focus on her painting actually comes back for the story!) It's even strengthens the mood when a reprise comes in for when she first leaves her tower. How about the villain song then? We have Mother know best, an unsettling song about an abusive guardian's guilt trip. It's passive aggressive, it's two faced. It's so accurate, that a few of my friends with abusive parents can't listen to it. Now that's real powerful! And....uh....Love is an open Door? It doesn't characterize him, since it's supposed to be based on lies.It doesn't explain motivation, and since this is a red herring plot, it overall contributes to nothing. Hm. Okay, how about the comedy songs then. In Tangled we have I have a Dream. A funny and catchy song that also happens to reveals the motivations of background characters, casually teaches children 'not to judge people by their appearances' AND has a third act payoff. For Frozen we have Olaf's song. Which tells us....he's curious about summer. And that's it. How about the romantic songs then. For Tangled we have "I see the Light". A beautiful and iconic moment for sure, the visuals stick out at you, and the turn both characters take are solidified. I mean, for crying out loud, the first few lines are an abridged version of their respective arcs. Even separating it from the movie, it's a great stand alone romantic ballad. And for Frozen we have A little of a Fixer-Uper, a very forgettable song. It happened when Anna was dying, yet they tried to force comedy. And it was ALL about Christophe. Not to mention that it ended with them almost getting married, a direct contradiction of their 'themes', don'cha think? Not that it matters ,the Troll's couldn't help Anna and the song never really worked with the plot. You can take it out and literally nothing would change. In fact, you can say the same thing with Elsa and her "Let it Go' song It was supposed to be about her letting go of her fears and becoming more confident, yeah? So what did she do for the rest of the movie? Mope, push people away, run, and cry. The song may as well not have been there at all! Notice how Tangled's song ends up directly relating and effecting the main story. It's interwoven. However Frozen's songs are just....there. Much like the character...."arcs" it doesn't feel like it's happening organically. It feels like it's happening because it has to. TL;DR: Tangled is objectively better than Frozen, fight me. Frozen's story was changed drastically halfway through production and BOY does it show.

Tangled had a stronger, more engaging plot, funnier comedy, more likable characters, a better developed romance, more fun action, and more beautiful visionary. as well as just as memorable tunes and great role.models as Frozen. i absolutely adore Frozen, but Tangled wins every time.

Guys, we all know Tangled is the superior film. It's a lot funnier, has a much better villain, has more likable characters, the animation is better and won't make you snow-blind, and just tells its story better. And yes, Tangled has the better soundtrack.

I'm a Tangled fan far more than Frozen. Frozen wasn't my favourite, at all.

I like both films but I like tangled so much more

"Girls doomed to disappointment." That sums up Twilight fans quite well Critic.

I like both, but Tangled wins for me

8:05 You're entitled to your *wrong* opinion

I like tangled more, because I liked the characters more.

I like Frozen don't get me wrong but Tangled is higher up on Disney list. On the subject of that, I'm sick of Elsa being milked; give Anna some love Disney.

wow. majority here like tangled, myself included

I liked Tangled better. I'm more a story guy.

Do not agree with your assessment of Mother Gothel. Her act for Rapunzel was how she switched personas!

Tangled (2010) - made three years before - looks far better than Frozen (2013). It is one the best looking - and most expensive - computer animated movies ever.

I adore Frozen, but I loathe and detest all the hype around it. Not from the hipster "I liked it before it was cool" stance, but because Elsa's and Anna's faces are plastered everywhere, they're sold as toys and cakes and balloons and dress ups etc, but no one seems to get hyped about Frozen for the creativity (when you consider the source material, it's a pretty damn creative adaptation), or how good the LYRICS are in Let It Go (honestly, I get so empowered when I sing that, and it's actually my go-to pick up when I'm struggling with self-confidence or anxiety issues) as opposed "omgggg the title song, let's sing it!". And as for Olaf, I still don't know why he exists apart from to pander to the -5s going to see it. Seriously, he adds literally NOTHING the film bar a few cheap gags and could be so easily written out of it, it's almost unbelievable. And yes, I'm aware the same could be said for Max or Pascal in Tangled, but at least they had sass and attitude. Olaf is just so overly cutesy and good that it's like watching a snow version of Charlie Bucket from Tim Burton's version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore Tangled too, and like NC I actually think it's better than Frozen in some places. But Tangled is still kind of a generic Disney film, y'know? Frozen on the other hand has some REALLY powerful messages told through it in an oddly relate-able way; self-consciousness, social anxiety, rejection and (from a certain angle) depression are all dealt with, and overcome in a healthy way. Quite apart from anything else, Elsa proves that you can overcome anything if you just learn how to understand it before trying to control it, which I think is such an important message for kids, especially nowadays when everyone seems to be diagnosed with something.

