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I've always felt sorry for Miles Dyson the most in this movie. Not only he got his dreams crushed by the reality that his creation would be the destroyer of human civilizations, but he even got killed and vilified as a bad guy due to breaking and entering his own workplace. Despite all that, he committed on doing the right thing, hard respect for that.
The trailers completely ruined the surprise of this sequel, literally saying “Arnold Schwarzenegger is back, and this time, he’s the good guy”. It’s a shame because as you pointed out, until his “Get Down!” everything is played as tho Robert Patrick is the good guy and it’s so well done the film doesn’t get enough credit for it.
@@MandleRoss honestly a lot of people get pissed about marketing doing this crap. Just look at the most ridiculously spoiler filled trailer of them all for Carrie
I don't know, on one hand it did spoil the big twist, but on the other hand if they did not mention it people would be like "ah, it's gonna be the same thing again, but without Michael Biehn." Maybe it's me talking from 2021 when sequels rehashing the originals are common and people back in 90s were less hard to convince to go watch the sequel, but telling people "Guys, we have a new story where one of the biggest bad guys is on the side of the good now" possibly was not a bad move to attract people to movie.
In the Director's Cut, it is far more shown that the T-1000 is glitching a lot after being frozen, so that helps explain some of his "issues" post that scene.
@@MrSpartan993 Yeah there's a very quick scene that I guess they cut for time in the original cut but was put back in the Director's cut where when grabs onto some emergency railing after walking away from being frozen and shattered, his hand automatically tries to mimic the metal bar his hand touches, like it's losing some of its control over its shapeshifting ability.
Don't forget: this movie is not as cliché as other action movies. There is no love interest, let alone one that gets captured. The villain doesn't monologue. There's no conveniently lousy shooting.
@@DanArnets1492 That's explained away in the deleted scenes. After he gets frozen he starts to glitch out. His feet melt into the metal grating, his hand melts into one of those yellow and black guardrails. He's still terrifying, but it's evident that he's not as able as he initially was.
@@jester1983 After going from one temperature extreme to the next in such a short time, it makes sense that he'd start to have trouble holding himself together.
The special edition is a great watch and some of the scenes I wish they had left in the theatrical cut. There's a flashback w Kyle & just some extra minutes added to other scenes that help it flow a little better. That's just me though and it's still excellent either way.
I'm suprised you never mentioned that during the scene where Robert Patrick is running after the bike, they had to re-work the scene a bit because due to his training for the role, when they got to that scene, Robert kept catching up with the bike way too quickly. He actually was that fast.
Fun Fact I learned: When the recorded Arnold going into the bar to get clothes to get the genuine reaction of the actors they had Arnold wear gaudy looking shorts and didn’t tell any of the actors of it so when he came in everyone was genuinely reacting to the shorts and it made it seem like they were reacting to his junk when by how they recorded it.
Not gonna lie, I'm actually kind of disappointed to learn this. I had no problems believing Arnold walked into a fully occupied bar buck naked - and I don't think the ladies had any either.
I love when they do this in movies. Like Robin Williams's improvisation even in Goodwill Hunting catching the crew off guard and the main lead genuinely laughed. Or in Monty Python where they didn't tell the actors in Life Of Brian the Biggus Dickus joke so they actually had to try to not laugh.
@@magnusm4 or in alien when the blood fountains out of the dude when hes getting chest bursted and nobody but him knew it would happen.It was realistic
they didn't duplicate sarah, that was actually Linda Hamilton's twin sister. And Arnold actually climbed on that tanker while traveling at high speed, no wires, just Arnold being a badass
Yes you can also see her in one of the scenes in the directors cut. They remove the chip from Arnie's head and it looks like they're looking into a mirror which is in fact an opening in the wall. Great scene.
Along with The Matrix this movie is the proof that high concept action movies can be classics to be respected in all the same ways your Oscar winning dramas are. It's simply unfathomable to think how Cameron pulled this movie off and made it so flawless in execution. Truly an action movie masterpiece.
@El Gusanillo Del Juego Indeed. After all, no one can truly tell if we live in a simulation or not and the more advanced technology we create, the easier it is to see how previously impossible concepts can become mundane.
