Tanks That Shouldn't Be Added To War Thunder III 

As always, leave vehicle suggestions in a comment. These can be for vehicles that should not be added or vice versa.

Personally I like the idea of the Gatling gun, it’s a fun vehicle which is hard to find in War thunder

0:43 - reminds me of the mantis tank that the british made (never used) in WW2 instead of missiles it had a machinegun.. And a poor lad had to stay on the top using the machine gun

I love that there is basically an arms race in each among all the nations, but they are all supplied by gajin Edited to limit stroke deaths.

"No tank has fire and forget missiles in Warthunder Little did he know

the Vigilanti had about 350 shells in the drum iirc, it uses a drum magazin on the turret where the shells are stored in, reloading it is quite labour intensive since each shell is loaded individualy by hand.

hmm, for the BMPT, it seems the ATGM is more of the issue, cause having half of your guns and ammo being set to HE/AA rounds is going to heavily hamper your ability to kill tanks over an extended period. If they limited or say removed them and set the guns only, it would be more balanced as like a top tier light/SPAA, maybe? Of course the easiest solution is to just make BR decompressed and have higher top tiers, but thats just not going to happen for any time soon.

TVT looks like something straight outta clone wars

As a player playing Armored Warfare, I have message to say to War Thunder players : DO NOT ASK FOR BMP-T FOR YOUR GAME!! In AW, BMP-T is damage monster. Autocannons totally rules in top tier. Add missiles and you have kill-all vehicle. Oh and the armor is PITA. I think in War Thunder this vehicle would most likely eats heavy armored MBTs with ease at long range, and short range can be a flanker while also doubling as AA vehicle if possible. In short, you guys will have overpowered vehicle.

3:06 but the 2A42 *is* dual feed. Maybe they couldn't get it to work in this dual-cannon configuration? Since then you'd need 4 individual "streams" of ammunition, 2 going to each gun.

Note on the Vigilante: IIRC there was a version with a significantly higher ammo capacity. To quote a comment from a thread on the WT subreddit: "The T249 Vigilante (DIVAD) was developed as an attempt to revive the Vigilante project, and entered as a contender in the Division Air Defense (DIVAD) Contest. However the T249 Vigilante (DIVAD) lost to the M247 Alvin York, which also failed to enter service with the U.S. Military. There were several changes that were made to the T249 Vigilante (DIVAD) over the original T249 Vigilante. The T249 Vigilante (DIVAD) was built on the chassis of a M48 Patton medium tank instead of a lengthened chassis of a M113 armored personnel carrier. The T249 Vigilante (DIVAD)'s T250 cannon was also rechambered from 37mm to 35mm, and had a maximum rate of fire of 3,000rpm. The ammunition capacity was also greatly improved, with a capacity of 1,463 rounds, which gave the T249 Vigilante (DIVAD) a much longer firing time before having to reload."

Bit off topic, but it would be cool if Gaijin would add canister round, OR rounds and rounds made for helicopters. I can't remember what it is called though.

How about a series on vehicles that shouldn't have been added vehicles that have been added but shouldn't have been in the first place. Although many of these vehicles have already been talked about Edit when I made this comment I wasn't thinking about vehicles that did or didn't exist but rather ones that are in the game but don't serve much of a function or simply aren't fun to play or fight against. Mainly helicopters.

I wish they would add the P. 133 heavy bomber for Italy as it was something that was 90% done and was cancelled after the armistice. I feel Italy is lacking a lot in things such as bombers and it would make a great addition prototype or not. I also feel like maybe adding the Freccia IFV to Italy could be good as there isn't too many higher tier vehicles available to Italy.

I think the one saving grace of the BMPT is that it would be on a T-72 hull, so not fast like the BMP-2 or AGS

M95 Degman and M84 tanks. Also, It would be nice to have a "nation" of just smaller nations that have started developing or developed some kind of a tank. M95 Degman and M84 tanks. If added, they will go to the Russian tech tree since they are developed on russian principle, but still it would be nice to see them in game.

A year later Gaijin adds a Chinese Terminator

Doesn't the BMPT have the nickname "Terminator?" As for vehicles that shouldn't be added, the P1000 Ratte and the P1500 Monster come to mind, though I'm sure these have already been suggested.

Things that shouldn't be added: SpikeLR. These would be like the bugged UDES 33 Missiles but on crack. And it would put the Puma S1 directly into 12.3 or higher. With decompression, they could be added.

