Tech job requirements in 2023 

but it is a highly plus

Noone has one, but we all think it's easy to get. However the registration button/form might not even work. Noone has ever tested it.

they might use Linux 😂

Because 7zip exists. (The Linux of file compression ;-) /jk

@@recklessroges ironic considering xz and gzip

just shows how disconnected is hr with tech requirements

@@sadaakisz HR in Tech is so horribly broken it should be illegal. A lot if not all of the problems with hiring devs in the tech industry would be solved if HR was competent in what is realistic for devs to know.

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@@sadaakisz There is still this absolutely stupid sentiment that "bigger number make programmer go brrrr". In reality the years of experience you have on your job doesn't say jackshit about how competent of a developer you are. I've met people while studying CS that have never worked in IT but have just been hacking away for 15 years privately. Those people are able to come up with complex hashmap algorithms in less than 20 minutes. Meanwhile I've seen other people who've actually worked in programming environments struggle to find their C: drive on their computer. People seriously need to reevaluate how they go about finding good devs. Posing the 6713th question about a "good sorting algorithm" is definitely not how to go about it.

@@guyonlead Not even joking by the way: That tweet still exists and I'd link it if RU-vid would let me.

Bingo!

They always do...

I've explicitly been told "entry to the company". Thus, they can require a MS / Doctorate for minimum wage, because aren't you so glad you get to join??

@@doublepinger If the company's entry-level position has high requirements such as multiple years of experience, they shouldn't advertise as entry-level. People with those requirements aren't going to bother to look at a job labelled that way.

@@doublepinger What @Traveller said. Also, academics tend to have very low salary expectations, limited private sector work exp, and a massive, looming student debt load. Companies - and universities! - that hire academics for their expertise know all this, and basically see them as a prime target for exploitation.

"Junior full-stack DevOps" = be our entire IT dept, sysadmin, and development team, for little to no-pay. I tell juniors to avoid that crap - sure you'll learn things, you'll learn how to be overworked and make some other guy rich.

*for a whole IT department

@@mandisaw avoiding it is not gonna get you anywhere lmao. just don't stay too long. I started out at 15/hr got overworked then moved to a 75/hr contract to hire position in 2 years because I went through hell to get there. Or you can just do nothing and be lazy then bitch about never being able to get a sr position

@@mandisaw I just did an internship and there was a basically one guy running the entire IT department. Man was making 30k a year with 6 years of experience in that company. He was the entirety of IT, but also had to dev the entire iot services and a website to access those services. He's leaving next month gonna get 40k.

@@stt.9433 I really hope that's not in the US because 40K is still not much at all for that level of skill and experience.

It's been 4 days since this comment, god knows how many JS FRAMEWORKS have went in and out of fashion in that time

LOL brill

Maybe we should write a new JS framework that keeps track of other JS frameworks....

Don't forget the new devops cloud platform released by Ford thats the best thing ever... it came out last week and if you don't know it back to front, you're a total l0ser

Been 6 months since this comment, so at least 10 years of experience in them are now strictly required.

Meanwhile the team: **one person**

Different AND incompatible!

The engineers are great! The CTO is a nightmare.

That's bad management right there. Let programmers do what they want and you end up with a dozen languages to support.

Bleeding Edge... and by bleeding edge, I mean along the forehead.

I am confidently on track to have 15 years of experience as a junior developer.

I am sorry for your lost

Must have a CS Degree and have atleast 3 years experience in every JS library ever released... salary based on experience starting from $30 000. WE have a comprehensive interview process with 8 steps, bring your own laptop and be prepared for us to waste your time just so we can tell you that you didnt make it to the final round of interviews.

​@@brendan8915 You're being exploited then lol you are definitely not at a junior level at that point and should get paid accordingly

@@buschwichtel Bro believe me, I know. Actually have a new job interview tomorrow.

*masters in computer engineering is a bonus

*also please attach a link of your most recent Ted Talk video, and guest speaking speech at Harvard. Also be willing to work flexible schedule possibly weekend, $18/hr pay plus benefits*

@@hughle9617 Also were short on cash this month so could you loan us 50 grand, and the building maintenance team hasn't been hired yet so also knowledge of basic plumbing and woodwork a must have.

