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Technics SL 220 Turntable Tune Up 

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I checkout and repair a Technics SL-220 turntable suffering from unstable speed control.

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@SRFMF
@SRFMF 3 года назад
appreciate somebody else opening it up so I could compare the guts of my own SL220; so thanks for that. -- ,also you showed me how to reattach belt thanks very much. I kept the lid on which made flipping it over a snap but does kind of get in the way if you are trying to see how the arm interacts with the machinery on the underside, which is important with this old style cueing type tone arm.
@golgothadiver
@golgothadiver 4 года назад
Despite all the impressive meters on show, this came across as a shambles; chaotic and unprofessional. It made me think of almost a complete amateur, just 'having a go' at fixing a deck, with no real idea what they were doing at all. I lost count of all the OMG moments, including repeatedly dumping the stylus onto the record, and simply inverting the whole deck (unprotected) to work on it. I'm glad I wasn't paying this guy to work on my deck...but I feel a whole lot better about just doing the work myself now - so thanks for that!
@akronman27
@akronman27 3 года назад
I can't even make it through this video! So many things he's doing wrong I just can't take it! Plus that new belt looks way too tight. That'll do more damage than good.
@Travefun8238
@Travefun8238 3 года назад
@@akronman27 I know... Amozon belts are way.... Too tight. I've been fooled twice now. The true FBM23.6 Flat Belt, Medium 23.6 Inch belts for the SL models can be found on Turntable Needles.com. I got 2 for $22.
@DirectorShowOff
@DirectorShowOff Год назад
My collegeSL-220 I've had for 44 years was no longer able to set the pitch control accurately. I watched this, disassembled the unit, sprayed the two potentiometers with wd40 and voila, they work like a charm again. I guess if they stop working again I would try the deoxit mentioned in the comments below. For now I'm very happy and grateful!
@zapwatt
@zapwatt 2 года назад
You guys ever wondered where all of the scuff marks on old record players came from? Yeah, I used to wonder too until I watched this video. Damn.
@gsgleason
@gsgleason 2 года назад
WD-40 on potentiometers seems like a horrible idea.
@aaronmccutcheon
@aaronmccutcheon 3 года назад
That grease was purposely put there. You should have noticed it was right at the point the plastic parts moved against each other.
@fredmuehter3307
@fredmuehter3307 3 года назад
Jim, very instructive video, appreciate the macro camera shots! I've got an old Technics SL 220 with similar issues. My belt looks shot as well, any recommendations on where to obtain a replacement belt. I've heard a lot of belts sold on eBay are junk. Appreciate any recommendations. Thanks.
@djeepee
@djeepee 5 лет назад
Oh boy.....wearing a ring and a metal watch near an electrical device and a bottle of WD40 on the desk shows some real craftsmanship ;-)
@Steve-mx1iy
@Steve-mx1iy 4 года назад
Nice try but it wasn't plugged in.
@phillipfiorini7257
@phillipfiorini7257 5 месяцев назад
Jim, thank you for this video. Out of nowhere, my Technics SL-230 turntable suddenly starting skipping on most of my albums, even newer vinyl. Have done the proper adjustments with checking the TT’s tracking force and anti-skate settings and cartridge alignment. Even moved the cartridge (Audio-Technica-VM95C) to my backup TT, a 504 Dual, and it worked fine on albums that had been skipping on my Technics. Tried the F3+ Grado cartridge from the Dual TT and the albums continued to randomly skip. So I know it’s mechanical with the Technics. Just not sure. Any suggestions?
@brikaf6001
@brikaf6001 11 месяцев назад
great vid, thank you!
@dirkvantroyen9170
@dirkvantroyen9170 4 года назад
Oh man, the weight of the turntable on that center spindle. I'm sorry but this is indeed very hard to watch. Also, putting the stylus on the table with the needle first?
@2010stoof
@2010stoof 3 года назад
I have an old sl-b202 and I haven't seen it yet, but it was my step mom's father's. My dad has it. He said the motor making a sound. I bought a belt just in case that's on the way, but could it just need a clean, regrease and maybe some oil in bearing?
@vaniostefanov3576
@vaniostefanov3576 4 года назад
Never use WD 40 for a cleaning !!!
@LUFCOZZY
@LUFCOZZY 10 месяцев назад
especially electronics ffs
@craiglabreche9902
@craiglabreche9902 3 года назад
From what I have learned there are two sets of bearings in the tone arm and the adjustment requires special tools . Does Gimbal make any sense? Anyway I enjoyed the video , many thanks
@craiglabreche9902
@craiglabreche9902 3 года назад
I have this turntable and cannot tighten the tone arm which has become lose , evidently special tools are required . Any Sugggestions Many Thanks
@renzsalcedo1776
@renzsalcedo1776 Год назад
hi jim whats the size of the belt for sl220 is it same sie withsl230?
