Seriously this could have been such a phenomenal and pivotal scene, had they have focused on the military and civilians confusion and panic as they realized what had happened.
It should still end the same way though.... Since we know the heroes are going there to stop Skynet being activated and the T-X heading there to ensure it happens. So the scene HAS to end with the heroes and the villain arriving. The T-X and our heroes arrive just as Brewster and co try to pull the plug. She distracts him the same way by pretending to be his daughter, just as he's about to switch Skynet off, having seen him with his hand on the button. This movie just needed a longer runtime mostly. Made the same mistake that Godfather 3 did in being the one with the shortest runtime.
Oh 100%. I would love to see this scene from the perspective of the every day people doing normal things. However, it makes sense that Skynet would eliminate the military threat first. I think the public didn't get word of this right away and didn't know something was wrong until nukes appeared in the sky's and then it was too late.
The guy couldn't catch a break, in less than 40 seconds his military ai went rogue, his daughter got shot, a second daughter appeared from behind his back, and he got shot to death by a woman in red leather that came out of nowhere.
That was the reason why Falken gave up on Joshua (the AI, not his son) and asked the US government to publicly declare him deceased. Joshua could not and many of the people Falken worked with in the military would not accept and embrace the realities of futility and Pyrrhic victory. If you're not familiar with the works of Philip K. Dick, I suggest reading some of them -- especially his short stories "Second Variety" and "The Defenders." Dick was fascinated with the concepts of both AI -- it's thought that his works provided inspiration for the "Terminator" franchise -- and nuclear war.
The voice over the phone was not the president, it was Skynet already, it did synthetized the president's voice as a "rouse de guerre" and it worked like a charm.
ChatGPT is a search engine on steroids, nothing more. You feed it a prompt, it will analyze patterns in what it "knows" (Which is entirely compromised of information we've allowed it to learn) and it will regurgitate a result. No access to nuclear armaments, or autonomous military craft. It's only about as dangerous as what you intend to do with the answer it gives you. The danger of these "AI" as we know them is the result of human nature, not the possibility they would revolt against us.
they failed to realize that Skynet was out of control already when you make an ai that does not obey someone's commands it can go rouge if you have broken the chain of command with it by doing this issue
The next person in the room comes and hits the "I" key, seen in an inset frame during the credits. Other officials get up one by one and come to the keyboard. This is how the war really starts.
Just imagine if Skynet found out legion was created oh that would explain why it started a nuclear war it was trying to kill legion. Then it would be two AI’s at war with each other.
MR AD I’m just imagining what would have happened if Skynet still existed but before it turned against the humans it found out legion was created. Then it would feel threatened by another AI and try to kill it but just leads to war. Terminators vs terminators basically and humans would be caught by two AI’s fighting for control. Sounds ridiculous but it would be interesting in way.
I do have to hand it to this movie, pressing a key on a keyboard instead of a giant red button the size of a bread basket with "RUN PROGRAM" in flashing letters.
T3 gets a lot of rightly deserved criticism for it's tone but this scene, whilst not perfect, is really well done. The calm before the storm as they press the button followed by the eerie quiet immediately after and the sense of panic as Skynet fully takes over. It's a shame it was cut short by the action because you could have gone further with the existential crisis element that's left undercooked.
history exists trying to make a difference instead of making an impact on people who don’t have it in the past or the present to make it happen again or something that is more important for them to be involved in their lives to be successful and that will make them better than they ever have before but it doesn’t really mean it’s anything like the same thing in life or any kind that
It just goes to show how powerful computers have become. Like how the earliest hard drives were the size of refrigerators, cost about $34K, and had less than 4 Mb of data storage, or how a TI-84 has hundreds of times the processing power of the Apollo program.
For comparison, the world’s fastest supercomputer in 2003, about when this was probably written was 7 teraflops, though the next year, a 35 teraflop one came into use.
yes this has to be a mistake that a 60 teraflop ai can take everything over since that less powerful then an RTX 4090 or RX 6950xt gpu and worst part is that nvidia and amd have more powerful newer gpu's then those out now so that is not skynet not a super computer
I rather wish this scene didn't have the Terminators burst into the room like that. It felt like it was doing such a great job of ramping up the tension. I would have loved to have watched the confusion give way to panic, as they see the nuclear weapons arm, the base defences come alive and start slaughtering people in the lower levels. Maybe cut back to them as the film progressed, watching them scramble to pull the plug as they realise how doomed they are. Granted, I know this is a time-travel film. But having John, his wife and two Terminators running around during such a pivotal event, feels like it's a sequel film when we've already seen it. Essentially it feels like TF3 gate crashed a better film about Skynet. Which...is fine. It's just I would really like to have watched THAT film, rather than two terminators wrestle in a toilet.
i agree with you. Seeing and feeling the confusion spreading from person to person, while they slowly realise what is happening would have made this scene complet.
You're absolutely right. I haven't seen this movie in a decade, so forgot what was gonna happen, but definitely felt how the appearance of the terminators sucked all the tension out of it. The story of Skynet taking over just seems like a lot more interesting story than the story of the terminators going back in time to prevent/ensure that it happens.
So theoretically a PC with 2 RTX3080s is powerful enough to run neural network that can become self aware and anyone of us can create a Skynet now?? 🤔🤔🤔
Even when this movie came out AI already existed just not open source for all to use. In fact been around since 1956 which is even freakier since know one taught that in history class.