The 'Come with me if you want to live' is for sure the perfect example of referencing the 1st movie w/o being cheesy. Only someone who knew Reese or the Future John would know to say that to her since those were the 1st words Reese said to her; it's my number one favorite line in T2 and it's my favorite Terminator movie.
The whole movie is basically a rehash of the first though. Kyle Reese was just split between Sarah and the Terminator. While I like T2, the first is a much stronger movie. Heck T2 undermined the entire premise just by existing in a way.
Once and awhile that dream sequence is part of my nightmares since I also saw this as a kid. I think it's because it's a pretty realistic portrayal of a nuclear blast.
@M Livehd I remember when I was kindergarten my dad watch T2 on TV. And when the commercial break over,they show a dream sequence. Idk what the title of the movie back then even thou they have a title at right above of the screen.
Hey Doug! It's funny because I just watched Terminator 2 (It's my favorite childhood movie) and I must say that this film is totally perfect from start to finish. When I was a kid in the 90s (John was older then me) I felt that he was the cool kid, he knew how to handle himself. It's mostly because the whole adult world was just overwhelming to me! Then when I was a teenager I could imagine being him and as it was still overwhelming for the most part I loved his interactions with T800 and the fight scenes but still didn't get the emotional value of him and his mother etc. When I'm watching it now i finally connected all pieces of the puzzle. First of all Robert Patrick is the greatest for his portrayal of T1000. He is one of the most menacing villains ever shown on screen (I think that only Gaunter O'Dimm from the Witcher 3 beats him). Also I understand every other character, lol at my age I could even be John's father. I have teary eyes during 90% of this movie because they captured all the emotions so well. After all this time I think that Linda Hamilton did the best job while playing Sarah Connor in this movie. She just breaks me every time she shows up and delivers a performance. The scene with her monologue over John teaching T800 the high five is just so real and sad. It also asks very important questions about imperfections of us - humans. Yes, the imperfections are another topic I would like to address. I didn't watch your latest reviews or videos (I watched every single video until your "Demo Reel" style reviews) because I really felt that they miss the mark with me. I came back randomly here, just to see what's up with this place after hearing some strange stuff over the past few years. To be honest it's not my problem, I'm 8000km away on the other side of the ocean and I've got bigger problems than this stuff. All I have to say is that this review (the T1 and T3 as well) made me feel nostalgic because they hit the mark once again. Thank you Doug, it was a cool Nostalgic trip with the Nostalgia Critic once again. Cheers from Stylo-Poland
@@leob4403 id say its the perfect action movie. i mean the action in this movie is just spectacular. easily trumping any other action movies that came out back in 91.
Two things you didn't mention that I REALLY wish you did: When the T-1000 goes through the metal bars in the mental hospital, his gun gets caught on the bars, and he has to turn it to fit it through. I LOVE that attention to detail. It's such a small, easily forgotten detail. The second was just before Sarah starts shooting the T-1000 with the shotgun. Badass a scene as it is, I love how she's just one shell short of finishing the T-1000 by herself, and they actually showed her fumbling the reload and dropping that one shell that would've killed it. I love both of those little details so much.
I read something about them enlarging the hand guard / lever action so Arnold could actually manage to do the 360 flip action. So it seems legit that if they gave him the ‘normal’ one he could break his hand doing it.
If you look closely, you can actually see the enlarged lever loop when he spin cocks it and normal lever loop when fires it normally. And now I'm going to laugh because I said "spin cock."
That was Linda Hamilton’s twin sister Leslie in the foundry scene. That was not CGI. She is in other scenes also. Her twin is also Sarah Connor in the playground scene.
@@trackatlas6626 Unfortunately, that part of the scene was cut but it is in the extended version. And they had to keep reshooting it until they got their movements matching
John Connor: "Say, how did you shoot around with that minigun at all the cop cars and not hit anyone?" T-800: "I studied all the episodes of the A-Team."
In my opinion T2 is a perfect sequel. It continues the story from the first movie and raises the stakes with the presence of John Connor alongside his Sarah Connor. The T-1000 is a drastically bigger threat than The T-800 was in the first movie. Every time I watch it I love it more.
I like the original more. Even though I absolutely love both movies. But it really depends on what you're looking for. Are you looking for Action/Sci-fi, or Sci-fi/Horror. It's like Alien vs. Aliens. Another set of great movies that get debated to this day.
