People reacting to Taylor's lyrics from 2010: "Wow this is so problematic. Taylor is such a hypocrite for claiming to support women!" People reacting to Taylor's new lyrics in 2023: "Aw I miss the original lyrics. Political correctness has gone too far! I'm heartbroken that she changed it."
@@stephany6417 I'm referring to those who complained about the lyrics but are now saying, "OMG I miss the original! Why'd she change it? My childhood is ruined!" It's like, maybe it's because y'all complained your butts off about it before? Either way though, it's her song at the end of the day, and the original version still exists, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal for people. People can never just be happy though. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.
I just feel like there are worse songs in the world than better than revenge and those don’t get changed so why did she change hers. It was a different time and that was how she was feeling so why did she cover it up. And it’s a song I’ve really related to over the years
Exactly, We have people here in Jamaica who sing about women. Good in the sheets while men are good at working. Every song is only representing the singer themselves, how they feel and what they express. For me to see that the u.s literally whines about back in the day lyrics, It makes me feel bad for the actors and singers because they literally work their behinds off just to please people who are now seeing that they have control of everything, just because they watch it.😢
@@spiritualoutcast0 Americans even get mad when movies that are historical or take place in a certain time period or place don’t have a diverse cast. I’m like bruh, do you really expect filmmakers to rewrite history just so they can score diversity points?? I’ve even read a few comments about people complaining about how Downton Abbey is all white people and it’s crazy because how diverse do they think that the aristocracy in England was in the early 1900s?! Americans judge absolutely everything by modern standards and think everything is problematic.
I’m not sure I would consider reusing a cliche like “moth to the flame” and trying to rhyme “actress” with “matches” to be good songwriting, but it’s definitely not as problematic.
@@Andy-xx3ttyeah but even not a single one of their staff isn’t white and they had one single Irish dude and that’s not remotely accurate at all either so that’s they could have given some of those roles to even who’re people with thicker Irish and Scottish and welsh accents who don’t get as much work and potentially to people of colour but they gave them all to white people with mostly posh accents, like there were only a few working class English accents among the staff as it were.
I like these new lyrics! It doesn’t erase the role the other woman played in trying to entice her man away, but it gives him an equal role as the one who let himself be led astray. And like someone said the lines are more poetic :)
Yeah, that's a nice way to look at it. I also think it's cool when artists show how their work can always be in progress, even years later. It's never necessarily set in stone. I do hope this was an organic change on her part and not just her caving to pressure, though.
@@kellyriddell5014 or that complaints made her think about it and she genuinely realized she’d prefer an updated line. Hard to say of course! I agree with you :)
I just think she should have made them meaner in a less mature way. I understand why she changed them but “he was a moth to the flame she was holding the matches” just doesn’t fit as well in a song like this. Maybe add a lyric about wanting to set fire to their mattress or something
@@Givebackthescarf To risk sounding like a hipster, not all songs are made to just sound nice, they're also ment to be meaningful, and tell a story. And if you've ever read a story, then you'd know that not all of them have wholesome plots. In Taylor's one, her main character was promiscuous. Which is what she stated in those lyrics, that's not "slut shaming" there's a difference.
Honestly I didn’t even noticed the lyrical change cause they sound so similar to each other. But I do feel it has more pain to it with the new lyrics than a revenge song. 😊
I like the new version more, just like Taylor said a man can not be stolen from you if he isn't willing to be taken. And a girl can always try to flirt with a taken man but in the end it is him that decides if he wants to be unloyal and "stolen"
I mean, you are absolutely right, but i still think we shouldn’ t stop shaming those desonest men and women who hit on people who already are in relationships or even married. That needs to be adressed because that happens, unfortunetly a lot of women do it.
why are people in the comments acting like people MADE her change the lyrics when it’s obvious that she no longer likes lyrics and has thought that for a while 😭 especially with the amount of slut shaming she’s received throughout her career since
She changed then because of people pointing it out and because those same people were, are and always will shame her for nothing. I do hope she did it more because she wanted it and not because she wanted them to stop mentioning it.
@@LifeInPink999 well shes always been outspoken and stuck to what she believes, thats why her music is so attractive to people bc she writes what she thinks. If its any comfort im p sure she truly feels this way bc she has said lots of things w the same sentiments as she grew
@@user-uc2yj2zf5f I, as a writer, prefer to think she's revising as only this opportunity to take back her work allows. Rewriting doesn't erase what's gone before, but shows where she has changed her mind.
