Yep exactly! No reason needed! No job is permanent! I been laid off from government jobs two times and laid off from a private employer! Sucks you just have to go hunt for another job or move mainland better job opportunities and low cost of living! Daughter won’t come back so we just might move up there soon
Amazing to see the musicians walk out with their friends. Sadly, this is why there are unions. If every employer treated their employees good, there would be no need for a union. Costco is an example where there will never be a union because in general, their workers are taken care of.
@@kingmalu39 Bean counters, ruined Waikiki, the whole island chain is dominated by corporate greed` but the politicians allow this...keep them envelopes coming in once a month...
Id like to hear management's explanation for the terminations! Nobody wakes up in the morning and says im gonna randomly fire employees! What led to the terminations is the real question.
I agree. Until the facts are known you can't jump to conclusions. Management will say personnel issues are confidential, but if they don't provide some response that would be a huge public relations mistake.
Right. Were they laid off because of budget? Was it because the show changed and they weren’t in the skillset? Should be more to this story. Paradise Cove, in fact all of the shows are expensive. We were there in June 2024 and most of the island was dirty and rundown. A lot of homeless people, but that is typical in major cities. Servers and Uber drivers didn’t seem cheerful. But gas was cheaper in Hawaii than California!
The fact that they’ve been working there more than 9+ years shows the owners/managers of paradise cove morals of there employees. End of the day it’s wrong. They’ve given there hard work years and time to that job only for the employer to do them dirty like that 🤦♂️ nocanliddat
The workers can only be fired for cause. The dancers were fired for not meeting the terms of their contract, otherwise Ko Olina wouldn’t have been able to fire them. The musicians chose to walk out. That’s what happens sometimes when you stick to your principals. Ethically you do the right thing in your heart, but you fail to uphold the expectations of your employer. We don’t know why the dancers were fired but we do know why the musicians were. They made a choice and now they have to abide by their decision.
@@andrewcanady6644your saying a worker should get a severance package for dancing for 16 years. That's like saying a McDonald's worker who's been working at McDonald's for 16 years deserves a severance. Haha.
@@wisdomveritas6281 No matter what a worker did. As an employer, if they stick it out with me for that long… YES, they are walking away with something. That’s called loyalty and respect and decency. To me, anyway.
Ka wahine hapai should retain one labor lawyer. She has one solid wrongful termination case.. we get some bulldogs on hawaii island will help her fo certain. Get good settlement for take care dat baby
Yup I agree. Totally about not wanting to provide health insurance and maternity pay to employee allegedly. Two cast members making a family. Shady unethical practice. Hopefully there is a pro Bono attorney that will represent the victims. Better call Saul
@@poginurse how? Employer can let go an employee without a reason! Hawaii is a “at will” state which they can do! I been there asked a lawyer friend and was told the same and she wasn’t they only person to get let got so they wasn’t targeting
You'd think legislature would ensure their be laws in place for the good of the employee, then you remember our government was "formed" to ensure power over plantation labor. Sadly that view of us being "labor" at the mercy of the plantations has only been carried down and emboldened over the generations. The "Masters" will do as they want.
@@adantrevizo8549 Racist???? What does "Mainland Style Termination Tactics" have to do with anyone's race. You're coming across as "Ignorant" if you ask me. #learnyourvocabulary
@@billl1127 Sorry to contradict you but the Owner is James Campbell Company LLC. James Campbell Company LLC has two operating divisions: Real Estate Investment Management (REIM) and Kapolei Properties Division (KPD). REIM manages the Company’s portfolio of high-quality income-producing real estate assets in 12 states and Washington, D.C. KPD is focused on the developing and leasing property in and around the City of Kapolei on the island of O’ahu, as well as on economic development and job creation in the Kapolei Region. The Paradise Cove Luau is a subsidiary of the James Campbell Company LLC. Your friend Mr. Horita is directed by them and their shareholders.
Not sure who owns or controls the Paradise Luau but this appears to be a huge mistake. A Luau is incomplete without the delicious Hawaiian food and a great Hula Show. This is like having a Luau without the Kalua Pug. WTH!
