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A teacher was fired following controversy over a video showing students styling his hair in the classroom. The video, posted on TikTok and Instagram, sparked debate on its appropriateness, and the ethics of filming and sharing it. The teacher's termination has fed into already ongoing discussions on teachers recording students, the presence of phones in schools, and so much more - so join us as we delve into this topic on this edition of Scroll Deep!
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@selmalarsson8920
@selmalarsson8920 Месяц назад
Teachers should never film their students and post it online, that’s so weird
@AmyAberrant
@AmyAberrant Месяц назад
It’s also against school policy
@C_Griffy
@C_Griffy Месяц назад
I agree. Glad I got through school before all this. Imagine going to school just to be unwillingly a part of someone’s reality show
@Falom
@Falom 11 дней назад
In some places that’s against the law. In BC, Canada we had to sign FOIPPA (Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act) forms to post anything online regarding our Media Arts classes. A teacher doing that would result in soooooooo many lawsuits here lol
@C_Griffy
@C_Griffy 11 дней назад
@@Falom rightfully so it’s so creepy
@hydraian
@hydraian Месяц назад
The doing the hair is fine but not blurring the students' face is a massive problem.
@toericabaker
@toericabaker Месяц назад
nooooo the hair is such an intimate ritual
@nokia9820
@nokia9820 Месяц назад
He shouldn't have filmed it and posted it on the internet
@trippy6183
@trippy6183 15 дней назад
@@toericabakerEver been to a hairdresser…?
@davidletarte214
@davidletarte214 Месяц назад
as a teacher myself yeah this may have been a nice moment at the time but it becomes creepy when it gets sent out to millions of strangers over the internet... don't fire him for the hair stuff, fire him for posting the video online & it seems like that's what happened so. yeah.
@fugitive_
@fugitive_ Месяц назад
Not a teacher but I agree, he definitely didn’t need to share this on tiktok
@fallenbee
@fallenbee Месяц назад
I do think some people were being too dramatic, and that doesn't help the situation. But yeahhh I do think he overstepped by posting their faces and everything.
@leiajiang7877
@leiajiang7877 Месяц назад
Exactly, posting other peoples children online is insanity, he would have exposed them to a world of harm from creeps online. Boundaries are crossed for sure.
@shanna2.2.2
@shanna2.2.2 29 дней назад
You don’t think it’s inappropriate to have his students touching and grooming him..? Crazy.
@shanna2.2.2
@shanna2.2.2 29 дней назад
You don’t think it’s inappropriate to have his students touching and grooming him..? Crazy.
@liamjones468
@liamjones468 Месяц назад
I firmly believe that teacher influencers should never post their students names, faces, voices, or work. You can talk about your experience being a teacher without risking the students you're supposed to be safeguarding
@RariettyC
@RariettyC Месяц назад
I think there's a sad undercurrent to this where people with full-time jobs are often encouraged to monetize their careers through social media due to how tempting the potential extra profit is, and this becomes an issue when so many people are working jobs that require confidentiality. A side hustle is enticing when the cost of living is so high, and teachers generally are underpaid. It's common to forget about the potential risks of filming other people when it's so normalized to just whip out a phone camera without the consent of others nearby.
@julietskelly9135
@julietskelly9135 Месяц назад
that's a great point and well explained
@heathercontreras1586
@heathercontreras1586 Месяц назад
I'm not a teacher or a young student, but I wholeheartedly agree that those students faces should've been blurred. It was most likely a spur-of the- moment thing and maybe they were razzing him about his hair? If I were a teacher I don't think I would've dine this.
@brokenbrastraps
@brokenbrastraps Месяц назад
there were many girls at my school who did teachers hair bc they wanted to be hairdressers and there were teachers who were willing to help them. i think the issue is the fact that it was posted online, this is something that people will always want to see the negative side of things and something like this is obviously gonna cause huge discourse
@bellashannon4694
@bellashannon4694 Месяц назад
In Australia it’s illegal to film kids. Phones are also banned in schools 👍
@kate_6436
@kate_6436 Месяц назад
Teachers aren't supposed to film kids in the US without permission as well. Probably why he got fired
@lelajones404
@lelajones404 Месяц назад
I think it’s a very thin line when I was in school, which was like four years ago there was a substitute who got fired and is barred from substituting because she filmed a student because it’s illegal without parental consent at least in my state.
@katiechamberlin4194
@katiechamberlin4194 5 дней назад
Had a sub film a group of girls during my gym class in hs 😭 creepy asf and he was fired and removed within the day. But even in less extreme cases teachers do not need to film or record students w/o consent 😅
@AmyAberrant
@AmyAberrant Месяц назад
People talking about how the guy was being like family, or how they may not have father figures so he has to fill that role… no he doesn’t! That’s not his job at all! The role of a teacher is not to be a surrogate parent!
