All the human emotions are encapsulated and enshrined in this great work... The turbulence of human emotions and their resolutions, all were masterfully described and expressed through musical notes... It is an amazement that never ends... ♥ ♥ ♥
Lord, the anguish in this music is absolutely genuine, some of the most intense musical statements ever written. It is said he wrote this symphony as an autobiography of his life, his loves, his triumphs, his losses & his death. He wrote the music, put everything of himself & his soul into it and prepared to die, which he did 9 days later. Everytime it's played he lives once more, freed from the torture of his human life. I can't help but cry. What an amazing sad genius he was :(
I listened to a recording of this every day for months as a teenager... wish I still knew who recorded "my" version. Fifteen years later, I can still hear every note.
@ASAngelo I don't know what to say to that other than thank you! This immortal work by Tschaikowsky has been close to my heart since childhood. It reawakens dreams for me, certain heartaches too. Have you noticed the opening measures are much the same as those of Beethoven's Sonate Pathetique - Beethoven's rhythm is dotted, Tschaikowsky's is even. I think Tschaikowsky is the greatest melodist of all, really......
Yuri TEMIRKANOV est aussi un de mes chef d'orchestre préféré : c'est net, bien ciselé, et mené d'une baguette forte, puissante et tout en nuances. C'est magnifique !
@kitchenqueen70 No, but many music scholars agree that it does seem eerie considering the circumstances that he died only a few days after the premiere of this symphony. Basically, they (as well as I) believe that Tchaikovsky may have very well written his very own requiem without even realizing it. Maybe he did. Who knows? I agree with @TallisTriptych. This is Tchaikovsky crying from the depths of his despair. I also agree that it's the most personal thing he's ever done.
He reminds me of Abbado when the latter conducted the BPO. A director of a play draws his vision on a stage. A conductor says, 'Come with me on this exciting journey! Trust me!' What a wonderful example in this video.
@luridplanet Isn't it funny, but I find the coughs and the pops to be so crucial in enjoying individual arangements of music... Even the clicking and fingering of the keys is beautiful, I love it all.
I write letters to Pyotr in my diary. He has been my hero and friend since my father introduced us (his music) when I was 3 yrs. old. He seems to be the only soul that understands mine.
@mightyquincy109 The genius of a conductor does not come from watching how they conduct, but what they do in rehearsals. We the audience only see a very small percentage of the effort that goes into performing a behemoth of a piece like this at such a high level.
I haven't listened to much of this, but if you knew about Tchaikovsky's life, and of his "anguish" (my professor's word :-D) then an aggressive performance of this works makes a lot of sense. Just some food for thought!
My father told me once, about the Adagio Lamentoso... "A man who wrote such a masterpiece made it only inspired by God"....Now, i believe so. I agree entirely with thesilvershining.
@thebadbrown The conductor doesn't intentionally put on a show. Often you will find in comparison to a rehearsal, interpretation will vary during a live performance. Which can be very understandable, depending on the conductors emotional attachment to the piece. When your sympathetic nervous system is pumping your brain with neurotransmitters, you will not act or feel the same way you would normally. Therefore, a conductors interpretation of a piece can easily change during a performance.
part of the conductor's job is to aid with interpretation. he is obviously highly valued for his ideas on how the music should be performed. don't be ignorant of this fact.
@Aaron741963 and to add to that, as far as I understand, what the conductor is doing on stage is just reinforcing the part by part explanation of what he wanted from the orchestra during a rehearsal before the performance anyway. It's just a show the conductor is putting on.
It's not the conductors technique that really matters. It's the conductors job to be the communication between the audience and the composer. It's the conductors interpretation that earns them their fame and glory. If you look at some of the greatest conductors you'll see that a LOT of them don't have the best conducting technique(i.e. Herbert Von Karajan, Furtwangler, Toscanini, etc.).
When I have the time, I turn this up loud on my speakers, I stand in the middle of my room, I pretend to be conducting the orchestra. It's like I'm drowning in pure emotion.
@mightyquincy109 One of the principle roles of the conductor is to set the tempo -- a very important role. The swinging of the arms is a function of that role. And the quality of the performance is a reflection of the conductor who prepared the orchestra for this performance via rehearsal work -- another extremely important role. So I will not complain about conductors if the music is well performed, as it is here.
