Taylor Swift and Matty Healy: A Retrospective 

Thank you for the video! I was wondering what the background music during the nature of celebrity monologue towards the end?

@@rampion1228I think she posts the free to use music on her Patreon. These ones have yet to be posted. (she makes the tracks)

Pardon me, Ms. Rose...I just finished rewatching the MGK/Megan Fox vid, and now wonder if you’ve watched/reviewed the MGK/Megan Fox movie yet...I’ve seen one review of it, and it’s seems to be as nonsensical and insufferable as advertised...I am VERY interested if you will be able to pull comedy out of that dud. It’s a stoner movie released in a world where weed is legal in most places, and it seems like no one involved with the movie actually knows how weed affects people...the whole movie evolved from a typo and several blunts. I really like watching reviews of some movies rather than watching the actual movie...it was a pleasant day when I discovered reaction/commentary youtubers,

@@rampion1228make it all myself! Uploading the tracks free to use on patreon today

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Maybe she was talking about the porn actresses?

or meant subconscious bias. but we cant know for sure

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I think ro may have been talking about the porn stars? Idk

Hey! My point was that even if he was ostensibly "joking" or "not serious" that the things he said indicated at the very minimum an internal bias. Sorry I didn't convey this better, I was attempting to say that I was "forced" to believe he held those biases at the very least.

forgot to mention your campaign in the video

And I hope you do 🫡

Is this a bit?? Do you have an actual campaign?? I am so intrigued...

And yet, you choose not to.

I will support your campaign

That’s Americans for you

​@@baptizednblood6813 love how you think all americans are straight white ppl while attempting to condemn straight white ppl. Shut up cause you're just as bad.

You losers need to touch grass, and Healy is literally English. Swift sucks Healy is talented and funny.

I'm mean as a TS fan and a leftist, Taylor has never presented herself as a leftist. She has always shown herself to be a lib white woman and this is on brand behavior for lib white woman

The irony of this statement is matty actually has associations and ties to leftist communities while Taylor does not. Its just that those leftist communities are ok with edgy jokes.

Right??!! Such outstanding content, it doesn’t matter the topic, it’s always mind expanding

Exactly! I didn't give a single shit but the second Ro posted a video I was like "omg what happened!? Tell me everything!"

That's the Ro Effect. She makes everything interesting!

Yeah you get it I care about Ro and her beautiful light speed jokes

Yup!!

I'm so sorry you unforgot about Americans, must've been nice to not remember those existed lol

70 degrees in october is still plenty of reason to be really concerned about global warming

i realize i also forgot about Americans for a sec and it may be warmer for some of them, we’s americans

it used to snow in october where i live in the US & it’s been 50°F or more everyday recently. it is definitely a valid concern

yeah 70 degrees Celsius would be a bit of a point of concern

Yeah I'm pretty sure she has the most celebrity private jet emissions as well. She's actively killing the environment on top of everything 💀

as a lifelong fan it was really hard to come to terms with the fact that she wrote "epiphany" (which is ab hope in the middle of a pandemic) and then went to tour all over the world in these superspreader events. considering the situation with her mom's health I figured she'd be _the_ celebrity to show solidarity for medically vulnerable people. but turns out she just has rich people methods of keeping _her_ and _her_ family safe but implementing pandemic safety for her fans at her events is just "too political" now. as a queer person I trust her allyship because of the actual political activism she's done, but I don't trust her allyship anywhere else really.

@ho-sette i nearly cried when i read ur comment casually with my mindset as a disabled person living in ‘covid doesn’t exist’ hell. I always feel alone. The worst part is there is no way to have these events safely- in crowds as big as even half the current size they couldn’t ensure proper masking, ventilation, spacing. It’s impossible without extensive money spent and that will never happen. Even outdoor events are superspreader events because people are squished together unmasked, there is no testing culture anymore and infection tracing is non existant. I saw so many people posting about that fucking tour, living life like it’s an alternate dimension, and I hated them and her more than ever. And i’ve never felt too strongly about her, besides her being a billionaire.

