Even in a show where everybody tends to use neutral expressions and especially on a clone that's not meant to make any expressions at all, they somehow made clone Frieren's death stare radiate so much emotion that it pierces through you.
The fact that 26 episodes into the season this show can still put out possibly its best animation yet is kind of insane. Honestly Frieren might be the most consistently well animated show I've seen.
One thing I love SO MUCH about frieren fights is that it’s so easy to track the characters. Often in anime chaotic fights, the animation start getting so hectic and every frame goes away in split second I can hardly tell what’s happening. I know there’s people who like that and it’s beautiful in its own way,but this frieren fight just proves it can still look like Devine beings fighting and while being comprehensible
Something I think is so cool is how visually distinct from each other they made the different versions of Zoltraak we have seen so far. The Zoltraak that Qual uses in episode 3 and Replica!Frieren uses in this episode is this pure black blast of death while the modified Zoltraak that Frieren and Fern use, which is especially lethal to demons as we learned from Lügner, is pure white. So it makes perfect sense for Replica!Frieren to use the black Zoltraak against humanoid opponents.
Atsuko Tanaka's passing really affected me more than I thought it would. May she rest in peace after having fought with all her might against the illness that took her from her family, friends, and us. As she wanted it and voiced that hope during the Ghost in the shell event, some time ago, I won't forget her. Her roles were incredible, lasting, and meaningful through the characters she acted for.
I'm not one that generally pays attention to the individual voice actors, normally just enjoying the characters they help bring to life -- but now I can't help but hear Atsuko Tanaka's voice in so many characters new and old -- and that comes with both a new respect for her work, and a heavy heart.
love methode almost coming out of nowhere in this test and just completely clutching up on multiple occasions, especially scary that she dealt with fern's replica seemingly quite easily. NEED Sein to meet her at some point that's the biggest loose end in this show I need resolved
I don't think Methode had an easy time with Fern's replica. She only won because the Spiegel was defeated. There's a sense of relief when she says "It's over"
I think the most probable outcome of the methode vs fern fight is Methode restraining Fern's copy after a lot of struggle. She didn't kill the copy because it vanished just after the spiegel was defeated but their relative positions at the end (and Methode not being hurt) imply that to me.
@@Rahochusosu I think it was an even match. We can see that Methode needs to get close to Fern to use her restriction magic. Doesn't seem like that happened.
We only know that Methode and Fern thought for a notable amount of time and that the fight produced a lot of collateral damage. Who would have won if the fight continued is impossible to tell. The fact that Methode was not blatantly losing before Fern vanished is impressive in and of itself.
I love that we see the same kind of golem spell that we saw dancing in a flashback in one of the very first episodes. It's a fun little callback, as this show is wont to do!
Nah, she is just a psycho... joke, if she were she wouldn't be able to empathize and get skills. She is just the autistic kid in the art workshop that just takes a brush and makes some insane shit without knowing how even works lmao. Jokes aside I think that analogy works for her character a little bit, she has problems with her social skills, but curiously, the way she adquires new skills is by doing exactly the most important thing in social interaction.
The most outstanding thing, besides many things this episode delivers on. @ 12:48 in the episode animating the small thought of an ant that can't imagine crushing a dragon is beyond praiseworthy. In other media it would have no individual visual. In some anime they would make it a still frame and that would be fine. But in Frieren you get a fully animated 7 second sequence of a moving ant, a moving dragon and moving flok of birds within a camera angle change. True there is some far greater animation done just within this episode, but this is what makes Frieren the masterpiece it is. Also the second most dangerous thing in the dungeon beside Frierens clone is that of Sense and it got off screen finished. Where action shows would make that fight into a full episode we just see talking and a small curl of hair go up in particles. And it is just as satisfying as we would have watched all the action by itself if it were animated.
As if Ubel didn't already awaken enough masochistic feelings, Frieren/Clone Frieren deliver a few death stares in this episode too. Truly the embodiment of "it was as if they were looking upon garbage." I also enjoyed the subtle hint several episodes ago when Sense and glasses-wearing first-class mage were scoping out the candidates before the First Test: Ubel and Sense actually make eye contact which causes Sense to anxiously recoil ever so slightly.
Maybe its because i first watched this episode with different subs, but i also took from Übel and Sense's scene that Übel can not only perfeclty imagine cutting through the seemingly uncuttable, but can also perfectly imagine how to *cut through people* , which makes her just so much more scary and disturbing to me. really adds that psychotic murderer vibe and i love it.
