Tschaikowsky: 6. Sinfonie (»Pathétique«) ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Lionel Bringuier 

Yeah but he ruined the start of the last movement with his silly segue. Not good.

@@organboijust close your eyes

@@organboi nah. I don't think so. People always clap after 3rd movement. They just don't understand the structure of this symphony, and the not-clapping-between-the-movements rule. Some even immediately leave after 3rd movement. So I think he did really well on this.

@@MagicMusicBTG if the conductor doesn't turn around and face the audience, you dont clap!

@@anakinyu7459 but not everyone knows that. I've been at the theater, and trust me, they clapped in the middle of the 4th movement. Just when the whole orchestra play ppp, they clap. LOL. :)))

The best translation I can give is the form of passion most often given to a suffering: The passion of the Christ, for example. To love something so much that it brings you great and inevitable pain.

Thank you

This was beautifully written frend. I may disagree, as we are all owed the right, but the sentiments conveyed alleging the true meaning of music is not lost. Bravo.

I might add that life is a dual mirror. We exist in the reality created by our own minds self reflection. Life is beautiful and full of love and offers the ability, through its own unknown mechanism, to soothe and temper the mind and soul and guide it away from delusion. If one were to believe the only real delusion is self-delusion then life in itself has provided the answer for all of its inherent torments.

Me before listening: haha ok edgelord Me after listening: what are we and why do we remain? What is our existence meant for? Are we meant for anything at all? Are we inherently good? Inherently bad? Are we anything at all?

i literally just tweeted that i want the last movement to play at my funeral lmaoo

Tchaikovsky died 9 days after, so.... 😬

And have everyone who loved you depressed with this music? nah, I'd have a positive song played at my funeral, a reminder that love and not sadness is cooler xD

On god.

@@misterasterisco5217 Depression is not a bad thing. It makes people release their pain and move on Imagine playing pretty joyful or hyped music in your funeral It’d be pretty confusing to everyone lol

Me too - and I listen to it daily (nothing makes me concentrate like this particular piece).

Its probably my 25th time listening and it got me good today

I listened to this Symphonie for the second time tonight, and I almost fell out of my chair at the 11:00 mark. Fantastic!!!!!!!

Even the camera operators seemed shook :P

@@isaiahbaggett5014so true!

That is because positive emotions are simple, not complex and easier to achieve as a result. Positive/simple emotions are usually taken at face value with no further processing, that is because we are content with those emotions, there is nothing we want to change about them. Negative/Complex emotions require constant processing, finding out the reason, the solution. And perhaps, if there is no solution, we may deny the emotion, or accept it. Sadly, there are many more forms that suffering comes in, than happiness. Thus, extra specificity is required for the darkest of them. That may also be the reason that listening to sad music is coorelated to higher IQ, if you believe that sort of stuff. Simple/happy music may not be enough for them because it doesn't challenge their processing power. Perhaps smarter people get more out of the negative emotions that they can comprehend possibly better than most others, just because they may be intrigued by all of the questions they can ask. (Sorry for the rant there)

@@supersolomob422 I disagree. Positive emotions can also be complex, but I think your reasoning can still hold up if “positive emotion” has “superficial” attached as a modifier. Negative emotions can also be quite simple, especially in our era.