I saw a job post like this but they also said "internship experience does not count" or something along those lines.

@@ItsJustEthan1 remember 2021, an every single company started hiring just about anybody with a beating heart. I feel like we should go on strike in all industry like shut down economy like 2020 for employees to be valued again.

Yep - you'll be the only engineer in the entire company. Probably the janitor, too.

Because you are over-qualified then

@@mynechan No, because nobody care. They just want to pay nothing for a high skill person.

Yes this whole indurstry is fucked in the head. The level of arrogance from corporate is out of thjs world

🤣🤣🤣

lmao

I heard Agile? lol

Seems reasonable. I have 5+ Years experience in an Azure environment; I started setting up my Azure Devops environment about 5 years ago, and it's almost kinda functional. Next 5 years I plan to chat with the Microsoft licensing consultants to see if either of us can figure out how I should pay

😂😂😂

Neapolitan JavaScript...

Sort of like Doom ports!

"whateverJS" - my boi Jack Borrough.

At this point, JavaScript comes in any flavour you would ever need...

"С sharp, C sharper"

lol... "extensive experience" on all of those! 🤣

totally agree it's so pathetically bad that I started pondering on the idea if it's just best to start working on my own software products that I could potentially bring to market instead.

@@LogicPhilosophy Most of the job ads i see even for junior developers (which are supposed to be no experience positions, and i don't really count coding exercises in university as 'experience') i see 'extensive experience' with x,y,z which is insane.

Just graduated with a BA in Graphic Design/front-end development. Data Visualization sounds like my area. I suck at math but I'm actively learning SQL and PHP. Maybe my hopes and dreams are gone.

it's not really a market when dumb businesses with all the money can hire PhDs burdened with student debt, East Europeans fleeing war, Asian students who want and would even pay to stay in the country. market implies choice, this is just serving (often incompetent) masters who would have gladly not paid anyone at all, but have devs running away from them and internal IT house of cards collapsing under its own weight with tech/software ever more quickly becoming obsolete, etc. wonder how history books would reflect on these dark ages. so much art and discovery delayed in this political ratrace

Ah but there is more.. S.W.I.F.T. was also an internal Wank of America methodology!

But you must be from Belarus or Russia

The is also swift the storage spec.

You also have to be a previous semi truck driver for swift transportation aswell

and a mechanic for their Suzuki fleet of company vehicles.

AI full stack 😂

@@majormoody and junior at that. That is actually crazy.

Not as bad as the listing that wanted 7 years swift experience... 3 years after swift was released

How can someone have 10+ years of experience in AI that's only recently become available?

@@kxmode they need to be far into the future enough that time travel is possible, need to have 10 years in experience in AI, then go back in time for some reason to apply for that specific job. Idk.

15 years ago people were still seriously using Internet Explorer

Boy do I have news for you. HTML5 is 16 years old.

Now that the genie is out of the bottle, everyone is a 10+ year data scientist.

Do you get to wear a white lab coat?

@@thzzzt you don't have to wear lab coat to be a data scientist... Even as a joke, that's a bad one you spouted there.

@@thzzzt Well my company is pretty relaxed about work from home, so I can wear whatever I want. But no, as someone who mines and cleans data for a living, I'm usually wearing a hard hat with a flashlight and thick gloves.

@@GSBarlev safety first!

I see that a lot of people are doing hundreds monthly

Try 30+ a day. That’s what I’m doing

@@griffin3706 i call bs on that, there is no way youre finding 900+ job offers a month unless you repeatedly apply for the same one at the same company

@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash I’m applying to 30 a day. Gotten 5 replies so far

@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Yh also unless its the exact same job every single time, at the same company your going to have to edit and tailor your application every time.

add one more year to everything and set this up

Especially if he says “arbitrary buzzwords” 😂

he literally did: 1:48

He literally pulled out "Fortnite" as a requirement

@@Bonemannes It wasn't. he misread it then corrected himself. He thought it was at first.