@@user-uc2yj2zf5f I disagree. I see it as her having a staircase moment and saying what she would've/could've/should've said back then, and given the wisdom of years, saying it differently. Maybe the first version is the diary entry and the new version is the short story she wrote about how someone smarter, kinder, wiser would say it. Both pieces still exist. One may inform the other.
Yeah! I havent listened to either versions but ive interpretted this little blurb as taylor telling her teenage self that it wasnt her fault he left her for another woman, that although she held the matches, he was the one who made the choice
Don't know how unpopular this opinion will be since I too haven't heard any of either song till now, but I don't even see the problem with the first version.
Yes I think it fits the song just as much as the old one, while adding a new meaning and showing us just how controlling she was and Taylor was never going to get him back
@@zacharyradford5552I think she wouldn’t have fun performing this song live today with the old lyrics. Especially after all she’s been through and all the media slander she’s received for her dating life throughout the years. Lots of people talk about Taylor in the way that Taylor talked about the other girl in that song. She probably just doesn’t like the lyric anymore.
@@zacharyradford5552if it was only to please other people she would’ve changed it over a decade ago. Doing it now while re-recording is because she’s grown as a person.
@TheReveSwift i clicked on your channel and read the description and wowza twinsies ! i’ve had the same thing written on my page for 3 years now. taylor is the industry indeed
Well, same thing happened to Paramore about misery business. For a while Haley didn’t want to perform the song, then she changed the overall meaning of the song by telling her audiences how she sees the song in anew evolved meaning.. I can’t explain well enough. Lol anyways Haley and Taylor are close friends so they probably chatted about it.
I always see Better Than Revenge and Misery Business as the two girls singing their own perspectives. Both girls can be mean but they also grow and learn. Especially as the lyrics and meanings change over time.
People nowadays wanna pretend they’ve never called another girl a hoe because she was the one her man cheated with. This high and mighty culture is ridiculous. It’s ok to be angry at someone when they purposely slept with your man knowing he was with you. Is it her fault? No! It’s still 100% the man’s responsibility to not cheat, but it also doesn’t take much to not wanna hurt another girl just cause you don’t know her and not having that common courtesy is selfish and doesn’t speak well of a person. I like both lyrics tho.
I still like the original better😭 it’s one of my fav songs by her Edit: guys I never said I didn’t like the new version I just prefer the older version better 😑
Nu uh. I like the new version better. It speaks for her maturity, her skill as a poet and her her consideration for the fans. How shallow could one be to ridicule a person for being good at sex.
i think you can like either version 💀 ppl keep arguing abt it but at the end of the day it’s one line in a song- and considering she no longer thinks that way 🤷🏻♀️ what can ya do. ofc swifties who have been around longer are gonna prefer to older version, and thats okay. who knows the new one might grow on them- or not and again that’s fine
@@lavenderbutterflytv13I can’t lie I like the original still also because the vocals are angrier on it too that’s part of what I still like in some of them I think listening to a few of the originals isn’t the worst thing😊
Honestly I like both versions but I love how Taylor does anything and everything for her fans Edit: I literally haven’t ever gotten over three like’s before!! Tysm for 272 💗💗💗
Honestly I’m happy with the lyric change. I think this new version of the album is to help her so how she’s grown and while the old lyric was good it wasn’t mature and this new lyric is mature. I also think Taylor strives for no slut shaming because she went through that and that promoted slut shaming. I think the new lyric is also very clever and I love the use of figurative language and it’s just so beautiful and poetic.
I know no one can 'steal' a man but people who knowingly inserted themselves to be a third party still deserved to be pointed at. So I don't think the lyrics were problematic and I do admit that I liked the old lyrics more as it fits better to the overall lyrics of the whole song and it's the one that stuck in my head, though I'm not saying the new ones were bad. (I know there's a specific person about this song but I'm mainly talking about the theme of the song itself. And yeah, I don't really know the background story.)