TODAYS MANAGEMENT DOESN’T GIVE A S H T ABOUT ITS EMPLOYEES AND THERE WILL ALWAYS EXIST WORK PLACE SCABS READY WILLING & ABLE TO TAKE THEIR PLACE. MY SISTER IS A NURSE SCAB. SHE GOES AROUND THE COUNTRY WORKING FOR HOSPITALS WHO’S NURSES ARE ON STRIKE. PEOPLE UNITE!
It was always this way... management a half-century ago: "You're lucky to have a place to hang your hat!" Some things are eternal. Example from Ben-Hur: Admiral to the galley slaves manning the oars: "You are all condemned men. We keep you alive to serve the ship. So row well and live!"
What a terrible way to treat people, this used to be a great luau. When I heard they wanted to tear it down to build shopping all I could think about is corporate greed. The luau provides a lot of jobs for locals. And used to provide a lot of joy for visitors.
Speaking of a horrible way to treat people… what about the fact that Paradise cove is owned by Asians and almost all of the performers and employees are Asians or haole?! They’re exploiting and commodifying the Hawaiian culture of which they are not part of… but THATS okay?!
@@GNMi79 yeah, for sure. But that's a little too simple minded. The luau will employ way more people than it takes to have a few people in each shop making just above minimum wage. Paradise Cove had been a great second job for people actually make good money and tips. You can see how sad these people are. There's a sense of community there, you're not gonna find that at a shopping center.
Not given a full explanation on why you're terminated.....what kind of garbage company does that?? Especially when you've given your time, heart, and soul for a long amount of time. 😡
Many states, including California, are right to work states. A company can terminate you at any time without any explanation. All they have to say is your services are no longer required.
Right. People island wide seeking jobs and yet those same people go around trashing the businesses that provide them. No one knows why the dancers were fired as this newscast never mentioned the cause for termination of the dancers. But the musicians violated their contracts by walking out with them. True they did it in solidarity but you don’t commit to that principal unless you are willing to lose it all.
Anytime people are out of work after working for a long time it is sad. Even boycotting/picketing, supporting/not supporting the pickets doesn't matter, it's what those in control does. I've had friends, family, and others picket, some got impressive results, others were up the creek with no jobs, no retirement. We can only hope those workers will be able to get employment to be able to survive.
That's wrongful termination of all people who operates a company or business this is Wrong. I'd March right to the Department of Labor and file a report for negligence and wrongful intentions without proper addressing the reason for termination. If there are no performances appraisal or evidence of wrongful doing or write up verbal warning. Something not right here. Employees have rights by law.
Always one Japanese Braddah gotta crush locals career paths and turn em into non-committal contract work... Hayashi, Kaneshiro, Mitsubaga etc. Their twisted way at getting back at DeLima and Reiplinger for pointing out these dynamics in their days.
@@GNMi79: I wouldn't judge them by their names. I have lots of mixed heritage relatives with Portuguese, Hawaiian, Chinese, Filipino, Puerto Rican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, German, Samoan that how they look, how their names are all accepted by the families regardless of if they have or don't have Hawaiian bloodlines. It's just a name. I've had co-workers naming their children with Hawaiian names with no Hawaiian in the parent's bloodline. As long as they support the culture is all that matters.
It would be nice to know why they were terminated. Was it over-staffing? Performance? Downturn in attendance? Or just getting rid of the higher paid employees and hiring some 18 yo's.
Artists unless they are big time pop stars or comedians have a rough career. They were lucky to have had a stable job in this line of work for so long. Performers on Cruise ship get it far worse. I am pretty sure performers in Vegas also have it rough unless they are some big time act. It’s sad but the performing arts industry always shafts the performer if they have not made a big name for themselves.
Keep voting democrat, and see what happened in the mainland.everything takes a least a year before Hawaii sees what is going on.lived there in the 90s,I can honestly say the politicians in the state are for themselves and nothing else.state controlled by politicians.
Exactly. I saw this at a college restaurant job I had. The restaurant wasn't performing so it got new management. In one week, they fired 5 of the top 10 employees. Who knows why. All I know is that I was number 9 and got bumped to 4. I got more shifts and better shifts.
Hawaii is a "rite to work" state. Also a rite to fire. A luau isn't a real steady profession. I was a musician & entertainment always goes 1st in the economy. It's the easiest way to cut back on things.