@@taramaforhaikido7272 I wouldn't be surprised tbh, last time I checked some Unis still put Fortran 66 as part of their program. Shit knows why should I learn a punched cards old ass programming language but whatever

I remember seeing job advertisements requiring 5 years of java ...java was only one year old at the time, lol

The trick is not hiring anybody at all. Instead they can say "they tried" and hire somebody overseas for dirt cheap and abuse them to hell because of the threat of deportation....

@@markgreen2170: Java Version 1? From 1996? :D

They don’t “find” employees. They put up a bogus listing, interview and then reject anyone who applies before going to the government to claim the talent they need doesn’t exist state-side. They get a grant for a visa, hire someone from India or Pakistan fresh out of university, hold onto their passport and then pay them less than minimum wage. Under threat of deportation, their new “employee” can’t quit, complain, or ask for a raise. As soon as they stop being useful-they’re gone. And they find someone else desperate enough to take them up on the offer. This isn’t just happening in web development or just in the US, this is an ongoing crisis of corporations addicted to cheap labor who hold no obligation to the societies in which they operate. This isn’t some anti-globalism dog whistle either, they’re treating good people trying to make better lives for themselves like slaves for their bottom line and the government is just letting them do it. It’s genuinely disgusting.

3 months later they'll either remove the posting because they never hired anyone, or finally lower the requirements and get a significantly worse candidate

....just because it exists

Machine learning is because you need to teach the machine how to develop their next web app so that they don't need to hire someone anymore.

sad

Have you landed one yet?

where are you living? because in my city, I can find in 3min an interesting job with a bachelor/ masters degree in cs

@@sixstanger00 i guess the advent of ai would change things up a bit

@@Jubinmail AI can't write clean code.

same

Switch careers. It can be done.

@@lawrencemanning I am literally switching carreers training to become a chartered accountant after a Masters in comp sci and being a web dev and sysadm for a few years. That's right, got bored of IT so switching to accounting. Either something is very wrong with IT, or something is very wrong with me. Potentially both.

@@counterleo tired of people, eh?

is there a way to answer that question that would imply there's something better than people out there, somewhere? like people 2.0? please?

Or the opposite: "Senior Programming level position" "Salary: 45k /yr"

Exactly they have technologically illiterate management and want some desperate idiot to plead to their cause for a measly wage. If they're recrutement process isn't serious, then it's a major red flag. I always wondered if a company has these listings because : 1. makes the company look more healthy but they don't actually have the resources to hire 2.Might benefit them in terms of taxes and 3.HR wants to look like they're doing their job.

Or they already lost most of their IT staff due to low pay and a toxic work environment and hiring one sucker who does the work of a whole team for the two thirds the salary of a normal developer looks good on paper and therefore MUST be a sane and realistic business descision.

Or they're just trying to get a bargain. They want you to do the work of the 8 people they let go a few months ago and now nobody knows how to reset the CTO's password anymore because the last guy who remembered the master password got laid off.

yeah they'll happily offer him a junior position

@@0biwan7 Only if they can't hire him as an unpaid intern.

Chocolate Javascript is fast, optimized, and delicious 😆 🍫

My company deploys Chocolate JS with Chocolatey package manager for the ultimate sweet-tooth stack

I think the only option is to ignore the listed criteria and apply to junior roles anyway.

Now it's even worse than ever. And you know what? I started respect Marx even more, because he perfectly describe situation with capitalism, where is everyone sees you not as a human but an instrument for profit

@@omegarekrut Yep! Private property, and thus the capitalist system, is predicated on the alienation of the worker from their labor. This is as true today as it was in the 19th-century!

Nowadays companies do not pay for the skill level you have, but for the wage you could be getting in a different company.

Dont do internships. Period. They are a scam to allow companies to avoid hiring more people. By doing interships you are actively making the horrendous job market worse.

Imma start lying if they don’t stop gate keeping. Might even check that disability box if it helps

@@GovindaA its anoying isnt it. They ask you if you identify as a million genders and races, then exspect you to have 5 plus years experience in everything.

@YoursV that is always the other problem, its usually based off if they like you, or some cases if youre attractive, since most HR are young women

@@lastninjaitachi manlets and whitoids stand no chance

@@MrViki60 bruh i am 5'6 living on hard mode

I barely got a job. And it was because of a bootcamps indian connections

Do some projects for yourself, times will get better. Learning aws helped me to get my first job.

