That could be a long list. :) A tc electronic 1210 would be cool (though I do actually prefer the 2290 for chorusing). A Lexicon PCM-style reverb unit would be awesome (with processor power these days, they could probably do all the algorithms from the 41 to the 960 in one pedal). A Yamaha SPX unit would also be cool. How about the MXR Model 126 Flanger Doubler? The Scholz Rockman rack units as pedals would also be cool too. Okay, I'll stop now. :)
Deep modulation was also available in the original 2290. There was a RAM option and a fast trigger option available. One of these added the deep modulation option with an EPROM Firmware update.
Alex Lifeson has used three 2290 racks in his rig forever. When I think of the sound of a guitar, I hear Alex playing and what I hear in my head includes the 2290.
The Basic Delay is already very nice and spacious. It seems that there is already a delay of a few ms between left and right channels and also a phase rotation. Like the spatial effect on D-Two. Great video!
Hooked - will order one tonight. I have been waiting for that. Used the plugin for recording for a while and had hoped that I can take that out at some point. Now I finally can. What finally won me over was your comparison to the rack at the end.
I received the pedal and used it at my gig last night. I totally bonded with it. Best delay pedal I have ever used. Now they just need to put out the 1210 pedal!
Incredible palate of sound mate..after hearing this lupin wants one of his very own to start playing guitar... Cant believe tc just came up with this idea.you definitely got my super sounding stamp of approval Leon.. this is for sure a two cigar smokin machine
I was waiting for your review and your thoughts since you own the original and have done demo's of it, I was hoping TC would do this and I bought one as soon as it was announced and I love it, great review thanks Leon.
Awesome walkthrough - stellar playing as always. Factory preset 2A (Shreddar Cheez) is made by yours truly🤟🏼 Glad you enjoy the pedal. Cheers from Denmark🍻
In case you ever wonder if your demo videos have any influence on people when they are shopping for gear, let me assure you that they do. I did buy this pedal based mostly on what I heard in this video, and just purchased my second one. The sounds are as you would say...GLORIOUS! (That includes the SCF in front of these for the width). Thanks again mate, you ROCK!
@@LeonTodd Why not? I figure I'll run the SCF for the stereo wide, then the 2290s in series after that. The first 2290 will give me all the chorus and flange effects, then go into the second one for the delays and panning. This will work with my MP-1s. With my MP-1 Classics and MP-2s, I'll remove the SCF since these both have stereo effects loops, and set the chorus in both for wide, with no rate and adjust the depth. In theory, it should sound killer!
Great sounding delay and has a lot of versatility. A little too much menu paralysis for your average guitar player. I like simpler stuff with knobs. I'm using the flashback X4. It has a 2290 with modulation on it which gives me the vibe of this pedal but it doesn't get close to all the versatility. But I can get most of the metal and rock delay tones that I need Plus I pair it with a UA Astra. At some point I'll get the Starlight. My drummer works at UA. Great video as always You're playing as phenomenal. Very good demo It's obvious you've had the original and you worked this new one flawlessly. Your video on this is the best one out there I have seen a couple. Thanks again and have a great weekend 🔥🤘
Happy new year man! Great video, maybe the machine is a little complicated, but it is very powerful..i heard amazing sounds in this video. Huge lead sounds.
@@LeonTodd Right!!, I'm really liking mine. Having the Timeline, Future Factory and the SDE EVH Delay the 2290p has given me a completely different way to approach delays and other time-based effects. More is More!!
In my opinion, this new version of the TC Electronic 2290P sounds as good if not better than the old version in the rack. However, technological progress does its job :)
Can hardly tell the difference between rack and pedal Leon, with OD, tiny, bit more top with the pedal, very good price for this unit in the UK, thought it would be more for all the features. 😁👍🎸🔊
The pedal is very close but the rack is still the king imho. The resolution and articulation of the rack seem a bit better in the test at the end. There is a bit of magic in those old 2290 units which is why they still command so much money.
