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TDA7293 100 watt audio amplifier kit test and review 

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Another solder together kit that cost $8 shipped. Can this much power for so little money be any good? Watch and find out.
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@robrath31
@robrath31 5 лет назад
I love your none BS videos, always refreshing, to the point, solid testing, gives me much better confidence to buy an item after watching your vids! Thanks!
@logotrikes
@logotrikes 3 года назад
Yours are the best and easiest to understand specs/measurements for an old dafty like me. Great stuff John...
@cantoragospel9538
@cantoragospel9538 6 лет назад
Incredible amplifier! really powerfu, hifi taste and subwoofer. One of best power amps in the market!
@jainvibhore1997
@jainvibhore1997 7 лет назад
I would totally love to see a video of this amp hooked to your active filter drive a sub woofer. Nice video as usual.
@vapingwithjames3370
@vapingwithjames3370 4 года назад
You did a great job putting that board together. Great video, thank you.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 4 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@davegeorge7094
@davegeorge7094 4 года назад
I love big-chip AB amps, analog is miniaturized and it's smooth AND DMOS output is my favorite driver transistor. ST make great devices!
@Tracks777
@Tracks777 7 лет назад
Fantastic video! Keep it up!
@davidhunt9165
@davidhunt9165 6 лет назад
You are my go to source for testing these cheap chip amps.
@dexterpagurayan4881
@dexterpagurayan4881 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this video sir Now i become more eager to have assemble this kit in addition to my collection 😻
@adithyapillai4259
@adithyapillai4259 7 лет назад
Finally. A great video of the all mighty TDA7293 chip. Had been looking around for this kinda video from months. Thank you so much for this great video. (Coul you please suggest a good power supply for this amp. Can't use the toroidal Transformer)
@John-xv3by
@John-xv3by 7 лет назад
Why can't use toroidal transformer for this?
@Diyfab254
@Diyfab254 7 лет назад
Great review as always.Thanks.
@CoolDudeClem
@CoolDudeClem 7 лет назад
That's a lot of power for such a small chip! I wouldn't have thought that could do any more than about 20 before clipping. Be a good subwoofer amp for a home theater sound system.
@solosymphony
@solosymphony 7 лет назад
That's a fantastic rundown of that board, I've got a similar one (hope it's as accurate in spec as yours was). But I've been having a heck of a time finding resources online that explain clearly enough for us newbies on how to properly power up a Center Tapped device like this in real world scenario (as in, not connected to a special bench-top power supply). Could you possibly do a video where you explain where to get, and what kinds of supplies are needed, and how to figure out best transformers for your needs (and things like, what's the minimum size you can use for your project board, how to safely wire it up to mains, any additional parts needed (like what's this stuff about additional power bridge rectifier boards I've seen a bit of) ...etc) Thank you so much.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 7 лет назад
I covered some of this in older videos, such as "selecting a transformer for audio amplifiers".
@snaprollinpitts
@snaprollinpitts 7 лет назад
wow, that is a power house!!!, hi John, looks like I'll be getting some of those too.
@wal
@wal 7 лет назад
Great video! I prefer amps that can use simple power supplies or batteries though (also already assembled, lol). You are much more handy with a soldering iron than me 😁. Keep up the cool vids and get your hands on one of the TPA3116D2 2.1 amps...they are impressive!
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 7 лет назад
I definitely want to get one of those boards in to test.
@MrBrymstond
@MrBrymstond 6 лет назад
BidDWiz+ Need more mini amp test. Two different way of testing, you and John should look at using both ways.
@techpluslab8744
@techpluslab8744 5 лет назад
@@JohnAudioTech Hey there is a prebuilt version of this amp that costs about half the price from aliexpress,you should check that out.some claim that ic used in that is actually 7294 but falsely advertised as 7293 so we need to change boot strap capacitor pin ( 12 /14 pins).that will be fun to test and check what actually is in it!