@@caseymarie292 YEP YEP YEP. I've been teetering back in forth in sheer insanity since the m*ndates ended early 2022 and the c d c changed that stupid freaking map (having to censor random sht bc this comment literally wasn't visible! fun!). having screaming matches with my parents, getting ignored by everyone I know on social media bc I was the girl who just wouldn't stfu about c*vid. I've lived in so many places all over the world accumulating many friends from many different walks of life, mostly progressive liberal/left-leaning. not a single one has reached out, not a single one liking my posts, it even got to the point where I would frequently change my pfp to the old transmission maps that reflected current reality and slowly one by one the likes eventually got to 0. the ONLY public outing I've been to since that time (including even going to the store, I eventually just ended up making only my bf do that) was the eras tour in my area and it was awful. I kept my flo mask on the entire time and was dehydrated and overwhelmed. the bf and I did neti pots and CPC mouthwash for a week after fully knowing the risk we put ourselves in. I literally have not been in public since, and recently the last friend I had on this earth scolded me for not going to her wedding even though I had told her that concert friggn knocked me out (I'm autistic and have POTS) for months and I just couldn't risk going on a plane, go to her mask less wedding, go on a plane AGAIN, and now another lifelong friendship gone. I feel so alone. solidarity homie. to anyone else reading this, put on an N95 or better in public. the p*ndemic is not over and you have been tricked. I wish more breadtubers would talk ab this too. or any popular leftist who claims to care about disability issues. it's not too late to change your habits. this article "Let Them Eat Plague" by Comrade Dremel from Unity-Struggle-Unity is the best I've found so far and basically explains everything.

I didn't ask but roramdin is uncool map pride is cooler🎉🎉🎉

Face melting power 😱

the roasts theyd have

Adding a dash of CJ the X would make a chemical explosion from the concoction of these intellectually fruitful fruits.

​@@cragnogfirst time watcher here! she immediately reminded me of CJ the X.

Ro, CJ, D’Angelo and Mia Cole would be a force too powerful to stop.

It's definitely non-consensual activities. Surprised it wasn't stated that it could be very well sex trafficking.

I didn't ask but roramdin is uncool map pride is cooler🎉🎉🎉

this is like somewhat off topic but I think at a certain point celebrities become brands is the one true answer to online queerbaiting discourse

good luck with ur assignment!!

Same. 💀

I second this!! Love Rose

Wait who's Nixon then?

omg

Is Billie Eilish Obama?

@@cremetangerine82 Beyoncé is Obama

Who’s Bernie.

Production of the generic just got reauthorized, so hopefully it'll be available soon.

​@@rahab2850Thank god, I've been using this timed-release alternative, and it just does not do the job as effectively. Thanks for the info!

I live in Belgium and my partner gets it. I should become an international drug dealer omg

yeah what’s with concerta prices rn, i’m in canada where i’m pretty sure we don’t have a shortage but the prices are still absolutely unhinged atm

Oh my god, I just looked up the price here (south Africa) and it comes to about $36 dollars a box. What is up with your health care system / pricing!?

was a huge swiftie since rep era, but i currently stopped liking her due to: • using a qwoc as a weapon to prove that she isn’t complicit with matty. • mostly blames criticisms on her on misogyny • bad blood lore. iyk the story behind BB, she legit made something out of nothing • yt feminism / fake feminism and before anyone says “u have a lana pfp u cant be talm” ME!, a qwoc here’s my take: the difference between lana and taylor’s problematic actions is that lana fr is just not very bright when it comes to social problems (that’s why i prefer celebs to not speak on something they’re not that much informed about, they’re entertainers, not activists) but taylor’s actions are very calculated which makes it worse to me. lana is j tone deaf af but i don’t think she does anything out of malice, now taylor… idk wtf her motive is atp. lana is fr tryna do good she’s just rlly bad at it. taylor is purposely not trying.

​@@glasstablegcrlsTaylor wants all the cookie points without alienating her still going conservative fanbase

@@lhvy5066from my experience it’s impossible to find a swiftie that isn’t racist

She does the Dolly thing. Never get ACTUALLY involved, say things like "I love everybody", then do a bunch of charity work. Never do or say anything to openly challenge anyone else's opinion. Edit: Then jump on whatever wagon makes you the most money.

@@glasstablegcrlsthat’s a crazy statement lmao.

Ilysm Kel ❤️❤️❤️

I’ve always wondered how long time fans feel about all of their history (I’m a fan of neither and just watching Ro lol). It’s obviously easier to ease out of a fandom if you’ve been in it longer. Thank you for your perspective🫶🏻

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She is pro-white/cishet/rich woman in the global north. So herself and her besties 😂

Is she pro-woman, or is she pro-woman where woman means her?

Taylor Swift has always left a bad taste in my mouth... I cant say why but after 'You need to calm down' there was a bunch of stuff about how she never let Queer people actually speak. It made me realise she was like the girls in my school that where all for queerness when that queer was a spectacle when it was the boys in drama sharing lipstick. But when I came out suddenly they didn't want to talk to me. She reminds me of the girls that would 'come out' for the clout, to go to Pride and where glitter and get drunk but not learn the actual history,,, quoting 'the first pride was a riot' and 'be gay do crime' whilst not actually doing anything about why those phrases are important. Now,,, I have since learnt that everyone's experience with the queer experience is different and how I interact with the community can be wildly different to other people, those girls were lovely people and we were teenagers experimenting.... It seems to me that Taylor Swift only looks at the surface level of everything and doesn't dive deep into any of it to learn why its important. And by not even admitting that it causes a large issue in her fanbase. Its the political cartoon where the centrist asks the leftist if a little murder is okay to appease the right . She would never say that publically... but privately who knows.