The DSP engineer Asger Lundsgaard Hansen and the rest of the tc electronic product development team knocked this one out of the park for us! If you're reading this and work for tc electronic, and helped to develop this pedal, congratulations on the remarkable work. Fabulous sounding pedal demo Leon. This is my personal favorite video of yours yet, except for perhaps the ones of you and Troy sharing secrets and truths from down under! The pure clean comparison at the end is where the main differences can be marked. The rack unit is brighter with a sharper/harsher attack. The spaciousness and dimension of the pedal is remarkably close to the rack unit and in some ways, the smoother response and expanded filter possibilities of the pedal add versatility. If one were trying to sound exactly like The Edge, I do believe they would need the rack unit to get the exact percussive attack. I personally prefer the pedal now because of how it integrates with my other pedals on a board setup and with the stereo input, I can use it in ways that I could never use the rack unit. It's got a super wide stereo image which can be really great bonus at the end of a stereo pedal chain. I'm putting in a request for a video where you compare the 2290 P to the Strymon DIG, Fractal 2290 modeling, Eventide H90 Vintage Digital Delay, Boss SDE-3000D, in addition to any other digital delays of repute you may have lingering in the wings.
Thanks again for a great in depth overview. I think I’ll put this on my long term list. I’m a sucker for delays and although I’d like to have this at some point it’s just not a priority right now
I never owned a 2290, but I did play through them in a studio several times. This pedal makes me want to get one and try it out in my W/D/W rig. I think an interesting comparison would be to put this pedal against the Roland SDE3000EVH pedal and see how they compare in terms of tone, performance and ease of use.
They both did a pretty bang on job of recreating the workflow of the originals. The BOSS expands on the original by turning it into a true dual delay, which I wouldn't have minded with this. 2290 Chorus and delay from the one unit would have been awesome!
I have both and the SDE EVH pedal is an amazing dual delay platform where the 2290p is a single delay with more panning and modulation options. The other differences are the SDE EVH has more Routing Options and the Noise Suppression Circuit. I love both formats for obvious reasons and would hate to have to choose between them as only having one delay which is why I have 4 delays on my board. The others are a Strymon Timeline and a Free the Tone Future Factory that Uncle Leon mentioned in this Vid!!
@@LeonTodd Thanks Leon! That's very helpful. The TC 2290 had the most pristine sounds as I remember it from the studio sessions I did with it. I never used the chorus in it as I recall because they also had the TC 1210 when I wanted to put some chorus on my guitar. That was another fantastic rack processor for chorus and flange back then. I do agree though, it would have been awesome to have dual delays in this one pedal.
@@MrSpike7590 Thank you for the feedback! Personally, I wouldn't have any use for four delays in my rigs, but a dual delay for stereo effects would be ideal for me. As I mentioned to Leon, the 2290 had the most pristine effect on the original sound of any delay I've ever used, because all the others, including the Roland delays, did color the sound to some degree. Playing a stereo rig has been a lot of fun for me for several decades now, but I'm really liking the center channel with no effects at all these days. It just sounds better to my ears now overall. So, it comes down to this; Boss SDE, or two 2290 pedals? Hmmm.
Great demo as always. From your clips at the end, the rack does seem to still impart a little more dimension to the sound, but there are definite similarities to be sure - perhaps it was the vintage crustiness. ;) I may have misunderstood a couple of things, so please correct me if I am wrong: You mentioned that the rack could not do deep modulation. It can. Not as obviously or as easily, however. You have to enable it via spec no 103. Of course, your comment could still be correct in that the pedal still might be "deeper". The other comment that I may have misunderstood was regarding tap tempo. The Learn button on the rack is effectively a tap tempo, albeit not on a pedal (although tc electronic did have the 0144 foot controller for the 2290 which did offer learn buttons). Other than that, I thoroughly enjoyed your demo and review.
Ah yep you're right about the "deep" mod mode being one of the many "secret features" of the 2290. Time for me to re-read the manual! Regarding tap tempo, I should have clarified that there's a dedicated set of rhythmic subdvisions.
@@LeonTodd, Yeah, dedicated rhythmic subdivisions were not a thing back then. But, we did manage to tweak the delay time until we got it to sound right. :)
Trying to catch up on your vids. This thing already sounds outstanding and sounds like the rack unit you've demo'd before! Very cool brother. Man, that DGT sounds so good!!!. I'm rocking the wheelchair my friend. Just two months and two weeks left in the machine.. 😂 Be safe and well sir... Tim...
Leon! Always with killer demos and play-thrus! Now that you've probably had a good bit of time with this and the Boss SDD, which do you think is the best bet? As far as tones (the best part), features and such?
