TATA NEXON ne DHOKA de diya | Ford JIT Gaya -7° cold main 

Some additional infos for the Gyan Gurus who think I m trying to bad mouth Tata. Both the Ecosport n the Nexon have started from Bangalore, both are serviced before we started the trip. Both were filling Diesel at thesame tanks for the last 7-10 days. Both are travelling throu same terrainn Temperatures. So kindly think before you post a negative comment. And above all be practical yaar every vehicle has its own advantages n disadvantages, just be practical.

Sir as a Ford Fan, i can tell you not to worry it happens some times in diesel engines, -7C is EXTREME WEATHER FOR CITY DRIVING CAR. it can happen to anyone else also even if it is my Ford, nothing to do with the technology of Tata. Generally Diesel engines have this problem but it can be mitigated by following, 1) Proper engine check and service BEFORE TRIP 2) Clean or Replace Air Filters 3) USE Appropriate SYNTHETIC Engine Oil for extreme cold conditions to help deliver quick starts and fast lubrication for temperatures below normal 0W/20 ExxonMobil ENGINE OIL in Nexon BS6 Diesel & 5W/30 in Nexon BS4. Engine oil rarely solidifies when the temperature drops. This severely impairs the oil’s ability to flow when you start your engine. In some cases, the oil can thicken so much that it prevents the crankshaft from spinning fast enough to even start the engine. Gravity causes much of the oil to fall back into the oil sump, leaving components unprotected. Cold oil doesn’t flow immediately at startup, temporarily starving the engine of oil. Oil thickens more in sub-zero winter weather and causes increased starting difficulty, an engine is considered “cold” after it’s sat long enough to cool to ambient temperature, typically overnight. The oil inside your engine cools as it sits overnight. As it cools, its viscosity increases (it thickens). When it’s time to start your vehicle in the morning, the thicker oil doesn’t flow through the engine as readily as it does when it’s at operating temperature. It’s during this time that vital engine parts can operate without lubrication, increasing wear. 4) Check Battery condition also sometimes it may happen due to fluctuations in current due to extreme weather conditions. 5) Fill Good Fuel or add some diesel additives that helps diesel not to freeze and keeps fuel lines clean.

Viscosity of engine oil also plays major role in extreme weather conditions. Nexon uses 5w 40 engine oil where ecosport uses 5w 30 as per company recommendation. Lower the SAE, it helps engine oil to move faster in engine.

When arts student try to explain Newton's theory 😂😂.

You observe who start Ford ecosport in first attempt, he also started the nexon on first attempt. This is driver fault don't post any negative on any company. How he did start in one attempt but you can't do why that is your mistake not the nexon

In a diesal engine, in cold climate you have to continuously crank the engine to start it. The heater plugs warm the diesel in the engine block. You don't start the diesel car like a petrol car.

I think this is 1 st time u r running your car in cold temperatures..this is due to low quality mineral engine oil which most of car manufacturers normally use..use fully synthetic oil in any car & run it.even -7 temperature

You are giving a short cranking and expecting it to start. The EcoSport was a push-button start so the ECU started the car in correct way. If you start by keeping it cranking for long, it would have started. Also repeated short cranking can cause wearing of flywheel and starter motor gears.

1:10 - Maruti trolled for its legendary build quality

Ecosportian ek like toh banta hai bhai..💪

Due to incomplete combustion of diesel lots of smoke is coming but after rise in temperature of engine this problem will get resolved.

In cold region four heater plugs should be in a perfect condition. That means each plug should consume 20 amp current while glowing. If not that means it is weak or towards the death situation. Alternater belt, alternater should be perfect position and the battery also.

11:30 its the same sound what my indica makes everytime 😆😆🙌

The Glow Plug is automatic timer based (instead of temp sensor or thermostat based) in Nexon, so instead of once if you repeat it for 3 times, the engine is nicely preheated by the glow plug and this problem is avoided. Also, the engine oil put into EcoSport is probably better suited to this temp. Otherwise Nexon Diesel does not has any startup problems in comparison to others. With my 3 years of experience from cold winters of Sikkim (5000 ft + alt.), never faced any such issues. But mine is manual. You are right, may be EcoSport AMT would also have a similar issue. Plus, stuff in a cloth in exhaust pipe immediately after engine sw. off.

Four Heater plugs takes total 80 amp current for heating . And it takes about 8-10 seconds after that the self get the full current. If any of your plug is weak or dead then starting problems arise.