“And girls doomed to disappointment.” *shows picture of Edward and Jacob* I feel very attacked.

Screw it, let's just go watch Zootopia.

I think tangled is better. why you ask? because tangled doesn't need to show off how good it is. it just is on it's own merits.

*says frozen is better, loses half his subscribers*

Tangled is my all time favorite movie, it's just so beautifully done, and the characters are pretty relatable, and have good development throughout the movie, and series, and speaking of the series, it's amazing as well, and introduces so much more to the story, and characters, and adds new ones with interesting stories. And I don't get why people are saying Tangled's music is somewhat forgettable, do y'all ever think that Frozen's music may seem more rememberable because it was EVERYWHERE? Not just because it was good? I get annoyed with half the songs in it, yet Tangled's is so beautiful and flows well with the story, and just in general. And Mother Gothel is not a weak villain, she's actually super realistic.

Tangled is the better film, the characters are more relatable and fleshed out, the love story makes sense and actually has a build up and to be honest it was just a more well thought out movie. Frozen, to be fair did have me disappointed from the beginning, I have loved the original tale of the snow queen for years, with its dark story and terrifying villainess and when I heard and saw the original concept art (look it up its amazing) I was pumped, but then I saw the film and was so utterly aghast that they had turned it from one of my favourite cautionary tales to disney backwash. It didn't improve or create a cool story, it took the aesthetic and elements and turned it into something unoriginal, which is disappointing considering the material they were basing it off of. It was trite, the moral was flimsy the characters weren't pushed into something better but into something expected, and the songs did little to nothing to really move the story as much as they were to just have a song to put on the soundtrack (there are as many songs in the first act of frozen as there are in the ENTIRETY of Tangled). Elements of the movie were dull, not thought out or cut (the trolls, the history of arindell, the history of the magic and backstories were all left out). Tangled was a completely realized idea, that had a strong moral for both kids and adults, the story was refined and left little lose ends, and most importantly it took the original content and built on it, it didn't strip or tear it down, but instead expanded it, made more amazing, more magical and more meaningful which is what it should do. Its true that Tangled isn't the best Disney film but it just has more of a lasting and memorable story than Frozen did.

4:33 They hadn't just met, when they married. Magic carpet ride, faking poverty, faking riches; Hell, Aladdin saved her effing life before they wed! How is any of that shit not getting to know each other, or at least _I owe ya one._?

Tangled every time. Sorry.

Well all I have to say is that only one got a spin-off series that is better than both films.... And that was Tangled. Frozen is still good though.

I enjoyed tangled more.

Tangled!

Personally, I prefer Tangled to Frozen. I have a bit of this wierd relationship to Frozen. I know its great, but I can't rank it with other movies. Maybe Tangled was just more subtle in mocking the disney tropes?

I grew up with tangled then frozen came out and i watched tangled even more

This video reminds me that we haven't had an Old vs. New in awhile. I miss those.

I prefer Frozen, but HATE the comic relief. I think he's the second worst comic relief from Disney, and a big contender for the top 10 worst comic relief characters ever.

Compare the love interests though. Tangled has a WAY better love interest. He has more depth and he's far more entertaining. True, Frozen puts that aspect in the background and Tangled focuses on it... but I personally love a good love story and Frozen just didn't do it for me. If I could pick any Disney character to marry I would choose Flynn in a heartbeat. Best. Disney. Guy. EVER! And I've ALWAYS preferred the music from Tangled, I'm not just saying that because Let it Go and all that other crap is stupidly popular, I wasn't sick of Frozen when I first saw it and even then I liked Tangled and its music better.

I like Tangled much better. The fact that we haven’t been exposed to Tangled as much as Frozen is probably one of the reasons why.

Team Mulan (not a princess but counted as one for merchandise so who cares)

I think Mother Gothel from Tangled was more like an emotionally abusive parent, rather than someone like Captain Hook

I myself actually consider Tangled as the best Disney. Frozen is my number 5. Both are great, but I can definitly say there are part of Frozen that I find less interesting, or even parts that I don't like (that stupid troll song). I don't have this issue with Tangled: even silly scenes are great (the I got a dream song is glorious). So I really like Frozen, but it ain't getting higher on my list. And for those who want the detail: Tangled, Alice in wonderland, fantasia, hunchback of notre-dame, frozen.

Doug: *Hated some of the songs in The Lion King (Hakuna Matata, Can You Feel the Love Tonight) because they were hummable back then.* Also, Doug: *Liked the songs in Frozen better than Tangled because they were hummable.*

Tangled is my favorite. Frozen just kinda came and went for me, never stood out but also never rubbed me the wrong way since I didn't have a younger sibling or child to run it into the ground.

