Teenager Disappears Into Jungle at Night While on Vacation with Family | Nora Quoirin Case Analysis 

I have a family member with a disability, she is constantly told they have the mental state of a 6 year old, and in many of the physical test doctos put her under, they say she is incapable of doing things that I've seen her do. Also, when she gets scared or freaked out, she has a strength that is superior to mine, she doesn't always show this behavior only when she gets scared. So for me it's 100% possible she sadly got scared or disoriented and had the strength to survive on her own for a couple of days. Just a sad tragedy over all.

It’s insanely easy to get disoriented when you’re slightly out of your element. It’s not that hard to do it when you’re in your element. Happens all the time. Very sad.

This case breaks my heart. Just thinking of that poor girl, all alone and scared in the jungle is unspeakably horrible.

Another possibility: during the hour-long walk around the compound Nora saw and experienced surroundings that pleased and stimulated her. She awoke before the rest of the family and decided to return to that scene and became disoriented in the process.

I’m the caregiver for my Aunt. She is 68 years old but mentally on the level of about a 8 year old. She is capable of doing a lot for herself but gets emotionally overwhelmed if put in unfamiliar situations. So I could definitely understand how this happened. My sympathy to Nora’s family. I can’t imagine what they have and still endure. Rest in peace, Sweet Nora 🕊️

I think just the fact that she died of starvation shows that she wasn't kidnapped.. kidnapping victims turn up dead for lots of reasons but I don't think I've ever heard of one turning up dead from starvation.

Thank you for covering Nora's story. I'm from Singapore, so it is a tragedy close to home. So many people stayed glued to the news portals, praying for her to be found. Rest in Peace, dear Nora.

I remember this being covered at the time. Many people assumed she'd been abducted, at least until her body was found and there was no evidence of foul play. Just one of life's unfortunate tragedies it seems.

My heart goes out to her family. Having lost a child myself I had to remind myself her suffering was over and not dwell upon how she felt dying. Thank you for your covering this tragic story Dr. Grande

My 10 year old nephew is disabled and i babysit him frequently. His parents are always surprised when I tell them what he was able to accomplish at my house.

The thought of Nora alone and confused is hideous. It's too awful to think about.

It’s incredibly sad that Nora was out there for so long and I can’t imagine what she was experiencing, but I know it wasn’t good just based on the outcome. Incredibly sad and most unfortunate.

Impressed by the Malaysian Authorities investigation. Especially compared to tales of similar cases or any suspicious death overseas in some countries

Poor Nora. I live in UK and remember her going missing. There was a fellow from Birmingham who was mentally challenged years before, he was shopping in the city centre with his family and got separated from them, and was found days later on a bench deceased.

It sounds like the video footage from the station showed she was much more mobile and agile than earlier described. Given that and the fact that she showed no sign of being attacked, that she died of starvation it seems pretty clear she somehow made it that far on her own before stopping and eventually perishing. Very sad. 😕

Dr. Grande: This is one of your best episodes, in my opinion. Even though this is a tragically heartbreaking story for the family, it’s good that this young girl did not succumb to evil. Hopefully, she wasn’t cognizant of the peril she was in. I also hope that she did not suffer unnecessarily. To her family: My heart goes out to you all. Thank you sincerely, Dr. Grande.

Am I the only one who falls asleep to Dr. Grande’s voice at night? I always have him number one on my fall asleep playlist because he has a very soothing voice 😅

Sad story. Dementia patients wander out all the times. They become disoriented. I believe she wandered out on her own. Even though she did not have dementia there are a few similarities between a dementia patient and someone that has some form of diminished capacity.

As a perfectly capable adult, I became lost in the woods of southern Ontario on two occasions, once while looking for firewood and once while looking for a portage trail between two lakes. Fortunately for me, I was close enough to my fellow travelers that when I yelled for help, they heard me and yelled back. For people who don't camp in the wilderness, when the sun in obscured by clouds, it's far easier to lose one's bearings than would otherwise be thought.

