Taste Testing the Latest Food Trends Vol 16 | Sorted Food 

I immediately went to your website and was pleased to see your products are readily available on this side of the pond. What a great idea!

Your products would probably make a killing on instagram/tiktok. I was shocked to see you had less than 2000 followers on Instagram 😱 Love what you're creating and hoping your reach grows and grows!

Thank you thank you love that; and can’t wait to try out your products

I'm in the States so that's great to hear.

How do you go about collecting the cups?

But if you consider that those delivery vehicles are going to be running either way I could see it maybe being better.

​@Sku11Leader ultimately the vehicles only run because there is demand! if noone was posting things the vehicles wouldn't run, so if we found a way to reduce the need to post items then less vehicles would be needed

​@@Sku11Leaderthat just help the toxic system to stay in place. We can t keep running so many planes, container ships, trucks. Anything using this system is just wrong since it keeps it alive longer.

@@krt2068 To be fair to that argument kind of necessitates a world where everyone only/majorly used locally produced products. Which I imagine is a much bigger chance than any one olive-oil company can really dream of making so in the reality where they are saying that "if any noticeable percentage of olive oil production was done this way. It would be more sustainable in transport costs/diminished glass production/waste" then you gotta give it to them. And it does seem to be one of the smarter ways of going about it since, much like Ebbers said with the coffee cups, the oil needs a container that it won't dissolve since it's a liquid. And most coatings that make that possible also makes the container itself non-biodegradable. Hence: recycling

If it was implanted in a way that any producer's of the same product could receive it and reuse it then it would be more sustainable

Oooh do they educate the bees in tiny classrooms?

@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme ?????

@@cassandrakarpinski9416It's a yes or no question

@@RJiiFin sorry just reread my original comment and picked up what you mean. Bee educators in that they travel around to local schools and organisations to educate the public about the important role bees play and how to help protect them and that

@@cassandrakarpinski9416So is that a yes or no on the tiny classrooms?

Oh wow, that's amazing! It's great when you meet people with such unique hobbies/areas of expertise.

​@@SortedFoodAMAZING 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

So easy to make elderflower lemonade. You just need to secure a good, not polluted source for the fresh flowers i.e. a bush which grows far from the busy road and not on some trash etc. Pick the flowers in spring, take care they don't get dusty or anything and soak them in a sugar and water solution with some lemons cut up and citrate or tartrate added for the sour taste. Lift the flowers out by their green stalks after a couple of days, and hey presto, you've got elderflower lemonade. You need to store it chilled, though, and drink it soon, because it won't keep for long for the lack of any preservative.

My grandma used to make elderflower syrup for us. Drinking it with cold sparkling or still water is quite common in rural areas. I still have a bottle in my fridge, but she's quite old now and can't go out into the woods to collect the flowers. I personally rarely drink just diluted, it makes really really good lemonade, and I also like adding it to my Tom Collins's.

@@raccoonking7566 you could also just grow your own elderberries & flowers. i'm a bit too urban myself to go foraging but i wouldn't anyway, maybe i'm just fussy but i wouldn't eat stuff from the forest where i haven't been able to control its habitat, not a big fan of eating animal poo and pee. and using that green finger in the backgarden is half the fun of making things from stuff you've grown anyways.

Yep not from spain but i have a large metal box of olive oil brought from italy... why would you faff about shipping a plastic container? It is plastic! it sheds microplastics everywhere! That sucks!

If plastic "shed" at all, let alone everywhere, it WOULDNT BE USED....... It is used SPECIFFICIALLY BECAUSSE it doesn't "shed" or leak or break down in the mere presence of air and water, like metal does.

@@controlledsingularity8084 The metal canisters that are used to store olive oil are lines with plastic on the inside as well.

@@stapuft Recent studies show 100x higher levels of microplastics in plastic water bottle water than previously thought. Do you think the companies care? It is used because it is cheap and legal. Nestlee or whatever bottled water company has 0 care for your health.