@@kintamas4425 To each their own. But let me elaborate When I say "Complex Emotions" I don't mean the literal list of complex emotions that exists. I mean the complexity of how much space they take up in your head, how much you have to process them, not complexity as in the emotions that appear under quite specific circumstances. But, THIS complexity is completely relative to one another. So you may think be thinking "Positive emotions can be complex, and don't have to only be simple". But what are you comparing their complexity to? Other emotions or the definition of superficial? Because they are simple when compared to the average complexity of negative emotions, but they are complex when compared to superficial emotions. For example: you puzzle over why something bad has happened to you. "Why God! Why!" you yell at the sky. Conversely, you don't puzzle with positive emotions, you don't wonder why unless it truly is out of the blue. Asking yourself "Why am I sad?" sounds natural: "Why am I happy?", it sounds forced. So, what I'm saying is that on a scale of "Complex emotions" to "Simple emotions", positive emotions are more likely to be at the latter half of the scale, and negitive at the former. And not many emotions are superficial, I'd say. Though, you could say emotions as a result of music are superficial, but I think music can evoke real emotions too. I think there are some positive emotions that are very complex, though rare. Usually they fit into the category of bittersweet, happysad. Like nostalgia or sentimentality, though there are potentially others. But notice they have a negative aspect. It's like a moving on dynamic, you move on to explore and get what you want, but you say goodbye to what you knew. The contrast between happy AND sad in one feeling serves to amplify them both. Such as it does in a happy cute story that turns unbelievably dark. The happiness is amplified in contrast with the darkness, and vice versa Negative emotions are internal conflict, positive emotions just plain aren't. And I can't say I understand what you meant when you said "Negative emotions can be simple, especially in our era". Because almost all negative emotions are followed by questions, that's not the case with positive ones. People are rarely sad and don't try to figure out why, so they can fix it. Because if you sit in sadness without even wondering why you're suffering you're probably a broken human. People don't wonder why they're happy, and they don't often try to become more happy when they are already happy (happiness, not contentness). I can understand that you have a different view. But I'm more keen on hearing why. Do you just disagree that your mind doesn't wonder why it's happy? Or is it something else?

@@supersolomob422 I disagree because misery is much easier to maintain than happiness. If you want consistent and stable happiness, you usually have to work to maintain so. Finally, it seemed to me like you were glorifying negative emotions. Also, I think people don’t tend to ask questions about their happiness because their actions serve as answers in of themselves.

@@kintamas4425 Perhaps it is for you. Personally, I'm more often content than miserable. But you're right, consistent misery is easy to maintain, but fleeting happiness isn't because it's fleeting. Contentment is also easy to maintain, however. In fact that's the defining characteristic of contentment, that it tends to be consistent. Some people are just predominantly optimistic and more likely to be positive, and some are pessimistic and more likely to be negative. It just depends on who you are. I've seen plenty of people staying optimistic in bad situations, people look on the bright side and stay content by thinking "I'm lucky it wasn't worse". And all of that does not at all affect the nature of of how complex processing negative emotions require. A person in constant hardship will find they are more exhausted from the mental processing and strain it takes on their brain, they are more likely to get headaches, lose sleep, lose their appetite, have no motivation for extra stimulation, they'll isolate. Why? Because their emotions are complex and weigh on their mind to the point where they can't do those processes right, the same cannot be said conversly. So compare that to those who have an easy life and stay content, nothing weighs on their mind, their emotional processing is simple and all of the extra problems are avoided. And no, I wasn't "glorifying" negative emotions in the real world. I was appreciating depressive music, quite a difference there. And that's not to say simplicity is bad, it what literally every human alive strives for, a simple life where they get what they want and nothing less And again, I still don't quite understand your answer. So you think happy people don't ask "Why am I happy?" because their actions ARE the answer? So you mean the answer is so simple they don't need to ask because they already know it? That sounds like a simple emotion to me It's still always the negative emotions asking the questions and the positive ones being the answer, it's the nature of human growth for people to have the goal of simplicity. Imagine: you're on your way to work. But oh no! You've run into a complication, traffic is so bad you'll be late! | Notice the word "complication", a complexening of the situation. If someone walked up to your car door and gave you some ice cream in the traffic, well that's not a complication (unless it's poisoned.). Complex is a synonym of complicated. A complication is when a situation becomes complicated. "com" in all of these words comes from the original meaning interwoven and folded, something interwoven (like arcs in a good story) is complex. BUT we use the noun "complication" to describe a negative change almost 100% of the time. Well why on earth would we do that? Because negative = complex/complicated And I mean it's kinda hard to find one thing that doesn't fit into "Negative is complex and positive is simple". (Positive) Cute art styles = *simple* and large smooth shapes, simple colors. (Negative) Horror art style = hyperrealism and jagged *complex* textures and proportions and shapes I mean I'm trying so hard to explain here, I'm really trying to breaking down into abstracts. I do want to understand. But I feel you if you don't feel like it's worth it to try to make me understand, then I understand lmao

And they do that all the time at every concert

tears tears tears

Lol

A cacoughany

Hey that's better than coughing at a beautiful adagio line

It's part of Tchaikovsky's genius...to give so resounding an end to a movement as to make the audience think it's over...and then gently, carefully, tear their hearts to pieces with the final movement. It's a tragic work from a tragic composer--all the glory is hollow at the end; pain and loss are the defining emotions. Pathetique.