The BMPT and other vehicles with unmanned turrets have been in Armored Warfare since the beginning. They would take siginficantly reduced damage from hits to the turret. I always had a problem with that, both from a gameplay view as well as a logic/"lore" aspect. As a gameplay aspect, they get the advantage of a much more resilient turret without the disadvantage of having to lugg around the heavier armour a manned turret with the same level of survivability would require. Those vehicles get an advantage without the trade-off. "Lore" wise, the game only looks at the tactical level. Operational and strategic aspects, such as maintenance requirement, fuel consumption, spare parts availability, transport to the AO ect, being ignored. Thus, the main advantage of a lightly armoured but unmanned turret (turret gets hit and destroyed, vehicle is a mission kill but can return to base unassisted, crew is unharmed, turret can be replaced quickly, vecle is good to go for the next mission) shouldn't matter. As the game only simulates the tactical aspect of the game, only the tactical consequences of a hit to the turret should be considerd. Manned or unmanned, a penetrating hit to the turret is a mission kill. Thus a game only simulating the tactical level should treat them as the same in its gameplay mechanics.

no BMP-T but A10 on 9.7 yes very fair to fly with aim9 L against mig 15 bis fair

Actually the first terminator BMP-T vehicles were built on T90 hulls, BMPT-72 came later.

fire and forget missiles comment aged like milk, welcome the QN506

I'd like to see some more artillery vehicles added as well as a better way to aim the shots(no, not a topdown view like in WoT), it would be cool for tanks like the 15cm german tank for instance

Suggestion: Adding the Skink into War Thunder to help fill out US and British AA line in the low tiers

@ 0:20 the Z tank getting destroyed really cracked me up

I think the giraffe-style ATGM vehicles would be hilarious as an April Fools event vehicle. Also, depending on how fast the mechanisms could extend and retract, they might be balanceable if they were unable to move from their position until the arms were fully retracted. Doubly so if a shot of HE to the launcher could jam those arms.

The the Thunderbolt II is a gun with wings then the Vigilante is a gun on tracks

Regarding the TVT, wasn't there a laser equipped version that was being considered at one point? That way they could use the extended arm to achieve line of sight?

Hard disagree with the TVT. that goofy ass tank needs to be added to the game immediately

Guy with Z on his tank at 3:20 lmao, it’s one thing to hear about people putting Z’s on their tanks, another to see footage of it having not played in about a year

I whould love to see the terminator in war thunder bc realy russian tanks whit no air suport are not so good, the terminator will be a great balacer for russia, but when a russian team have terminators and ka 52 and t 80bvm its overpowered so yea

I think the Karl would be a perfectly balanced addition to the game, you reload for 2 minutes but you annihilate anything that moves and has friends even somewhat near it

That giraffe ATGM thing is insane, and I'd never heard about it before. Always enjoy learning about these new odd types of AFVs Spookston.

Oh boy now in 2023, we have an event vehicle thats basically Alibaba F&F ATGM and BMPT, combined. :DDDDDD

There's 1 family of tank that from Austria and Spain which i would like to see but impossible to be competitive in current meta in War Thunder. That is the General Dynamics ASCOD Family from ASCOD 105 LT to the ASCOD Ulan by far not the best tank to be added and it shound't be added because of lack of firepower and armor being a light tank.

Bruh imagine you can't see the arm so you hear a loud boom and slowly lower it down to see it's blown up 💀💀

Honestly, the Vigilante would, i think, make a good AA if placed in the proper BR, maybe move some of the SPAAG BRs so there's less gaps. i think there is a lot of AA options for america, like the Chaffee with .50s or the walker bulldog with 20mms. long story short, there is no real reason for there to be such a large BR gap between the M42 and M163.

As someone who watches WT but doesn't play, I want all these tanks in the game.

Hot take but i dont think the TVT would be too overpowered, from looking at it, it doesnt seem to have any reload mechanisms, so if it took a hit from an HE round all of its ammo would be destroyed, not sure if it had any internal ammo storage, also i would imagine that boom arm would take some time to extend so it wouldn't be able to instantly duck behind cover right away and would be vulnerable

After seeing the background footage, I think it’s safe to say Spookston has a new favorite tank. Also, can someone tell me what the ball on top of the turret was?

dude like honestly you've just made me want these vehicles even more in game

they should add a modernized b1 ter with a top aa gun and 120mm smooth bore auto loader

Given how the BMP-T has the issue where its gas venting from its twin main guns cause the barrels to wobble and shake like crazy when firing, it would DEFINATELY not make a good vehicle to add. I mean, unless Gaijin decides to stop pretending and give in and fully show its Russian Bias.

i counted a good amount of turms in this video being used in that Sinai portion of the video when explaining the BPMT

You cant forget about the Bob Semple tank since it can kill 6 MBTs at once with its overwhelming armament powerful armor.