@whozaskin3639
@whozaskin3639 5 лет назад
Definitely agree about the power supply. An 8 dollar amp is no good if you need an 80 dollar p/s.
@frantisekkociscak8713
@frantisekkociscak8713 5 лет назад
I also prefer amplifiers with simple power supply (of course, does it simple to have got in praxis for ex. car acumulator or other batteries) but you have to count with one important thing - you never can reach most low frequencies with simple power supply amplifier's like by dual (symetrical) power supply amplifiers. Maybe till 100 Wats audio power is possible to use single power supply. For higher audio power is recomembed use dual power supply amplifiers.
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 7 лет назад
On your brief testing that must be one of the best chips around at present. Leaves the class D stuff well behind. Almost tempted to get a couple and do some full tests on distortion, frequency response power bandwidth to see how close it gets to a full Hi end amplifier. Interesting if nothing else. PS We would say IT'S THE DOGS BOLLOCKS!! Just a thought, I see many suppliers put 2 or even 3 of these in parallel to produce amazing power output for very little money. Forgetting about the extra power, the current delivery must be amazing. I think I will investigate this arrangement, should! sound better even at normal listening levels.
@bernoinferno4389
@bernoinferno4389 6 лет назад
I'm interested in your thoughts regarding 'Leaves the class D stuff well behind'. How so? A disadvantage with this chip (TD7293( is that it must run via a dual-rail supply and the class-D chips don't. Also from what I see, both this chip and the TPA3116 seem fine in relation to sound quality.
@billkalina3089
@billkalina3089 3 года назад
Hello Michael! I know this is an old thread, but i must respond: I originally built this kit, using the supplied components, as well as a kit using the LM3886 ics. They both promptly blew up!! I suspect the chips were poor counterfeits.! I'm glad John had no issues. I subsequently built the same kit, using chips purchased fron Mouser., and they worked fine...no issues. So be warned. BTW, I recently came into possession of a 1980 Sansui G5700 receiver, which was touted as sounding wonderful. I can honestly say I am much more satisfied with the sound of the LM3886 boards. Go figure! Best regards...
@ryannaudi4067
@ryannaudi4067 7 лет назад
thanks for your videos. would love to see a test on ljm l15d pro. I built 2 amps with them and liked them a lot. but I don't have any instruments for testing.
@evahle
@evahle 7 лет назад
Nice job. Thank you! I wish you could have used 3 or 4 different frequencies to test for distortion though.
@ricclark6977
@ricclark6977 2 года назад
Love the PhotonicInduction drop there!
@scottmuckleston3308
@scottmuckleston3308 7 лет назад
There is TDA7294 100 Volts 100 Watts DMOS Audio Amplifier IC, TDA7295 80 Volts 80 Watts DMOS Audio Amplifier IC, TDA7296 70 Volts 60 Watts DMOS Audio Amplifier IC. This DMOS audio amplifiers is aimed for the home audio market. Excellent RU-vid video 10 out 10.
@CaribbeanGTR
@CaribbeanGTR 6 лет назад
John I enjoy learning from your videos. Would it be possible for you to add Frequency Response/Range test to these AMP? The RMS Output and THD is good, but would love to the what range they will play.
@Tonytitan
@Tonytitan 5 лет назад
Could you give more detail regarding the low pass filter input? Specifically, one that would allow speaker level/high level signal input into this little jewel! Thank you for your hard work, time and attention.