You can file a lawsuit in which the correct procedures was not followed! You can collect unemployment and owe taxes later. Let them pay one way or another! Reasons are unjust! All of you don’t deserve this! All serve aloha at a constant! Good luck in your future! Malama 🤙🏽
30 years ago, I lived in Honolulu for a year. People came to visit us, we went to alot of Luau's. My family and I really loved the food and the show, and the activities. What a shame how these employees were treated. Paradise Cove was an enjoyable experience 30 years ago. I have no idea what it is like now. I feel for the people that paid for and didn't get to see the show. The way they treated their employees and their paying customers is a major disappointment.
Paradise Cove to be "sunsetted". This was reported over a month ago. The land is being taken back, and the place is going to close anyway. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M6mJ_ZNwaKg.html
@@jcougar55 I used to work at Paradise Cove and know the people and they don't just fire dancers and workers for no reason. Dancers are known to have sex with co-workers and guests. Doing the latter is a no no amongst other things that workers and dancers shouldn't be doing but have done until they were caught. While it's sad that they lost their jobs, don't sit here on the news and act blameless in the whole thing. If they were serious about being fired for no reason, then any person with a high school education would seek legal counsel right away if the job was worth fighting for. But instead they are only telling a small portion of what is happening from their side
The whole business will be shutting down in a few years, so they are letting go the employees that cost them the most on the payroll. People still working there best start looking for other places to work while they still can.
Did you even pay attention to the reporter? At the very end, he said he reached out to them comment and there was NO RESPONSE. That was their opportunity to give their side of the story, and they declined. Which usually means that they know they're doing something wrong.
@@higuy6717 they can't comment on employee matters. That would be violating employment laws. So of course they can't comment. The reporter knows that, but doesn't mention it so he looks like a hero to the viewers. Don't fall for the media's dirty tricks. Something happened, but we'll never know because the employer doesn't want to be sued.
Everyone comprehends at will, but if a business chooses to hire and fire on short notice. Others who do gig type performances will go there, while career performers will avoid it. Always enjoy a well rehearsed performance that's performed by a troupe whose familiar with their stage.
The company has nothing to do with your pregnancy nor should you expect them to take care of you while your pregnant. Did you ask for their permission to become pregnant???
AUWE! SO HEWA!! At least they should be eligible for unemployment benefits. I was kinda/sorta terminated, denied UIB, appealed and won my case. So… it’s possible, GOOD LUCK!!❤❤🎉❤❤
Aloha gang....this is NOT Hawaiian owned and is a full on NON LOCAL/HOWLEY move....look at who took over recently and there you go...blame them!!! It happened to me and ALL the workers that had over 10 years and up to 30+years of service..shame on them!!! I'm never going Paradise Cove!!! Bless you with baby and every one who got this slap in their face😤
When you stand in solidarity, you commit to your ethics. Nice. You also put your job on the line if you walk off, en masse, on a moments notice and leave the clients without entertainment they paid a ransom for. Because of your commitment, you choose to ruin the evening of many eager patrons who were not mixed into your drama. You embarrassed the venue, the business and yourselves. Essentially, you quit and opened the hotel up for a lawsuit. And NOW you want a “conversation?” Everyone saying the firing was unjust but clearly the firing, came with negotiated terms that were not met. We don’t know why the dancers were fired and if they were fired justly, the musicians had no business following the walkout unless they were prepared for the consequences. Everybody got what they deserved and nobody won. Principals are like that sometimes. The results suck but you all made your choices, so now live with them. I’m tired of media maligning businesses that work within the parameters of their contracts. These businesses give great jobs with benefits but nobody appreciates it until they’re gone. Bottom line, live with your decisions.
bummer, feel like the pregnant lady said here's why n then nothing, im guessing that they wanted a new group if they were taking applications. hope ya guys can find new work.
Brah a little bit of comment got in your racism. Where did the haole touch you? No need use words, just point to the spot. Not all haole are bad. Not all Hawaiians are good. People are people.
@@wasabiginger6993 The people of Hawai'i cares. FYI Outrigger canoe club, another haole establishment allowed visitor to use the beach while an endangered monk seal was nursing their new born baby this past month. These things matter to the people of Hawa'ii and needs to be brought up for public attention.