Honestly a lot of the "compression" of the tiers comes from the fact that prototype vehicles are in the game, such as Japan's Tiger 1. I understand that yes, TECHNICALLY they BOUGHT ONE SINGLE Tiger 1, but they never received it because of logistical issues. So having a Tiger 1 (Heavy Tank No.6) in the Japanese tree is pretty ridiculous.

They could potentially add the Bob Semple Tank. Of course at 11.3. Lower than that would be to op change my mind.

For the BMP Terminator there were two versions of it, one with a T-72 as a base which is mentioned in the video and the another a modernized versioned based on the hull of the T-90 called the BMPT-72...

tbh TVT panther would still get ammoracket when hitting the top so it would be mainly useless

BMPT is just a showcase vehicle for parades, like T-14 its capabilities are over exaggerated and only exists in maybe at most a dozen fully functional vehicles

As someone who’s fallen in love with the 2S3M, I’d love to see the newer generation SPHs added. Stuff like the 2S19 Msta, PZH2000, M109 Paladin…

I always love how videos like this introduces me to armored vehicles I never heard of. The tvt looks amazing

Hey Spook, why don't you make videos commenting on small nation/army vehicles? It could be about the ones you find most interersting, that could have some place in the game, community most suggested, etc.

Fun Fact: The Puma currently used in the German Forces is also equipped with fire and forget missiles which can also be exchanged for sam missiles

If we ever get the Term, it better have terrible accuracy on the 30mm, considering IRL its shit because they put both barrels so close together with the muzzle brakes timed identically, watch one fire on youtube, they shake several inches each direction

In addition Gaijin shouldn't add thing named TOS-1A "Solntcepyok" (translates like "Superburn" or "Burning Hell"). This thing fires thermobaric rockets, that would cause feeling of crews' lungs out and eyes became water. It absolutely obliterates living force even inside armoured vehicles of any type, because of terrifying pressure, that appears in blast radius. But this is not the only problem. This "Tank" has 24 or 30 of this rockets and fires rapidly, like Grad or BM-13. In reality, this terrific rain covers over 5 hectares of land, where wouldn't be any survivors.

Hi, can you please make a video about JPz 4-5?

The T249 would be great to put between the M42 and the M163. There's a huge gap there between them jumping from sub 5.0 to 8.0.

Looking at the 2S38, they're definitely going to add the BMPT, and there'll probably be a premium version too.

i want the rest of the churchills to be added but some could be too strong? like the AVRE one

1:47 maybe it could be like a 1 minute and 30 second repair and if the crane is shot it would take 2 minutes and the crane gets lowered

Isn't this the same guy who said not to add the A10?

Knowing gaijin's recent love for cancerous IFVs which don't belong in the game, I think it's only a matter of time before the BMPT is added. The crane tank sounds a bit too cancerous but I wouldn't be surprised if someday they add it too someday

In all honesty I would like to see the flying pancake the Vought V-173 get added to the game.

The Chinese Terminator is in the game as crafting vehicle.

What if they were to add the direct competitor to the Sgt York in its trials which was basically an M48 with a GAU-8 30mm?

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't one of the russian atgm carriers have a soft of fire and forget ability

Doesnt the German Tiger heli uses PARS 3 missiles? Its an absolutely game breaking mechanic. Every Tiger Heli gets an average of 20 kills per game because they simply never have to leave cover and you cant shot it down. Peek, shot missile, get behind cover. One of the worst game mechanics they added.

A lot of tanks that were between the wars of that followed the style of going over trenches shouldn’t be added. Even tanks like the char b are on the fence for me

I think the vigilante would be fine. It would finally give America an spaa that could compete at least somewhat with the shulka, gepard and the other 8.0 spaa. We could finally move the m163 down so its not having to deal with being the absolute worst spaa at its br even though it would still be worse than the Russian op 7.7 radar spaa

Can we all take a moment to appreciate the work this man is doing to educate us about war thunder? Man thank you very much.