His last composition - such a tragical. ბორჯომიდან წამოსვლის შემდეგ წერა: „ჩემი აზით, ეს არის ერთ-ერთი ყველაზე ლამაზი ადგილი მსოფლიოში“ / after leaving Georgia (Saqartvelo), Tchaikovsky said: "Georgia is one of the most beautiful place on this world".
@toscaninizt For the record, the people in orchestras don't get paid large sums of money at all. On the contrary, many teach as a way of earning a 'more suitable' amount of income. But I do agree with the rest of your comment.
The deciding factor in almost all theories point to the potentiality of his homosexuality being made public. Homosexuality was not a crime in Russia, and in fact there were many famous Russians of that time that were not only gay, but publicly suspected of being so, but when suspicion becomes confirmed fact or scandal in any society, it changes the playing field. Tchaikovsky was extraordinarily sensitive and emotional, and the inevitable shame and humiliation was, it seems, too high a price.
@mightyquincy109 (continued) The challenge for the conductor is to find new ways of interpreting music that has been played countless times, which is why the rehearsal is so important to finding a conductor's true genius. It's obvious this man is one, just close your eyes and listen...
@TheCriticAceEvans Yeah... If anything, there were some SERIOUSLY intense feelings of despair and depression Tchaikovsky must have felt, for various reasons-emotional, spiritual, physical/mental/psychological, loneliness, etc. He must have felt such intense feelings of hopelessness as to just take the "plunge"...
Perhaps this is why we should keep music in the public schools, and not allow music education programs to cut? There are hundreds of thousands of dedicated music educators out there, who want nothing more than to teach young musicians...and this teaching helps these students in every other aspect of their education, and yet it's almost always the first program to be cut. Funny how an actual class, and actual subject area is often cut before football or other true extracurriculars.
Is'nt this 1st movement is used in the Howard Hughes western... 'The Outlaw'?. I think it is.... and it is a bit more stirring than this version (good as it is).
Personally, I love Lady Gaga, but she doesn't use this at all in Marry the Night. She uses the Beethoven Piano Sonata no. 8. Both are called Pathetique, but completely different. Jussayin.
@Mizzles240 Well kidd.-o, "fire" is exactly the word you used. I'm sure the conductor who has the great privilege of having YOU in the orchestra is doing his best to train you to perfection as a learner; but you might stop a moment and realize that young man is no longer a learner, but a professional in one of the greatest symphonical orchestras in the world, "La Scala Theater's in Milano, Italy.
Iouri Temirkanov Chef d'orchestre Iouri Khatouïevitch Temirkanov, né le 10 décembre 1938 à Naltchik dans la République socialiste soviétique autonome kabardino-balkare, est un chef d'orchestre russe d'origine tcherkesse. Wikipédia Naissance : 10 décembre 1938 (74 ans), Naltchik, Russie Formation : Conservatoire Rimski-Korsakov de Saint-Pétersbourg Albums : Gala in Leningrad, Plus Groupes musicaux : Orchestre philharmonique royal, Orchestre symphonique de Baltimore
Thanks to Galdo80 for posting this work, although I wish it had been in stereo (it is not), and he would not have cut off the last notes of the descending solo clarinet at the end of this part.
Ouví dizer que a música de Tchaikovsky conquistou não apenas a Rússia, mas também Inglaterra, França, Áustria e até os Estados Unidos. No final da vida, o compositor escreveu a sinfonia "Patética" - e patetica, triste, foi também s sua morte. Conta-se que bebeu um copo de água e ficou com cólera, uma doença muito perigosa.
@JayOkan : i don't care even if he was doing himself .Althought , i din't have to know about this.I listen to his music since i was a little boy and he is like a godfather to me and i believe for many people .u don't have always to learn about the famous people's "kinky" habbits .
Saw Temirkanov yesterday in Rome, he conducted Requiem of Verdi... it is easy to be "great" with orchestra, that can play also without conductor ... but if he would work with orchestra that has a level not so high, and if thay play REALLY according to his hands, i have a lot of doubts about result!!!
@symphonyfirst I guess it all depends on what one finds in the programs of concerts that are given in our head-stuck arses elitist European concert halls. As far as I can see, any of the ones you named here don't appear very very frequently - better said, their appearances are few and far in between..What can the reason be, the conductors put those in so rarely??!!!