For Variety’s Actors on Actors, Ellen Pompeo and Taraji P. Henson sat down to discuss the “toxic” culture at “Grey’s Anatomy” and fair pay. bit.ly/VarietySubscribe / variety / variety / variety
Two intelligent women from different backgrounds, each talking about their own experience so honestly and listening to each other so attentively. No talking over one another, no dismissal. Nice to see. This is how it's done.
Thats normal life.?! Media fucks up the pre-perceived stereotype. Which stifles important Conversations amongst women of different backgrounds you coming to the conversation assuming that a black or Latin person would be angry about your question then stuff doesn’t get talked about why black or latin person comes into a conversation assuming that a white person won’t empathize because that’s what we seen on TV. this should be a regular conversation. No pre-perceived standards every conversation should be brand new. I don’t think this should HAVE TO BE SAID... so sad smh
Lechiffresix six Yes she does but Greys Anatomy makes buckets of money so. I personally love the fact that Shonda Rhimes is behind it all and she seem to be pretty fab person! Surely earning more than both of these ladies.
What's funny is they give so many dudes big films without showing their worth. I see what Taraji is saying but big picture they do not value people the way she is stating. It would be nice if they did but it's simply not true.
@@PHlophe NO she didn't. There is evidence of plenty of people who have kids with a black person coming out of their mouth with crazy stuff or being in big time denial. I think they are running from those conversations or something.
This makes me like Ellen Pompeo alot because she did her research and she did enough to ask question to make conversation with Taraji, this was a good Convo between two people
As far as Grey's goes.... Blows my mind that McDreamy was making more money than Ellen considering the show is based on her and her past that brought her to becoming a Dr. I respect both these women so much and wish to God I had the courage that they possess. Keep.pushing ladies! You both are remarkable, beautiful, successful women!!
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@@Flux799 Flu Jah Therefore, she is saying that Patrick got cast to thirteen different shows that each showed a pilot episode BUT WERE NEVER SOLD to become a full-blown series...which implies his resume SOUNDS nice but he never really got any success on TV, so they should be at the same level...
The first seasons were the best. it's like that quote from Devil wears prada by Nigel: "Let me know when your whole life goes up in smoke. Means it's time for a promotion." Basically if you're winning in public, your personal life is -ish.
Mimi everyday you wake up and go to work you are changing the world and the ideas people have of working women. Breaking that glass ceiling one day at a time. I hope you are feeling all the strength and love im sending you from the other side of the wall. 💪🏽
They're both angels, get Taraji a franchise!! Also the idea that Ellen couldn't carry Grey's Anatomy is the stupidest thing I'd ever heard of. That show has always been about women and the struggles that everyone faces as individuals, Derek was a supporting character, Meredith is the star! If anything Cristina was a bigger loss to the show although Merder was pivotal. #Winners
I soooooo agree...im still trying to get iver losing cristina! I wish she would agree to come back..even for just a guesr role. It would give the fans some closure
tbh, i stopped watching after yang left.. but I told myself grey is still there. It didnt affect me that much when Derek left the show. Up until now, I still hold onto my twisted sisters moment.
@@heaux4719 With black skin. I can observe and I can feel thru my loved ones. and I can see whats unfair and what needs to change and fight for change. But at the end of the day i do not know what it feels like to actually deal with these things with black skin.
Two intelligent women unafraid to have an honest conversation. This should be the standard. Taraji being unapologetically black and Ellen being so self-aware is amazing. Awesome interview!
Heartbreaking to hear that such a distinguished actress has had to prove her worth after soooo many years in the industry, but so happy this conversation is being had about inequality and wage gaps between women. Amazing discussion!
I’m genuinely confused- isn’t Shonda Rhimes a woman of color who runs Greys Anatomy and many other shows? Why was there ever a wage gap or sexism if she was in charge?
@@ashleyquartararo2336 Shonda Rhimes isn't in control of how much actors are paid. She is a writer and a producer, yes, but there are so many people above her (like ABC studio executives) that are actually "in charge" and have more control than any of us realize
@@maha1969 pilots are like episode 1 that you use to audition the show to the network. he did 13 of these for separate shows that never got picked up to be a full series
The show (Grey’s anatomy) did not need Darrick, the character was just nice hair. Watching Ellen’s character grow with and without her characters husband was an amazing rollercoaster. The show was incredible and believe me I don’t see it going well without Ellen and the characters lost in the 15th season.
Kayleigh Sky no Derek added a lot to the show. I stopped watching the show after he died but not because I believe a male lead is necessary to keep the shoe running. The show started going downhill after season 8 imo, it was the most fun the first 6 seasons. When amazing female characters like Cristina, Izzie, Addison, Lexie, and Callie started leaving the show it lost a lot of the humor and when amazing make characters like Derek and Mark left the show it lost a lot of humor and romance. It’s unfair for Patrick to be paid more than Ellen since her character is the focus of the serie but that doesn’t mean he has to be objectified as ‘just nice hair’ because that’s not fair and his character was amazing and added a lot to the show
@@anikarahman193 For me Mark & Callie , Cristina & Meredith added the excitement with their friendship and chemistry. I stopped watching once Cristina left.
Honestly Tarajii was probably talking about Person of Interest. I believe she was alluding to that show about being miserable and rightly so because the show is amazing but I could always tell in interviews she wasn't fully there for it. But I really loved her character on the show, it just sucked that she and the behind the scenes creators were not getting along.
sundawg911 I’m glad you brought up Person Of Interest! Love the show, and loved her in it too. I didn’t know that she didn’t along with the producers.... or the “behind the scenes” staff. But I’ve never heard her say ANYTHING about POI.....hmm!