I am from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. And The Dusun in Seremban is a very beautiful and safe place to visit. Thank you for your analysis, Dr Grande

As a Malaysian myself, I'm sorry Nora has to encounter such untimely death in my homeland she's unfamiliar with. It is true that my country has a lot of tropical rainforests with mountainous terrains + the weather here is very hot & humid, where there's no rain for days - sometimes, you can sweat through your fresh clothes after you've just showered a few minutes ago. This is why we Malaysians wear light clothing most times in order to counter the heat, especially in urban cities like KL (Kuala Lumpur). So, for Nora with orientation issues, I don't think she was exposed to a jungle before, let alone learn much jungle survival skills - except for one, i.e.: she used her instincts to search for water. Despite that, there is little doubt she could not handle Seremban's jungle/rainforest + have to discard her own undergarments in an effort to deal with the humidity. Also, the reason why no one was able to relocate her undergarments was likely, Nora wandered through an undiscovered/unknown jungle trail nobody has threaded through before. I doubt the rescue/recovery team went through there too.

How awful. Knowing she must of been suffering and not being able to find her…devastated doesn’t even begin to describe it.

Thank you for covering this Dr. Grande. This is a tough one. I hope you have a great weekend!

This is such a heartbreaking case. Those poor parents and that little girl. RIP Angel🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊

Thanks for covering this tragic case Dr ! Btw mothers name is Irish, Meabh pronounced May-ve

This has eerily come right after I’ve seen that a mentally disabled teenager has gone missing today in a city where I used to live. I just hope that it has a much happier ending.

Poor girl, she must have been so frightened. And her poor family, what a horrifying situation

I remember this story in the news. It was incredibly sad story. May she rest in peace

What a tragic and sad case. I can’t even begin to imagine what she and her family must gone through, utterly heartbreaking. Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤

My friend lived near a jungle when she was younger. Her brothers used to play in the jungle with her and then run away from her . Fortunately she found her way out every time. What a shame for this girl.

This happened on the island of St. John, USVI. A resident, in the early stages of a Dementia condition went missing. He went outside to locate a toilet, and did not return to the property his family rented. They were full time island residents. The island terrain is challenging which made it difficult to search for him. Many people volunteered to look for this man, but had no luck. The island is very humid with few sources of water. Finally, a tourist with some sort of specialized geographical training heard about what happened. After making tabulations, he suggested a possible location to search. The missing man was found, face down in a crevice, deceased. It had been three days since he went missing. The man's family expressed that they did not fully understand the extent of the man's Dementia. My point is, these terrible things happen, even when a person with special needs is being very well cared for. I was living on St. John when the incident mentioned took place. I hope the family of the young girl here does not feel there was more to be done. RIP.

Utterly tragic for this vulnerable girl. I’ve learned from listening to this. Thank you Dr Grande.

Having a special needs daughter myself. My heart goes out to this family. What an absolute nightmare.

I feel like people always underestimate the abilities of a person. Regardless of state of mind or being special needs. Im surprised she didnt get further. May she rip. Its a very sad and tragic situation/story.

“Teenager is missing after trek through jungle” Yikes, that’s a bummer. I mean, I am from Polynesia. I grew up hiking and camping in dense jungles whilst mountain climbing and hunting and such. Tropical jungles can be extremely unforgiving. I have on multiple occasions almost lost my life over the years due to flash floods, rock-falls/landslides, heat stroke, wild boars and more. Merely hiking through the thick jungle is in itself an arduous task, especially if one must carve an initial path with a machete. Anyways, I know the fear that she was experiencing before she passed. Being lost and alone in an unforgiving jungle after running out of supplies is an extremely frightening and dangerous situation that is demoralizing and requires a ton of skills and inner strength to overcome. How tragic. That poor thing, may her soul Rest In Peace.

Died of misadventure is always such a sinister way to die. It tends to leave the closest to her as major suspects in her death.

Very sincere condolences to the parents & family. RIP Nora.

When I was around 9-10, my family (parents, older brother & sister) went camping. During one of the nights, I somehow slept walked down to the river’s edge, walked down 3-4 campsites, then crawled into a strangers tent. I vividly remember being so confused when I woke up to the strangers asking me who I was, I just kept repeating that I had to use the bathroom. I guess I must have dreamt that I was going to the restrooms, but instead went the exact opposite way. Scary thinking how similar this sounds. Hopefully one day her family will get real answers.