@mohamadasriabdulazid4784
@mohamadasriabdulazid4784 5 лет назад
Very good reviews
@Rendraco79
@Rendraco79 6 лет назад
Hi there john, i just recieve a couple of this audio amps, a good ebay offer, $3 - 4 dollars each, the board or pcb version is "yx-1536", with a couple of big 50Volts - 2200uF capacitors in it. (maybe a "nichicon" copy but functionals caps), i'm planning to feed this with a 40 Vac or 48 Vac central tap transformer, max 50 Vac. (possibly from a microwave, i built one lately at 36 Vac central tap and it kicks good!) i have a couple of projects with this amps, power a couple of sub woofers; one sony 8" at 6 Ohms (SS-WG490) that i carefully reconstructed, and rescued from a very nasty hands and other handcrafted that i have around ages with no spk in it, but ready for action. it will recieve a 10" s.woofer probably. seeing your video, i'm possibly changing my mind, because of the distorsion factor wich is minimum in this amp... im just thinking... well, what do you think about this amps for power a s.woofer? (max 10" s.woofer at 150-250 Watts) it is efficient or is too much for (i mean quality vs power) ? or is a better option for a full range amp with a decent preamp? i hope to read a perspective from some else who make a similar project and can tell how was the experience too, it will be helpfull, and thanks in advance. thanks for your videos john and sharing your work with all of us, greetings from Colombia.
@TAMIL-MUSIC
@TAMIL-MUSIC 5 лет назад
can l parlel the speaker out for higher power for subwoofer amp
@cac2244
@cac2244 5 лет назад
John, i would really like if you could provide the link where to buy this amp and all others that you review. I am trying to find this TDA 7293 kit and can't find it... I am a new sub, love your work.
@cocosloan3748
@cocosloan3748 6 лет назад
Woow Never thought i see this from integrated amp...Just wow..
@patprop74
@patprop74 6 лет назад
out of all the DIY kits out there which would you recommend preferably one I can wire right to a AC120V wall outlet and stereo that can also use one of those cheap Bluetooth mp3 decoder boards ?
@SuperCarver2011
@SuperCarver2011 7 лет назад
John, I received one of these assembled. I have a Hammond 56V CT transformer. I see some kind of monolitic IC on it which I presume is the rectifier bridge. Is there any other external components beside fusing and the transformer that is required to use this amp? I have a large heatsink for it and it is also mounted to the inside of a aluminum chassis with thermal grease with the heatsink mounted on the outside of the chassis. What kind output power does this amp produce into 8 ohm load?
@flash001USA
@flash001USA 11 месяцев назад
There's another version of this amp with a bridge rectifier on it to accept a 50 - 60 volt center tapped AC input and the issue with the amp is you get small but annoying AC hum in the amp. I've removed the bridge rectifier and I plan on setting it up with a decent filtered DC source and I think this will clean it up like what you have with this amp in this video. I am going to use this in a small bass guitar amp but I don't plan on pushing anymore than 50 or 60 watts RMS into an 8 ohm load with the option to run a second external 8 ohm speaker but still not push it past 60 or 70 watts RMS. I may reply back to this video and let you know if removing the bridge rectifier and setting it up for a split DC voltage cleans up the hum. I did add a steel plate to the bottom of the amp to deal with any grounding issues and it helped some so with a little bit of luck going to a DC input will remove any AC hum.
@jamesmorton7881
@jamesmorton7881 5 лет назад
So, what are the voltage rating on the polarized capacitors? Is it safe at +40vdc rails?
@mbermar
@mbermar Год назад
Hi John, greetings from Brazil. How we can specify the transformer current to feed this IC, let's say, on your examples for 32V+32V both 4 and 8Ohms loads?
@kevinlivingston9563
@kevinlivingston9563 7 лет назад
Damn 11 watts per dollar? Not a bad kit right there.
@ruifaias4058
@ruifaias4058 5 лет назад
this chip is used in lots of active subwoofer used in consume eletronics. the philips sw8000sa is one good example
@cmj20002
@cmj20002 6 лет назад
So you need two of these for stereo sound and what kind of transformer would be needed?
@chikku168
@chikku168 7 лет назад
dear john can you tell me how much current and a voltage transformer is it needed for normal (not over driving these ics) working of this ics if I needed a sterio set up with two of this
@bones007able
@bones007able 3 года назад
Are you measuring the supply voltage? or the voltage at the speakers?