@@theKobus Sure. Why not, let's cut the snobbery.

@@theKobus They gotta read up on what they are listening lol

Killerbee47 yeah - not many people, even those attending, are familiar with classical and romantic pieces these days. The 6th is a wonderful proof. What a tragedy that underlies the entire symphony, but an unknowing audience will not understand this until the fourth movement shocks them.

@Brain Inavat Yes, and I would love to see this come back.

i've played it a few times. hard to not get choked up in the last mov. i have to force myself to hold it together.

Also for music lovers.

@@cornel999 Sorry, but, I cannot hold it together. I've heard it so many times that I begin to tear up early in the 1st movement. It's the most beautiful, yet sad, of all symphonies. I just adore it.

Some musicians sometime look down their noses a bit a Tchaikovsky, particularly his penchant for rousing endings that play to the audience. But in my experience, there is nothing more fun or purely beautiful to the ears than playing his orchestral works. All great composers are fun to play in their own way, but certain passages in Tchaikovsky can shake you to the core when sitting in the middle of the music and playing your small part to create the sound.

I play clarinet and I can’t play this symphony without crying... and I can’t hear it played live without crying. I first heard it when I was nine years old and my soul left my body. Still one of the most (if not **the** most) genuinely devastating pieces of music in the classical repertoire.

I won't say there aren't more tragic ones but this is still a masterpiece

The last movement makes this the greatest piece of symphonic literature ever in my mind. It is followed closely by Rachmaninoff Symphony no 2!

@@OW0974 any examples?

@@OW0974 😮😮d😮😮😮😮😮😮

a lot of hyberbole gets thrown around on youtube, but I've racked my brain and can't come up with anything more tragic than this. even something like the Schindler's list theme, which is maybe mildly tragic, is a pale comparison to the gut wrenching dispair that Tchaikovsky packs into this final movement.

Why a Requiem?

@@leocadieux6781 He died nine days after the premiere due to cholera poisoning (officially). Apparently he forgot to boil his tap water, a bit suspicious for doing so his whole life. The government most likely found he is gay. As an act to redeem himself, the Government ordered him to kill himself. Or he just did not want to life anymore, now that his secret had been revealed. Rimsky-Korsakov also asked Tchaikovsky whether the Symphony had program (had a meaning), he replied, it has, yet others have to find out. That is why I am saying, the last movement is his Requiem, it is not typcial to have such a tragic ending to a symphony (even right after the third one is an ending in itself). You can feel all the pain he was going through.

@@schell9726 two set conspiracies be like

@@joseg.matamoros2847 oh he knows... Although im pretty sure this is true

@@schell9726 It's a conspiracy theory. Don't tell it like facts.

Respectful audience. Here in the US people would immediately be running to the exits, to beat the traffic rush home. I have witnessed this at this symphony.

I have no memory of typing this lol

buscar tipo de joyas

+Nuria Sendra Montaner franciscana

Tchaikovsky is dead?! Why wasn't I told?

WJohnM really bro

@@bruh7130 Queen Anne's dead, too.

Well in that respect it's just like my love life

Only the first movement? The hole symphony is an emotional rollercoaster

@@lucianasoriagutierrez5593 facts except the last movement is mostly just soul destroying

I have learned, over the last 70+ years or so, that "Minor is richer than Major" (quote borrowed from Virgil Fox at Fillmore East in NYC). This Pathétique, plus the Ruhevolle of Mahler's 4th, plus Vorspiel und Liebestod (Tristan), plus Tod und Verklarung (Richard Strauss), plus Sibelius' 2nd Symphony, plus La Boheme and Turandot, plus ANY Debussy, are ALL my "go to" pieces for solitary, beautiful listening.

