Tenpai Field Spell Loop Holes, Yubel Cards, Lies about S:P - Rulings 

Regarding the effect of I:P Masquerena, can I use effect of I:P to link out unaffected monster by activated card effect to summon Goddess of the underworld? Many people say it's no possible, but I think it is okay because the i:p is not considered activated effect because the effect affect the resolution to link summon. Also can I activate solemn judgement or solemn strike on the summon of goddess by the I:P effect if this is chain 1 in before chain?

@@r1ckcharged you can link away unaffected monster using I:P by going into underworld goddess! Underworld goddess is one of the best way to clear towers level monsters

@@r1ckcharged and if it is CL1 yes you can activate strike, warning, judgment to negate the summon.

@@MSTTVi have two deck profile request can you build kozmo and gladiator beast for this format please

How does Kurikara Divincarte interact with Tenpai dragon

it does trigger nightmare throne, it says "if a yubel monsters leaves the field"

@@iCasperJay "+ by a card effect" which Unchained soul monsters aren't.

i had that unchained link off ruling come up a LOT during agov format as an unchained player, Obviously the main example about tearlaments names not triggering, But it also came up against sinful spoils R-ace one time, Where that ruling meant that turblance "pop a card if your card leaves the field by card effect" didnt trigger, and that actually was the decider in a super close game that let me take it

it's just the targets of S:P are on the field so it will resolve as much as possible, but if one target leaves the field it can't resolve.

Lol lair needs support

Doesn't D barrier effect the players, not the cards on the field?

@@TheHoodMVP "affecting players" is typically jargon meaning some actions are just prevented from even being attempted. Also D-Barrier clearly applies to monsters (it says "negate the effects of all monsters of that type while they are on the field"). For example if you have an unaffected monster like Ultimate Falcon already on the field, it doesn't care about D-Barrier

@@babrad that is false. D barrier still affects a 5 material unaffected noir. What I mean to say is d barrier is effecting the player in his scenario, nothing on his field since he does not control a synchro in the scenario posed.

@@TheHoodMVP ultimate falcon "unaffected by card effects" Noir "unaffected by ACTIVATED effects" Please just read before saying someone is false next time.

@@TheHoodMVP also NO, D-Barrier isn't worded like cards such as Mystic Mine that would prevent even Falcon from activating its effect since it directly applies to monsters on the field. And even in that case it doesn't "affect a player", it just prevents an action in the game state. The only card in the game you'll find "affecting the player" is Mystical Refpanel, but assuming you know the complete bs rulings this card has I believe you understand why "affecting the player" is jargon and never used by judges in any official capacity

Came here to say this. Replace Anguish with Rage and then it's correct.

Exact same thing I was going to say, field spell only protects on their main phase one not yours.

Let’s use unchain Soul of Rage

Congrats on catching the most common mistake with the card!

Ok if i understand i can link with tenpai dragon if is my turn (i play yubel) but i can’t link with rage in my ennemies turn, right ?

It also matters when your opponent tries to break your board with SP. If you could protect your monster from SP (e.g eagle booster), SP banishes itself still. This is important cause they lost a potential link 2 to climb with.

It dont yeah

that judge is a drunkard, maybe

Your judge was high.

@@clee5791999 this was such a roundabout explanation but as a teacher, I appreciate it and this is what I do daily with my students!

Wait how does Sangenpai transcend dragon linger… it’s a continuous effect, clearly someone didn’t read the cards like me. Blessing’s ritual summon does linger because the entire ritual summon performed has already applied its effect upon that ritual summon via an , and if you do it cannot be destroyed by battle.

Summoning isn't the card in question with Nightmare Pain, Paidra is

Nightmare pain is continuous effect, not activated effect, so they are still forced to attack

I re watched video and misunderstood. I understand now. Thank you.

Yes, it changes the effect.

You can activate Nibiru, even if all monsters the opponent controls would be unaffected by it. It's stupid I know, but most things can attempt to affect an unaffected monster. Destruction, Banishment, Negation, Tributing, Using as Link Material, Used as Tribute etc... Just not as used as Fusion Material because Konami hates us and wants to make this game's rules as convoluted as possible.

It can cause problems for them, if it means they would end up killing themselves, only Paidra prevents the battle damage. In all likelihood they would need to remove Nightmare Pain before trying to do anything else.

a month late buy yes you can use the opponents chaos angle for underworld goddess. reason being is that underworld being able to use an opponents monster isn't an activated effect. its actually not even an effect so it gets around monsters with the text "unaffected by card effects." kaiju's, lava golem, and sphere mode all behave the same way

You can, as the monster is not yet on the field when its summon is negated and is banished.

Anything with Moon Mirror Shield stops them, if they can't remove Moon Mirror Shield or the monster it's equipped to (which they probably can).

Yes if paidra isn’t on field

Not an effect change

you can use the opponents monster when using I:P into goddess. reason being is that konami said so. when goddess first came out there was some argument that you shouldn't be able to because of the same ruling the prevents Decode Talker from tributing an opponents monster it points to. but konami says you can I:P into goddess so you can I:P into goddess, even works that way in master duel.