As someone that got stuck in a 2-day-confusing situation with a guy that I was in love with for years, I can assure you that you do not have to worry about the other party receiving enough hate. You get a lot more than just pointed at, even for small situations. The guy I loved called me over (I had to be persuaded, because he had a gf that I did not want to upset by visiting) and he admitted he wanted to break up with his current gf of 2 months that initially wanted him as a rebound, but (after they continued to fight) simply did not want to be put to the side and refused to accept his idea to break up. This made the sob panic and he called me over and admitted he liked me. I cried and huggdd him and we kissed, twice. He was and probably still is the worst kisser in the world, nevertheless, I was on cloud 9. I tried my best to keep things civil (I kissed him twice, but insisted on everyone having clarity and knowing what was up before moving onto other things) while the (stupid of me not to notice, but I was young and it was my first relationship) guy used me as a blame-crutch to break up with her, sending her a picture of us kissing and making me open the front door, when he knew she was coming over to have a chat with him. I was polite and friendly this whole time, only half-understanding the breakup-tricks I was being used for and continously reminding him to make this as clean and quick as possible. Let us just say that, in the end, he got a tweet in which she called him an asshole and I got several death-threats at my door, including my sister and family, violent baseballbat-with-nails and "let us decorate the floor with her teeth and beat her up until her parents don't recognize her anymore" which continued for a year. Not to mention all the people that I thpught were friends, but then shunned me and shamed me. He was just "a lucky bastard" and I was seen as a horrible snake. I stayed with him for much too long, a relationship involving alcoholism, abuse, lots of cheating (ofcourse, what did I expect) and so on. Believe me, the other man/woman is already receiving enough, and will be receiving more hatred and shunning whenever the situation comes up in conversation again.
The third party is pointed at in the new ones! It says he was a moth to the flame and /she/ held the matches, so both of them were getting the blame for it instead of just the woman
I was singing along too better than revenge Taylor's version. And I stopped in the middle of singing when I heard that part with utter confusion across my face. XD
I love this song so much and It’s sad that she was getting backlash for the old lyrics when other people write things wayyy worse and people don’t react. Everyone jokes about how feminism can wait until the song is over because it’s truly a masterpiece. I can say that I’m proud of Taylor for owning up for her actions and changing the lyrics but it’s sad because I love the old lyrics so much.
Because contrary to what you may feel or believe even Taylor can receive some constructive criticism. Why is it bad that she was encouraged to change it a lil bit bc being able to say that even tho in the past she did somethings that weren't all too great she eventually found herself being a girls girl and that's really a that matters. She's not always the victim you know
Why even bring up and compare two different artists and songs first off? Taylor is big girl and contrary to what you may believe she like anyone else can receive constructive criticism and she decided to take the advice. She did say something's that were very pick me in the past but she grew and grew and eventually became a girls girl! She's a human she makes mistakes and holding herself accountable and changing for the better is honestly some goof that comes from a Lil back lash
The reason why people react more to Taylor is because she’s a feminist, which means when she does something that doesn’t fit a feminist view then people start raising red flags. Sad for her and sad for her audience since when you’re in a marginalized group and a celebrity or figure of some kind makes themselves out to be a figure you can trust and then does something problematic, it makes it hard to trust them again.
I agree that when it comes to cheating we shouldn't go directly for the other woman before or without holding the man accountable, but I feel like the original version captured the anger and the venomous response most women feel when they're cheated on. The new version feels more poetic, but the old version feels instinctive. For people to say that is anti-feminist is ridiculous. So, are we not allowed to blame the other woman whatsoever, even if she played a hand in it, simply because it's wrong for a woman to shame another woman? The first woman to shame another in that situation is the one that slept with the other's boyfriend. That's anti-feminist.
I just sing the mattress line out of habit lol I can’t get myself to change it (I honestly have no idea how she broke that after so many years of singing it one way)
I love both versions. The old version showcases more naivety as a young broken hearted girl spilling her heart out with glitter ink in her diary. The new one is more grown up, understanding how cheaters work and that the blame is not only on the “other woman” but mainly on the man. I like to sing both versions, using the old version for the first chorus and ending it with the new one at the end of the song 🥂💜
That was my favorite part bc it is a realistic problem in society , a man can’t be “stolen”but they can definitely be enticed by sexual pleasures of their flesh . It happens more often than is talked about lyrically . I liked the brutal honesty of it
I’m with you; it was raw and gritty. But whatever, she can do her. I think it’s weird how people wanna go back and change movies and songs to be acceptable by todays standards overall though and that’s just my opinion. Like it’s history, just her saying she doesn’t condone saying things like that is enough for me to respect her growth. Then again this is my thoughts after just thinking about this for one minute.