@Kaeros77
@Kaeros77 Месяц назад
Yet, plenty of teachers have to fill that role regardless- would you rather the teacher not care, and let that student have no positive role model or adult? Teachers have to go above and beyond their job description and responsibilities constantly. Bonding with students is proven to help students do better in school, and in life in general. It's not weird to bond with students at all. The weird thing is that he posted it, and didn't bother to blur the children's faces. I'm in college to be a teacher. Recording the students is what was wrong. Bonding and being friendly is not wrong- teachers hug students all the time. It's okay for a teacher to actually care about the student. For example, I've had to hold a child while they cried in my arms because no one else in their life was helping them through something, would you rather I have pushed the child away and not helped them calm down?
@eleanorp3202
@eleanorp3202 Месяц назад
All the comments saying it's "weird." It's not weird it's a literal safeguarding issue. 1 - these children are not old enough to consent to having their image online FOREVER. 2 - you need permission to post a child that is not your own. 3 - schools have stringent rules for a reason; they are the caregivers of those children for the period they're in school and have to be overly cautious. 4. You never entirely know the full situation of a child, worst case scenario, you could inadvertently include a child in the background who, for example; is in care/is dealing with the care system; who is having serious family issues; who has maybe been taken away from a parent for safety reasons and you have just broadcasted their location. It is never a teacher's right to post the image (or even to be honest, voice) of a student. They are in your care for their time at school you keep them as safe as possible. I couldn't care less about the hair stuff, create a bond with your students. But when you post it online you lose every bit of sympathy from me.
@maddiedaddy21
@maddiedaddy21 Месяц назад
hello!! education major here. i wouldnt dream of putting the faces of minors online without their guardians' consent.
@iluvcamaros1912
@iluvcamaros1912 Месяц назад
He probably violated a lot of formal written policies. Even if they wanted to "let it slide this time" he did so publicly and loudly. They have no choice but to throw the book at him. Social media + state government job involving kids = bad idea. It's best to just keep it professional and simple at work. Be yourself at home.
@lucystone7637
@lucystone7637 Месяц назад
the weird part is filming it and putting it on tiktok, it's so mad how teachers in the usa are making money off recording their students or recording themselves teaching... i don't think that would be allowed in the uk, especially now AI means you can do nefarious things with such little source material, e.g. a voice, a picture
@kate_6436
@kate_6436 Месяц назад
yeah its definitely at the very least against most schools policies for teachers to post kids online with their faces shown in the US so that probably why he got fired but yeah I also get uncomfortable with teachers filming in their classrooms with kids in there at all. Even if its just their voices
@cclaussen
@cclaussen Месяц назад
Jere Chang (mschanggifted) does it the right way. She kind of acts out hypothetical student scenarios and never shows the kids. The only kids you see are her own sons.
@SienaMW
@SienaMW Месяц назад
I agree with these comments, I think it’s less about the hair more about the filming of children
@vampire_wolf4599
@vampire_wolf4599 Месяц назад
I don’t think it was weird bc to me my highschool teacher was like a father figure, if I was sad he would check in on me and let me give him hugs if I wasn’t okay. We still talk after I graduated and he does this with a lot of his students because he truly cares ab us and it makes it more fun to learn because of that
@IrishTechGirl
@IrishTechGirl Месяц назад
Former teacher.... absolutely not.
@servingcant
@servingcant Месяц назад
I’d go crazy if I found out my child was unbraiding their teachers hair…
@robinkarlsen7113
@robinkarlsen7113 Месяц назад
i come from norway, and so this feels weird for me to see, because teachers here are so kind and friendly towards their students in a way where they feel like friends, so the boundary and respect comments are really culture shock for me. but i agree with the comments that filming without blurring was a bad idea if it were to be published online
@ConejitoPequenito
@ConejitoPequenito Месяц назад
Totally agree with your analysis. There's nothing too weird about hair, but every workplace has rules. I hope that this story won't impact the teachers' career anymore now
@ames-inthe-grass
@ames-inthe-grass Месяц назад
…i agreed with you. but then weird videos of him stitching high school aged girls and being…odd about it
@cerysxox
@cerysxox Месяц назад
i think as well there’s the aspect of we were not there - did the girls volunteer, were they asked to, was it an uncomfortable situation? also filming students is just so weird
@lilissupafly
@lilissupafly Месяц назад
I don't know what the laws/rulea are in the US, but in the UK if you filmed your students and put it online you would most likely be barred from working with kids
@Evanz111
@Evanz111 26 дней назад
I think there is an issue of people looking at very innocent situations and assuming warped intentions. However 100% the issue is a teacher filming kids at his workplace, like that’s not up for debate. He should be setting an example for these kids, and thinking “would the parents be okay with this?”