@@oleflogger6828 Good tastes... I have a lot to learn. My actually fav composers are Schubert, Chopin and Tchaikovsky. But i love Mozart, Beethoven, Liszt, Mendelssohn, some Schumann, Brahms, Verdi, some Wagner... Where to begin with Puccini, Wagner and Mahler? (I also love so much Strauss, Richard... And where to start with Debussy?) (Tell me some pieces please)

Wagner Tristan

@@kerencanelo8580 Debussy- Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune and maybe watch someone dance on this piece (I think Nureev did it after Nijinsky)

For trauma and deep melancholy, try Bruckner 8th too...

Rick Marti Bunch of fictional crap! Read Alex Ross in the New Yorker Magazine, or Richard Taruskin's refutations of every one of the hyper sensationalized "homosexual despair and resignation to suicide." Tchaikovsky died of cholera, attested to by four doctors. The suicide canard is a handy one - albeit false - for the h8rs and sensationalist hyper romantics!!!! www.therestisnoise.com/2004/05/tchaikovsky.html

+Tom Gossard The general consensus has generally been that he died from disease (Cholera) after drinking infected tap water. As it was considered highly dangerous to drink untreated water at the time how do we know he did not do this as a form of suicide? We cannot know what is going on in another person's mind but what we do know is that it is today the fashion to rewrite history in almost every sphere.

+cameronpaul A teacher of mine says that tchaikovsky intentionally drank this infected water when he heard (well, he conducted) the performance of this masterpiece and realized he'd never be able to create something equal or better. It sounds quite sensationalist and trivial, but maybe there is a part of truth, because of the passional life he lived and the hugeness of this Symphony".

+Murtagh5000 This is an old tale and very inaccurate version.

+Murtagh5000 Please read Klaus Mann's (son of Thomas Mann) novel, "Pathetic Symphony." I think it provides a very convincing explanation.

I never noticed this! Thank you for pointing it out!

Moral of the story: Society corrupts everything...

yikes

Tchaikovsky said "Never in my life have I been more convinced that I have written a beautiful work." He was in a most cheerful mood when he composed that finale, and when he departed from Klin for the first performance in Petersburg. In any case, the march is clearly a deliberate musical contrast to the rest of the work. I am sorry, but diffuse psychobabble says nothing about Tchaikovsky. Especially when it bears no relation to the facts. Quite apart from which, many people find this work uplifting, particularly he finale with its expansive melodies and incomparable orchestration. Finally, calling this work a "sham" is a woeful misunderstanding of all that Tchaikovsky stood for. If there is such a thing as an uncultured philistine, his remarks would sound very much like psy-kylo-gy"s.

@@phillipvietri8786 Excuse me? I played clarinet in an orchestra for 8 years and Tchaikovsky is by far my favorite composer and my favorite to play. I have never met anyone who thought the finale of the 6th was “uplifting”... I wasn’t saying anything bad about this symphony, I hold it in the highest esteem and think it’s a masterpiece. What I described is how many people feel when they first hear this symphony, the triumphant third movement often brings applause from new listeners because they don’t know what’s coming next. You are extremely rude, but have a nice day anyway.

"Tchaikovsky is a jerk...a sham" Doesn't sound like esteem to me! I was very rude because such comments about such a great composer elicited them. Sorry if they hurt your feelings.

Nothing is beyond piano number 1... imo

I don't know where you get "the decadence of mankind", but then, it's left to each person to feel differently.

I feel differently. To me the piece is not about the decadence mankind but about the downfall of one man.

@@johannesasfaw It is about both, an expression of the existential torment of life.

I think he was saying good bye with this piece.

Nobody knows when they will die.

Bernstein said he probably wasn’t depressed. When you’re depressed you don’t even want to get out of bed let alone right a symphony. But I don’t know…

@@markwardprodking That makes a lot of sense. Bernstein knew a thing or two about clinical depression. Widespread among great musicians. I will tell you one thing, it is hard to imagine anyone purposely taking a drink of cholera infused water. There is suicide, and then there is dying of cholera. Not a good way to go, to put it mildly. Death by hanging is a tea party in comparison.