I liked Dark Fate but Deadpool guy somewhat overused cgi. The bulldozer chase scene was okay but needed more practical effects AND actual driving rather than camera dollies everywhere.
13:38 is Linda's twin Leslie Hamilton Freas, an amazing nurse, who passed away Aug 22, 2020. Rest in Piece. Thanks for helping so many people and for helping make a cinematic masterpiece.
@@theinsurance2450 Context. They don't know the full story, nor will they as they'll both get pinned. For real though, no policeman with his head screwed on right would say that knowing trumped up charges would be brought against him, whether it was said innocuously or not. That choice of words simply does not resonate well with anyone today what with overprotectiveness of children.
@@TheNotverysocial the T-1000 made a small mistake. However this was in 1991 so parents back than weren't so overprotective. Plus these are the adopted parents. They don't really like John that much to really show a caring protective response. Especially the kind in 1991. Even if they did it is not enough to say no you can't have a picture to look for our delinquent orphan child that you're looking for. Sure they could call the station about his name and badge number. But for what? Because he said they have a good looking boy. This is LAPD in 1991. They aren't going to give 2 shits because of a statement like that. They will give the whole run around and before anything is even close to be solve the foster parents will already be dead.
@@theinsurance2450 If there is anything I was not fond of, it's the fact John Connor is still about when it's all over. There should be no more John Connor after all of that transpired. It wouldn't be necessary to kill so much as for him to simply go away. But that did not happen. T3 was abysmal, but his continued presence is justified by it.
SHE HAD A TWIN?? What does the twin do with her life? But they do have tricks to duplicate people, right? Pretty sure in the Parent Trap remake, they duplicated young Lindsay Lohan. I don't know how it works, but it doesn't require CG; probably just merging 2 separate takes.
There's also a deleted scene in the garage where they're pulling a chip out of Arnold's head, that required Linda's twin. She's literally a mirror image.
It was written somewhere (I think the novelization) that the T-1000 didn't know about the backup-generator because Terminators in general didn't have much technical data about each other since they are not meant to fight.
I don't think anyone in their right mind could tear this movie down for any reason. The only reason why it didn't win any major academy awards was it had to compete with The Silence of the Lambs, Beauty and the Beast, JFK and The Prince of Tides.
@@solblackguy Well, as much as I usually hold serious drama over action when it comes to awards, I'll just say that I think T2 is better than all of them. Yes, even Silence of the lambs.
@@ScrubNigel and for me, with all due respect, "Serious drama" can kiss my ass... not literally, but imho "True Art is Angsty" is massively overrated... put a clever, actually deep, well written comedy next to a bog standard "serious drama"... fairly certain that many would still take the latter as the better movie because "Serious!"
@@undertakernumberone1 Well, each to their own. My comment was in no way meant to say I don't like those mentioned movies. Silence of the lambs is superb. JFK is also quite good, but it was a long time since I saw it.
@@ScrubNigel It's more that it annoys me that a work is often taken as "Inherently superior" because it's "serious, dark, depressing, etc." It will be taken as a more "important, better" work over something more lighthearted, even if the other work is actually better, more smartly written and acted.
Terminator 1: I’ll be back Terminator 2: Hasta la Vista, Baby Terminator 3: You are Terminated All of which are in the top 100 one liners in movie history
@@pajtimo23 nah remember that scene when Arnold takes the phone away from John as hes calling his foster parents and he says to John "Whats the dogs name?" John: "Max" Arnold on phone to foster mom "Hey Jenelle, whats wrong with Wolfie? I can hear him barking" Mom/T1000 "Wolfies just fine honey. Wolfies just fine...Where are you?" Foster Parents are dead.
@@pajtimo23 hey bro sidenote, if u watch the extended cut of the film it shows the T1000 walk out to the dog kennel and stabs him and rips off his collar to reveal his name was Max and realizes he was duped.
My favorite line that speaks volumes: “I know now why you cry. But it’s something I can never do.” The Terminator recognizes he can’t give John what he wants: a father and a normal life. Self-termination is the only gift he can give him, Sarah and humanity.