I’m from the UK. Thanks for covering. Initially I thought it was going to be another Madeleine McCann abduction. However, given the evidence, and the immediate response (unlike Madeleine’s) I agree with your theory. God rest her beautiful soul and may her family have some peace. She was very loved x ❤️

Very sad case and good analysis, thank you Dr. Grande. ❤

This poor girl, how sad. Thank you for another interesting video, Dr. Grande!

When in Thailand I ventured into the jungle on my own. I got in by walking down a dried up river bed. After about half a hour I wanted to go back only to discover I had disturbed millions of spiders and the floor to the riverbed was literally moving and impossible to go through anymore as I would be covered in spiders in seconds. I sat there on a rock thinking about what to do when a massive snake came slithering towards me. This snake was literally 10ft long I was absolutely terrified. I thought I was going to die and there was nothing I could do. I stayed still and let the snake pass and when it got close it reared up and literally took a look at me then slithers off. I eventually ran through the spiders and got out but will never go into the jungle again

Nora was in a new area and could easily have gotten lost in the woods. Not sure why anyone would think this was impossible. The parents didnt hear nothing. They hope they heard something because its fits the narrative they hope happened. I watch a lot of lost persons cases and everytime people get lost in the woods someone blames it on a kidnapping. I think we underestimate the woods and wilderness. This shows how few people have actually gone into the woods. Its super easy to get lost in the woods.

Living in Singapore I followed this case very closely. I heard all the scenarios including malefic identity and superstition... one thing not making sense with the idea that she left is walking in the jungle bare feet would have left deep cuts and bruises on her feet but her feet showed absolutely no signs or damages. Unless somebody some day bring some testimony, it seems that the poor family will never know what happened to their beloved daughter and will have to live with their awful weight on their shoulders. RIP lovely Nora & Courage to the families and loved ones 🙏🙏🙏

The jungle/forest is beyond easy to lost in. I’ve got lost in a small woods with my family before. It was tiny in comparison to a jungle but we was lost for hours and had absolutely no idea where we was. We found the car park we parked in by luck and it was dark. It was terrifying.

If she had so many physical disabilities & could only walk on flat ground, how did she get down a spiral staircase from the 2nd floor on her own?

I think many times a family sadly becomes "tired" and " frustrated" with someone with severe disabilities and if I were authorities I would look real hard at the parents..one could have donenitvwithoutvthe other knowing or they did it together... Took her deep into the jungle and told her to stay...

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I didn’t know someone could die of starvation that quickly. Would stress and starvation really cause a life threatening ulcer that quickly?

I remember this case. In the local mainstream news, Nora's parents and Malaysians accused the resort or local men who worked there. On forums, Malaysians believed it was all an orchestrated plan by her parents to part with her. Some people were stunned that the M'sian police didn’t question the parents or even suspected them, but Malaysia does have a tendency to go easy on white foreigners + wanting to please them, so Nora's family was allowed to leave the country. Very sad what happened to Nora.

I saw a video of Nora from the year before she went missing. Nora was on a trek down a dirt road in Africa, there were about a dozen other people but nobody was holding her hand or even standing close beside or behind her. I don't believe anyone expected her to have great difficulty walking or to fall.

Great video and analysis. I worked in a residential home for people with learning difficulties and was a social worker, and know that people who are deemed disabled can be surprising physically. A girl in her thirties who I worked with was unable to walk, lacked mental capacity and was dependent on care givers to maintain her well-being, yet inexplicably she was unbelievably strong. She would keep damaging her wheelchairs and beds by snapping metal off in her bare hands and ultra heavy duty replacements did not help as she merely broke off reinforced components with ease. The providers of equipment could not belueve it as their most robust equipment, which was as strong as prison window bars, was being easily bent by a disabled girl, and nothing stronger existed. care givers had to treble up to deliver care as she was so strong that she could lift a full grown man up above her head as she sat down, and she used to pull ladies close to her and cuddle them in bed and they were mere prisoners in her arms, restrained until she could be distracted to let them go. She never wanted men intimately close to her, she just handled men roughly, picked them up or threw them across the room. She was so strong that she would lift free standing industrial ovens and fridges up as though they weighed nothing, yet two men were required to move them. I have no idea how she got so strong, but she was far and away the strongest person I ever heard about. Her shoulders and arms were incredibly well built and her muscles bulged and rippled. Everyone was scared of her, especially the men!