@@DangerSquiggles Sadly true. But it is one time used plastic. Reusing plastic containers creates a rapid increase in microplastic shed.

Depends on how much post is already going to that location and how they clean it really.

So little of the plastic (at least in the US) is actually recycled, and if this isn't one of them, then sending it back is definitely better.

@@kelqueen9998 i might be a bit spoiled in that regard as in Norway most plastic is recycled.

the plastic hate i dont get. big items made out of plastic are not the problem in any way, microplastics are. even burning them for energy is better than cleaning glas bottles energy wise (and therefore co2 wise). transporting bladders and CLEANING them will likely result in more co2.

@0bloodshot0 large plastic items breakdown and become secondary microplastics. No plastic is good, only less bad. Glass and metal are better. Even if they're being transported, if it's en masse with other items then it's footprint is negligible. It only becomes a large issue if special trips are being made for those one off items instead of bulk transport with other things.

you have to compare the footprint of sending it back and forth to the footprint of shipping and processing all the raw materials for a new packaging every time. And and empty bottle can be reused again and again, unless you forsee a time when you will stop cooking with oil.

We are always looking to improve this (every year we tweak it a bit more), but when you send it back-it comes to us here in the UK (which is the only place we sell the oil). We pay to have the plastic fully recycled with TerraCycle so it closes the loop and the plastic is then able to be made into something new.

@@citizensofsoil oh wow, I was not expecting a reply from the source itself! That's great to hear and alleviates my concerns quite a bit, really glad to hear you're improving on processes and keeping all this in mind. All the best to you, wish you much success

Glass can take multiple rounds though, I doubt the pouches make more than two circles.

Yeah. It's definitely more wasteful than (what I said in another comment) a large metal tin of oil. Or glass bottles which are easily recycled. Most consumers are also not making the effort to send back a little plastic bag. So it's just adding plastic in its worst form (bags) into the trash cycle whether it's landfill or ocean dumped.

I checked their site. At $20USD for each 300ml pouch that's in the same price category as what high end US supermarket brands charge (California Olive Ranch's better varieties are about that price). Assuming their claims about single estate etc. are true you'd be getting some really good EVOO at really good prices. The pouches are opaque and airtight so basically the ideal packaging for oil. The bag in a box doesn't even appear on their site BTW.

Agree, metal or glass are almost endlessly recyclable, so 🤔

Here in Australia, I buy local olive oil in 3L steel cans. The cans are fully recyclable and cost about $35-$49 (Au). I'm not convinced using plastic bladders at a price point of (Au $162 as at time of writing) is either sustainable or affordable.

That's super interesting!

​@@SortedFoodYou guys are the Best 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

Interesting story indeed, especially when considering that the Biblical writer has presented it as a proof of cruelty towards Jesus. Makes one wonder why.

@@erzsebetkovacs2527 I disagree about the "proof of cruelty", it's just stated as a fact without the assessment of intentions (only in Lucas' gospel it's said that the soldiers delivered vinegar while mocking Jesus - but seeing how they mockingly called him a King, it's more about giving him a simple army drink instead of a wine, which would be more appropriate for a noble or royal person. A bit like giving someone dilluted lukewarm instant coffee instead of a fresh, hot espresso). It's a later association that by seeing a word translated to "vinegar" we only think of something very sour and awful to drink. Some scholars say that an acidic drink mixed of water and immature, sour wine was a common thirst quenching drink among roman soldiers, so they had it at hand. I guess in case of shrub it should also be sweetened a bit. It is unclear if the gesture was meant to relieve some pain by quenching convict's thirst (positive), or a way to extend the agony by nourishing the convict, or a mocking gesture with neutral drink (acting as a "servant giving the king something to drink when he's on his throne'), or a mocking gesture with a repulsive drink.

Hey! Thanks for the interest in Coffeenotes, we’ve just opened the store for US delivery 😊

@CoffeenotesStationery Good to hear, thanks for the info! 😊

​@@CoffeenotesStationerythat was quick 😂 good on ya!