@@blurayhunter2443 one of the set crew gave him a real gun instead of the augmented prop. He could've seriously injured himself if it went off, even if they were blanks
I'm kinda disappointed he didn't mention the music change where Arnold's T800 theme changes and becomes a heroic song instead of a villainous one right as the T800 grabs John and puts him on the motorcycle.
By preventing Judgment Day, Sarah terminated John's existence. What would've made more sense in Dark Fate would be John Connor disappearing from existence and Sarah tried to make Judgment Day happen in hopes for John's return due to the love for her son, sacrificing billions of lives.
Damn so she's the villain? I dig that. What if... no robots from the future but crude ones from now and maybe Dyson's son tries to stop her or something because his father died to stop judgment day?
@@JachAnen It's hard to say... for me both, Dark Fate and T3, are worst movies in this franchise. Salvation and even Genesis are better, at least these tried to do something new.
2:00 - 2:13 Man, I wish critics would stop ruining "just for fun" movies. Who cares if _Hoodwinked_ (2005) didn't have good CGI or a deep plot? I just wanna have fun with a singing goat on a rollercoaster and a skiing granny snowball fight!
I love this movie to death, but I saw it when I was too young. The police guy getting killed while getting coffee, Sarah’s dreams of judgement day, and the demise of the T-1000 all gave me nightmares!
They also took the trigger guard part of the loop off. On the 1887 shotgun, the trigger guard is a separate piece of metal. I own a full size copy of an Winchester 1887. Made the mistake of trying to do the Terminator/Rifle spin with it. Almost broke my hand and wrist. The gun weighs about 10-12 lbs...
Fun fact. There are deleted scenes that shows the deep freeze and thaw damaged the T-1000. He starts experiencing glitches, such as his body parts like his feet and hands mimicking surfaces he touches. That's how John knew which Sarah was fake. He looks down and sees that the fake's feet are mimicking the floor.
I love the fact that both the cop and Sarah have twins, so they used them. There's also a deleted scene with Sarah stitching up Arnold in a mirror but there is no mirror. Linda's sister was literally mimicking her movements and working on a fake Arnold.
@@alexrosas5788 Rise of The Machines is better than Dark Fate. It may not be up there with T2, but it’s decent enough and has a dark ending that most wouldn’t be able to to do today because it’s too risky.
First movie never specified the future can't be altered, it's just that there was never a point in trying to alter 'cause at the end of the day, the humans won the war at the end. Heck, Skynet was the one trying to change the future for that exact reason.
How dare you to skip the deleted scene where terminator "learning function" is activated and not mention that "everything is going to be fine" is an alternative ending
When I was still a kid all my friends had a crush on Sigourney Weaver when it came to action women. I was the odd one out that liked Linda Hamilton more.
Unpopular opinion: I kind of liked Terminator Genisys. The twist in the middle was complete ass, but I liked the idea of alternative timelines being created.
@@solblackguy I liked it too because it bypasses the (aggressive) doomsday automation, which takes away from the A.I. actually being conscious in contrast to explicitly showing the A.I. improving on itself, it introduces Borg style assimilation which is a logical improvement over pure infiltration, hence more menacing if one has the neural net to process the implications, which make it more realistic. The only addition "Dark Fate" makes is the body enhancement, which would make Reeses' survival in the future more believable. Skynet A.I. represents centralized government which is manifesting as we speak.. and multiple versions of it at that, everyone is at it
And Toy Story 2, Back to the Future 2, Roderick Rules, Shrek 2, How to Train Your Dragon 2, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2, Kung Fu Panda 2 (Tell me any ones that I have missed) Take notes crappy sequels Also, there is a difference between a perfect sequel and a perfect movie
The Terminator saying “come with me if you want to live” is still on of my favorite parts. Sarah hearing the first words she ever heard from the man she loved to show her that she’ll be safe is genius writing.
@@asarishepard8171 And the dazed frightened look on her face when she takes his hand. Its like she believes him, but still can’t process it yet. Her performance was amazing.
White guy wanted for killing cops at a police station over a decade ago: "Get down on the ground!" Black robotics expert who likely has the cleanest record: "Empty those rounds!!!"
@@ChaseSeaborne I mean, the Terminator just lit up their entire police department with a minigun and grenade launcher, I doubt they weren't considering explosives as part of the equation on some level.