Where's that riff at 2:32 coming from? I think I've heard it and I recognize it but I don't remember who's been played by... Or am I wrong and it was just an impro? What a sound tho. \m/
I guess it is it's built in overdrive distortions along with all the delays chorus modulations so you don't have to rig up separate pedals for overdrives I'm presuming
Rack / pedal is a bit night n day on the clean. I think the dirt tones hide it a bit, but there is some more dynamics on the top, some sparkle in the rack. I would be curious to see if a dynamic eq on the high mids set to expander might get you 99% of the way there. Spiff or FabQ3. Otherwise, a pedal 2290 is worth 4 on the floor . Was signal chain straight insert or gtr -> pedal > axe fx?
I too am wondering this since The Edge did replace his 2290s with the Axe FX and Bradshaw said they couldn’t tell the difference. I can’t wait for that comparison video Leon! 😜
Great job, Leon. Very inspiring device and playing. At the end you mentioned some pedals that have similar functions. For those of us wedded to our computers, do you know of any apps or software packages that bring similar sounds inside-the-box? Thank you for all you do, and g'day.
I remember LUSTING for anything TC Electronic.....pedal, rack....back in '89 I picked up the wonderful TC Chorus pedal...never cared about any other chorus after that. At the same time I got the TC Sustain-Parametric Pedal, and never needed or wanted any other compressor...that was back in the day when TC was still based in Denmark.....now that it's owned by Behringer(sp?), I hope the quality is still high......I wish they would reissue the whole line of TC's pedals....maybe make a smaller pedal size delay....something more straightforward and simple......
The rack demo samples definitely sound brighter than the comparative pedal samples. Are there any input variations or setting differences that might explain / counter this anomaly ?
Hello there! Thanks for tuning in. Some of the best coffee I have ever had was when I visited Bear Pond Espresso in Tokyo. Fond memories and I hope to return soon!
Hi,Leon,very nice demo!thanks. I want "VS demo"with timeline. I'm interested in your feeling about timeline and 2290. I love your riff of heaven above. Whenever I grab my guitar, I play it every times. anyway, No one show me enough demo about this pedal which is playing with heavy drive lead sound and delay on RU-vid but you did it. I want to scream "nice work!!" to you.
@@LeonTodd Thanks,Leon.Please take it eazy if you don't have timeline now. bytheway,About rack and pedal, rack had more clear presence,I felt. Though these differences are very small. I just wait your new clips!I'm rooting for you!
I just got the EVH SDE3000,and I have an AxeFXIII,so I need another delay like I need a hole in the head,but it’s a 2290!!…back in the 80’s a 2290 was my dream piece of gear…I thought the pedal held up well against the rack…Close enough for Rock and Roll..
Some incorrect info here. The DEEP MODULATION is an original feature of the rack unit. Fron OS V28.xx TC implemented a deeper modulation ratio as requested by many users; the original ratio was very gentle and didn't allow for the type of modulation guitarists were going for in the '80s. And no... modern technology is not really making the modulation depth better or more advanced. It's actually the opposite. Old delays used sample rate modulation so an ANALOG oscillator (LFO) would change the microvoltage of the converters to shift the sample rate. That was causing the detuning efx. Some delays can get extremely wild at that, namely the Lexicon PCM42. You can't do this with current algorithmic tech... so modulation doesn't sound as deep as back then.
@@jupjuck And it's better be like that! For a new product claiming to be the same as one of the most important and unique delays ever made. Analog technology in early digital audio is not a minor detail. It's actually the main reason why those wonders have that kind of sound you can't get from current tech.
Great video - I always wanted a 2290 back in the day, but they were simply too expensive… and now they are just too old and unreliable. I know I’m probably the odd man out here… but why not release this thing as a rack unit as well? I’d grab one!
There's quite a few companies reissuing their own or other rack classics - BOSS DC-2w and SDE-3000, Eventide Micropitch/Tricerachorus/Blackhole, UA Golden (Lexicon 224 model) and TC with this
If you want the closest thing you can get to the real 2290 as a pedal, get this. If you want something that takes that template but changes it up a little and can do dual delays, FF
Different animals - the SDE is a dual delay so you can do some interesting spatial and rhythmic things with it, whereas this is more of a modern recreation of the old rack.
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The 2290P sounds incredible, but in my opinion it very badly needs an INSTRUCTION MANUAL ! It's so darn complex and non-intuitive. And the need to press Preset every time you want to turn the knob to select another preset. Ridiculous.
You can move one preset up or down by pressing two footswitches at the same time. That said, I do agree that the manual that says this is too short to make someone able to release the pedals full potential.