I have to agree. I just can't see how it can travel around the continent in let's be honest a flimsy beewax container. So there has to be more packaging while shipping to ensure the product comes to the buyer intact. So in the end glass jars are still a better option, as it can be directly reused by the buyer instead of being composted, turned into candles or whatever you can else you can use bee wax for.

@@StormCrusher94 Eh, idk about where you live, but here in the US, about 70% of glass jars end up in the trash, rather than being reused or recycled.

@@rdizzy1 Where I live, I just take my empty honey jar to the honey guy at the market whe I buy a new one, and he washes and reuses it.

@@rdizzy1 We reuse glass jars yearly for pickling cucumbers, paprika, sweet chilis, also different kinds of jams and marmalades. And pretty sure a lot of people in the Balkans do that too. For the ones that don't do any of that, there are glass recycle bins.

@@StormCrusher94 In the US, statistically, roughly 70% of glass in these products ends up in a landfill. Thus, products like this are better for places like this.

Also, the struggle of battling cheap, imported glucose syrup sold as honey. If you want real honey, find a local beekeeper. Support local ecological small scale businesses.

That means a lot. 🥹 And you're exactly right on keeping oxygen out of the pouring. So important for keeping the quality up!

Really glad to have learned about shrubs! Now just to get stores near me carry them!

I was gonna say the same thing! Max did a shrub episode and there’s a recipe in his cook book! Interesting ingredient for sure!

I thought the same 😹

Glen from Glen and friends cooking also made a couple of shrubs a few months back.

​@@Mrhullsie2 I'll bet his used maple syrup. Mmmmm!

I was looking for a similar comment. Max did one a little while ago involving raspberry shrub and if I remember correctly the UK used to have some very affordable prices on their raspberries in comparison to here in the US. A shrub collab would be cool

They are showing the names of the companies on screen - you can just Google them.

Wishing you the speediest of recoveries! Xxx

Exactly, I don’t see that packaging as being responsible in the least. The most responsible packaging for olive oil is the very traditional metal tin which is 100% recyclable. Steel and aluminum are almost always recycled if disposed of as recycling; plastic is not. Even glass is better than plastic for both the longevity of the oil and for the planet. And if you want a refillable glass bottle, make it a sturdy glass bottle that is returned for deposit, rather than producing millions upon millions of plastic bags to refill it. Soda used to be sold that way in the US until the beverage industry successfully built the lie of recyclable plastics to relieve themselves of what they considered the hassle of return for deposit glass bottles.

Hi Joanna! All extra virgin olive oil should be used within 3 months of opening to get the best out of the oil. That's not specific to our oils-it's something we were taught by industry experts and reports around the best quality. We only state it as we want to ensure people get the best out of our oils (from both the nutritional and flavour side). You can, of course, use it beyond that-but as our oils are extra virgin which is like a fruit juice-we encourage using them the way the farmers and producers recommend.

Andalusian here: a liter of extra Virgin olive oil lasts in my parent's house one week or two at most 😅 I don't even think it should be used after 6 months

Not to mention that the vast majority of pollution isn't from individual people, but from large corporations, refineries, factories, cars, trucks... I'm pretty sure the largest polluter of the oceans is the fishing industry with all the garbage and nets they dump. Recycling as a way to save the world was mainly made up by large petrochemical companies as a way to offload the cost and responsibility of reducing pollution onto the local governments and individual people.

That's my issue with these things, they make you conscious and guilty of everything and put the world's problems on you, but then they are unaffordable to a vast majority of people. And I get it is new technology and new advances, and in time if it becomes the new normal and more people/companies start doing it that can bring the price down, as it being new/ethical is what can hike the price up. But it still doesn't change that right now it just isn't affordable for so many of us, which can make that guilt and shame even worse And as the other person said, pollution and waste is put on us as the consumers, but we are forced to purchase the products the manufacturers make, with the very often under paid budgets we are given. Greedy higher ups are the reason we can't afford these products, and greedy higher ups are the reason we're having to buy these unethical and unsustainable products, and those greedy higher ups are really the biggest issue

Then vote. There are political groups advocating for the return of mandate on glass for ex (so that recycling is paid by the producer) We live in democracies, we get to choose. As long as people are voting for right/central parties colluding with industrial magnates, no wonder things fall on the consumers...