At last we could understand that only problem was driver! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Just a suggestion for cold start give a few glow plug cycles before cranking. Just cranking does not help much. In manual you can give a bit of acceleration while cranking. If possible use a lower temperature engine oil . This applies for any diesel car, some more some less.. In this situation, I would suggest left foot on brake and right on accelerator may help.

Common sense use synthetic oil -2c degree Your engine is diesel Pre heating

Vlogger with zero experience of deisel cars.... Thats what can i say. Hope Tatas didn't saw this video saying you nexon failed and sue you for defaming. Car that have taken you safely at such high altitude and you are saying that it failed. How silly statement just for fame.

There may be some issue with the car. May be engine oil used is not the one recommended by company or may be anything else. Although petrol engines are different but still I would like to mention that my Petrol Nexon never required second attempt even in negative temperature. It has push start.

Yes Ford has good vehicles..but if nobody is buying their vehicles then how can they survive in the market🤷(we have EcoSport automatic and it's a very fun to drive car)

Actual problem is the oxygen... You have to open air filter or switch to performance air filter it will work properly

White smoke happens when fuel burns inefficiently. Lack of Oxygen to engine maybe due to choked air filter is causing this problem. Also go for synthetic engine oil which will not freeze.

Boss in cold weather start, kindly keep ignition key On for 5-15 minutes

All diesel car owners may please note the suggestions made in the comment section by Mr Abhijit Sarkar and Mr Pushpak. Being a diesel car owner, I use repeated heating ( glow plug cycles) before cranking. From the difficulty faced in starting and the initial smoke, one of the reasons could be that the engine heating plugs are either deteriorated or some heating plugs are dead.

Thers an additive called system d which is to be put @1ml/liter its available mostly at hp pumps in cities....it aids in not freezing diesel lines and acts as An injector cleaner too.. its made for extreme climates

And tata fan boys rant that its the best car, ik its one of the safest car but reliability issues in tata cars is almosy never ending.

Trust me Tata is still not there in terms of reliability even though they have improved!

Undoubtedly ecosport is the best in compact suv segment... But surprisingly ford wrap up their production from India

You should turn off the Ignition completely and then turn on immediately and do this 3 times and at the 4th time crank the engine. Do not just crank the engine at first attempt. Make sure you turn off the ignition completely then turn on immediately and do this 3 times until it starts . Nexon did not fail you did not know the trick. Also keep cranking until the engine starts . Engine was trying to start you would leave the cranking, that is not correct. Keep cranking until it starts completely. No need to be disappointed

Not to worry abt it, it happens in places like this. Uske bina kya adventure? Although u can do a thing. keep 1or half lit petrol with u, Anywhr this happens, simply open air intake (post air filter pipe), u can spray small amount of petrol in it, or get wet petrol cloth, and put it there. It starts in 1-2selfs, & saves battery

Bhai car ko service center leke jayo kuch problem h car me

You have Lack of knowledge on how to start a diesel engine and stop unnecessary critising tata. Tera Ford ran away but tata will never leave its customers coz it's apna Indian company.

You're leaving it as soon as it is catching the ignition 😂

Funny part is that when Go Mechanic ad came I thought it was a real ad not from yt 😅😂

This reminds of me of the interceptor high altitude stopping situation faced by bulu bhai..later which was acknowledged and addressed by royal Enfield.. hopefully tata does the same too.. kudos to bulu bhai for bringing such facts infront of everyone so we don't have to face it.

As per my experience, this due to the quality of engine oil. Ford must have got better engine oil. Did you go for premium full synthetic oil for this trip?

Tuje start krna nahi aata, woh bhaisahab ne fatak se start krdi dono gadi

Ecosport is GOAT ❤❤

proud owner of Ecosport diesel 😁😁. But i think if you have hold the crank longer it would have started early. In cold you have to give ignition 3-4 times before start

Related to engine and overall build quality, We can blindly rely on Ford. But unfortunately , from onwards, we don't have india built Ford cars. All we have to do , if we want, we need to import by paying 130% import duty. But still this is really an eye opening observation for Tata’s car. If possible, someone has their friend/relative working with Tata Motors, Please forward this video so they can make sure this kind of condition while testing their normal consumer engines.