@@silva-hg3rtNot for dating a guy, but for explicitly going after a person she knew is already in a relationship. There are people who have a lot of fun pursuing married or taken people, and they should be accountable for their actions too. If somebody goes around purposely flirting with anybody married, they're just as low as the cheater and I wish it happens to their next relationship too.
Because people were upset about the lyrics, they forgot it's a revenge song, it's SUPPOSED to shame and insult the person it was written against. Especially that apparently the girl knew they were dating and still pursued him, it's just as low as the cheater himself.
@@Paula-um3js you don't know if the girl flirted with joe. joe broke up with taylor for the girl, it was his choice. we don't even know if the girl made the first move. the girl who the song is about (camilla) has a niece and on tiktok the niece said that the whole situation was that joe left taylor for camilla. he didn't cheat. also comparing joe and taylor to a married couple makes no sense, they dated for like a month. and you're whole reply makes NO SENSE because it wasn't said ANYWHERE that camilla flirted with joe, joe chose to leave taylor then started dating camilla, taylor got mad a wrote better than revenge because she was mad that camilla was dating her ex. thus proves my point, the lyric slut shamed camilla for dating a guy
People change. I was raised as a fundamental evangelical Christian who, at 18, said out loud that I didn’t think women should be allowed in the work place. I’m 28 now and I’ve deconstructed to the point of atheism and feminism. Seriously: people change, give others the chance to make mistakes and grow
Saying a woman is manipulative and fake when she is isn't misogyny, It's the truth, We don't call it misandry when we call out a man for being fake, So why with women It's apparently misogyny?
@@Xoxo_Ana it's heartbreaking for Op cuz it's their fav song Imagine you have a fav song/book/movie and it gets recorded/rewritten/remade and has a major change that you *dislike* and would rather not have cuz you want stuff to follow the original, you'd be disheartened too People are allowed to feel things yk? And that goes for both you and op and others who like/dislike the change
The new lyric is so much better. It holds both parties accountable and is a much more mature lyric. People can like the old one, but Taylor seems to like the new lyrics so I don't think our opinions matter.
The first one definitely flows better and has the anger to it followed by a betrayal, but the new one is more enlightening and mature. She’s right about that: No one can “steal” your boyfriend.
i appreciate her awareness to the situation but tbh i feel like the lyrics were barely misogynistic. the new lyrics are very good but i do prefer to the old ones. :)
Honestly, I feel like the new lyrics are just as misogynistic. It implies that the man had no control in the situation, that the woman lured him. Still in line with the idea that the woman can steal the passive man away. Maybe a bit less slut-shamey, but still misogyny. It doesn't really matter anyways, I love Taylor and both versions of the song lol.
I'm honestly so glad she changed these lyrics. I feel like I can enjoy the song whole heartedly now. The old lyric wasn't problematic by todays standards, it's just problematic and I'm proud of her for changing it.
It’s ironic how Taylor talks about owning her work but can’t own what she puts out and changes it because of criticism. Kinda ruin's the whole point of rerecording it if she changes the song she didn't really owned up to the original
I edit my past work too. When you look at your work from back when you were immature, you'll see how cringey you are you'd do what taylor did too. She had the opportunity to improve it and she did.
You realize people can grow and realize that some things aren't great, right? Especially since Taylor was also ridiculed for her sexual habits so I doubt her having a song ridiculing someone else for it doesn't feel good.
I like both, i think a mashup of both would be awesome like in the first couple of choruses be the original then the last the new ones so its like a story of first blaming the "seductress" than realizing that he willing chose the other girl.
Feminism doesn't mesn fhat you can't hate other women. But the lyric change honestly is satisfying it makes it from calling the other woman a slut to a manipulator, which is more compelling to me
i was singing along to it and when i got to the part where she changed it, i was like “wth is this?” everyone has their own opinions, but i’ll stick with the original version but listen to the rest of the album
I’m honestly so glad she did change this, even though the old one sounded better, it’s not okay to shame someone for their “sexual habits” or whatever you wanna call it
@@mo.ka.9661You can't "steal" someone else's man. Even Taylor acknowleded that that is something teenagers think/believe. Your man can *leave* you, and he can leave you for someone else, and he can even cheat on you, but no matter what, that "other person" *never* promised you their commitment and exclusivity. If "your" man can be "stolen" (he can't) he already decided to stop being yours.