@wefukthenwo
@wefukthenwo 3 года назад
This chip is used in the Marshall MG series amplifier.
@tara1950
@tara1950 4 года назад
What wattage would you get with your test setup into 8 ohms @ +/-15v and +/-18v please if it's not too much trouble? I figure it's probably about 12w & 17w respectively but I would like to have those values confirmed if at all possible.
@johnnycordero5808
@johnnycordero5808 5 лет назад
hello friend: very interesting review of that integrated circuit and very well explained, I congratulate you for that good explanation, I also wanted to ask a question, would it be possible to build an amplifier for guitar with that kit? Thank you in advance for your response.
@oache81
@oache81 5 лет назад
Hi, Thanks for this video, I bought 2 of these, but the version that you can use AC directly on them and they work very well.I use 2x30V AC 300VA transformer (measured is actually 32. something so it goes to the max 40V DC after rectifiing).I cool them with 2 AMD coolers (they are cold enough up to 30 percent power to not run the fans) and the fans are powered by a 5V USB adapter once I need more power.Most impressive is that they are dead silent when there is no input.I added a volume control and it started picking up some noise, but you can barely hear it and also is the same noise regardless of the potentiometer position.Anyway nice product and very cheap.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 5 лет назад
They are nice little boards. Amazing for the money. Be sure to ground the volume control's casing if it is metal to help shield from noise.
@jokolewung9093
@jokolewung9093 2 года назад
is it safe to connect 2x32VAC from transformer?
@neogeo106
@neogeo106 5 лет назад
thank you very much sir!
@davidhunt9165
@davidhunt9165 6 лет назад
Oh one other thing, any turn on thumping or is it silent at power on?
@kevinlivingston9563
@kevinlivingston9563 7 лет назад
Hey John how about doing some active filters?
@techotoddy
@techotoddy 4 года назад
Hi John. Great video. Just wondering if you have any thoughts on higher voiltage rails. I can get my hands on a couple of transformers (for free) with 34VAC secondary. After rectification, with no load, I should have +/- rails around 46V to 47V. Should be within spec in theory. If I trim the gain back a touch to limit the power output, I figure I'll just have a little more headroom, less chance of clipping/distortion right? Any other disadvantages I need to consider? Look forward to your reply. Love your channel by the way!
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 4 года назад
I don't feel comfortable powering these little chips at such high rail voltages. I'd stay under 40v for 8 ohms and 28v for 4 ohm loads.
@xfup
@xfup 4 года назад
if you were to use this full time, what would be the best power Transformer to use?
@souravsaha3580
@souravsaha3580 6 лет назад
Can u please tell me how much power i could get into 4ohm load at 12-0-12v 6amp transformer??plz reply ..
@adithyapillai4259
@adithyapillai4259 4 года назад
If i'm not wrong this is the only chip that you've reviewed that puts out this kind of power (Class AB) with close to no distortion. I had these boards for a while now and I was waiting since a long time for you to review them. The only down side to this chip I can think of is the dual rail supply apart from that I am gonna use it in a Subwoofer. You should really check out NCS (No Copyright Sounds) on RU-vid, That might help you with the Sound test of these amplifier tests you do. Thank you for the Quality Content.
@gossetmoncada
@gossetmoncada 5 месяцев назад
Awesome, there is any replacement in 2024 (A/B) not Class D?
@amitghosh6966
@amitghosh6966 3 года назад
If I use a 12-0-12 volt, 3 Ampere transformer, will it be okay if I am using it for lesser Power output ? Will the chip draw more current in this case ? (I got the Tda7294 instead of 7293)
@nikiforosf4824
@nikiforosf4824 4 года назад
I have tried the same amplifier and I hear a quite unpleasant hum/white noise passing to the speakers. Do you have any explanation/solution to this? I tried it with 18 volts. Could this be the problem? Thanks.