Interesting, I actually hadn't factored that in before. I just figured based on her comment after killing Burg: "Oops, I cut too much", that cutting cloth is just something so easy and trivial for her to imagine that reality literally bent to her will and just cut through him whole without her acutally meaning to. That said, the fact that she casually cut those bandits to shreds that Kraft found in the forest proves that she definitely has no issue with imagining people getting sliced to bits.
@@Jakokokoroko There's no reality bending involved at all. For a complete explanation of the magic system and the Ubel case, see my "Important Lore" comment somewhere on this page.
I love the anger in Replica Frieren when Fern hits her. We've only seen Frieren angry once, when Aura mocked Himmel (and we all know how that ended...), but even then, that was anger for a friend, a more benign kind. This though, was very much a prideful anger. A "did you, little bitch, seriously just injure me? I will turn you to dust." It is a side of Frieren we don't really see much of, probably because she doesn't really like it, but she DOES have pride in her skills as a mage.
Watching a series of reaction to this episode I feel many miss just how broken is the spell used by clone-frieren on Fern. To cast a spell succesfully you have to have the knowledge of how the spell works and be able to visualize the effect in your mind. Attacking with a spell that is invisible and cannot even be perceived as magic makes any sort of defense by an opposing mage virtually impossibile.
Plus remember how Denken said in Ep19 or Ep20 about how no mage can hide their mana signature when casting a spell (which is how he found Frieren in the 1st test). And yet here we see that when Frieren is being serious, she can do exactly that and more.
@@Diablos-pi2qy To be perfectly honest, as I personally see it, Denken is referring to something completely different: a Mage's mana, their "Aura" to use a battle shonen term XD A mage can suppress their aura to hide, since mages use mana detection to find other mages. However, from what I understood, when casting a spell a mage cannot hide their aura and other mages are then able to detect their mana. (Frieren mentions that just the act of moving their body, let alone casting spells, makes it harder to conceal one's mana). I think what we see at the end of the episode is something different, Fern says she can't perceive the "attack" as magic, there is no reference or indication that the characters are not perceiving clone-Fireren's mana (the mage's mana Denken talks about) or that clone frieren is completely suppressing her mana regardless of the spell used (we can't even objectively tell if she is even partially suppressing her mana like Frieren usually does during fights, as there is no visual indication of the mana nor comment by the characters, we can assume she is doing so because that is how Frieren usually fights and the clones mimicks how the original fights). We know that a mage is not the only thing that can emit mana, magic items emit mana, mimicks and monsters do, we also know that if you cast a spell it usually leaves a mana residue that can be perceived (from scenes of super-sonic birds avoiding the lake after spells where used to freeze and then melt the water). So my conclusion is: perceived mana of a mage is not the same thing of the perceived mana of a spell or magical effect + Fern is referring to not being able to perceive the attack as magic = Denken's comment and Frieren's ultimate move are unrelated. One can make the case that Denken is talking about perceiving the mana of a spell, it is possible, but I would assume he is referring to a mage's mana as the show specifically mentioned of mages supressing their mana to hide on multiple occasions and I feel they would point it out in more clear way if he was referring to something different compared to past cases.
