So i recently purchased the Defender 605 with the tungsten wood grips. Absolutely beautiful revolver. Took it to the range 3 times and did general cleaning twice. No problems and then all of the sudden the ejector rod is getting stuck and then the cylinder wont release. I just sent it back to Taurus for a warranty claim. Hoping its an easy fix but its a bummer to have issues after only about 150 rounds through it.
The first time I sent my 905 back for light primer strikes it cost me $50 for shipping and Taurus said they shot 10 rounds and found no problem. The next 3 times I sent it in they sent me a free shipping label. Finally after 4 returns to the factory, I have fired over 500 rounds and every round has gone bang. In the last year I have sent 2 different Charter Arms, a Kimber, and a Smith and Wesson performance center in for repairs. I'm disappointed in the Quality control of all gun manufacturers.
Machines are prone to defects and malfunctions. Just the nature of the game. My judgement of a manufacturer, however, is directly tied to how they deal with the issues their products have and how they treat their customers. Taurus isn't the worst in the world, (and I have some very functional Taurus firearms), but S&W and Ruger are at a higher level with both craftsmanship, (obviously), and more importantly, customer care. My 856 has been cracking off rounds consistently since I got it back, but only time and many rounds will tell the whole story.
I've had good experiences with my Taurus pistols. I actually contacted Taurus about some corrosion on the slide of my gx4 with a tungsten slide. They sent me a shipping label and in just over a week I had my firearm back with a new slide no questions asked . There was even a holiday in that time frame. Excellent customer service!
I’ve had my Taurus 856 for a least 10yrs and I can say it works flawlessly… I’ve even let someone use it to pass a revolver class for the teachers teachers permit and he loved it… I’m sorry your story is not the same as mines…I trust my life with my 856
@@donsettie3799 exactly. Why do people feel the need to lie about a product just because they bought and liked it? Personally? I would like a 20,000 round update on these taurus revolvers....something tells me we wont find any examples
Literally just bought my 605 yesterday. Put 75 rounds through it today and it broke completely. A pin came out the side and the entire cylinder and a bunch of pins fell out. I don’t care what people say they are not to good with quality control.
I just got an 856, and as I look at it closely I see that the barrel is not on straight! It's very slightly off, so I don't think it will affect accuracy, at least not at the short distances I am most likely to use it (it's going into my conceal-carry rotation), but I'm disappointed.
I have a 605 steel. I have had it back to Taurus twice. I've had it for 20 years, and I bought it used at a gun show. Once for a forcing cone adjustment and once for a broken sear. But I run Hot 357 Magnum loads through it, and I have shot it a lot. It took about 6 weeks each time. The last time they shipped it back to me, I got no notification is was coming. It came in a fed ex box and they didn't require a signature or anything. I just found it sitting on my front porch when I got home from work! Ruger has great customer service, completely not like Taurus.
All my returns to Taurus were sent back that way... I wld assume that the steel 605 is WAAAAYYYYY better to shoot than the poly. And I'm sure it's far more durable.
I have a SS 605 and had minor issues with lockup on the very first 5 rounds of 357. Zero issues after firing a few boxes and it seems to have smoothed out all the wheel and action. I actually shoot it better than all my polymer handguns by far, most accurate handgun i own.
I'm with you 100%. I've had 3, all 3 broke within 500 rounds fired. In addition, The customer service dept. charged me for shipping. Absurd. Bad company. Never again.
I just got my 856 back for the 3rd time for light primerstrikes. First time they said they replaced the hammer spring. I had just done that before sending it back lol. I put Wolff springs in and although the trigger was alot better, I still had light primer strikes. Second time, they said they "adjusted the cylinder axis", which is a fancybway of saying they whacked it with a special hammer. I still had the same problems. Now, Taurus says that they replaced the firing pin and hand. I don't know what the "hand" is, so I will do some research. I'm going to the range tomorrow. We will see how it goes, but I will never trust my life with it no matter how many rounds go through it. I'm going to try and trade it for some 357 ammo at the next gun show.
The thing with Taurus is that you never know what you're gona get. Some are great. Some are garbage. I have a couple of their guns that have been rock solid and will probably be passed down to my kid. I have some that I wouldn't trust to take care of a lazy squirrel...
Whenever there's a "light primer strike" complaint, they always put a heavy ass hammer spring in it. Sometimes, light strikes are caused by poor fitment, excess friction, bent internals. If your hammer is scratched up, it's hitting the frame, causing light primer strikes. Take it to a smith, I did a trigger job, added reduced power springs, my 856 runs like butter.
I just had to return a Ruger Mark IV. So I went ahead and bought a 605. In a day and age where nothing is built or works right, might as well roll the dice on a Taurus.