@2davydo
@2davydo 7 лет назад
I bough this same board awhile ago. But the 2 chip version w/ paralleled outputs for 160 watts max power. At the time I think it was about 8 or 9 bucks. shipped.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 7 лет назад
Amazing they can sell them so cheap.
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome Год назад
I ordered a bord that looks alot like this only with out the IC and its made for the lm3886 which i have some OG lm3886's so i hope it works well
@games4life743
@games4life743 4 года назад
Can you show me how to power the amp I dont have that machine you have?
@sheepbaba
@sheepbaba 4 года назад
Looks good. I bought 3 ready made kits for £3.50 each so maybe they're lower spec. Components don't look as fancy and mine is rectified. I am guessing I don't need to Insulate them from the heat sink?? Looked at the data sheet and it said only power transistors needed insulating in one of the schematics. Did you just use paste?
@MrPounal
@MrPounal 5 лет назад
Hey john I just receive mine and is ac volt it mark on it and it as a bridge rectifire on board
@DasAntiNaziBroetchen
@DasAntiNaziBroetchen 3 года назад
Anyone know where one can still get this board? All I can find is a variation that accepts AC and has a rectifier.
@100amps
@100amps 5 лет назад
Hi. For the missing RF lowpass on the input, can you use a little toroid core on the input lead, or best stick with an RC network?
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 5 лет назад
Best just to stay with RC network.
@mrmax1467
@mrmax1467 2 года назад
Greetings from Xenia, I just found your channel and love it. I have a question, is there an American supplier for some of these OP Amp bare pcb's? Looks like everything from China is taking 4-6 weeks. Thanks in advance.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! I can't say about that board, but there are some distributers in the US that sell on ebay.
@mrmax1467
@mrmax1467 2 года назад
@@JohnAudioTech I bought several preassembled boards, and all of the chips I could find on Mouser/Digikey. I plan to build my own from scratch using some of the chips, I'll most likely copy one of yours. We just moved to the Xenia/Yellow Springs area, it's nice to know there is someone in the area that shares my interest in audio and electronics. Thanks for the great videos.
@user-uk8fo5ol4q
@user-uk8fo5ol4q 4 месяца назад
Hi can i ask again😂 what if i use 2pcs tda is it suitable with 1 transformer if yes how many vollt AC transfo is needed and ampere or it's okay if i use 2pcs 32-0-32 transfo for 2pcs tda or separate transpo for each tda? Or 1 transfo for 2pcs tda what do you recommend sir thank😊
@modelnutty6503
@modelnutty6503 5 лет назад
I'm so late to the show but DANG! been decades since electronics classes, but you could "probably almost" use a huge bridge rectifier into 110-115v AC ( x .707?) to get 75-80vdc? couple big power caps to help suppress 60hz sliding past the rectifier.. and rock ON! (?)
@snaprollinpitts
@snaprollinpitts 7 лет назад
hey John, when you review stuff like this could you please put a link to the guy/ item on ebay thanks mike
@uK8cvPAq
@uK8cvPAq 7 лет назад
Hi John, great video as always. Would it be possible for you to upload that test tone of yours with the 1% distortion harmonic to somewhere like filedropper? I know you can make them in audacity but I'm not very confident in using it. Thanks.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 7 лет назад
I put them up a while ago. You should be able to download them. There are tones with other % levels of reference signal as well. drive.google.com/open?id=0BwoY8sWBPT5odTl3MlFIcmJUSXM Just don't click to play the signal because it is recorded at the highest digital level and might give you a bit of a headache! Let me know if you were successful in downloading them.
@uK8cvPAq
@uK8cvPAq 7 лет назад
They downloaded fine and work great, thanks!
@ruikazane5123
@ruikazane5123 6 лет назад
Very clean power, but I REALLY hate the three power inputs, i can't use it portably with a voltage booster on pure DC power.
@shantamoiranthem1912
@shantamoiranthem1912 4 года назад
Any video ,same test with lm3886?