Important lore that a lot of people get wrong [Part 1 of 2] Short version; Visualization is important, but it's not the be-all-end-all and Frieren doesn't fall for mimics. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Long version; (I) The magic system and especially the thing about visualization A spoiler-free explanation of the magic system in the Frieren world is as follows: There are 4 components to a mage's magic-casting in the Frieren world: (1) Mana: How much mana/magical-energy they have. Note that other than a mage's initial mana-capacity, which is affected by the following; (a) REVEALED IN S01E28. (b) MAYBE their race (ie, demon vs elf vs dwarf vs human). However, it's unknown how this affects the initial mana-capacity (eg, Flamme in her 20s-30s? and Aura in her 500+ years of age, had similar amounts of mana). (c) Other currently unknown factors (eg, maybe the Goddess' Blessing since Heiter had a ton of mana even in his 20s?). a mage's mana-capacity is directly proportional to the amount of time that they have been training it (which correlates to their age). Also, mana has other uses than just being the 'fuel' for spell-casting. Specifically, mages with lots of mana have additional benefits compared to 'normal' members of their race. This point will be further expanded upon in a later arc as well. (2) Control: How much mana and how precisely they can control it. This also includes controlling spells after they've been fired off (eg, Frieren curving her Basic Offensive Magic around Fern's Basic Defensive Magic in their practice duel). Note that even raw mana can be used to achieve simple yet effective results if a mage has a high degree of control (eg, Frieren defending her neck against Draht's wire). This point will be further expanded upon in a later arc as well. Another very important case of mana control, is the act of limiting output. Any decent mage (with a good amount of mana control) can temporarily limit their mana (for the purpose of surprising a foe). This is called Concealment. It's basically a mage reducing their mana output from 100% to as close to 0% as they can, while they try to sneak attack an enemy. However, after the sneak attack, there is no value to doing this, since an enemy with magical abilities can probably detect that the attacker is reducing their mana output from the fluctuations seen through mana detection (and even the attacker's unconcealed mana level can be detected, thus making the limiting completely useless at this point). Examples: (a) Fern sneak attacking Lugner in S01E08. (b) Lugner sneak attacking Fern in S01E09. Suppression, on the other hand, is the technique of limiting your mana output at all times (to say 10%). This is a useful technique because it can easily create situations where your enemies underestimate you. A mage that performs Suppression, can also do Concealment and how that works is as follows: They reduce from 10% to as close to 0% as they can, and then go back to 10% after they lift their Concealment. ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON SUPPRESSION REVEALED IN S01E27. As for why Suppression is a dishonesty and a mockery of magic, consider the following examples, which are somewhat equivalent to what mages practicing this technique are doing: (a) A black-belt joining a white-belt martial-arts tournament. (b) A soldier disguising themself as a civilian, and then attacking a target. Basically, mages performing Suppression are hiding their power to intentionally create situations where their opponent is led to underestimating them. This would make them dishonest, but also shows them to be not truly proud of their achievements in magic to be confronting their foes straight-on with their full force and without trickery. (3) Spell: The magical formulas that they know and are able to use. Examples: Basic Offensive/Defensive Magic, Reelseiden. Note that the spell formula dictates what is possible or impossible. Examples: (a) Basic Offensive Magic cannot pierce dragon scales or Basic Defensive Magic, regardless of the attacker's visualization. Otherwise, Frieren would've taught Fern how to do it when she asked Fern to attack the Solar Dragon in S01E05 in the former case, and Basic Defensive Magic would actually be useless in the latter case. (b) Frieren's spell to clean a bronze statue not being usable for a stone statue. If it was purely a visualization based system, then there is absolutely no reason for why Frieren wouldn't be able to use the folk spell in S01E16 to clean Kraft's & Unknown-Priest's statues. (4) Visualization: Needed to activate/use a spell since a mage cannot make something happen if they can't clearly/exactly picture the desired outcome. Note that to clearly/exactly picture an outcome, one needs to have a complete understanding of said outcome. Therefore, they should have a complete understanding of the process that created that specific outcome/result as well (since only understanding an outcome without understanding the generating process, will be incomplete at best and flawed at worst). This is pretty much how it is in real life as well. Furthermore, a weak visualization can weaken a spell, but a strong visualization cannot strengthen a spell. Examples: (a) Regardless of Aura's visualization, her scales were already tilting towards Frieren, even though Aura was unaware that Frieren had more mana at that point. If it was a purely visualization based system, then Aura would've been able to dominate/control anyone including Frieren. (b) Ubel's visualization is ONLY taking advantage of Reelseiden's formula to cut anything in a 5? meter radius. Even she is unable to fully maximize the spell, since she cannot visualize cutting Basic Defensive Magic. However, she can visualize cutting more things than most people, so she's still a very proficient user of this spell. -------------------------------------------------- In summary, the visualization component of magic is just like in real life; you will surely fail if you have a 'bad' mindset, but a 'good' mindset does NOT guarantee success (ie, a 'good' mindset is a necessary, but insufficient condition for success since external factors are still a thing). Visualization is important, but it's not the be-all-end-all. Spells determine what's possible or not, and a mage's visualization can make them achieve between 0% to 100% of a spell's potential. They cannot just bs visualize/imagine themself into winning and/or doing the impossible.