605 Taurus.357 Snub is my everyday carry, Never had any issues, you can get a Lemon with any Gun. I have had problems with S& W and Ruger. Got them fixed and moved on.🇺🇸🤙🏽👍🏽😎
The 605 poly & ruger LCR snubby's are both polymer, with that being said. I would only run .357 mag 110grain up too 125 grainers. In these Lil poly pocket rockets. And leave the heavier 158 grainers for the steel 3"barrels & up. I've had my Lil 605 poly going on better part of 6yrs now and never had any issues with it. In which I acquired from a pawn shop pick up at one Hella deal. To this day it's still part of my EDC rotation and makes an excellent run to the corner store from some munchies pocket rocket, when I don't wanna pack my g19 or kimber ultra carry 2. For a quick trip to the store. IMHO. always carry , stay vigilant, stay safe.
Weather they have a great warranty that's to many problems with two tuarus pistols, your life may depend on it or your family, I will never buy a tuarus.
I have a Taurus 65 with a loose transfer bar . It is under an induced coma in my safe cause all I hear is not so good things about their customer service.
@@B1GMAC_03 I wish you luck and I thought this defect which sometimes ends in an unusable gun (transfer bar breaks or falls off)was taken care of. I bought my first Taurus back in 1978 ,they were useless.Waited 40years and still terrible quality control. I would return it and get a Smith , Colt Ruger.Do not play around with self defense tools.Best of luck again.
@@B1GMAC_03 Yes they do work for a while , until they don't. It would be great to know if they finally fixed that issue, those revolvers really look good. Good Luck !
Taurus appears to be all over the place when it comes to quality control; some peeps hate them because of experiences like yours, but my own cautious appreciation is based on having only one of their guns that runs well. I have the 856 and I prefer this over my S&W 642. I know, I know: hate. This particular Taurus is just better for me; the 642 is noticeably smaller, but I carry the 856 well enough. I've run maybe 300 rounds through it with absolutely no problems, and currently have a laser grip on it. I'd LIKE to get the 856 Defender (3" barrel) but am struggling with the idea of getting a gun that serves no real purpose for me, other than just a carry replacement for the 856 I already carry. Reviews like yours really do influence fence-sitters like me. Good luck with your guns.
Thanks for the comment. And believe it or not, I actually am a Taurus fan. But they are the epitome of unreliable as a manufacturer. Some of my Taurus pistols are great and i like a lot of the Taurus accessories. Some are just plain junk and their customer service is about as bad as I've experienced in the firearm industry. But the G3C and GX4 are both very good guns that have been extremely consistent and reliable. I will have an update on my 856 coming soon.
@@johnnyshootsalot I hear good things about the Taurus G-lines and I've recommended them to my sister in Nevada. I live in Unicornia so they're considered unsafe murder guns that can only bring mayhem to the diaper-wearing citizens of the state, thus are not on the allowable roster. Hopefully the 9th circuit will fix that issue soon.
Thank you. You just helped me make my decision as to whether I should get a 605 or not? I recently bought an EAA Windicator 2 inch snubby in 38 special. In spite of mix reviews, I bought it anyway simply because it looks nice, shiny, and black unlike the matte dull finish of revolvers in that price range. Kind of reminiscent of Colt snub nose of bygone era. Now I am hesitant to even shoot it because of what I may discovered. Maybe I will use it as a conversation piece. Lol
Hey, thanks for watching! I think the steel 605 is probably a decent gun, and would be a good .38 special shooter. But the 605 poly protector is just not built like it should be. If you ONLY intended on carrying it in a bag or something and not really shooting it, I can see how it would be useful. But even then, you need to regularly shoot a gun that you carry, and that one will wear out before long. Now, the 856 is another story, and overall is a decent option. That said, you can get a S&W used for just a few dollars more and that would be a much better and safer option.
Very interesting. How'd that turn out? I had the same problems with my brand new 856ULCH. Sent back to Taurus with a crooked barrel. Paperwork said they adjusted the barrel, but it's no different. Then started getting light strikes, so sent it to Bainbridge again. Came back with paperwork that just said "replaced cylinder". They certainly did, and it was covered with surface rust. I just light sanded and oiled it up vs sending it back. Now, I'm getting the same result you are: This was my best shooting small gun, and now it's not an accurate shooter at all. I also noticed that the trigger action is not as smooth as it was (might just need to wear that cylinder down some). At any rate, I reached the same conclusion you did, in that I don't know if I'll ever shoot that gun again.
I am dealing with my own Taurus 605 issues, freewheeling of the cylinder, over travel of the cylinder in single action, amongst other things. Out of all of my firearms, this is without a doubt the most dangerous one for the operator. It is too similar to the snafu of the Reminington 700 safety failure. The 605 is a dangerous pistol to its handler.