@@markwardprodking not all depression presents itself so extremely. My entire family has depression (barring my mother). We all go to work/school every day. We are still depressed. It was very likely that Tchaikovsky WAS suffering from depression. He was prone to “insomnia, fears, and extreme fluctuations of mood, from depression to elation”. This seems a bit more like bipolar disorder to me; either way, Tchaikovsky was mentally ill.

There is a popular theory that he was being pressured to die since he was gay and that was illegal in russia but he was kind of an icon so the state couldn't let that information be public.

If only people hadn't clapped after Mvt. III... that was so cringe. 😬

It happens more often than you think. The bombastic ending of the third makes people think it is the end.

Well said!

and last

The last mov is also a requiem cuz he died 9 days after premiere of symphony So sus and sad

that’s because it was his final, and arguably most eloquent piece of music he’s ever put out

I don't believe there is any best symphony... There are so many great symphonies, e.g Mahler, Bruckner, Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Beethoven, Scriabin, Rachmaninoff, the list goes on and on. They're all so different yet amazing that you can't rank them by their greatness. However, I definitely agree with you that this is an amazing symphony which is one of my favourites as well!

It's not, but it's definitely one of them!

@AD Shyn Well said.

@robert jackson sus 🤨 ???

@@EminAnimE1 your are really good

1 minute of silence for tchaikovsky

Specially flown over from London after a summer's training at the Proms.

ROBERT FRANK GILL LOL your comment made my day

At all performances of this symphony everyone with the hint of a cough should be given a roll of extra-strength lozenges, and the people sitting behind them should be given a garrote and instructions on using it. Hint: loudly unwrapping the lozenges is sufficient provocation.

Super!

@@robertfrankgill5962 Ottima orchestra direttore super.

Thank you so much

Thanks a lot pal !

Спасибо.

Thank u u are a god and a blessing in disguise. i love u

Thank you, i have an assignment to listen to this. I love you

Это ШИЗОФРЕНИЯ. Eng. This is a schizophrenia.

Indeed! This is one of the most cherished works in the entire symphonic literature!

beethovens are also pretty good

When you have the chance, listen to Rachmaninoff's 2nd Symphony - use RU-vid and play the Radio Philharmonica Orkest in the Concertgegouw. It's on a par with this.

Ole Flogger ,’

„classical“

Bonjour le couac à 27 min, entre le premier violon et la chef d'orchestre, savez vous, erreur de mesure ? Merci.

The person who coughed a few seconds in be like

Me too! It jumpscared me haha

I think the formal organization and internal logic in Tchaikovsky are underestimated. He might have underestimated them himself - he was extremely self-critical - but I believe I have studied the score of the "Pathétique" sufficiently to see that they are there.

Are you serious? The first movement is in sonata form, it is just done so brilliantly you don't realize it. Just pure excellence. I realized some ingenious development only after reading the score and playing a piano accomodation. Second movement is a dance expect for the peculiar meter 5/4. Third movement is a march-like movement with a simple structure. The fourth movement also has a solid structure even if does not correspond to the order of the movements in classical symphonies, but it works excellenrlt nevertheles

It's just a series of tunes - it's not serious music - but it's really lovely

But does Mahler have a formal organization in all of his symphonies? I'm a casual listener and it seems to me that Mahler's works are even less organized than Tchaikovsky and yet Mahler's works are very popular. My point is that it doesn't matter that much. It's important for those who indulge in formal studies, but occasional listeners don't need this feature in music.

@@theodentherenewed4785 "Repetition is the essence of musical coherency" is a paraphrase of a quote I've heard before, although I've since forgotten the attribution. My point is, though, that at least some extent of structure is needed for any piece of music to be easily processed by the listener. That form doesn't always need to be hard-edged, as demonstrated by Tchaik and Mahler, but it does need to exist, and can sometimes even benefit the enjoyability of a piece's development if it does follow some sort of strict pattern (beethoven's 5th symphony mvt 1, for example, seems incredibly restricted and simple in its form with only 2 simple contrasting themes, but this only makes it easy to process and understand and might be one of the contributing factors to its popularity).

Toda la vida escuchando esta sinfonía sin comprender por qué el último movimiento es tan triste...