Go mechanic walon ne shi kaam nhi kiya blue bhai 😅

Get some driving skills first .... don't blame the car build and technology......at freezing cold temperatures first of all use heating plugs multiple time by switching on and off the ignition key for at least 5-6 times......and then try to start the ignition.....but don't leave it as hurry as u were doing....keep holding the ignition key for a few seconds to get the engine proper rotation for start.

Is region me 0w40/0w30 oil use karna padta hai, aur before giving a crank you should switch on & off 2-3 times to crank gets heated with hot plugs

Pura Indian Army Tata and Mahindra diesel pe chal raha hai mast... 👍

Your friend just knows the right trick to start, u are better in bikes not in cars, u should have pressed and left the accelerator every time then it would have started in -2°c. Only

Ford is definitely better but ab nahi milega India me. Bulu bhai, Tata diesel mein glow plug heat up karne ke liye ignition on karke wait 10-15 sec karo, aur 3-4 bar repeat karo without pushing to crank. Aise glow plug heat up ho jayega aur less crank me start hoga.

Tata engines and its engineering is not good, just accept it, no need to give excuses on behalf of tata in the comments section... ford good at engineering and tata good at marketing but not at engineering

Aur karwao go mechanic se service also get ur machines serviced from authorised service centres even after ur car is out of warranty

Tabhi we dropped the plan of Nexon and bought Honda Wr-v maja aata hai chalane ka 💪💪with Honda reliability

You should on off ignition atleast 6 to 7 tym so that heater plugs heats the combustion chamber .

Looks like tata forgot to put glow plugs in their disel engines

It's sad that Ford has left India. A proud Ford (ecosport) owner. 😞

Diesel engines have improved a lot over the years but this was something least expected

Ford is Boss, Boss is boss. No comparison with Nexon, Desi hai pare low technology hai, overcome karna hoga., No blind devotion, ford is ford.

Just use fully synthetic oil and whenever you go in hilly areas before starting car turn on and off ignition 10-15 times and crank continously it will solve your problems Pahele istemaal kare phir vishvas kare iam engineer and a technician from heart but i have no degree 😂👍

Bulu bhai itani thand mey gadi idel karke heater mat chalao. engine apne idel running temperature pey aani ki try krta hai aur heater uski heat khich raha hota hai. usse engine pe extra load padta hai.

humko to Diesel vehicles k air intake pipe ko khol k aag ko saamne rakh k self lagana padta tha tab jaake start hota tha

Pehle hi Sonu se start karwate to 20+ wasted crank na lagte. Magic or he knows diesels better.

Deisel freezes . Easy solution put hot water on deisel pump . Ecosport deisel pipes must b better insulated. Happens with all deisel engines. Carry anti freeze deisel additive at below 0 temp

Fact same driver started both cars 💐

Sir ecosport is push start stop , it ll crank untill engine starts up , but nexon didnt start because its manual crank

Quality of engine oil and coolant plays a very important role in these types of temperatures

Bhai y to wahi bat huw bahar k dasi sb A6 hai or apna kharb Jb corona aay tha tb Tata n hi help kiy tha Muj proud hai ki Tata India ki hai Or m life time tk Tata ka fan rahuga 🚩Jay shree Ram 🚩

I too had gone to Leh Ladakh in Wr-v diesel no issues mast performance and fully reliable

I guess you should have a follow up video trying to suggest solutions for such 1 off issues ... I am sure you are a very responsible and sensible vlogger who doesn't just blame brands and leave them as is .

Its not all smoke, it condensed vey fast in environment giving impression of lot o smoke just like we see marks made by aircraft in sky, its not some but condensation. 🙂

Your problem is you could be using normal diesel, instead winter diesel!!!! At the same time you have to use particular mixture of coolant!!

Tata should improve their technical and electrical quality. Of course they make 4 and 5 star car , but poor built quality everywhere

FORD IS ALWAYS KING ❤️🔥🔥🔥😀❤️❤️

I think u need to hold ur crank for longer...u leave as it revs...hope next time u will try this too 👍..u should not hv croped sonu's footage...means how he started n how he held tht crank..u directly showed tht car has started...so this is not good bro

In - degree, you can put Salt in diesel tank and second, you can use heaters switch 2/3 Times before starting the car

I can start my zest at this temperature. You need to maintain the car and also Tata testes all its cars in Ladakh so it is totally your fault at not maintaining the car and maybe you would have some agenda

With soo much issue how can you keep your cool like this, you r the man brother... 🔥🔥🔥

I just came from Ladakh Spiti 3.5k tour on my Nexon Petrol MT, no issues at all. Minus 7 degree startup in morning was flawless. I/ Nexon have seen the worst of roads in this region, no issues. Maybe because of petrol version. Nexon and Tata both rock. Thank you team Tata.