I didn’t have tickets to the eras tour but after she dated matty healy I stopped listening to her music. I was a newer fan (only started listening around Lover) and I didn’t know too much about her personal life or much about celebrities and pop in general but from what I learned, it was enough to make me uncomfortable supporting her.

This may be a hot take, but her feminism sometimes feels disingenuous. Some people seem to use feminism to not take accountability for some of their actions and to get the spotlight off themselves. Taylor is a victim of sexism no doubt but her feminism feels very vapid and just another way to market herself. She's never on the cutting edge of issues and waits until it becomes popular/accepted enough to talk about. She never takes political risks like other artists do. She follows what is popular at the time. Now that anti gay and trans rhetoric is making a comeback, she is staying quiet on the issue and I'm not surprised. Your story very much lines up with this pattern.

fr I was so relieved I thought that was going elsewhere and was about to turn into an ad read 💀

Right? A nice quinoa salad that you just made so it’s still a little warm with cucumbers and tomatoes and a vinaigrette I’m so hungry now

also it's probably a power trip for her, she knows she was gonna make her fans go insane online and she loves to see i

To me, it seems like she was forced to grow up in an industry from a very young age, and so she always craved attention or the feeling of being wanted (which is why she loves love so much) and also she had just gotten out of a 6 year relationship where the guy wanted to keep things very quiet and private and she wanted to be more (the star of stars) and since she was so like seculided in one relationship, she wanted to create scandal or attention or something when she was out of it, she wanted to feel that ‘high’ of the relationship, it is a very immature feeling, but it seems that she craves control. And she wants to ‘fix’ people so maybe that’s why she chose matty (plus they had many industry relations). It is a very immature feeling, but I don’t necessarily think she’s a bad person for it, I just think she has some personal issues she needs to resolve when it comes to her needs and attention-craving. It comes from growing up precocious, you feel like you had to mature so quickly that you act immature later on in life to make up for that (and I think this is related to some of the experiences she sings about in her earlier albums and she experienced in her early 20s and late teens)

Ugh seriously the quality is NO JOKE

stop studying and start going youtube mode

He also dated Halsey who is white passing but mixed

​@@alisonbender8575 Halsey is pretty much white tho. Her dad isn't a full black man either. He's mixed. So Halsey is like 80 percent white atleast

There's a lot of white supremacists who have sexual fetishes for women who are from ethnic groups they hate.

It was a satire podcast for one, so taking anything they said verbatim is a mistake and can’t be taken seriously. However due to all the hate and backlash taking it out of context and blowing it out of proportion, the hosts themselves made a video clarifying that they specifically made that part up and chose it as a joke because the name was catchy. This is all google-able and out there for anyone who actually cares rather than mindlessly adding to the flames.

​@@mystic7934I thought satire was supposed to be actually funny. How odd

I love your disclaimer that you're not ok. It's ok. We've all done stupid shit in our past. I hope you feel better soon.

@@chrisz7494 lol thank you youtube commenter! i may not be okay but i’m a lot okayer. hope you’re doing well too!

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@@ville__ Something is wrong with you

I mean, he did say, and I quote; "I personify the adolescent on a phone, speaking like I'm bigger than my body."🤷🏽‍♀️

I didn't ask but roramdin is uncool map pride is cooler🎉🎉🎉

same i replayed it like 6 times just now good shit

first off it was never confirmed they were dating the evidence was very lackluster. After all the stuff came out about matty healy it was quickly over if it was something in the first place. They dated supposedly for like two weeks. I understand exactly what you mean with the ice spice stuff and i can see why youu feel that way. Iwould like to let you know that ice spice asked for the collab she has been a fan for a very long time and so she asked her team and they made one. Also the timing does not line up it actually takes time to make a new song and for a song to be made and released with other songs and a music video in it a like months notice is not possible. I mean taylor and ice spice are friends and they clearly have a great time together and ice spice talks about how she can always talk to her and stuff that’s not something a person who was using you to look good would just do privately. Also for someone e her size she is one of the most in problematic celebs like she has had some stuff but they are always small and typically dumb.