It was a revenge song, it was SUPPOSED to shame and ridicule the person it was written against. At least it did the job. Plus knowing somebody is in a relationship and still pursuing it isn't a good "sexual habit" anyway. Had a friend who would specifically go for married men, like every her target was already married or in a relationship, and you'll still excuse her because it's only the guys fault for falling in? She wouldn't enjoy it being done to her own relationship, then why do it to another person and laugh together behind their spouse's back?
I see why you could call it slut shaming but I don’t get why it’s mysoginistic. But also people do sleep around and seduce people so I don’t see the problem at all
Ya i feel like its messing with history somehow too. Its like crossing out a sentence in a years old journal and writing in something else instead. I dont think it changes much about the song and I dont think it was misogynistic either 🤷♀️
I think it's fine that she made the change in the new version -- both versions exist, people can take the time to look at both of them and compare and take the context of dates when they were published into consideration when listening to them
@@scenepunk09it’s definitely not messing with history. You can feel however you want, (I like the new lyrics better) but the old version is available. If you want to listen to it you can. Erasing history would be pretending the first version never existed, which is clearly not happening
Apparently, lots of people. Enough to inspire her to get more creative. Which she did. The new lyrics are amazing and don't at all kill the vibe of the song, and this is coming from a huge fan since debut.
I like the original better but considering the song was specifically targeting Camilla Belle it makes sense why she would feel the need to change it. All the songs about her past boyfriends are about her own feelings whereas Better than Revenge was just about Camilla.
I like the new lyrics SO MUCH more. Yes I’m used to and slightly miss the old version but the new lyrics make more sense. They put more of the blame on the man in the situation instead of the woman. It still sounds good so I don’t really mind, I’m glad that she did it.
I think I like the old lyrics better, because I just really enjoy the time capsule nature of songs 😊 The way I viewed the world at 15 was so different from how I saw it at 21 or 30. Since I'm from her generation, listening to her old songs is a bit like time travel - I get to re-experience what I felt like at 18 when I sang my heart out to these songs. To me, my own growth is visible by looking at the lyrics and seeing how different I feel now about many topics. But I guess to her, a sign of her growth is to say, I don't want to see the old version anymore, because I've changed. Well, everyone has their own way of dealing with such things and if that's her preference, good for her :) I can just listen to the old version instead if I want to after all!
stop complaining and crying about the lyric change guys. it's so immature and embarrassing to say that you'll stream the original version or that this version is bad. this lyric change shows that she has grown over the years and realises that slut shaming someone isn't right. tbh, the whole song is blaming the girl for "stealing" the guy and it's not just one lyric. but that was the most problematic lyric so she realised it and changed it. that's called maturity. so please support the new version and stop being so salty about it. and tbh, the new lyric is much more poetic and well written
IDC what she does with the song but it's just ridiculous that people are still complaining about one line in a song being "Misogynistic". It's just simply not. It's not just the mans fault, women aren't always so innocent. Misery Business by Paramore is still one of their most loved songs that everyone knows, and that entire song is calling a girl out for being a "whore" but no one is crying and calling it misogynistic. Taylor's song was originally just more relatable with the original lyric. I personally had an experience in high school with a girl who I was close friends with that "stole" every guy that I was talking to. They left me for her because she was offering sex. No it wasn't just her fault obviously, but she knew what she was doing.
@@KrissyKayyy Sorry, I'm not trying to say she never got hate. I don't think she should get hate. I'm just trying to say that it is ridiculous to give these people hate. And I know some artist get more hate about certain things that others do. Whenever these artist say how they feel about a situation that happened to them, it's twisted to make them seem wrong. Just like the eating disorder scale scene in her Anti-hero MV. People were upset about her expressing how she personally feels about herself, and she was pressured to delete it to make other people feel better. Artists deserve to be able to express themselves just like the normal everyday people do, without getting so much hate.
@@SJ-xs5oh Honestly I agree. I feel like in Taylor’s case, she only got hate because she called herself a feminist. People need to realize that she was still a kid when she wrote it so she obviously wasn’t as mature and understanding as she is now