Important lore that a lot of people get wrong [Part 2 of 2] Also, there is technically one more component, which may fall under Control, but since I'm not convinced that it definitely does (and also because it's not completely crucial for just casting magic alone as a singular mage), I've written it below as a separate point: (5) Detection: How accurately a mage can detect mana in a certain radius with themself at the center. This is extremely important for battle, since it relates to: (a) Finding hidden enemies (who are probably concealing their mana). (b) Becoming aware of surprise attacks not caught by the physical senses (eg, being shot from behind). (c) Not underestimating a strong foe who's pretending to be weaker than they are (ie, mages who suppress their mana like Flamme, Frieren, and Fern). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The above info is from: S01E02: First half of the episode with Frieren teaching Fern. S01E03: Second half of the episode on Killing Magic. S01E05: Second half of the episode with the Solar Dragon. S01E08: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E09: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E10: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E15: First half of the episode on Goddess' Magic. S01E16: Second half of the episode with the statue cleaning quest. S01E20: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E21: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E26: Pretty much all of it. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, there are a few additional minor notes for points 2 and 3 (ie, Control and Spell) that I have not included due to being spoilers for anime-onlys. (II) Frieren vs Mimics Putting aside jokes and memes, I have seen far too many people and even video essays on RU-vid (some of which claiming to be serious analysis types) thinking/saying that Frieren falls for mimics. However, the truth is; Frieren doesn't fall for mimics. She chooses to take the risk when it's safe to do so (ie, outside of battle situations) because she doesn't lose anything of value (and because the mimic-check spell is only 99% accurate). Specifically, she loses a little time while in the mimic and then later when fixing her hair (but she doesn't care about that because she has practically infinite time), and suffers a little reputation damage (but she doesn't care about how others view her all that much). On the other hand, she may gain something (eg, maybe the shaved-ice spell shown in the flashback in S01E06). In summary, she loses nothing and may gain something so why not try them all?
The only thing I wish was different would be that we could have seen more of the fight between stone!Fern and Methode. otherwise, absolutely spectacular episode
If you go with Ubel's explanation about how her ability works, the fact that she easily cut the 1st class mage in half means that she must view the human body as something "made to be cut". 😳 That's slightly scary.
Methode is really the MVP with her versatility, sensing the other replicas, healing everyone, testing out hypnosis and restraining magic and in the end stalling Fern's double in a 1v1. Even though Frieren is technically the strongest, since her double takes Fern+Frieren to deal with and the whole strategy to center around, she is kind of a net negative as an asset. The trial would be easier without her.
This set of anime tee is reacting too is just so peak, jujitsu kaisen, frieren, mushoku and re zero all at the same time: *_insert jujutus kaisen panda image crying and saying "its just so peak"_*
Man. Ubel is so much more interesting than she was first shown to be. She 100% knows that Sense’s hair, and Burg’s cloak are covered in defensive magic. That they are tough and protective. But that doesnt matter. They at their base are things to be cut. That at their core their defensive nature is irrelevant. To quote Brok “ it isn't the form of something that matters, but rather the nature of it that does.” And their nature is to be things to be cut. I also find it interesting that Ubel cuts off Denken from explaining things. But then takes her moment to explain how she can cut stuff.
we can see so many prespective from all the caracter about how devensive magic works, but theres backdrop from complex defensive magic use by Burg and Sense it explain by Richter when fighting Lawine and Kanne. no matter simple or compex devensive magic u use if u dont know where the attack comes ure defensive magic is preety useless bcoz to minimize mana output u need to pin point wheres the attack comes. Ubel "Reelseiden" is a simple magic but the trajectory is impossible to follow. what makes me interesting about how magic works in Frieren is "Heaven and Earth can turn up side down"" it looks so powerful if u see from one or two character prespective but if u see different character prespective about how it works its understandable.
@@willpina I had 'The Ancient Magus' Bride' season 1, as a 10, as it was the best fantasy/fantasy-adjacent anime I'd seen, but frieren was better in every regard, and since I can't make the latter an 11, the former needs to be a 9. Edit: current 10s are nichijou, violet evergarden, ngnl: zero, and frieren, btw
At the time this episode released, the soundtrack wasn't on RU-vid yet. The closest you had was a fan-made cover with a fan-made name. It took me a long time to go through the entire official playlist until I figured out this amazing piece of epic music at the beginning with the black hole was called "Kinfe to The Throat". So freaking good. In terms of fighting animation, episode 26 is my favorite. It is so cool and epic. But even then, I'm not sure I would choose it as my favorite episode in general in the series, because the calmer and emotional ones are usually just as beautiful. Gigguk aid about the show that it doesn't even need good fighting animation, the regular interactions and travel are already enough. I love how much care they put in this anime.