Extremely sad… I agree with you, the evidence points to her wandering off, and became disoriented.

My heart goes out to Nora’s family and friends. I agree there is no person at fault here. I have no doubt searchers tried their utmost to find her quickly, but jungles are very good at hiding people from view.

So many people on here really want to blame someone - particularly the parents. I mean, sure, its possible. Anything is possible. However, I'm pretty confident that was looked into and not found and therefore, not discussed in the media. People always seem to think they thought of something first that didn't occur to professionals in the field, and thats really not how life works. Your thoughts aren't that new, unique or special. People dont seem to understand that these things can and do happen frequently in life and there is not always fault to be assigned.

Tragic. Heartbreaking. May this poor child rest in peace.

"There are many ways into that jungle, precious few ways out" Volunteers 1985 Tom Hanks and John Candy

We, the locals feel (a gossip of the town kind of) like it’s a mercy killing by …………… The parents said a few things that were untrue, like she was a mute but a cctv of our airport showed the evidence that she communicated a lot.

I remember reading about this when Nora first disappeared. I questioned the wisdom of taking her to such a place. She needed a lot of help and supervision. The environment was very different from her everyday life. There were bound to be unusual stresses on her and the family. It was a risk not worth it and poorly thought out, in my opinion. That being said, no one should assume her parents were negligent. They meant well and loved Nora. It's heartbreaking and I wish them peace.

What about option 3: one of the parents lured her into the jungle and abandoned her? It's sadly not unheard of. Aren't most children killed by a family member? Was this type of trip typical for the family? Having a disabled child is stressful, when they hit puberty there is a whole new dimension to the stress. That would not justify abandoning her in a jungle but it could be a motive. I would like to find out more about the parents and family.

Dr grande doesn’t usually make pronunciation mistakes, but meabh is pronounced “Maeve”

Please allow me to finish Dr. Grande's research on this one. I just spent $3.99 on the mom's poorly written, condescending word-salad filled "business" book on Amazon, and watched her awkward, boring Ted talk. The dad's resume shows dozens of techie sales jobs, one after another in short succession. Their family collected more than $125,000 in Go Fund Mes, and sued Facebook AND the Malaysian resort. Ok, please draw your own conclusions about what happened to this innocent young lady. 😢 RIP

I wonder if she was sleepwalking? Years ago, my family went to Spain on holiday. The first night in the villa, I got up and attempted to open the shutters on the bedroom window, stumbling over a chair and bumping my nose. In the morning I wondered why I had a sore and swollen nose as I had no memory of trying to open the shutters. My sister told me what I’d done, and I always thought it was odd that I’d tried to open the shutters in my sleep.

Two year olds have wandered a lot further than that. Malaysia is really hot and humid. Amazing she did not get heat stroke.

If Noras fingerprints were not on the window, then she did not open it. This case is sad.

I think the fact her family claiming she was severely lacking in mobility among other motor skills, etc. greatly contradicting what airport video surveillance was showing is a major red flag. 🚩

Poor kid, whose extreme level of fear is indicated by the ulceration of her intestinal tract.

The sad truth is that this resort was not the safest place to take Nora. Tragic.

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I’ve been here since Dr. Grande had hundreds of followers! I always wondered when you would get recognized for your insight and wise advice.

Thoughts and prayers to the family and friends. It is heartbreaking. ❤🙏

Dr. G, Thank you for covering this case. I’d never heard about it and it’s definitely a tragedy. I agree with your analysis and hope her parents have found closure and peace. 🙏🏻

Having worked with many people with a disability I have seen them remove their undergarments due to toileting accidents or use them as toilet paper if the paper had ran out 😢 They hide when feel threatened by the presence of strangers regardless of family or carer being around so she may have finally coming out for a drink and then collapsed from exhaustion 😢 Regardless it is a sad way for her to pass away and my sympathy to her family 💔

I have a disability as well (perhaps not as pronounced as Nora's), but I can easily imagine things going down as you speculated; I really feel for that girl during those days in the jungle, and for her family, then and now. Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande, for another compelling video.