@GeorgeDakki
@GeorgeDakki 5 лет назад
hi john! fantastic video! I just wanna ask, would a 24 - 0 - 24 V DC supply 4A suffice for the amp power supply requirements? thanks in advance!
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 5 лет назад
Yes, that would be fine. For 8 ohm loads, +/- 35 v rails for more power.
@GeorgeDakki
@GeorgeDakki 5 лет назад
thanks john!
@alfredosantos5424
@alfredosantos5424 3 года назад
sir good day just like to ask is there any way possible to bridge this amp using this modules and do you have schematic diagram of this boards , more thanks from the Philippines
@abdelfattahakil2619
@abdelfattahakil2619 5 лет назад
Hey John. Can I use two audio outputs(a Bluetooth and a mic preamplifier output) into one amplifier board input?
@Insanejackster
@Insanejackster 3 года назад
Yes you can, all you need is some kind of switch be it rotary or slide or whatever, such that you switch signal in from each source. Or you could manually change wires yourself. Just make sure the device has an output of something above 500mV rms. Lower and you won't get proper gain
@muerto3836
@muerto3836 2 года назад
Can I power that amp using a 15v 10A 100watts DC power supply?
@dragancerimi
@dragancerimi Год назад
can it work on 2x38v, how many watts would you have at 8 ohms?
@davegeorge7094
@davegeorge7094 4 года назад
This chip schematics for slave mode and 200W high eff. w/boost transistors. MOS transistors sound great.
@billkalina3089
@billkalina3089 3 года назад
John, I'm wondering if they sent you authentic chips for the test. I built these boards, and they promptly blew up! I also built a LM3886 kit from AliExpress...same thing. I subsequently built another 3886 amp, using chips from Mouser and they are working great.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 3 года назад
You never know what you are getting. In my case, I think the chips were authentic given the high output power I measured without any smoke :-)
@SuperFredAZ
@SuperFredAZ 6 лет назад
DMOS "D" stands for Depletion Mode (as opposed to enhancement mode, not "diffused"
@mr.amp0076
@mr.amp0076 7 лет назад
John.... I wanted to make one of these.... Can you give me your diagram? With the values of components... Plz... & how much voltage can it take...?
@zarccarsandothertoys.572
@zarccarsandothertoys.572 6 лет назад
Hi John, I am interested in buying this kit, but does it come with proper build instructions? I am a complete novice where it comes to electronics, for example I will have no idea where to install the resistors on the board if they have different values. If there are no proper instructions ,do you know where I may purchase a completed unit.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 6 лет назад
These kits rarely have detailed instructions or anything included at all. The nice thing is the part value is clearly silk screened on the board. You just have to be careful and read the part value carefully before soldering. Also be sure polarized components like capacitors and diodes are in the right way around.
@johnchild61
@johnchild61 2 года назад
Hi guys if anyone interested this was a project in the Elektor Electronics Magazine November 1996 page 44 . search American Radio history should find it there . It uses a TDA7294 same chip configuration as there are 94s 95s 96 all different power levels 50 W 80W 120W same pub board. .as for power you need a Toroidal and 10000uf capacitors keep supply leads short . also recommended is the choke, ten turns on a pencil 18 G with Parallel 10R0 resistor and 100nF and 4R7 in series to ground, A Barkhausen circuit to prevent oscillation with certain loads, as they are not just resistive as in the test! inductance and capacitive play a part as well. would like to see some 1Khz testing otherwise good video
@nikolatesla4030
@nikolatesla4030 Год назад
For Elektor, there is a message "Removed by publisher"
@scottmuckleston3308
@scottmuckleston3308 7 лет назад
The TDA7293 is aimed more for PA amplifier or portable disco amplifier. Impressive power in to 4 ohms at 92 Watts.
@Ziurkyss
@Ziurkyss 7 лет назад
I got about 130w into 4,7 ohms with TDA7294 at 72V before clipping. And about 80 or 90w into 9.4 ohms. (only had 4.7 ohm resistors, so with 4 ohms and 8 ohms there would be even more power). At this power i don't think chip will last long.