Oh hell yes. That scene utterly terrified me when I first saw it. And that scene is still regarded today as one of the most accurate depictions of the destruction that a nuclear blast can cause. In fact, the nuclear nightmare scene taught me an important lesson: In the event that a nuclear war occurs and your city ends up getting bombed, when you see the missile incoming, run after it! You want to be as close to the point of detonation as you can so that you'll be more likely to get instantly vaporized rather than an endure a slower, much more painful death by burning or radiation sickness. I know I sound defeatist, but come on... If you don't have shelter or live on the outskirts of your town and thus more of a headstart to get out of the blast zone, you probably aren't going to survive when that bomb drops.
*Sigh* He doesn't ask "what's wrong with your eyes?" because he doesn't know about crying, he asks because he KNOWS about crying and the biological reason why we tear up, our eyes are irritated by something being in them. He's asking what's wrong with his eyes because he things something is physically wrong with them. He doesn't know about the emotional reasons why we cry, which is the lesson he learns by the end of the movie.
It actually does have some pretty deep ideas, especially in connecting the first film. Particularly the fact that Sarah was hunted by the Terminator 15 years prior, defeating it, to be locked up in a mental hospital eventually. Then she works a plan to escape from the hospital, only to run into what she thinks is the same Terminator, making her so afraid that she turns back towards the people who have kept her locked up. Then when she goes to kill Dyson, she herself becomes a Terminator. But realizes she can’t kill him because of her humanity, separating us from the machinesZ
@@nicolausteslaus How is it brain dead? Please explain. They did so many amazing action scenes. And awesome characters and great suspense. What makes it braindead?
No joke. The film is great, but anyone who tries to tell us it isn't more PG-13 next to the first movie, or light with its conclusion is deluding themselves. The first is simply darker and bleaker, and a horror film, whereas this is an action movie. And there should not be any John Connor.
My cousin was a security guard on the set when they shot that incredible stand off at the building. Said he was standing so close, the shockwaves from the explosion nearly knocked him off his feet. And the heat was, naturally, intense.
If someone had actually died making it, like the *Twilight Zone* movie, would you still be praising it as much? *Titanic* hospitalised a number of people in its production, as have a number of other movies. The movies may be great, but there is a good reason most people don't like Jim very much.
@@TheNotverysocial You're drunk. Go home. We're talking about impressive and positive experiences one can witness while working on a movie and you are spouting non related nonsense. If you want to talk about death go somewhere else.
@@mrblonde609 It's not nonsense, it's the truth. There is a clear separation of art and the artist. His movies are great, but nobody especially likes Jim very much. It's frankly a miracle no one died making his movies.
"What is wrong with your eyes?" I think he's asking that just in case some glass got in his eyes. He IS supposed to protect him, and that is a lot easier when he can see. That, or left untreated it could get infected.
"You had one line and you blew it. You used it to be a narc. Enjoy your stitches." And the stabbing sounds followed by the gushing of blood really added to my laughter.
Love that Linda got into amazing shape for this movie. It's when I realized as a youngun I'm into athletic women. Mackenzie Davis also had an amazing bod in Dark Fate.
Feel like you overlooked the subtlety of the sunglasses reflecting the character of the T800 and Sarah at various points; the part where Arnie loses the shades in the rescue of Sarah marks the point in the film where he starts becoming humanised, conversely, Sarah dons the shades when she, in effect, becomes a terminator herself - aiming to terminate Miles Dyson in order to alter the future - then losing them again as she regains her humanity. In the Director's Cut, there is an initial shorter dream sequence of the blast, which cuts away like you said it should - the longer dream sequence is then shown later on in the film to give a fuller view of the stakes she's up against, in her view, which then gives the character justification for becoming what she's been fighting against. Also, Eddie Furlong's voice started breaking during the filming of T2, so they had to go back and re-record alot of his lines, however, they kept the original audio for the scene where he's talking with the T800 while repairing the truck to keep the softer voice and make him seem more vulnerable as they build towards the ending.
@@emilandersen2195 It's based on the old saying from WW2 era "Everything but the kitchen sink." which means we have tried throwing everything at the enemy we can aside from throwing a kitchen sink.
It actually makes a lot of sense considering the terminator was slowly becoming more human like overtime. That heroic sacrifice at the end where he disobeys John and sacrifices himself by literally going against his programming is similar too.