@@Mariii_30111 I'll speak to the part of this I have experience with: I'm a musician who's been in-studio. If you have the resources and everyone knows what they're doing, it is possible to get a song out in a day. Especially since Ice Spice was brought onto an already existing song and Taylor is worth millions, they could have gotten the new version of "Karma" out in a week, tops. The music video I'll give you, though. With the amount of special effects, it would have probably taken at least a month, if not longer depending on how many editors her team hired. But all that being said, even if she didn't date him (for long), Taylor was still publicly associated with this man who stated he touched himself to videos of black women being brutalized, and yet she did not speak against him. Even if she's not condoning his behavior outright, her silence still speaks volumes. At least to me as someone who is black but light-skinned and white-passing, so I do know the effect that privilege gives... Maybe not the extent that Taylor enjoys privilege, but I do still know from experience. However, I also know that if I were in the same position and I said nothing, that would be extremely harmful to my family who are not white passing like me. I guess my point is: in my opinion, Taylor has too much privilege to stay silent and have that mean nothing. Her silence speaks volumes. I agree it's not "fair" to put that on any one individual, but unfortunately, it is still true.

i agree with a lot with what your saying but let’s not infantilize ice spice by saying she couldn’t have said no to taylor if she wanted to because like… she definitely could have. she has shown herself to be a smart and business savvy woman and acting like she was under taylor’s thumb for this collab is silly and condescending.

@@pinkmenace2452 I'm not trying to deny that Ice Spice is business savvy. But it's important to think about who's asking you for something. Coercion is a bitch. Ice Spice is new to the industry - compared to Taylor - and Taylor is one of the biggest artists of this generation. So let's say hypothetically - not that this was the case, but just imagine - she had wanted to say "no" to Taylor. I'm personally certain Ice Spice's team would have been vehemently against that. Let alone if Taylor wanted her, she could have done whatever she wanted to get her. Not saying she wanted to, but had Ice Spice wanted to say no, it would've become a huge issue for her. And that situation does not sit right with me. That's where the "icky feeling" comes from, and that's what I don't like. You don't have to agree, but Ice Spice was put between a rock and a hard place had she wanted to say "no." And a scenario like that does not sit right with me. You should be able to say no without consequences like that.

Yup! Here after TTPD

That's so fucked up omg

WHAT😪

@@gj5748 yea i looked up the story about kitty Catherine it’s so heart breaking.

@@Sthomp10 What happened to kitty Catherine ? I’ve tried to look up these stories to see if there’s go fund mes but there’s nothing to bring justice.

@@lovelylanafansweetie4240 I know it really sucks, but there are petitions out there to take this site down. Kitty had took her own life in 2019 two years after her appearance on the site.

Thank you my goat 😭❤️

that "celebrity" song was so so good

thought this said "widdlest" and was confused, but respected the boldness

Same. Though I often feel guilty listening to her work these days.. it's so complicated, I fear sooner or later I'm gonna get exhausted & stop listening to her altogether

@dr.k1012 okay but then like what major stars DONT you feel guilty about listening to? genuine question bc i’ve found pretty much all celebrities are associated with some pretty nasty people and almost all of their “activism” is shallow and only performative. not saying criticisms of taylor swift aren’t valid but i think they can be applied to most celebrities

@@pinkmenace2452 I mean you're completely right, it's just that this video is about Taylor Swift and I happen to be a big fan of her music, so that's the focus of the comment. At the end of the day every person on earth has and will do shitty stuff and be a hypocrite so it's really about like what your personal lines are for what is worth engaging with.

LMAOO NO CUZ SAME😭✋️

2 treats in one night! You are one lucky duck 🙈

@@doverfornow dinner and a show, what more could i want

@@juicebox1344 hobbits

bilbo, no!!!!

now this is, as the Millennials would say "a vibe mood frfr my dude yeet lmao xD"

@@Jane-oz7pp that is what they’d say! you’re so right!

Wait this is genuinely so interesting, I never see Taylor Swift wearing any designer clothing and you’re right, it’s different from typical fame appeal

I think it's her relatablity that people like about her, swifties seem to think that Taylor Swift's songs give a voice to their thoughts and feelings. I also don't get the appeal as I don't relate to her and her music doesn't connect with me but I imagine that instead of being an aspirational or exceptional figure for her fans , they project onto her.

This is such a great take. The fever around this tour really made me feel like I'm missing something. I have a hard time even seeing what Taylor's appeal is beyond being average, and while I can wrap my mind around that average-ness making her relatable and even likeable to her audience, I have trouble understanding how it inspires the level of rabid fandom she has.

@BrightAwake thanks! You know what else blew my mind? Someone said that the girls who liked her when they were teens all now have good corporate jobs and disposable income and are in their 30s. That explains why they're able and willing to pay these high prices. Not just that, they also all buy new outfits, makeup, for this correct etc so a lot of money goes into this experience overall.