@tigerelectronics5966
@tigerelectronics5966 6 лет назад
That's a dang impressive chip! I wonder if I got one maybe it could power my big 18 inch pa subwoofer!
@007007gamer
@007007gamer 4 года назад
Did it work?
@RinksRides
@RinksRides 7 лет назад
DMOS = Dual (Complimentary) Metal Oxide Semiconductor ...also liked n sub'd! :D
@iordanjelqzkov3337
@iordanjelqzkov3337 4 года назад
64 volt +32 -32 volt power ? 92 wat 4 ohms. How many amps am I drawn?
@MarkProffitt
@MarkProffitt 4 года назад
What is the least supply voltage / amperage it needs to work?
@Insanejackster
@Insanejackster 3 года назад
I believe the data sheet says the device turns on at about +-18, with less than 100mA but this would be a BARE minimum
@amitghosh6966
@amitghosh6966 4 года назад
I have a question- 1. What should be the power supply capacity for this amplifier ( Volts and amperage) if powered by unregulated supply like a transformer ? 2. While calculating a power supply for an audio amplifier (voltage and amperage) whether a person should take the maximum Wattage of an audio chip as given on datasheet in consideration or the actual maximum power before Clipping ?
@Insanejackster
@Insanejackster 3 года назад
Actual maximum power is the better metric to use, this just makes sense as noise is completely unwanted. I usually use +-25-35VDC for a 50WRMS design accompanied by proper gauge wiring at least 18 in my opinion. Keep in mind transformer secondaries are always 1/sqrt2 V less than VDC rail voltage. I would use at least 10000uF per rail for proper supply filtration.
@mannytocol2461
@mannytocol2461 5 лет назад
Good Test
@iceberg789
@iceberg789 7 лет назад
awesome !
@tgirard123
@tgirard123 4 года назад
Hey John, just so I'm clear, the total voltage of the chip is the total between the rails and not the voltage per rail? So 50 volts total means 25 volts per rail and NOT 50 volts per rail?
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 4 года назад
That is correct.
@analoghardwaretops3976
@analoghardwaretops3976 3 года назад
Have used upto +/- 36.... NEVER MORE... & with good reliable working in Prof. Audio equipment for 4+ years
@jitendrakumar-ni4ys
@jitendrakumar-ni4ys 5 лет назад
I have a question According to datasheet if more than 50 watt they have suggested a high efficiency circuit. Going away with this is good?
@analoghardwaretops3976
@analoghardwaretops3976 3 года назад
Sinc the output transistors are Mosfets..they can be easily paralled ( more than 1..or 2..TDA7294 ) for higher power. ONLY one pin connect for parallel connect..on each device needs to be connected..... verify which pin from the datasheet.. Also chk. appln. notes on ..paralleling 7294's
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 6 лет назад
Nice!
@randomvideosfromtiktok5583
@randomvideosfromtiktok5583 3 года назад
ANY RECOMENT TRANFORMER FOR THAT AMPLIFIER PLEASE?
@Ali-kk4rp
@Ali-kk4rp 3 года назад
Can you share that pdf , I need to that to make this amplifier without board
@salilmahadik9396
@salilmahadik9396 3 года назад
How does it compare with LM1875 based amplifier in terms of distortion etc. ?
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 3 года назад
I haven't tested to low distortion levels but suspect the 7293 to have lower distortion. This is a higher power rated chip more comparable to the LM3886.
@MarshallSmith27
@MarshallSmith27 6 лет назад
Question John...I thought these amplifiers were AC input thats what the eBay listings say only reason I ask is because you're powering it with your DC power supply. And another question around the 5 minute mark you have 25v by 25v is that considered 50v or 25v together? I'm looking for a transformer.