@@diegoblasco8365 La muerte, el despedido ultimativo por Ud no son tristes? Son la mensaje del último movimiento.

@@diegoblasco8365 Se "murió de cólera" (suicidó) 9 días después de la Premiere

lolol. You sir or madam, are FUNNY.

you made me laugh

Scares the heck out of me pretty regularly. Even 60 years on after that first time, when I was 10 years old.

cagin ssinfonia fantastica

cagin simfonia fantastica

Так и есть !

So did I. Before that, I stood for half an hour in front of the house in which he died - shortly before the 100th anniversary of his death.

I wish I could do that but I don't dare to visit Russia any more with the political situation there right now. I always wanted to visit St Petersburg, sounds like amazing city, but problem always was that it is located in Russia

Bonjour le couac à 27 min, entre le premier violon et la chef d'orchestre, savez vous, erreur de mesure ? Merci.

Dude, you need to being ashamed of yourself and language skills. This is a beautiful and eloquent eulogy of classical music, written like a poet or master writer

Casual flex with the "it's my fifth language" lol. Your English is great.

Check out the Liszt transcendental etudes as well as Chopin’s études op 25 you will find the hidden jewels

Thank you... I can't help thinking of "Death in Venice", a picture realized by Luchino Visconti, in which Gustav von Aschenbach -alias Gustav Mahler- died from cholera, cholera of love... or impossibility of love. P.I. Tchaikovsky was also involved secretly into love for the boys... With his "Winterreise" Franz Schubert wrote also the music of his own death, by siphylis and absence of love.

He wrote his brother telling him how proud he was about this piece and how beautiful it was. He was about to be outed regarding his homosexuality. Believed to have drank from the river water as a form of suicide. A national treasure avoiding disgrace. So sad, like the 4th movement.

I don't know where you got this information from, but Tchaikovsky had no intention nor the impression of composing his own Requiem. He started composing this symphony in February 1893, he was not going to die until November 6 of that same year, how could he predict that he was going to die a few months later? By the time he was composing this symphony, he felt like he was composing his best work, and he had many plans for the future: a cello concerto, a flute concerto, a ballet and an opera, even a second tour of the United States.

Isn’t it Tchaikovsky...?

@@leocadieux6781 Thank you for the truthful information. Tchaikovsky had no intention of dying, as evidenced by his letters, memoirs of friends and relatives. I don't understand why many people are more willing to believe in gossip?

Well stated!

Brilliant comment.

Finally someone appreciates this mind blowing section. It is the sound of pure existential dread grasping the psyche with all of its might. This performance in particular nails the tempo during this part. In all the other recording I’ve heard it is too rushed and the brass is not powerful enough, but in this, it is paced perfectly. Those trombone blares are your strongest inner demons letting you know that yes, the world is indeed ending and you are finished.

My god, it is. And even after such a long pause, the applause still felt disappointingly early. A hair early, but still early- Bringuier was very slowly coming out of that silence, to finally turn towards the audience and signal its inevitable end, but they anticipated him.

I KNEW A GUY WHO WOULD LEAVE AFTER THE 3RD MOVEMENT ON THAT SO EMOTIONAL HIGH NOTE RATHER THAN LEAVE AFTER THAT GUT WRENCHINGLY SORROWFUL LAST MOVEMENT....

Нет, он не знал. Чайковский Пётр Ильич, умер от тифа,выпив сырой воды в кафе. Но этот шедевр будет жить в веках! Это божественное произведение! Величайший талант и фантастическое исполнение, как трогательно и прекрасно- до слёз!

pretty sure classical music had an influence on metal music!

Gordon! What are you waiting for? PICK it up Again and play, man, play!!

Rimsky-Korsakov and Scriabin had synesthesia (color hearing). Rimsky-Korsakov's music is often called "sound painting". They wrote music based on their color sensations.

15:47 if you want something strong after a dose of chilling

Funny, the timestamp matches another great piece of Tchaikovsky. 😉

@@xeroeddie 😊 which piece is it?

@@Casandrargentina 1812 Overture 🙂

Bonjour le couac à 27 min, entre le premier violon et la chef d'orchestre, savez vous, erreur de mesure ? Merci.