Anyone know if Tee has talked about watching Golden Kamuy? That's one reaction I'd really enjoy. RIP Atsuko Tanaka. All Umineko VA's will sleep peacefully in the Golden Land
Something about the no cast spell bossfrieren people miss is that Flamme in her first interaction when she obliterated the demons chasing Frieren also dint use a staff. Thou not the same spell, its seems magic dont really need a "medium" to activate. Also when Edel cast the mindcontrol one she dint use her staff or a magic circle so there is a aspect of magic we are still missing and the author havent fulliy explaned XD.
Edel's voice would be the medium for her mind control. She needed to carefully choose a short command that could be used during combat. Edel also needed a certain amount of eye contact with the target, just like Methode's probing of Frieren's mental defenses.
Lolz... Clone-Friener sez "I AIN'T HEAR NO BELL!" Frieren: casts [Skidoosh] When you play the Magic version of: Rock🪨, Paper📜, Scissors ✂️, Lizard🐲, Spock🖖.... It gets complicated.... I told you this was the hard way. All they really needed was someone who knew [Summon Mimic] to stop the copy.... but noooooo.... we have to dig into moves she last used in the Demon Lord fight 80 years ago. Sense-clone vs Übel? No shot. Girl gonna take it ALL off the top ✂️😏✂️
I go back and forth on whether Fern should have just got the killing blow last episode. It all fit together so well that it makes me a little sad we got another round of stellar animation and emotion. On the other hand, I'm super intrigued by duplicate Frieren's final attack against Fern. For one, real Frieren states it's been about 80 years since she used that. AKA: It may be how she defeated the Demon King! But the other part I've been puzzling about is: Why is a force push, even an impossible to detect one, the height of magic? I think I finally figured it out maybe. No outside info here, just a theory. As we've seen with Ubel, magic is not a simple system of power levels or rock paper scissors. Over and over we're told it is the embodiment of a mage's imagination. There's certainly a scientific component to it, like with Zoltraak vs Defensive Magic, but even that can be sidestepped and ignored by someone crazy enough. If Ubel thinks she can cut something then she can. If Kanne thinks she can control the rain then she can. So what did Frieren do? I think maybe she utilized pure imagination to cast without casting. No fancy spells. No decades or centuries of research. No long hours of practicing the same attack over and over. Nothing that can be blocked or deciphered or defended against. Just pure reaction and imagination turned into instant undetectable force. If the Demon King was the most powerful of the demons, and magic had traditionally been the advantage of the demons, then maybe it took something a step beyond traditional magecraft to beat him? One final thought. How did Frieren attack Draht? The demon who entered her cell and used the magic wire against her. Was it a wind spell? Or could it have been a quick burst of this spell-less imagination only magic?
I mean, technically she got a killing blow? If it was the real Frieren, she would probably pass out from blood loss, pretty much immediately after losing both arms.
Frieren said in this episode that she hasn't used that spell in 80 years, so what she used on Draht was just a regular spell while the last time she used whatever that mana-less spell would have been against the Demon King with the Hero party.
Fern got enough feats already. It will only cheapen Frieren's thousand year experience and practice, as well as tutelage by the Legendary Mage, Founder of Humanity's Magic, Flamme and ten year struggle with her party of Himmel, Eisen and Heiter to defeat the Demon King.
I think that you're mistaken regarding Ubel's abilities and how she managed to cut Burg/Sense and Frieren's trump card being pure imagination/visualization. I would highly recommend checking out my comment for a full (spoiler-free) explanation of the magic system somewhere on this page titled "Important lore that a lot of people get wrong".
Master Teeaboo does it again! Tune in for a reaction, and we get poetry equal to Episode 26 itself! Bravo! This episode is very personal for me. I have made many comments on blogs, discussion groups, and youtube that have attracted quite a few trolls and their ugly comments. The Height of Magic is the wrong title for the episode. The Manga calls it the Apex of Magic. The Japanese publishing house SHOGAKUKAN made the official English language translation of the the Japanese text 魔法の高み as the Apex of Magic. If you put the Japanese text into Goo, it will translate into English as Height of Magic. My suspicion is that Crunchyroll went with that English for fear that few English speakers would know or understand "Apex" and they are probably right there. "Height" is a scalar variable word with no implications, but "Apex" is a religious word which points to the Divine. When Frieren used the Apex 80 years ago, it is assumed that it was in the fight with the Demon King. There is no further discussion of what an Apex is, except that it is not Priest magic or Mage magic. And certain individuals cannot call upon it. It seems to be a restrictive force calling upon the power of the Divine Godhead of this world. An "Apex" relates etymologically to "Flamme" and the religious rites of the ancient Flammen. An Apex points to Heaven or Aureole in this world which must have associated to Frieren because Aureole is supposed to be where the Demon King's castle now sits in Ende. We probably will not have a full explanation until Mr. Yamada tells the story of the ending fight with the Demon King at "The End" of "Frieren: Byond Journey's End". Ending the story with a backstory would be radical, outrageous, and I would love it.