@MarshallSmith27
@MarshallSmith27 6 лет назад
I'm trying to power it at 50v to get the 60w output and I can't find a transformer. all my searches are coming back with absolutely no returns.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 6 лет назад
There might be a version of this for AC supply but would have a bridge rectifier and large capacitor on the board. If it looks exactly like the one I have in the video, it is split DC supply only (could be mislabeled in the listing). A transformer with a 28-0-28 volt, 4 or 5 amp secondary is what you want for 60w @ 8 ohms stereo (two amps used).
@MarshallSmith27
@MarshallSmith27 6 лет назад
JohnAudioTech Thank you for the reply, I knew it was most likely a typo but needed some clarity as the board I ordered is practically the same as yours. I will be using two boards to get stereo. So I'm looking for a 28v multi tap transformer at 4 or 5. and it is at 8 ohms that i'm going with. does that sound right to you? I'd usually ring my dad or grandfather because they're in this field of work but I can't do that right now. thanks again.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 6 лет назад
Just to be clear, it is a 56 volt secondary with center tap. Typically notated as 28-0-28v.
@omarfiori
@omarfiori 5 лет назад
Alimentazione con 2 linee a 24vdc?
@cyriljosephdeynchausti569
@cyriljosephdeynchausti569 5 лет назад
hi john, i hope you can point me to the right direction, i am planning to build a six channel amp using these kit/ module and i am wondering how can i wire it to a single output bridge rectifier, can i just parallel the supplies or should i have multiple rails?
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 5 лет назад
You can supply all six from one supply provided there is enough current for all six amplifiers. I'd have a supply per two amplifiers. You could have 1 supply for every amplifier, but that could be expensive.
@cyriljosephdeynchausti569
@cyriljosephdeynchausti569 5 лет назад
i highly appreciate the response john, now i can proceed with my sorround sound project
@lordrahulcool
@lordrahulcool Год назад
Can you make guitar amp with it?
@butar12
@butar12 6 лет назад
can you suggest me cheap resistor which doesnt stick to magnet? i have koa speear and beyschlag but it stick to magnet
@tansoehan9005
@tansoehan9005 2 года назад
Why you looking those kind of resistor?
@wesnnytana1549
@wesnnytana1549 4 года назад
hi. just a question. can you make 400W out of 4 of these by combining them? how does it work? thanks
@analoghardwaretops3976
@analoghardwaretops3976 3 года назад
There's the 7294 which I have worked with...very similar power/ voltage rating as the 7293.. The ..94 has a one pin (don't remember which) that's used to connect 2 or more ..94's in // for higher power... not sure if ..93 has it.. except for some protection ckts. , THEY ARE pin compatible..I have used the ..93 in place of ..94 when they were not immediately available.. Check out both data sheets to be 💯% sure... hope thi helps..
@ntoobe
@ntoobe 7 лет назад
What is the pilot signal for and how do you generate your test signal?
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 7 лет назад
I plan to do a video on this soon.
@thechef5531
@thechef5531 6 лет назад
Would you recommend this module for PA use? I plan on building some diy array cabs for my mains. Thanks
@TheStefanM91
@TheStefanM91 6 лет назад
Nice !! how much amperes do i need for tda7294 ?? i ve got + -39v and 2,5 A but lot of distorsion i dont know why
@billkalina3089
@billkalina3089 3 года назад
You should not exceed about 35vd. That's what the datasheet recommends.
@redhytech
@redhytech 28 дней назад
I bought 2 of these preassembled from aliexpress. I opened the first one and connected it to a 12v-0-12v AC transformer. as soon as I turned the power on the tda7293 chip fried. smoked the thing. I believe the chip was bad from the start. I took a few pictures of the amp before I tried to hook it up, and the TDA7293 had several of the legs that looked burnt.. they were darker than all the others. and guess what, that is the side the fried. I'll try the other one later.. it looks ok,, but who knows with these Chinese sellers. there is a few differences, the board I got, has a rectifier built in.
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