I would say I like Tangled a bit better because the characters have a better conection, however I also really like Frozen what I don't like is how the minute someone says "hey I like this movie", they inmediately add "better than Frozen" as if that was the standart. If we are judging all films based on wherever it is better than Frozen or not, then that only adds power to the film and those are the type of comments only haters make hell Frozen haters are more anoying than Frozen fans. I could be talking about any movie or any subject and *they* would bring Frozen up to the table for no fucking reason and I'd be like "forget it I am not having this arguments". Thy have gone from critical to petty and at least the fans stay on their lane more. It is exhausting.

It's easy, Frozen got more atention because Elsa doesn't end up with a guy, simply as that.

Tangled resonated with me in a very strong way because parental abuse is something that I have dealt with, and Mother Gotham represented that for me. That being said, I also enjoyed Frozen a great deal.

Everyone in the comments is saying “tangled is better” Including me

Tangled obviously, I'm not even a big fan of either but I knew Tangled had the better story and characters, I think the problem with Frozen was that they tried to market it to young girls too much, unlike other Disney films where they're pretty much for anyone, the story was also pretty predictable and felt too short for it to actually be worthwhile

Tangled all the way!!! will never get tired of it. felt more of Disney movie to me than Frozen because it didn't constantly make fun of older movies, but instead poked a little fun at it and still managed to embrace its traditional fairytale feel.

4:07 Everyone always forgets about the incredible singing scene in Enchanted

The thumbnail is the new cover for my fan-fiction, "Nostalgia Critic X Elsa X Rapunzel".

Notice how he is using mainly trailer footage and still images for this one too. Good way to get around the Disney censors, eh?

I'll take Tangled a thousand times before I sit through Frozen again.

i most definitely prefer tangled. it has such a great storyline and rapunzel really relates to me. her loyalty, her being naive, and her love story just brings it all together. her psychic, pascal, is super cute too. HOW COULD U SAY U LIKE FROZEN BETTER?!??! what is let it go finna save you?

Nah Imma just watch Princess and the Frog again

I have to be completely honest I say Tangled is way better than Frozen but don't get me wrong I still like Frozen just not as much. Frozen is overrated I actually got sick of it in just a few days while for Tangled I never got sick of it. The action in Tangled is a lot more interesting to watch than in Frozen in my opinion. I give Tangled a 8.5/10 while for Frozen I give it a 7/10.

Frozen: You can't marry a guy you just met! Anna: *meets Kristoff and they get together even though they just met* Yeah...

It's hard to say which actual movie I like more, but Rapunzel is my favorite Disney princess, firmly cemented as of Tangled: The Series. She's not just perky and optimistic, but creative, intuitive, awkward but always well-meaning and eager to learn, and confidently marches to her own drum in a way that's a bit different than other princesses' takes. She's fierce, determined, excitable but patient, and loyal; and she copes with trauma very well for the most part while also still being very clearly affected by it, making her both inspiring and relatable. Rapunzel is Best Princess (aside from _maybe_ Princess Sofia but I have a whole different bias there for my gloriously manipulative child, and she has her own separate line rather than being a traditional princess).

My friend refuses to see Zootopia because she thinks the bunny character has the same face of both Rapunzel and Elsa. All those films are made by the same people so of course they're all going to have that similar style, does anyone else think this is a stupid reason to not see the new movie?

Am I the only one who didn't like Frozen? I mean Doug said it himself, the story sucks... how the hell did you guys get invested in that movie?

Honestly, Frozen was such a borefest that I barely remember that I even watched: I had to check the dvd cover to actually remember that I watched it. On top of that the movie has far too many pointless (and forgettable songs) that really feel like padding (I grew up with disney, so songs in movies isn't an issue). Plus I really disliked the characters. Tangled however was very pleasent, the characters were funnier and more enjoyable, the songs didn't suck as bad as frozen, and I overall found it just more memorable. Infact I should watch it someday again... Infact I just don't understand why Frozen is so famous: I just think it's a pretty boring and forgettable movie in my opinion. I would've definitely enjoyed it more if it was 2d though...

My family has always been huge Disney fans, my brother and I were right there when Frozen came out...and it became the first movie we walked out of...before hearing any praise or criticism, we thought Frozen was such an obvious failure of a movie, I'm still shocked it's still being talked about today

#TeamMoana Yeah, I'm jumping on this bandwagon early.

Both were good in their own ways, but Tangled is the one I prefer. However, neither compare to Treasure Planet or The Rescuers Down Under in my opinion.