@mgsamps
@mgsamps 4 года назад
I could do with some help with a second hand SL220 I got cheap. I am getting very dull sound ie; virtually no treble frequencies, I am using a Project phono Box mm, newish AT95E with about 20 hrs on it feeding a Cambridge CX60 amp & Monitor Audio Silver 200's. The cartridge is set up perfectly, aligned with a protractor, tracking weight is 2 grams, anti skate etc 2g, arm is parallel with the record so VTA seems good. Have tried various brands of Phono interconnectors from the phono Box to the Amp but it sounds terrible. Listening to all the 220's with AT95's on youtube they all sound vibrant with plenty of treble bite but mine sounds as if someone has turned the treble control to min. whats going on here, I don't understand. I've had some great TT's over the years and they all sounded great but this one sounds all wrong. I don't think there's a fault with the Project Phono Box as I just upgraded it from an older Monacor phono amp, got same result. Wires on cartridge are correct and stylus is clean and fully inserted into body. All my records are in excellent condition so I'm baffled, anyone have any idea???
@airjordan021
@airjordan021 Год назад
My sl220 is stuck on auto return…please help!!! How do I fix it? Everytime i go to play it just return back to home
@poopinlumpy
@poopinlumpy 3 года назад
The drive motor on my Technics SLB 202 gives an rather loud clicking noise. Local audiophile shop quoted about £150-£170 for repair, and I said no to that. There must be a way to resolve this. Some online research indicates defective governor in the motor. Any bright ideas anyone? Thanks.
@aaronmccutcheon
@aaronmccutcheon 3 года назад
Please start using deoxit (or the like) on vintage gears' pots as a matter of course, even if something else fixes the issue. Wd-40 doesn't remove oxidation very well at all and it evaporates completely in a week or two. Deoxit is incredible at removing oxidation and it's lube is long lasting.
@clifperry4677
@clifperry4677 3 года назад
OMG! You used WD40 to clean potentiometers? Bad, Bad, Bad. spend a couple bucks and get some real control cleaner.
@mauriceprudhomme5296
@mauriceprudhomme5296 Год назад
i just got one of these for $60. I've had a Technics B-2 before I think this is nicer with the front cue controls
@otakuholly8885
@otakuholly8885 Год назад
I paid $170 for mine lol, but i got it delivered at least and came with a high end cartridge.
@thimble288
@thimble288 3 года назад
A Foot In Coldwater! Cool record
@derrickkayson9467
@derrickkayson9467 3 года назад
pro tip : you can watch series on flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies lately.
@pedroemmett3509
@pedroemmett3509 3 года назад
@Derrick Kayson yup, been using flixzone} for months myself :)
@Tarthae0
@Tarthae0 4 года назад
I have the same turntable and is having a lot of humm when i connect the right rca cable could you please give some tips on how to fix it?
@Travefun8238
@Travefun8238 3 года назад
Its most likely the cable. I had the same issue on one. Also make sure you have the ground wire connected to the amps ground lug. Good luck
@arnelarson2849
@arnelarson2849 2 года назад
I had a hum also, and discovered that I had the ground attached to the main amp., but when I attached the ground to the separate pre-amp, the hum disappeared.
@jimc9823
@jimc9823 6 лет назад
That is a P-mount cart, they are optimal at 1.25 - 1.5g tracking force.
@andrewlittleboy8532
@andrewlittleboy8532 6 лет назад
Jim C I totally agree, always go with the manufactures recommendation. You can’t just guess.
@aaronmccutcheon
@aaronmccutcheon 3 года назад
He needs a scale too...they're like $15 on Amazon, absolutely no reason for someone that repairs turntables not to have one. I'd bring up cartridge protractors and why you should use one, but I'm not sure that'd get through...also don't clean the grease that was purposely put between two moving parts (like he did.)
@dillonginsky930
@dillonginsky930 Год назад
When I first read this comment I thought “NO IT’S NOT A P MOUNT” then turns out to be a p mount on an adaptor for a standard headshell. Interesting set up.
@sithlord7922
@sithlord7922 5 лет назад
Wd40? Why not deoxit on the pots?
@Steve-mx1iy
@Steve-mx1iy 4 года назад
Because he was using WD40 to lube . Issue he was addressing had nothing to with pots.
@dirkvantroyen9170
@dirkvantroyen9170 4 года назад
@@Steve-mx1iy WD40 evaporates in days, it's NOT lube.
@Steve-mx1iy
@Steve-mx1iy 4 года назад
@@dirkvantroyen9170 Not my experience with WD40 but I use sewing machine oil & lith grease [shrug].
@Steve-mx1iy
@Steve-mx1iy 4 года назад
Definitely would not do anything the way he did...just sayin...
@dirkvantroyen9170
@dirkvantroyen9170 4 года назад
@@Steve-mx1iy Me neither ;-)
@dillonginsky930
@dillonginsky930 Год назад
Watching you flip the turntable over without putting the dust cover back on the protect the tone arm, then watching you bang the unit around on the wooden work surface trying to get the right angle was making me so mad. Other than that very informative lol.