@ninjagoats3034
@ninjagoats3034 Месяц назад
This RU-vid channel is great. I am surprised you aren't amassing way more views. Don't give up!!!
@elisa2115
@elisa2115 Месяц назад
people making it out to be a creepy thing are weird, but keep tiktok out of the classroom for gods sake
@ninas8210
@ninas8210 Месяц назад
honestly the main problem was filming it, and especially not blurring the students' faces
@thelilunicorn766
@thelilunicorn766 Месяц назад
I once had my (primary school) teacher French braid my hair during lunch time because my mum couldn't figure out how to do it and I needed it braided for a girl guides camping trip lol. I feel like a teacher doing their student's hair isn't that weird so the reverse isn't exactly weird either - I think that filming it and posting it online is what crosses it into a weird territory though.
@5minutememory
@5minutememory 28 дней назад
Very strange that some teachers think it's okay to film kids for their own social media profiles. I don't even like the ones where they film themselves but you can hear what the kids are saying. Stop filming for internet attention and teach!
@meghanmccutcheon3615
@meghanmccutcheon3615 29 дней назад
I definitely feel like the firing had more to do with the posting online of students faces and not protecting their identities, and having done so multiple times
@midnightwolf333
@midnightwolf333 Месяц назад
I hope he got the kids consent to film and post that. I mean I’ve seen so many dance routines in classes on TikTok that this seems like nothing compared to those. I’ve seen ones of a kid going up to teachers and calling them by their first name. This just seems so silly to be upset about.
@KittyZoomZoom
@KittyZoomZoom Месяц назад
As someone that watched cupofteam way back in the day the Scrabble reference made me happy
@Blueleaf11
@Blueleaf11 Месяц назад
Other than the hair thing, he admitted he had a group chat with the students and they would message each other....which is pretty weird....
@BrigidNotBrigit
@BrigidNotBrigit Месяц назад
no. video over haha.
@feltfrog
@feltfrog Месяц назад
i deleted the comment i wrote cos yeah that’s basically it
@manalkazmi82
@manalkazmi82 Месяц назад
I love you mustache man
@RubyRedwood
@RubyRedwood Месяц назад
Consistently entertained, and informed. Well done.
@fungi5350
@fungi5350 Месяц назад
Yeah the blurring is definitely the issue. As a guardian you expect your kids to be protected at school, and some people don’t want their kids online.
@zsht
@zsht Месяц назад
I'm not even comfortable with teachers posting videos of themself with student voices
@AshArAis
@AshArAis Месяц назад
It's hard to show group music activities without a group, and adults simulating children are too ingrained in what they've learned. Choirs, group music-making, I see either a video trained on the teacher only, or on the group but totally blurred
@pshaw8406
@pshaw8406 17 дней назад
I would find it very weird if my child was doing her female teacher's hair if it's not a cosmetology class. I mean, I gave my teacher a massage but it was literally a massage class, I was being graded.
@Thatgayguytimo
@Thatgayguytimo Месяц назад
I’m so confused as why this is an issue? It’s hair?
@isaiahgarcia
@isaiahgarcia Месяц назад
Ha! At 6:55, very funny in forgetting the list of what is wrong. Clearly a reference to the famous gaffe during the 2016 Republican presidential primary when Rick Perry, governor of Texas at the time, said that he wanted to abolish 3 executive agencies, but when asked to name which 3, he forgot which ones! Classic intellectual Benedict! 🧐
@rebecca4722
@rebecca4722 Месяц назад
Scroll deep upload always makes my week!!! 🎉 also I just don’t think you should film your students at all.
@fugitive_
@fugitive_ Месяц назад
I think maybe this might’ve just been a sweet moment to keep to himself. On the comment of never touching a teacher’s hair, one of my teachers in junior high actually let us go to his house and dye his hair for a science project and he had pink balding hair for a few months! But I feel like so many people think they need to share things online for some reason when, like I said, this was probably just a sweet moment the teacher should’ve kept to himself or maybe instead of posting the video just saying something like “a few of my students helped take out my braids and it was a nice bonding moment with them etc.” and I bet those students were probably pretty disappointed that their teacher got fired.
@KatzeMelli
@KatzeMelli Месяц назад
as already mentioned, boundaries have been crossed and things got messy because of that. We have protection laws for underaged humans aka children in place for a reason. I respect him trying to make an effort to build a relationship with the children in his care but filming it and building a brand and social media platform from it, is what doesn’t make it genuine or believable for me. You can do that without exposing children. I understand that in the US the laws revolving taking videos of strangers are vastly different than in Germany (here it is straight up illegal) so I can understand that he doesn’t understand he did something wrong. He claims if the gender roles were reversed there wouldn’t have been an outrage but that is a lame excuse. The reverse, a somewhat attractive female teacher surrounded by 15 year old boys making her hair would still be weird. Overall in the best case he is just naive and immature and the worst case the school kicked a predator out. Either way, i feel for the kids, this guy created a lot of drama due to his own selfishness in their life.