I see a ton of TV and Movie remakes... But Friren gets me thinking of book ones. Imagine Lord of the rings remade in this Authors image. Slow story done right style. Tolkein will always be iconic and its no insult meant towards him when I say that... but I found myself tired of what that tree looked like when it was just a tree and not really needed to set the mood. I get it those swamps are haunted as Hel and it could be a bad idea to touch the water... but since that element was not used and Golem stole those scenes by interaction alone... I did not need half a page describing it. Golem kept it menacing enough without it being that area they went through. Ultimately felt wasted to me because it was just another place we were doing nothing with. This Author I am pretty sure would of delved into the characters more and made Sam feel more important. Hopefully this ramble was understandable... could not think of a better example.
We're approaching the end here and I do have one small post-episode discussion request for the next, presumably double, upload of Frieren - your now educated take on the 9.xx+ rating it solidly maintains on MAL. When the reaction started it was at 9.38, now it sits at 9.34. A very strong showing without a doubt, considering like anything that high, it suffers a severe case of "dishonest user input".
Are you insinuating that people rate it too highly or too lowly out of dishonesty? Both is probably true tbh. Anything that highly rated will attract rabid fanboys and senseless haters alike.
@@Jakokokoroko Mainly referring to the "FMAB is #1" squad I imagine. Though Frieren has held up for long enough now that it just might legit be the new king
its not a dishonest output. there is still down voting on the FMAB community until now. Since Frieren is new the voting and downvoting is still happening. while FMAB was already done years ago so no one would care to vote or downvote for it. lets be real, FMAB fanboys still glorify the series and will downvote anything taking the #1 spot.
*There is one question I REALLY hope you will anser in the last part of this reaction series: Do you think Frieren deserves it's number 1 spot on MAL?*
I personally think calling any show the best of all time doesn't make any sense. We do not have nearly good enough memories and objectivity to be able to compare every piece of media that we've consumed across our lives. While I understand that the overall score is some average of all individual scores, I still personally dislike this method of ranking. I typically only rank shows/food/etc by 3 to at most 5 tiers. And under such a scheme, I do believe that Frieren absolutely deserves its place in the highest tier.
Did you know that we could slice our fingers easily as slicing carrots? Our brain do be stopping us from doing that. It's probably on the same realm as Ubel's logic kek
I think that's a very often repeated myth. It's a pretty big exaggeration. Slicing a finger is way harder in reality simply because you have to factor in all the different components that make it up (skin, fat, muscles, tendons, bones) which each have their own densities and resistances which makes it way harder than cutting something extremely uniform in texture which is also way less dense like a carrot.
That Frieren stare is probably the most epic thing in the series for me. Right after........spoilers Hero of the South going into 1v8 against the strongest demons under demon king
personally I don't think Frireren and Fern use one spell when fighting other mages due to a sort of Bruce Lee mentality of "mastering one technique is better than half-assing multiple techniques". For one Frieren knows a sh*t ton of different spells (combat spells as well as this arc demonstrates) so the idea of concentrating one's effort on only one spell does not make make a lot of sense, also if the two Frieren are fighting "seriously" against one another as I think they are it is very telling that the "basic" Zoltraak is practically the only spell that isn't cast during the fight. Sort of hinting that Frieren only using basic attack spells when fighting mages is her holding back, not fighting at her full potential, in other words she is less effective fighting this way. For me the reason why Frieren fights this way and tells Fern to fight this way also is that Frieren is a "peaceful" mage (as Flamme puts it), she like when people compliment her spells, she is happy when her spells make other people happy. More advanced "modern" fighting spells are spells (according to Richter's spiel on how magic evolves) that are design to better kill other mages. Definetely not the kind of spells that make other people happy or very "peaceful", Frieren doesn't see magic as a tool to kill other people and so refreins from using improved killing magic when she fights human mages. As Richiter puts it an "old way" of fighting where the aim was to exhaust the opposing mages mana reserves, while modern magic crushes or bypasses defensive magic hurting the opposing mage directly.
