Technics SL-1200G v Bergmann Audio Magne Turntable SHOOTOUT [4K] 

Thx, Simon. Michael is way older than me with more tech experience lol j/k. He’s a great guy, a good friend, and I’ve seen his excellent video. I will look into that technique. Anything’s better than room reflections, crappy mics and 128. I’m learning. All the very best, Anthony

@@AudiophiliaChannel If I remember correctly, his Continuum was clearly better, but the cost! I now would consider the 1200G as a base unit used for comparison purposes to see what you get when you spend more on a turntable. It's a good standard(finally-compared to older direct-drives).

Of course, ‘live’, and now over a longer time frame, the differences are widening. But, that said, the Technics is a very fine turntable. I’m enjoying the review process. Our review will be up late February. All the best...

Delusional.

Thank you for the kind words.

Thank you for the kind words. We never forget at Audiophilia how lucky we are to audition and play with all the great equipment. Cheers…

Working on it. But, damn, the copyright strikes.

Yea. Probably too busy listing the cables he used to notice.

What the fuck are you prattling on about...one needing and the other not needing high-end components. If you stick a shit cartridge on either and play them through shit components, they'll both sound shit. Stick a £1k plus cartridge on either and play them through mid to high-end components, they both sound great...but the further along the path of high-end components you go, the superiority of the Bergmann will become apparent. As for set-up, one is no more fiddly than the other. If you want to talk fiddly, try an old Syrinx pu2 tonearm...but once you get it right, mmmmmmmm.

@@AnUndisclosedLocation I could respond using foul language like you ,but that would bring me down to your level . I hope your day gets better.

@@peterstudley1804 Foul language to the illiterate, extended vocabulary to the educated. As for level: IQ, the top 0.27%; retired at 38; a stunning wife who can't keep her hands off my ripped bod; split my time between beaches and ski resorts. You dream of having a day as good as every one of mine. As your teachers and women always said, try again.

@@AnUndisclosedLocation education or indoctrination, you choose, and after all self recommendation is no recommendation at all .

Through £50k speakers fed by £50k amps, you'll obviously be shocked by just how big a difference there is.

A rubber mat before $100k rig is an epic ... )

I’d try something simple and metal like the VPI. But personally, like the Rega, I find the Technics sound better without special mats or any clamp.

@@AudiophiliaChannel Thnx a lot I saw someone using Oyaide head clamp and mat in 1200 G.Anways many thanks will get back to you for your suggestions.

Me too. A lot better actually.

There is no way of telling which sounds better unless you're in the room. As for dull, that's called natutral, not overly bright, which the Technics most certainly is.

Both such different ‘tables. Me, I’d go for the Rega by a hair, but the Technics is also fabulous. Maybe save a little more and get the Rega 10. An outstanding turntable.

I like the rega alot I just like the fact of switching cartidges with ease, decisions decisions

@@gerardopadilla4393 let me know which one you decide. Good luck 👍👍

My wife surprised me with the 1200g for Christmas can't wait to set everything up

@@gerardopadilla4393 how wonderful. Let us know how you like it.

I’ll try and get an answer for you.

My friend, a Technics dealer says best to contact your dealer to get it perfect. I must admit, setting up the Technics is pretty straightforward. Good luck. Wish I could be more help.

Also all new 1200 come with an added wieghts that screw on to the back of the tonearm. They should only be used with heavy cartridges. The Denon DL110 is not heavy enough to warrant the extra weight use. Some people have added this weight after balancing the arm which could also produce the error indicated.

I also tried the ortofon 2m blue with the ortofon supplied and continue to have the same issue

@@AudiophiliaChannel I was able to fix it I had to put a record on the turntable and balance the tonearm that way I'm up and running thank you for all your help brother Happy New Year stay safe

Will do. Thank you

This. I appreciate that he mentioned it but with the limitations and multiple weak links here this is just useless in trying to assess anything. Listening to sound that's going thru a chain that includes a phone as a mic, and ends up with 128kbps audio isn't something that should be a caveat, it should tell you just don't even do it.

The vagaries of room reflection, my early mic setup (better now) and RU-vid 128 kbps! The Technics is a great, value added turntable and will grace any audiophile’s setup. But it can’t compete with the weight, dynamics etc of the Bergmann.

А король то голый,

You can get very similar performance with the lower priced Technics models which are also a great price for modding.

Yes... someone else is doing the stealing.

I see your point about the cost , but what needs to be looked at is the gorgeous little technics sl 1200g is going up against the Giants in the turntable world and not being disgraced , I bought mine in Feb 21 when I was out of work, it's a great record spinner and the residuals will be high should I ever decide to sell it , something that would never happen to a hanpin super OEM.

Spot on sir.

A bog standard Technics SL-1200Mk2 (you don't need a 1200G like in the video) beats out a Linn Lp12 in every measureable aspect. Lower wow and flutter, better SNR ratio, lower rumble. The cogging everyone talks about in regards to direct drive turntables is largely a myth and certainly not something that would be an issue with the 1200's or other similar DD models. If cogging were a problem it would show up when measuring wow and flutter. Cogging might have been a problem on really cheap plastic direct drives with simpler motors and less than ideal power supplies. But not on better decks like the 1200's. The LP12 is nice and has the vintage-y high end turntable look down though. But it was practically obsolete the day it was introduced in the early 70's. Linn being a small operator could afford the engineering talemt, the R&D or the machinery necessary to develop a direct drive of their own. Instead they relied on agressive marketing a nationalistic (and ad revenue dependent) British high-fi press. British high-fi journalists did their part promoting domestic brand like Linn, Rega and the rest by making up silly arguments saying belt drive turntables are superior to DD´s although measurement cleary shows it isn't. Again, the Linn LP12 is a solid deck and looks like the ideal mental image of record player. It's good enough (and crazy expensive) but it's not better (at anything) than a nice direct drive like the SL-1200 or higher-end DD offerings from brands like Sony, Denon or JVC.

@@felixfranzen7578 my ears don't lie so we'll have to agree to disagree. My Garrard 401 is laughing 🌚 #FATMAN SOUND SYSTEM TOTTENHAM LONDON

@@zukispur5493 Like I said, the Linn is a nice table as so is the Garrard 401. They don't measure as well as good DD like the SL-1200 (or even better ones like a Sony PS-X800). But they are good enough and keep the wow and flutter below audible levels and the rumble/SNR is probably better than the actual vinyl medium so not really a limiting factor either. I guess we can agree to disagree. I would be interesting to know how you confirmed the Garrard and Linn's superiority over the Technics though. Did you compare them side by side using the same exact cartridge? How did you do the switching between sources? Did you match the levels to +/- 0.1dB? If the comparison went something like "I heard a Technics at a trade show or a friends house and then went home and listened to my Linn" it wont say much. That's how people come to the absurd conclusion that there are differences between different cables (other than turntable cables) or that you can tell digital sources with flat frequency response and low distortion apart by sound alone. But it wont matter what I think. You have good stuff. I would like to own a Garrard myself (and a idler drive Lenco) for historical reasons. They're cool pieces. I wouldn't ever pay for anything flogged by that reactionary charlatan at the helm of Linn though.

@@felixfranzen7578 big luv bruva. ❤👍