Next time try using synthetic oil in place of normal engine oil. It will help u better in such an exterm condition.

We will miss ford a lot 😔

Ford, Honda, suzuki and toyota engines are leagues ahead from many companies

Sir new nexon mein problem nhi hota hai, mera amt hai, 2°c mein ek hi baar mein start liya tha mera

I'm Indian but I condemned Indian's companies like Tata and Mahindra 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

You're making a huge mistake. You do not turn the ignition key off and on to switch on the heater. This is why the car doesn't start. You should not wait after the heater light is off. Ford has an advantage if the engine doesn't start you've to turn the key off and then turn on. This process automatically switches on heater. If you don't know the technicalities you should not mislead people and blame the car. Another reason is that the fuel lines are frozen. In Ford the fuel lines are not completely exposed. Agreed that western car designs are better equipped to function in winter. Tata ignores that their cars are to be used in Kashmir, Ladakh etc. When I was working with GM, I found Indian vehicles like Scorpio wouldn't start in winter in Ladakh and Kashmir. Instead Chevy and Toyota cars wouldn't have such issues. I found Tavera was the best car for extreme winter. Innova used to take some time. Safari and Scorpio never started in December. Tavera would start even under -28 degrees

Tata can't match with ford

I’ve driven in these regions many times.. don’t wait when you turn on the ignition.. problem is you’re trying to start a diesel engine like a petrol engine. Turn the key in one go and crank immediately.. the glow bulb turn off when you wait on the ignition that’s why it is taking too much time.. Tata ka sath koi problem nhi h bhai tumhe start krne nhi aa rhi

Too many pissed Nexon owners in comment section. What is the problem with you guys? He is just showing the reality. Nothing personal here!!

Tata is best. Ford shutdown it's production in india due to low sales figure.

Today I can proudly say my family owns a Ford Ecosport . 😎

Always cover your exhaust pipe with a sock orr some cloth when parking in that temperature. Also if u can use car cover that would help if it snows at night...

Ford cars r gem...but sadly it went from India 😭

That's the reason i prefer MT over AT

Ab Comments me Sare Engineers aa jyenge 😂😂😂😂😂

Even my Punto still starts in one self only in these same conditions Fiat solid cars

Hi Bulu, there is a specific Engine Oil variant in case you are going to subzero temperatures. It is always recommended to use 0W20 before you start off for a colder destination. Helps in preventing the knocking. Ford may have used the 0w20

Always love FORD FROM INDIA ❤️

I also own a tata nexon diesel...and now i am thinking if i take it to offroad what all should i plan befor heading towards my destination...otherwise the car is fair enough for city use...👍

Sir apne ek dam sahi bola as an ecosport owner is a really good car meri car 1 crank me he start hi gaye thi snow me love ford...

TATA vehicles are extremely over-hyped. Now a days, it seems that TATA= National jingoism. That is deliberate PR work but being brought by jingoists. Vehicles have to be assessed on their reliability, technological excellence, comfort level, handle and many mechanical factors rather than Nationalism. Nevertheless TATA as a company is growing fast. They are money rich and they acquired the likes of Jaguar, Land Rover and all. And so over a period of time they will get inspired from these big cars, copy their technologies and may make some good cars. But now it’s just trial and error process for TATA is going on. And they keep grow at the cost of all those brilliant cars from Ford, Fiats, Chevys, who were unable to sell mass numbers in a not at all conducive market for foreign car companies and left India.

Sometime it feels that nexon leaves some amount of control when it goes above 120-130kmph

TATA always rock... Maintain first your car properly 🤣🤣🤣

It’s ur fuel adulteration issue not Tata defect by the way it’s very natural to get impurities fuel on higher altitude coz of lack of availability

Petrol runs on spark ignition while diesel is compression ignition so it takes heat inside the cylinder for it to start u should give glow plug cycles a lot of time before cranking the engine or else you are risking the life of the engine aswell and do not rev the cold engine it's never a good idea to put a lot of fuel inside cold diesel engine. When we start the cold locomotives in , we cut governor for a moment so the cylinder heats up with compression before letting it add the fuel . U can not do this in electronic engine.