@johnsweda2999
@johnsweda2999 6 лет назад
I'm cringing Jimmy boy you should know this never rest the turntable on its arm any signs of putting any pressure weight on it is a big no! no! You might be able to shrink the belt back to original put it in the microwave, put it in a big measuring jug of boiled water put the microwave on for 15 minutes full power should bring it back to its original shape only time it doesn't work so well is with pure rubber I think that's a neoprene rubber.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 6 лет назад
They should have gone with a Direct Drive like in the REVOX B790 turntable and used the same Tone-arm setup as the REVOX B790 might make things more complicated but you would get better sound no wow and flutter or skating problems just nice pure sound.
@aaronmccutcheon
@aaronmccutcheon 3 года назад
@@DAVIDGREGORYKERR belts sound better (usually). Most technics are indeed direct - drive.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 6 лет назад
Nice turntable should have been a Direct Drive like that found in the REVOX B790 turntable.
@aerorider04
@aerorider04 10 месяцев назад
All that you are doing wrong could fill another three videos. First off, you start out looking like you don’t even know how to start the unit. Then you have removed the dust cover and turn the unit over, putting the entire weight on the spindle, not to mention weight on the tone arm. Anyone would know better, and have left the dust cover in place, using a towel or other soft cloth, rest the unit upside down on the dust cover. You take the potentiometers out and spray with WD40 which can damage electrical contacts because it’s petroleum based. You install a new belt touching it with your hands, which will contaminate the material with skin oils. You mention the fluctuation in the strobe is the turntable “checking it’s speed”.. the SL220 has no such capability, it’s simply a strobe for the user to adjust pitch. If it fluctuates, there is still a problem either with the potentiometers, the belt, the motor or the control board. You might know something about vintage equipment, but not this one.
@joedicocco6719
@joedicocco6719 4 года назад
The audio technica P mount cartridge that was on that Technics SL- 220 turntable only required 1.25 gram, at 1.5 grams it will bottom out in time. Also for the age of the unit you'd think you would have cleaned out the pots for 33 and 45 and recalibrated them, instead you used to used belt to fix your problem. And do you really think the spring that it's controlling the anti-stating is really accurate for it's age. Shockingly you use WD-40 for electronics really??
@aaronmccutcheon
@aaronmccutcheon 3 года назад
Deoxit is your friend!
@2010stoof
@2010stoof 3 года назад
Lots of keyboard warriors out there on this video lol. I have a feeling besides maybe 2 people no one has repaired a table before haha.
@atyourserviceable
@atyourserviceable 6 лет назад
Technics cheapest table ever...Their very best was the sl1200 mk 2 and still hard to beat today
@segasonic9117
@segasonic9117 4 года назад
The 1600/1700/1800 MKII series is better than the 1200. The 1200 was nowhere near Technics best turntable.
@zapwatt
@zapwatt 2 года назад
That's where you are dead wrong. Technics' cheapest tables were straight tone arm, P-mount tables sold in the 80s. This SL-230 is cousins with the mighty SL-23.
@atyourserviceable
@atyourserviceable 2 года назад
@@zapwatt Let me make this easy for you if you have never owned and worked with a technics SL-1200 mk II then you are the one that is dead wrong.First off it is a direct drive table with 1|8 rotation to full speed .you can switch from 33 to 45 and back down in an instant It never looses its speed ever .The pitch control is amazingly precise.The tone arm is completely adjustable for record tracking and height. Wow & Flutter0.01 % (WRMS) The 1200MK2's ultra-low-speed motor and high torque (1.5kg / cm) allow for super quick start-ups (0.7 sec) and stops. Allows for accurate quartz-locked pitch List price $835.00 .So the question here is how do you compare a belt drive table with 0.05% (WRMS) The pitch controls x2 after a year usually fail as well as the speed selector. Pitch control: 6% and sold new for under $ 300.00.So its like comparing and ox cart to ta Ferrari sl-1200mkII being the Ferrari.There is a reason those tables command such high prices today and thats because they are durable,accurate, and have a very long life with little to no repairs .I had mine from 1980-2010 paid dealers cost $550.00 and sold it for $1100.00 and never had even the smallest problem ever. Every other Pioneer and Technics tables I ever had went to the land fill rotation
@zapwatt
@zapwatt 2 года назад
@@atyourserviceable You completely missed the point. Compare the SL-230 to an SL-B200 and tell me that the B200 isn't a far inferior machine. You just missed the point completely. The SL-230 has a curved tone arm with removable headshell/standard mount cartridge and dual pitch control. It is obviously a better machine than the entry level tables that had non adjustable straight tone-arms with P-mount cartridges and single pitch control and non-isolated feet. Pay attention and stop changing the subject. Also, take some time to proofread what you wrote because it is riddled with syntax errors.
@zapwatt
@zapwatt 2 года назад
@@segasonic9117 I agree. I think the SL-1600 might be the very best turntable Technics ever made.
@leektah354
@leektah354 5 лет назад
5:47 "looking everything over" ? No way I'''ll sit thru your 32min video. Just get to the point!.........................Moving on.
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