Oh yeah. good one. She was great on that show. My husband was so mad when they finally moved where he wanted the story to move and then *poof* she was gone.
T C Yes! They finally wrapped up that HR mess, and she was gone! It took me a while to watch the series after that, but I watched most of it..... eventually! I was getting sick of Dominic, though. Do you remember that storyline?
oh it's beautiful interview to both .. but Taraji she is be always amazing .. i love her .. please i want Taraji and Viola to be together pleaaaaaaaaaseeeeeee
Ellen looks 🤩🤤🔥🤤😍❤❤😍❤🔥❤🤩🤤🔥🤤🔥🤤😍❤🔥❤🤩❤🤩🤤🔥🤤🔥🤤 is she even human!?!?!? And wtff is wrong with hollywood!? Ellen deserved to be paid a lot more than Patrick. The show is called GREY'S anatomy, not shepherd's, and she acts better, tbh. And Taraji deserves SO much better! She's waaay more talented and badass than like 90% of the actresses in hollywood. 🙄😍😍😍😍
We don't need to put white actresses down to lift black actresses up. Although I do understand your point! I love Ellen and Taraji, they are both amazing actresses and people! :)
@@noordurrani678 totally agree. I rly didn't intend to put white actresses down, but my comment does seem like i was. I edited it a bit now. What i meant was that she's better than 90% of actresses in general, but i said 'white actresses' because they get paid more. I definitely feel there are as many great white actresses as black ones. There r so many white actresses that i stan
Right. He was just making a comeback. He was more well known but was he that much of a draw before the show started? I don't remember anyone feening for some Dempsey.
Yes, Lord. The stylist was on fire. I don't know that I would have done such a thin shoulder on that blue dress on Taraji for this interview, but Beautiful nonetheless.
I don't know much about Grey's Anatomy but I've never thought for a second Patrick Dempsey was THE lead. To be quite honest, everytime I'd watch it for a few minutes, it was always Dr Bailey on screen, kicking the interns asses or whatever lol it took me years to randomly find out who was named Grey on that show.
I feel like this is very common. Great work for discount price. These are 2 amazing actresses and even they have to deal with this. I love both shows so much.
Great interview when Ellen made that comment about white actresses not getting the struggle if someone was working more than them it took me back to the soap actress tweeting that when Viola Davis gave her speech when she won her oscar. They really don't get a woc struggle but it's nice to see they can learn. I love TPH and watched Person of Interest for her but she really was not used in that show.
This is one of the most honest actors on actors talking about the real behind the scenes including the money involved. It's good to learn this things. It really showed that actors have their own struggle in the business, especially if they are underrated but excellent at their work.
Think of it like this, someone complaining about making $25an hour instead of $30 an hour. If they are worth the $30 then they should get the $30 point blank period. It doesn’t matter that they can survive with the $25 an hour
That was an amazing conversation. Very inspiring. Both women are beautiful. But that was honest to openly discuss gender and race inequality in terms of pay...love how Ellen made the point of self education. Very refreshing dialogue
All though she said she started 26 taraji was in the acting business since 15 she mentioned in a video with rayan (they de movie )and her on ACTORS on ACTORS
Omg Ellen just hit the nail on the head when she mentioned how producers lure actors with a great role ... it’s the same in any industry... I’ve recently had a major change in my work place and new people have been hired at the same position as I being paid way more than I do, despite me proving that I can do the role better and then not performing at all.
This conversation is INCREDIBLE. Two business women. Two BOSSES. Two talented, creative, powerhouses. And they're both listening to each other and understanding. WOW.
I thought Ellen and Shonda were close. Couldn't she go to her and want better story lines. Ellen is so poised and intelligent. Love this honest talk between two actresses! Both look amazing!!!! 💕
They are close. She was talking about that in the beginning. She did say the culture changed when the two of them got together to make changes such as bringing in Debbie Allen.
Wow! This was incredible to watch. Both are inspiring and wonderful women. I think that Ellen being married to a man of color really opened her eyes to the issues people of color face. I’m glad she realizes those issues. She’s not afraid to talk about how caucasians have a leg up majority (basically all of the time) of the time. She clearly can understand how Taraji May feel in certain situations. Women supporting women! 👏
It’s so inspirational watching interviews like this one when two women are talking about their job, the industry and all the obstacles they have to pass to arrive where they are right now. So thank you for inspire the next generation
I love watching these Actors on Actors interviews. They give you some perspective about the behind and what they really go through as actors to create the shows & movies we see. I also enjoy the Hollywood Reporter Round Table interviews, too.
This conversation is so moving and I am loving how authentic and honest each woman is speaking. I love them so much and to see them as people and not playing their characters is so moving. Brava
I love these two! Both women are remarkably talented. This was a insight and lovely conversation about their experiences in the industry. Keep up this amazing series Variety!
That was 30 minutes?! Wow I was so drawn in it felt like maybe 10. You know the conversation is fascinating when you don’t even notice the time going by, you’re just so locked in with the conversation and everything being talked about, this was really interesting. Ellen is always a very articulate speaker I love her interviews, I don’t watch empire so I’m not familiar with that story line, but the actresses story was still very interesting as well. Two powerhouses right there
This was one of the best most honest conversations I've heard in a long time. It flowed so perfectly. Both listening to each other, not talking over each other. Well done ladies. Well done :)
What a great interview! I personally haven't watched Grey's Anatomy or Empire, but thoroughly enjoyed their conversation and insight. Two women from different backgrounds genuinely listening and supporting each other.