Funny Swedish tanks could be the grkpbv90.. Or the Bv2063 tow carrier. Or the strv 2000 consept whit a 140mm main gun and a 40mm automatic Canon next to it, but that was only a consept. Other country's cv90 could be interesting like the 35mm chaingun variant whit a vc remote controlled gun station from Norway, or the 25 and 30mm version. Some even have atgm.

About the TVT. What if, when u kill the arm, the vehicle is dead, like a crew kill or so

100% we'll get the BMPT in the upcoming patches

BMP-T is great in Wargame at least

I think a T1E3 to E6 prototype would be interesting in Warthunder. Their semi auto 37mm gun with about 600m/s muzzle velocity would most likely have comparable point blank flat pennetration to the Panzer II's HVAP belts, but of course with more gradual drop off. Its never going to happen being such a low tier vehicle but would be neat if it were added

Just a fun video idea. Why the Rattte wouldn't work

Meanwhile at Gaijin Entertainement: Write that down write that down!

That shouldn’t be huh? 1k17 Szhatie. A soviet self propelled laser defense platform. That is, until you realize that it is just as good for attacking. No clue what it would do to ground targets but it deffo takes down air targets from 7 km. There is also the obj 277 which i would not like to see. Reason is that i find the obj 279 and obj 260 tough enough, and this would definietly go in as a hard to obtain, but incredibly powerful machine. On the flipside Obj 416 and Obj 704 would make great additions i think. They are quite unique but at the same time quite similar to other soviet tech tree tanks

I swear Russia specialises in making armoured vehicles that work in games but are pure trash in actual combat.

If warthunder added top attack missile platforms for ground based vehicles, the BMP wouldn't be to much off an issue however, while currently it's not suitable, if gaijin attacked the top attack later, then it will become a viable vehicle to add into the game as those missiles will be a hard counter to it, granted it'll still be around the top tier but there it would face down tanks that can take it on, and with the introduction of more vehicles equipped with active protection systems (APS) and the trophy system, missiles can be mitigated better by tanks.

0:21 the most satisfying kill

Honestly? I want the vigilante, it just looks so derpy yet I want it bc of the gun lol. Could go between the M163 and SGT York

The 35mm vigilante would be nice 1400 rounds going brrrt

A super cool tank to add would be the 2s38. It looks sweet and a good counter to the AGS and the HSTV

1:50 aged well didn't it.

First of all Gaijin should chill out with russian wehicles and start adding other nations top tier tanks, because RN at top tier USSR tree can just respawn a dozen times and overwhelm the opponent I believe Spookston already talked about this

Dude with javilin BR 7.3 he carries 2 misslies on his back no machine guns. Can be added to any nato countries tank destroyer line, top speed of 15 kph we will say?

Spooks probably gonna say M41D right now since last time he spent 10k GE on backup in the tank he'll never touch again

Great vid as always And for a vehicle that shouldn't be added the Russian lineup of BTR because they would be impossible to balance as of now

Don't add giraffe TDs to the game. This would be highly frustrating to play against. The 37mm Gatling in the other hand sounds like a fun vehicle even if it won't be meta

Well, we all know from Armored Warfare that the Armata IFV is quite dangerous. Well armored and has high dpm. Fun for someone who uses it, but not fun for everybody else, so yeah, we could steer clear of that

Imho BMPT should be added since you basically have the same vehicle which is Bmp-2M that can play top tier. The BMPT is pretty much the same thing like the 2M but slower.

Panzer I F should not be added. It's basically a Panzer 1 with 80mm armor and an anti-tank rifle/machine gun. The problem is that it has very low penetration and the added armor makes it very slow. As funny as it would be to see it in game, it would be completely useless.

2:18 is surprisingly relevant to current events…

I think the vigilante would be a funny event vehicle

The Marmon-Herrington tanks designed during WW2 are pretty abysmal but they have a suggestion page on the forums. As funny as it would be to use them, the main armaments are severely lacking. Despite being a semi-automatic 37 mm cannon, the penetration is lower than that of a .50 cal. The CTMS has one of these guns in the turret. The larger MTLS has two of them in the turret. The Chieftain has a video documenting how horrible these vehicles were.

So much detail on why the other tanks are bad ideas, then the vigilante is just "200rd ammo boxes. ", feel like I get whiplash from these videos

We all know we're going to get BMPT soon and its going to be just as broken as you expect it to be