FIRST TIME READ ABOUT THE HUNGARIAN CONDUCTOR FERENC FRICSAY. I HEARD A MUSICIAN FROM ORCHESTRE DU FRANCE TALKING... ABOUT HIM...SAID THAT MAESTRO FRI SAY WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW BECAUSE MUSIC WAS VERY CLEAR IN HIS MIND.,AND HE WANTS TO HEARD EVERY NOTE OF THE SCORE. JUST AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS MICHAEL TO BRING UP THIS EXCELENT MUSICIAN I SAW IHIM INTERNET ONE OF HIS REHERSALS THE MOLDAU BY SMETANA. WITH VIENNA PHILARMONIC..

@@miguelgondi3843 Thank you for sharing that, Miguel. It's always a pleasure to hear that performance from the great Hungarian Master.

Lui

Non riesco ad ascoltarla senza piangere, la musica in generale è una magia, mi permette di gettare via la ragione e lasciarmi trasportare completamente dai sentimenti

@@thetheater7610 Ha perfettamente ragione, salutoni!

thank you

don’t forget 43:25!

@@wooogie672 it's a personal archive for me to see whenever i come back to this video. But thanks that was a beautiful moment

@@knownanonymous1691 ik lol i was just giving u another moment that u could add :)) edit: as in like, i think u would also like that moment

@@wooogie672 yes as i said, i did enjoy it. Thank you a lot. Actually your reply made me come back to the video and watch it again for which i'm thankful to you. Tchaikovsky's music is so beautiful 🥺🥺

It's lovely that you call him Petya.

@@StefanoMontaniaccording to russian culture it’s rude. “Petya” is reserved for family and friends.

"just a person who struggled to show through music the painful experience of someone who was born posthumous." Or, maybe also, the painful experience of someone who was born gay in XIX century's Russia... Even now many LGBT+ people still have distressing lifes in Putin's Russia. Some people may keep going but others... unfortunately decided to not to live anymore... And that's really very sad... There's no hope actually... No hope... no... no.

God damn that’s cringe…

Her: :Uh what did you just do?" Him: "Oh god she knows I messed up-"

They secretly have sex between the concerts

@@user-vs5rj7gy8t wtf HAHAHAHAHAH

The reply went from most feasible to absolutely the worst theory possible

There's some love

Thank you. I wish there was more in this comments section about the unbridled and intense gaiety of the third and the sweeping passions of the first.

Да,время идёт и лишь музыка- вечность! Это шедевр,который не сравним ни с чем, это наше наследие,которое подарил Пётр Ильич,став навеки бессмертным для всего мира!

No tengo palabras

This has been my favorite work for over 30 years and when I heard Bringuier's interpretation I put it at the top of my playlist.

I feel bad for those who had to listen to them.

@@jeremystryer1594 Perhaps they would put the applause in the music score after a while

Clapping between movements was a thing when Tchaikovsky wrote this piece, so to me it isn't too much of an issue. Being snobbish about it might turn away people who would otherwise be interested in listening to more classical music. Bonus fun fact: the last two movements were swapped around when this piece was performed in the USSR lest it be too depressing

I feel sad for the pretentious twats.

Clapping after Rachmaninov 3rd piano concerto, 2dn movement is far worse

I completely agree in this case. Just have a look at Chungs interpretation on RU-vid - he let the audience clap and started the fourth movement after that. In my opinion, the third movement of the Pathétique should be treated in a special way but that doesn't mean that everyone shall clap between movements in every symphony, even if it's played brilliantly.

As I understand, in Italy, during the time of Rossini, it was normal to applaud whenever they felt like it.

We don't hate people who applaud like this. We love them. It gives us a chance to look down our noses at them, and looking down noses is what noses are for. (In today's world their olfactory function has atrophied from overstimulation.)

Tchaikovsky specifically marked for there to be continuity from movement 3-4. An expression of gratitude towards the musicians doesn’t bother me, but stopping a piece half way does. Silence is part of music and Tchaikovsky did not put clapping in his score

It's better than not being there, but it's better yet to stay quiet