@@etienne8110what about countries like China and India they pollute horribly (Us behind them) they aren’t exactly a democracy

@@LTDLetsPlays an indian pollutes 10 times less than an american. Same.for a chinese if you take into account the amount of products the factories are manufacturing for us... Stop looking elsewhere and tidy up your own room. 😉

Moreover the bees wax could be given back right away to the bees or not taken away at all.

Depends on how much the wax weighs, and what type of honey it is. Wax is scarce and I wouldn't be surprised if it's half that price or more. It has to be melted, filtered, and molded.

paper is bio-degradable and organic, There is not a single paper company on earth that does not plant as many, if not MORE trees than they cut down. Recycling paper products is pointless, does nothing for the planet and is almost exclusively used to sell rich people overpriced notebooks by using their guilt against them.

I wonder how they are able to separate paper and plastic, though, because this has been a near universal problem for years now. Sometimes, I have even opted out of buying takeout coffee when I was able to see beforehand that I would be served in a plastic lined cup.

I just posted a similar response about bringing your own containers. Doesn't Canada still also still sell milk in plastic bags which you pop in a jug, snipping the corner off? They tried it here in UK in the 70's but the idea didn't take off. I think with a bit of perseverance it could work here.

@@Getpojke Not all parts of Canada but a fair amount do have that! It's not common where I am but it's all my mum buys.

@@Getpojke They used to sell milk in these plastic pouches in Hungary when I was a child. I wish they still did that instead of tetrapak which, how does one recycle that anyway?

@@erzsebetkovacs2527 I get my milk delivered in glass bottles which the driver picks up again next delivery. But I think the bags would be so much better when buying from the supermarket/shops. I don't know if its an infrastructure thing but seemingly about 97% of local authorities in the UK can recycle Tetrapak containers in the UK? I don't imagine its cheap to do though!?

@@accio_braincells It seems a more sensible way to buy/sell it. I checked after my initial post & seemingly Sainsbury's tried it again in 2008 in the UK. Seemingly interest waned & they stopped the experiment in 2015.

Aye!

We're here for olive it. 🫒

Now that's super interesting!

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Australian, is it?

Each winter a hive goes into a form of hibernation and form a ball of bees. That means the frames used for honey string get removed, either to be melted down or store and returned to the bees next spring. In spring the bees start their yearly life cycle of frantically and effectively expanding their hive to produce as many bees to make the hive large enough the coming winter. If the weather holds the hives can become huge, but there many variables that can cause a hive to die. Dry summer weather makes the queen not lay eggs as to not empty the food storage, and mild winters can kill hives because the temps signals spring too early and they start expanding too quickly before spring flowers and trees have begun producing pollen and nectar.

But maybe some of the American solutions are not available to be sent to the UK?

@@tildehenriksen6242 maybe something in between with shipping more open.

Maybe someday... 🤩

>We also need something for those horrible plastic cups that people these days use in their coffee machines The inventor spent years campaigning against their use after inventing them :S

@@Idiomatick fascinating. I didn't know that. Thanks for the reply!

We're constantly asking experts in the circular, packaging, nutrition, sustainability, and olive oil space. It seems, for now, that these pouches and bag-in-box options are really great at keeping the quality of the oil-particularly in large formats that you pull from over time. But it was also a sustainability decision, as we some to sustainability experts and these pouches were 15x less carbon than the glass bottles, not to mention all the saved excess packaging and lower damage rates we have from shipping around the pouches over glass. But always on the hunt for something even better.

Yes, love this! And it's something we're working on...

I think the weird ash drink that roman gladiators drank is often given that appellation.

Also good for people who can't drink anymore or who maybe can't drink at the moment or those lunch meetings you want to be sober for. But still want something sophisticated and not just some soda or sugar fizzy drink.