@ZMS463
@ZMS463 Месяц назад
No, not atall. I don't even like the ones where it's during class and you see only the teacher but hear the children. It's inappropriate.
@QuarterMoonRachel
@QuarterMoonRachel Месяц назад
I think you're spot on that the act itself isn't inherently weird but it becomes so when its a teacher (of any gender) because of safe guarding issues. Also, yeah don't film kids. I think teachers filming themselves is ok as long as no kids are visible or identifiable or being mocked in any way but honestly better to just not film that during school hours at all. The only teacher content i really watch is where theres no kids at all, just the teachers telling stories or recreating scenarios acting as kids. The exception to that is music teachers where you can hear kids singing but only ever see the teacher.
@libbygraalum5290
@libbygraalum5290 13 дней назад
Great video! I’d recommend not calling female minors “young women” though, they are children not women 👍
@DaDamuse
@DaDamuse Месяц назад
no, dont film the kids ffs. same goes for any teacher, not just this guy.
@spooky-spaghetti
@spooky-spaghetti Месяц назад
i get the impression there was absolutely no bad intention but it's inappropriate behaviour and recording/posting students who are children is wrong
@AbiSaysThings
@AbiSaysThings Месяц назад
It's not complicated. No.
@kate_6436
@kate_6436 Месяц назад
I don't think there was anything inherently weird with the doing of the hair, but I do wonder how it came about and why those children were after school doing his hair. I don't think it's entirely weird cause when I was a daycare teacher I would sometimes let my elementary school aged kids do my hair if they wanted to. However they were elementary school high School kids might be different. And Its the after school bit thats concerns me a little were they after school just to do that? Did he ask them to do it? Did they ask? Ive got some questions. Thats all a bit wishy washy for me. HOWEVER. The filming and posting online of minor children without a permission slip from the parents is NOT OKAY in the SLIGHTEST. The internet is a dangerous place and it is NEVER okay to pos another persons child without permission. I would be FUMING if those were my children. Parents trust teachers to keep their children safe.
@carlafrancisco590
@carlafrancisco590 Месяц назад
What I think is that the bigger problem is how kids are learning that social approval is more important than connection. Lets say, for example, that my boyfriend would use our personal moments to raise is following on social media, so pretty much every kiss or nice moment would have to be recorded with him being the star of the show .... I'm sad, I'm happy, look at us, look what I did, etc .... was he really having a relationship with me??? Was it about us? So, my problem isn't that he's a teacher, my problem with this, all of this, is how is using this young people for other personal benefits. When you really care about someone else, be it in a romantic relationship, a friendship, or a mentoring, you don't need to post it to the world and hope for it to go viral. This kids, in general, nowadays are really learning a wrong message and becoming detached from honest, real interactions. No wonder mental illness is becoming a problem.
@Kaeros77
@Kaeros77 Месяц назад
Mental illness has always been a very huge issue around the world for a very long time now, it's only just being talked about more, and more awareness is made
@AbeeraImran-sj8gz
@AbeeraImran-sj8gz Месяц назад
What would you do if you were in his shoes? Would you ever stay after school alone with teenagers (opposite gender) and let them do you hair?
@charlottewalker-jolley3865
@charlottewalker-jolley3865 Месяц назад
He just needed to blur their faces and then nothing was bad
@jessicaadami3499
@jessicaadami3499 Месяц назад
i think the only problem is him posting videos of his students
@nellieratt
@nellieratt Месяц назад
He’s the teacher- it’s inappropriate. Also, please don’t take or post any content ever….
@freebeerishere
@freebeerishere Месяц назад
I'd play Scrabble at your house
@BreezyStreamy
@BreezyStreamy Месяц назад
"Don't film your students" These kids probably filmed a tik tok as soon as he was done recording, do y'all really think his reach was that much bigger than theirs? As a teacher, yeah, let's be smarter, but let's not act like this is some massive crime. We gotta stop reacting to this stuff like we would have if things were the same as when we were in school, because they're just not. As far as the them doing his hair or whatever else, it's hard for me to really judge without audio (I may look up the original tik tok later to see more), but it's poor judgment at worst in my opinion, and I say this as a Bachelor's in Sciences and Education graduate. As for doing his hair, sure, it's probably poor judgment, but I feel like you can resolve this with a meeting and maybe a suspension for a day or two, but firing seems way over the top unless their had been previous incidents with him.
@kate_6436
@kate_6436 Месяц назад
the kids choosing to film themselves is VERY different from him a trusted non related adult filming them without parental permission
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