I don't have experience with the steel framed 605, but the poly 605 is indeed trash. Taurus is like many budget focused companies these days. You just never know what you're gona get, and they don't have the integrity to really stand behind their products like Ruger or S&W. No doubt, you can get a very good functioning product from them. But you can also get something almost worthless in the next box.
I just got a new taurus 856.im starting to try to give taurus another chance after a bad experience with 2 taurus guns years ago..the Taurus TCP and Taurus 85 that the cylinder locked on me.hopefully the 856 and G2C does right by me.good video.
I shot up a Taurus TCP. The frame cracked on it after 1000's of rounds over the years. I like the gun for pocket carry, had extra mags and holsters for it. So, I figured it has a lifetime warranty, and I sent it back. They said the couldn't fix it and sent me a Taurus spectrum. That gun was a piece of crap, I sold it.
I'd recommend Ruger products. They make excellent guns and have a reputation for exceptional customer service. If anything goes wrong, they'll fix it, no questions asked. I'd avoid Smith and Wesson for now. Lately they've got a bad reputation for poor customer service and their products are substandard.
@21tango 21tango he sure is getting bad info...i needed parts for my S&W called them up and they sent me the parts for free without even asking for a seriel number or anything...great customer service in my experience...
@@mountainview540 they should be pretty readily available. If not ask your gunshop for the magtech or remington 158 LWC aka lead wadcutters. Also the federal 148 grain semi wadcutter was what the fbi was using when they carried revolvers. You could always try midwayusa pr luckygunner too. I've dealt with both companies for years but lean to midwayusa due to them also selling scopes, bipod, etc. You don't need to reload to get some good wadcutters. Great thing about them is they don't have the recoil of +p jhps cuz they don't need them. They cut clean through and tumble after expending about 60% of their energy. They are devastating and smooth shooting. I'm just saying, worth trying out to see if you like em. 👍
@@eugenea2553I did with a matte black 856, and the armscor did ok. Didn't group real tight, but was not bad. It shot about 4 or 5 inches in mine, but the american eagle 158gr LRN would put all 6 in a playing card sized group if not a bit smaller every time at 15 yards.
Purchased my 3" 856 last year new in box didnt work sent it in got it back still didnt work sent it back again got it back and guess what still not fixed needles to say it took me sending it in 3 times to finally get it back. Uhg' 🥴 my other taurus pistol were spot on out of The box.
This is an emblematic story of Taurus firearms. Some are great. Some are complete trash. You never know what you'll get inside that orange and white box. If you can accept that, then I say embrace Taurus. I have some of their guns that are really fantastic. But if you're betting on getting, or genuinely need, a solid, reliable piece for whatever reason, perhaps it would be prudent to look elsewhere.
The 605 Poly is garbage,,been there with that one.Now when I carry a small 357 mag revolver,it's the Ruger SP101.I've had nothing but good luck with my 856.I have over 2k rounds through it.It's been a real tack driver.I know all too well about the Taurus CS,,nothing I want to deal with again but hopefully my good luck with my 856 will continue.
I had been a pretty big fan of the 856 until it started having the issues mentioned here. Good feel, good shooter, good size. It's still a decent gun and I've run a ton of rounds through mine, but it's sad that it didn't stand up to the test of time. I'll throw a cpl thousand more rounds through it and see where it stands at that point before I judge it's ultimate trustworthiness.
Sounds like when I was at a tech company for a day, they had 10s of computer projects and it was a mess. They had a wall of projects done or not finished and some sat for over a year because of communication. Probably a good company but maybe an independent (high quality) gun smith might have better results otherwise I would send it back to them. I think a lot of people are interested in the .410/454 casull like myself.
I must be the luckiest old goober in the world as I have yet to purchase a Taurus pistol or revolver that did not function flawlessly out of the box. On top of perfect function every Taurus I have ever owned was stupid accurate and I ain't no Olympic level handgun shooter. My current CCW is a 9mm G2C but to be honest, now that the seasons are changing, I'll be switching to my trusty old S&W Compact DAO single stack in .40S&W for fall and winter carry.
Well, that's the thing with Taurus. You just never know what you're gona get. I have some that have been great shooters and great values. I have some that would be better used as paperweights...
My problem lies more with FLEET FARM THAN WITH TAURUS, as far as I am concerned NEITHER COMPANY IS CUSTOMER ORIENTED,,, THEY ONLY SERVE THEMSELVES PERIOD AND WILL NOT HO OUT OF THE WAY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC!!!!!!!!