Paidra effect says you take no battle damage

@@EpicKingofFail ahhh, thanks

Basically you need to have both targets present on resolution for the effect to try to resolve. If they are both on the field, it attempts to resolve the effect, and is able to do so, but only one of those cards ends up banished. If one of the cards was removed before resolution, then the card resolves without effect because it couldn't attempt to "banish both"

Generally when you have an unaffected card, it means you are allowed to apply effects to it, it just changes the result of the resolution. It means that SP's effect can be applied legally to both targets so it resolves, and only then as you're resolving the banishing effect, you then apply Sanger summoning's protection effect. It's similar to texts such as 'if this card leaves the field, banish it instead', you can apply effects to send it to the GY, the effect applies legally, but the card then gets immediately diverted to the banished zone instead.

The same way Escape of the Unchained will destroy only 1 card if you use a protection effect like Balelynx, Dingirsu, or Muck. The "both" keyword mainly cares about not losing its targets and once it reaches resolution, it tries to apply on every possible target then alternative/protection effects kick in.

it has to be a Fiend monster with exactly 0 ATK and 0 DEF

Yep. Doesn't have to be Yubel related. Can add things like Dark Beckoning Beast.

However, you CANNOT search Nightmare Throne with Nightmare Pain or Spirit of Yubel’s effect.

@@6210classick I just cant understand why because there are cards that specify, "atk and def" as well as cards that specify "atk or def", so i would assume the "/" would mean and/or, for example when adamancipater dragite activates its negate it says "spell/trap which in this case the "/" means OR.. so is this one of those rulings that is just konami said so or is there a precedent here???

@@ReDragon8700 you're over thinking it, the card is meant to search Yubel, her other forms and any related cards which all happen to be 0/0 Fiend

Think of it this way. You are essentially changing the text on the card when you change a monsters effect. When you try to negate a monsters effect you’re trying to do something to that monster.

Yeah but you are still applying an effect to an unaffected monster. It logically makes 0 sense. There should be nothing in the game that can interact with a card that has "unaffected" on its card text.

​@@gubigubigubigubiYu-Gi-Oh rulings are bad we all know xD

I was saying this earlier! I saw a post on the judges lounge on Facebook regarding Rising Rebellion Falcon and Skill Drain and apparently RRFs effect will resolve “negated” if Skill Drain was already face up when it was summoned, so said multiple people on the post. Which I thought was absolutely ridiculous, but that’s Konami for you!

Just a thing to note. Sangen summoning says it protects against your opponents ACTIVATED effects. So in your example of the floodgate, that would be a blanket effect, and I believe it would work in changing the tenpais effects. Blanket effects and activated effects work differently (I could be wrong and sorry if I am, but I think I'm right lol)

If you want a proper ruling instead of a meme, the real reason is due to the fact the tributing is not part of the card effect. You will see this in every similar card always having that part in a separate sentence from the main effect. For example, let's take Unchained linking away monsters. It can't use unaffected monsters. Its effect is: You can target 1 face-up Special Summoned monster your opponent controls; immediately after this effect resolves, Link Summon 1 DARK Link Monster, except "Unchained Soul of Rage", by using only that opponent's monster and this card you control as material. How would this work if Unchained were gods....emm... i mean if they could affect unaffected monsters? Something like this: You can target 1 face-up Special Summoned monster your opponent controls; immediately after this effect resolves, Link Summon 1 DARK Link Monster, except "Unchained Soul of Rage", by using only this card you control as material. When you do, you can also use the opponent's monster targeted by this card's effect.

@@babrad chill, it was meant to be a semi joke. Soul crossing’s wording is identical to stormforth. This is not like summoning an underworld goddess if that’s what you’re implying. Goddess is summoning condition while soul crossing and stormforth apply an effect on the monster. Stormforth, unexplored winds, and lair of darkness do not work against unaffected monsters. Soul crossing based on those other cards shouldn’t work either but it does. Now memes aside, for the actual reason why, I was under the impression that it’s just because Konami said so.

@@vparsa87 it is not identical to Stormforth, that is the entire point.

@@vparsa87 also I'm chill because I like this joke. I just thought it was a good idea to give some insight about the actual rulings. Another example is Soul Exchange. The original card cannot work against unaffected monsters. But the retrain "Spell Card: Soul Exchange" does in the exact same fashion as Soul Crossing. PSCT is consistent with that ruling by separating the part that can affect even unaffected monsters in a different sentence. That's why I gave you an example of how Unchained Souls would be worded if they could also link away unaffected monsters. In TCG we typically use "Konami said so" to separate Continuous effects from Conditions unfortunately, but thankfully in the OCG every effect (except conditions) is numbered.

​@@babradbeen waiting 25 years for the TCG to get behind the 1, 2, 3 theme of showing activated affects of the OCG cards. Makes it MUCH easier to see what is activated. Also easier to word which effects are HOPT versus not.