Tangled for sure. Also Shaun the Sheep.

I don’t know why everyone feels like they have to pick a side, I absolutely love both of them!

Frozen wasn't a movie; it was a two-hour long music video for Idina Menzel. The only reason it was as wildly-runaway-popular as it was was due to the fact that Disney had launched a covert ad-campaign for it a year in advance. And the shame of it is that it *could* have been groundbreaking, if the writers had stuck to the original premise of Elsa being the villain. 'Let it Go' had a terrible message for girls--it's okay to throw a temper-tantrum and sulk if you don't get your way!-- and her actions, all the way up to the end when She saves Anna, are so anti-heroic they border on the dastardly. Also Olaf is the literal Devil.

I agree with most of what the video says, but... how in the world is Hans a better villain than Mother Gothel? Mother Gothel is so fun to watch and yet so intimidating, while Hans only has the surprise factor on his side, being quite a forgettable villain and being defeated in such a pathetic way... Tangled is way better than Frozen in everything (plot, characters, comic relief...) but the songs. I like Tangled's songs, but I have to admit Frozen's are awesome.

Personally, I prefer Tangled

Tangled is a masterpiece

Every person I have met not only say that Tangled is better than Frozen, but Big Hero 6 is better than Wreck it Ralph. I have yet to actually meet someone who said that Ralph was better than Hero

When in the world was Mother Gothel silly?

i feel tangled is a stronger film, mostly because it felt more solid to me. when i look back on tangled, i can see a full story thats complete. when i look back on frozen, i just remember parts and not that much happening (im not saying nothing happened) while i do like both films, i would choose tangled over frozen to watch

"How many times have you seen a horse act like Tomy Lee Jones from the fugitives?" Well at least once before: the horse in tangled looks a lot like the horse in the road to el dorado. Not that this is a bad thing, they're both nice and fun secondary characters, but I had to point out that El dorado did it first.

Tangled destroys frozen in every way

I like them both. Why no one cant do that?!

Animation wise Tangeled wins by a long shot, I hate how awfully Frozen is animated. It's Disney, they basically wrote the commandments of animation, yet...... Elsa's hair goes right through her shoulder in her main scene!!!!.It just the worst, the ballroom scene has copy paste models with 3 different colors. The backgrounds are lackluster, secondary animation is minimal, and the hair rendering is downright LAZY. The scene in which Ana gets out of bed with "bed head" is not funny its unfinished!! Compare that to Tangled where Disney literally created new rendering simulators just for the textures and hair. (Seriously if you're interested look at how they synthesized organic and semi regular textures, breathtaking!) There's just so much effort and detail! When Finn holds Rapunzel after being revived look up close, her cloth literally is animated to react to its touch, he holds her, it softens and folds. Compare that to Anna and Kristoff, Kristoff holds her, his fucking thumb goes right into her stomach. Now this is not to say Tangled has no mistakes, but if you're going to compare....

I like Tangled more, it’s funnier, and has a near perfect narrative. Very clever writing, and the characters are so darn likable! Frozen has this too, but there are a couple characters that are less developed than they should be in Frozen. Anna and Kristoff are great characters, but the others not so much.

My side is.... Wreck-it-Ralph :^) It's very different, I know. But its made by the same studio and its soooo much better than both movies ;)

When I saw Frozen in theaters, I really liked it. It was entertaining, looked great, and tried to avoid some big tropes/clichés. In the following months (well I guess years at this point), I've come to lose my enjoyment of it thanks to all the hype and seemingly mindless devotion to it. Yeah it was fun, but taking a step back do people really think it's a masterpiece? It has plot holes, while the music is good the first time around I only like 2 of the songs now, and the whole avoiding clichés thing didn't really flow (honestly feels like they were trying too hard). After seeing it multiple times I still love Tangled: it flows, I like the characters, interesting story, looks great, etc. Yeah it didn't have any Broadway-worthy singles, and yeah the princess ends up quickly falling in love with and marrying a guy, but I don't think that makes it a lesser film. Everything it did worked - even the villain, whose intimidation factor comes from playing a loving mother to her victim but still being a cruel person doing dark things behind the victim's back - so for me, Tangled wins every time.

Let's all take a moment as a society to think about what a great villain Gothel is. She is the type of villain that convinces her prey she is doing their good and let them care for her. All the scenes she is with Rapuntzel, she always touches her hairs, not the Rapuntzel herself, a subtle underline of how less she cares really about her, but only about her power. Gothel committed so much to manipulate Rapuntzel that she feels guilty for wanting freedom. If this is not terrible/terrifying I don't know what that is.

Can we find some middle ground in saying both movies are GORGEOUS?!