A lot of people saying the parents did it but then why were the parents upset when the authorities concluded that there was no foul play. That would have been good for them if they were guilty of anything. They continued to insist she must have been taken.

So many strange twists and turns in this one … Thank you, as always, for this interesting and informative video, Dr. Grande. ❤ I learn a lot from all your analyses.❤

Always interesting Thank you

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Such a sad case. I missed the past 6 days of your videos, went on a trip to Chicago...I have 5 more days of videos I missed to watch right now and I couldn't be happier. I love your channel😂❤

Yes!! Thank you so much for covering this! Day made

It seems like she wasn't that far from the house she and her family were staying at. Why did the extensive searches miss her? Such a sad story. Poor girl. And how terrible for her family. Tragic.

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Some of the worst stories I've read of are dementia patients wandering from home and dying close by home. Or individuals or couples driving home from family gatherings and getting lost. Sometimes they just drive & drive 😢 There's a woman in nj who had dementia. Lived near the ocean. She wandered off, never to be seen again 😢 they still don't know what happened...they think she maybe walked into the ocean

Your analysis and conclusons make perfect sense. How sad.

Someone made an interesting comment. Maybe she saw an area she really liked and wanted to revisit it. I would build on that by adding maybe she was like other 15 year olds in her desire for some bit of independence and decided to revisit the area on her own. I LOVED being alone on my bike at that age...just being free. She was like other 15 year old in that way possibly...but childlike in other way perhaps and the combination in this case was deadly. Ah, this case SUCKS all around. God I feel bad for her and her family.

I believe I read/heard somewhere, maybe it was one of the doc G’s videos, that when people are in dire distress and out in the extreme elements at some point near the end they will remove there clothing even if it’s the worst thing they could do for them selves. That might explain why no clothing. Every thing else makes sense.

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Her father said that when he went to identify her body he noticed that her feet were clean with no injuries - something that is inconsistent with the idea that she walked for miles barefoot through the jungle. She may have been able to walk through the airport, but her parents argue that she would not have been able to climb out of a window, remove her nightdress and navigate jungle terrain without stumbling or injuring herself at all. Also its bizarre to assume that because the resort had not been broken into previously this means that nobody ever would. I hope the family find answers.

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Very sad for the family.... Thank you for your respectful & insightful analysis.

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I wonder why she didn't respond when they played the recording of her mother while they searched for her? And why she was found in a place that had been searched several times. Had she hidden from them because she was naked and embarrassed? Surely by the time she was dying of starvation the hunger would have outweighed any embarrassment and surely she could have heard them if she had only made it a mile in that amount of time. What an odd case. Condolences to her family.

I’m surprised that no one suspected the parents. It has happened before that parents have abandoned or murdered their child with severe disabilities, because they don’t want to burden themselves any longer. So these “mysterious” circumstances could be explained if the parents abandoned the girl in the woods. They left her naked to make it seem like she was s*xually assaulted. They could have lied about what she was wearing and also about hearing muffled voices and also staged the open window. They took advantage that they were in a foreign, 3rd world country to execute this. Somebody needs to look into this actually most likely scenario.

Thank you for covering this. I remember when this story was on the news. If i remember correctly, Nora had a fascination for waterfalls too. I think there was a waterfall where she was found. It's heartbreaking. I feel so sorry for Nora and her family.

I am from the UK and remember thinking what a big difference to the UK the jungle would be and it may have made her feel scared and confused.

Very reasonable explantion, doctor.

thank you Dr. Grande

How awful for the parents to know how terrified she would have been out there on her own, and to always wonder what happened. Such a sad story.

I remember this case. Such a mysterious case.

This has some things in common with the Missing 411 cases that David Paulides investigates. Profile points include: no obvious signs of foul play or animal predation, the missing individual being mentally and physically challenged, the remains being found with missing clothing and near water. Also, the body being found further away than one would reasonably assume that the individual could get to on their own.