I feel it. Graduated in July of last year with my bachelors in Software Development. I did some job interviews initially but then like…..nothing. For 2 out of the 3 final round interviews, they specifically said “it’s gonna be between you and some guy with X amount of experience “, guy with experience won both times. Now it’s just radio silence. I’m stuck at my retail job. I too feel like I completely wasted my time, and every time I have a bad day, I think it’s my fault for not having done more. We’ll get there soon man. Keep the faith and keep on coding! Gotta keep sharp for when opportunity knocks, you gotta be ready

More often its that they want to bring in an H1B but the rules say they have to put an ad out for the job first.

Yeah, I've seen that done in my department (I wasn't in Software Development at the time). The job requirements were awfully specific and, when it comes to the required experience, delusional: 10+ years, when I had gotten the job with 0 experience a couple of years prior. Turns out it was someone's acquaintance that they wanted to hire and all that experience amounted to nothing, because he was asking me for help and advice about how to do his job.

That person added 2 more years to everything.

@@vectoralphaAI And by that time C-sharpest was released and that person had already 5+ years of experience of it.

Some people have told me that they just put those requirements up there to see if your willing to take a risk. I'm just thinking this is how you end up with a staff of liar's 🤷‍♂️

@@HarryBallsOnYa345 Probably the point. To see if you have the balls to challenge them and call them into question. It's a test. Well, that and bad habit. It's both. Either way honesty is what's important. Good communication skills will always be the number one focus. Because without that whatever the job is will fall apart. If their communication is "Bullshit with excuses" then challenge it. Find out more. Make valid counter arguments. Worst case scenorio, you don't get hired. Best case scenorio, people that try not to get hired, get hired. Because they don't stand for bullshit. Treat it like a realationship in other words. Trust me on this one. I got a partner and we make it work because conflict keeps people honest. Boss fire you? Keep asking them questions. Keep pushing for communication. They'll either hire you to stop taking up their time, or they'll actually see you as persistent enough to get results. If that doesn't work then unification I suppose. It's the one thing people with power fear. Because you can't buy back a ruined reputation. Reputation in turn affects sales. So in a sense you can use a companies greed against them. Companies that get absorbed into bigger companies also end up dying off. It's by design. Think about how EA does it. It's like that. EA takes over other gaming companies to have the half baked unpolished mess on release and they want that because they see the smaller companies as a threat to them. So instead of risking competition they buy them off. Under the guise of "helping" them. Which is exactly what happens with job companies as well. This is only a fraction of what they get up too. HR is another can of worms. They'll trick you into signing a "handbook" to sign about not being able to sue them. I've never had a job and I know all the traps. Because I do research and play the system instead of letting it abuse me. No rat race for me.

@@AverageVirgo better start learning C-sharpester before it's released to get ahead of the curve

16.8 was the Hooks update, after which we don't use classes to write components anymore. Unless you're some kind of sicko 😂 So yes, calling out 16.8 is a thing.

Hence at least one requirement for a tech that's so new it hasn't come out of beta yet, and would never be encountered in-production unless you work for that company. He should bust out that grey beard again and do an "Interview with an age 55 developer"

@@mandisaw Well I once got denied for a job, because they were afraid I wouldn't be able to learn the new API they were using, which I invented... So they always come up with something it seems. :D

"you're overqualified for the job" which translates to: "we weren't actually expecting someone like this to show up, we're just tricking juniors who don't know any better into feeling inadequate so that we can pay them less"

@@peezieforestem5078 I told my old boss a few months into my current job, that it's not like he's/they're paying me for all of my skills & experience, they have a job, I do it, and they kind of get whatever extra skills/exp I have as a freebie.

I quit my math degree during the plague and just got a cdl. Ill go back to college later but online only. Im never setting foot on a physical campus again.

with those 3+ years of experience, you're not a junior dev anymore 💀

@@thegeth4293 Did you get a truck driving job? How do you like it? I'm finishing a CS degree, and I'm seriously debating whether I should go to grad school or truck driving school next.