Was considering a Taurus 605 2“ due to the price. Gonna spend a little more. Seeing too many of these warranty vids. And I always wonder if some mfrs deliberately screw up your gun if it gets sent in for warranty as it's money out of their pocket or "it gets lost in the system" or "work on it has already been completed" as code for "...this is to make sure you don't try send anything back in again"
Had 1 856 that the cylinder would spin backwards if u only loaded a few tLked to Taurus they said just load it all the way lol. Needless to say I made sure that one was totally inoperable (or fixable) and told em to send me a new one and they did. New one hasn't shown any signs of trouble
In the old days of the wild west you probably only had let's say in a day fired your gun 24 times just an example at the end of the day before you go to sleep, you clean your gun and oiled it don't you that's taking care of your best friend who keeps you alive wright. 700 round's is excessive pressure to a gun it becomes very hot and dirty with carbon it gets everywhere your cylinder shaft will run dry and won't spin freely with carbon build up on it. 700 round's is excessive on firing pins and springs you will have problems. Normally your hand gun in its life in self defense had only say been fired three to six times probably or more in it's life and yes I know you fire more times than that in target practice but never 700 round's it's not a toy your life depends on it, he's your friend he keeps you alive wright so treat him as much with kindness.
I have a Taurus 605 & no issues with it. I own S&W & Ruger & Springfield Armory & Glock. My best most reliable of them all is my Glock. Glocks are very close to 1911 model pistols in terms of reliability.
Glocks are generally more reliable than 1911s as many need tuning to run truly reliably, but that was always expected with a 1911. It's considered normal to have to tune extractors or magazines or detents on the slide lock or safety.
Tarsus is just like any other gun company some are off from the company I got a new SW 686 plus the fit and finish was very poor the shooting was way off.All my tarsus guns are well made and good shooters people love to hate tarsus good value firearms Nuff said
Not all 856's are created equal. I would buy a Galloway spring kit for that 856. they're $15.00 and take less than a half hour to change out. You stated that Taurus said they fired 357 magnum 158 grain, But a Taurus 856 is a 38 special and can't fire 357 rounds. I would either contact them by phone and read that to them and ask them how in the hell did they fire 357's out of that 38 special. Then I'd seek out a gun smith and have it looked at. also I can't state it enough about the Galloway spring kits. there's a video on You Tube to walk you through it. I'm ordering my spring kit at the beginning of the month as I only get paid once a month. I really like your grips on that, I put some Pachmayr Renegade rosewood grips on mine. I really wanted the Matt stainless when I bought mine, but they were all sold out, so I bought the Matt Black. no problems yet. I hope it stays that way. thanks for sharing your experience. I hope you get your problems resolved. Peace..Joe
Mmm... Taurus fired .357's out of the 605, which is a .357 magnum rated firearm. I have installed several spring kits. Some are improvements some aren't. But they can often lead to further problems.
@@thebluesrockers it's not uncommon to create a problem with light primer strikes when you start installing aftermarket spring kits intended to lessen trigger pull. What they're doing is using a spring with less inherent tension to make the trigger easier to squeeze. In turn, that sometimes causes insufficient spring tension for the hammer to do it's job. I have installed a couple of Galloway kits in revolvers, but they were in guns I don't use for any defensive purposes. So, if it doesn't "go bang", worst case is I miss a big buck or something. No doubt, with my Taurus Model 44, that kit improved trigger feel. Bit I'm not Yosemite Sam and I don't carry that gun. I hunt with it. I installed one of their kits in my LCP 2 and didn't notice any difference at all. I discuss that in one of my LCP videos.
@Deleted yep the 856 is indeed a 38 special, like I very clearly said only 17 seconds into this video. And the 605 is a 357 magnum. Did you actually watch this or just trying to shitpost?...
I had bunch of misfires with my Taurus, however when I loaded the one which misfired in S&W they fired. Do you think it’s a Taurus problem or maybe try different ammo?
I have been having a high rate of misfires with Armscor .38 in my 856. Shot 600 rounds of it, and every box had about 25-30 percent misfire. Always when triggered DA. Primers show a dent but I can fire them SA in same gun. All other brands I've used-Winchester, Fiocci, CCI and Aguila have fired with no issues.
Bought an 856 at FLEET FARM IN MINNESOTA GOT IT HOME AND WHILE CLEANING I SAW THAT THE BARREL WAS PITTED SENT IT BACK TO TAURUS AND THEY SAID THEY REPLACED THE BARREL, WELL WHEN I GOT IT BACK. SND CLEANED IT I SAW THE SAME PITTING SO THEY DID NOT REPLACE THE BARREL AND I THINK THEY PROBABLY JUST CLEANED IT AND SENT IT BACK , I am an old dude who spent time as a MEDIC IN VIETNAM AND I WILL NEVER NEVER BY TAURUS!!!
They've improved in a lot of ways over the last decade, but personally, I feel like they've still got some work to do. Particularly, in the customer service department. I don't think they value their customers in the way that one would expect from a firearm manufacturer.
@@johnnyshootsalot Yeah, I guess you are right, it would suck if it was really needed and it didn't work. New Idea, sell it to a gunsmithing student. My gunsmith love getting a hold of non working guns when he was a student.