The reason they use one spell was addressed previously. Zoltrak is enough for mages of this era in Frieren's opinion. It's not because of mastering one technique or a preference for more mundane magic. It's pure and simple utilitarianism. You only put in as much effort as necessary and using all the fancy spells isn't needed outside of facing someone like Frieren fighting herself.
@@CeliriaRose Exactly, Zoltraak is basically the modern day gun compared to all the other magic. It's extremely quick, precise, cost-effective and pretty lethal. The only reason all the other mages aren't Zoltaak spamming machines as well is because defensive spells are more common nowadays and physical manipulation magic is way better at breaking through them. I guess physical manipulation magic would be like a rocket launcher in that analogy. Sure, it's more powerful than a gun but it has way less utility and more downsides compared to a gun (less cost-effective, slower, depending on the magic you need the ammunition to be available like water with Kanne etc.)
@@CeliriaRose Not sure utilitarianism is the word I would use. I mean "utilitarianism" is all about ensuring the greatest results or greatest efficiency. If I say "fighting with one hand tied behind my back is enough to beat the boxers of this era" it just don't scream practical or efficient... i put in slightly more effort, as hand behind back involves more effort than having both hands, but even if limited/hampered it is enough to get the results I'm after. also Frieren doesn't use Zoltraak to fight Aura nor Draht but other spells, which to me reads that there is a more thematic or philosophical reason to why Frireren sticks to Zoltraak when fighting human mages, not just a practical.
@@Jakokokoroko could be, but if it was less useful or have more down-sides then why has it become so wide-spread? If modern magic becomes the dominant "meta" between mages shouldn't it be because in the vast majority of cases it is the better or more convenient choice?
@@lucaschiarenza5648 That analogy doesn’t work. Using Zoltraak isn’t the equivalent of fighting with one hand behind your back. That would be intentionally hamstringing yourself making yourself intentionally weaker than your base level. A more apt analogy is that Zoltraak would be the equivalent of just using basic punches. No frills, nothing fancy, no need for complicated maneuvers. Just the straight basics jabs and hooks and blocking or dodging when needed. Just the pure basics. And that is exactly what it is. Zoltraak is the most basic spell. Ordinary offensive magic. It’s the quickest, easiest, most efficient it’s straight up an exact definition of a utilitarian fighting style focusing on efficiency and simplicity over more complex strategies. Sure she uses other spells in certain circumstances but that’s Frieren dealing with higher level enemies and unique situations. Against Draht she is facing one of Aura’s executioners with her neck caught by a wire that she herself admits she would have difficulty breaking. Meanwhile Aura is Aura, one of the sages of destruction with an army of controlled soldiers. It’s easy to forget given how smoothly Frieren won but Aura is literally one of the stongest demons in the world. Those aren’t your average situations which is why she used more nuanced spells. She uses fancier spells as necessary but her main focus is still on handling things as efficiently and straightforward as possible. Even with Aura even as she used things like the dispell magic she handled things simply by just stalling for time and letting Aura use the scales. With Draht she disabled him to free herself from the wire and stop his magic and then took him out in one blow. It’s all efficiency and doing things in the way that is the simplest and easiest.
This has nothing to do with Frieren nor Teeaboo, but his discussion of Electric Callboy reminded me of one thing. You know you shouldn't call those northern people "Eskimos", right? It's because it means "dog eating people". The proper name is the Inuits. What I hesitate is that it sounds like "inu-eats" in Japanese. "Inu" means dog. No offense.
The "Who are you?" at the end was directed at the arrogant guy who went into the dungeon by himself first at the beginning. He was shown briefly cowering in the last episode and he was also shown being carried out by his golem this episode, but everyone forgot about him. edit: guess I was mistaken
i thought it was just richter responding to edel's commentary on the golem? she was talking to him abt it even tho they never really met unless theres something i missed!!
Uhm ubel is not being dumb she just trust her power 😂 your deduction is akin to luffy being dumb and lucky But ubel is more like she negate the defensive magic with the power of believing that something can be done
Ubel is not negating any defensive abilities. Many make this mistake here. For more details consider checking out my full magic system explanation comment somewhere on this page titled "Important lore that a lot of people get wrong".