@@jimmyjakes1823 truck driving sucks, i did it for 1 month then quit to deliver pizza at my old job, im very overweight and im putting my life on hold until that changes. When i accomplish that goal, im gonna entoll in western governors university for CS. Having a cdl means you will never be out of work, but after my brief experience, i would only do it if my only other option was mcdonalds or warehouse work. Trucking to me is a last resort job now.

I once had a recruiter call me up to offer me a 6-month internship during which time they would teach me how to use C# and even pay me with a third of the money I was already making as a full-stack dev in a terrible startup. I had 5 years C# experience.

At this rate, big tech is gonna crash. Might want to just find a job that works and hang on tight

They mass-fire when they are terrible at hiring, yes. The bloat being cut are people that lied about their usefulness, got hired without knowing what the company actually needs, or they simply have become less speculative/expansive (less work, less people). It would be better to just talk to leadership and devs if you have the entry-level charisma, politic & communication skill to learn about what they actually need and convey your competence (how you fit in). Any corporate job is hell if you are helpless in the face of gatekeepers. lol

That's right, actual companies don't like little woke communists who wish to do nothing while moaning about life's hardships. Surprise surprise.

they want a necromancer thrall to do their dev-ops.

super rough :( , hang in there dawg i hope you can get something you deserve.

@@lovely-shrubbery8578 thanks. Ultimately though I've never cared about money and never will. I've been poor my whole life and don't really mind if it stays that way. Video games are a cheap hobby. Would be neat to buy rich people food like blueberries and raspberries and such though. Which, admittedly, sometimes I do partake in some retail therapy and buy pistachios, yogurt, and beef jerky but that isn't the norm.

I’m glad I have well-connected parents who shoehorned me into an job.

"nobody wants to work any more" and "It's so hard to find qualified candidates" = subtext: for such crappy pay/benefits

Don't worry you will find one, just be patient 😄

@@loertishahini3419 apperceiate that, thank you ❤️

Good luck, homie! It was rough for me as well. Just gotta latch unto anything you can find and start building that work experience. But be sure to accept strictly software engineering roles that will grow your career and not anything else in tech (god knows its flooded with all kinds of positions).

@@maximpetrossian2513 thank you for the encouragement man, and Ive seen many roles outside of software engineering that pay well but i know will hinder my career in the future, share whatever tips or things you did to get your first position

@@techkid10194 Network with people in your area. Go to local hiring events/booths. I got my foot through the door with a small startup that I discovered through a friend. Don't be afraid of taking a role in a small company that doesn't pay at industry level. But don't get too comfortable in one once you find it. Keep studying and learning and searching for the next big thing :)

same thing here, was hired for a embedded programming position, I was open about the fact that I'd just graduated from EE and that I basically knew nothing about programming, was told that I looked motivated and that if I thought I could do it, the job was mine, three years later I'm a embedded systems engineer...

This comment smells like a lie

@@StarboyXL9 🥲🤥

Yeah guys. And here I am, coding for myself since school. And you with the stories "They saw my motivated face and I got in, basically knew nothing".. No offence, but it just frustrates me

@@malikvalley It was definitely a ton of luck. I know there are people who started earlier than me and are better than me, not having as much luck as I have. I really hope you can find something good, soon. But yeah, I can understand it’s frustrating, I’m sorry.

And then give you no equity...

Aka proficient in shell and C

@@tykjpelk I thought its what rust users call themselves either way it didn't fit the stack at all.

You mean: what a time to be alive!

This. This exactly.

The reverse is also true. I've recently been to a technical interview for a "Junior PHP & Laravel Developer", but all they talked about during the interview was front-end and Vue.js. Turns out that they didn't even use Laravel! Like... WHAT???

Don’t quit developing your skills

End of current tech rush? I heard the same 10 years ago, when I just started working

Where are you located and do you have a portfolio and linkedin page? I might be able to help (but no guarantees)

I mean you did projects so yes

💸

I don't know man, my first developer job was really difficult to get, but since then I've been inundated with recruiters the last 3 jobs. It's getting your foot in the door that's tough.

And the pitch changes from C, D, E, F 😂 🎼

@@mandisaw He could have continued with C sharp and C sharpter too, which would just be D