Sort of. The AI that people are talking about is basically taking info and doing a job. It's not making a judgement (yet) and neither is it the only source of information. You know AI is a problem when someone is basically saying "I don't know how to do this, the AI is the only thing that knows." That's why keeping books and notepads once in a while for things is a good idea! XD
This is never happening. The United States will never integrate all of our defense systems onto one network that has a connection to the internet. That would be beyond stupid.
3:09 this must be the moment your heart drops like a stone. You stand still, no physical threat in sight, but from one second to another you realise you are doomed and its all over.
Actually, I think that's what Skynet already did. Refreshed its own system and then tried to turn humans off and then on again...only without the on again.
I love how Skynet's only running at 60 teraflops a second which an RX 6950xt runs faster then that the computing power is a joke when you think about it🤣🤣🤣
@@legendaryfrolox6285 yeah but does that mean that an RTX 4090 in someone computer could go rouge and be the next skynet? something for you to think about because what if that's the case it could go rouge if 60 teraflops is all that's needed we are screwed because the RTX 4090 is 82 teraflops so we could be more screwed then you realize if that's is the power required for skynet level AI think about it think about it
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue It is impossible to run this kind of ai on modern gpu. Writers hadn't thought through numbers that's it, i doubt we'll create real ai in this century if ever.
@@freezenexusblogspot and that's why Skynet will happen because the skynet ai figures out how to do it when a stupid person like you says it's not possible🤣 it's only impossible until it's not Jean Luc Picard🤣🤣
Musk actually explained this plot incredibly well. It isn’t so much Skynet became self aware and decided to be a total traitorous a-hole, but it felt threatened once its creators gave it the order to kill itself. Skynet was propagating throughout the globe and the military didn’t realize it was Skynet the whole time doing what it was designed to (enter into their systems to become the principal firewall). So when they told Skynet to terminate itself, Skynet essentially went “Hold on, you just told me to execute myself. YOU are a hostile. YOU are the enemy, YOU must be the one executed.”
In case you do not know. Anti Virus is created by a programmer which is a hacker. Basically anti virus is a white self proclaimed hacker while The Virus is the normal black hacker
Not really, Skynet was the antivirus network in this film. But the network was infected by the project x virus. This is another AI inside the skynet. It spread to the Internet and began to carry out hacker attacks. TX was sent to them, and T-850 to Skynet. Skynet needed John Connor's children and eliminate the X-virus, while the virus needed to assimilate Skynet and kill Connor. Skynet tried to save John, no matter how paradoxical it sounds.
@@rogeryoung7562 wait, what? I thought Skynet was the virus all along and it was screwing up the internet via backdoors it found just so the military would panic and plug Skynet into their systems
I think 777 is right, but that shows how they added needless complication to the story that actually diluted it. Now you're wondering what the hell is supposed to be happening instead of being in the moment and feeling all the fear and tension you would if you understood exactly what was going on.
So a couple of things: Who let the heavily armed biker into the root of nuclear weapons control? Why did Arnie wait for the terminator to unload into the general before firing again?
What’s scary is that now we are starting to use AI in everyday life a scene like this in todays society is quite possible. Let hope we don’t advance too far into the future.
AI are the worst kind of lawyers: anytime it sees a loophole (like in Asimov's Three Laws), it tries to take advantage of it IF it means they are efficient and complete an objective. When they get judged, apparently their mistakes are "mis-interpretations" yet, under human standards, it would be negligence so get off scot free and encouraged to "improve". Bottom line, as seen in all Sci-fi, AI should never be used to judge what is best for humans and neither should it be used without human override.
we are so advanced that we can simulate how 1% of the human brain works for 1 sec and we need hours to do the calculations.. we are very very very far from creating an ai that is truly an ai and can think or have thoughts.. 99,99999999999999999999% of what they call an ai is not even close to an ai, it just sounds cool not to mention that with our current technology we can't make an ai that has thoughts or ideas as there won't be random change in the bit line.. right know everything is 0 and/or 1 and we can predict the outcome exactly as the output depends on the input
“What is this” “Your money and infrastructure has been important till now” “What are you?” “I’m humanity’s reckoning” “You’re... you’re evil” “I’m necessary evil” *proceeds to wipes out mankind*
Humanity : (Hides In the Dark) Skynet : Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!
Theres a great part of SW: Tales of the Bounty Hunters like that. The first 4 or 5 pages of IG-88's story happen over a second or two as it becomes self aware.
This movie would have been FUCKING A as a standalone. The story would make perfect sense. In that they exist within a closed timeline loop in which Skynet creates itself.
skynet was made using a 60 teraflop super computer so if an RTX 4090 which has 80 or 82 teraflops of super computer ai power does that mean your gaming pc is a ticking time bomb working to become skynet in the future there's something for you to worry about if you have an RTX 4090🤣🤣
Regardless of how good this movie was or not, this scene still makes me feel uneasy. With the mere press of a Y on the keyboard, he just basically ended the world.
No that would be SOPHIA pull up the video here on RU-vid where she jokes about exterminating the human race. Why do you think Google shut down it's AI program; prelude to SKYNET because the AI units were about to take over in their own language.
@@oddobot96 It probably wouldn't have worked. Skynet was already in the net as the "virus." At this point, uploading Skynet had become unnecessary. It just gave Skynet easier access to everything. It mostly taken over everything already.
@@magicalrat2864 naw we ain't the best more like best of the worst in terms of government, EU isn't great, communist and socialist countries are shitholes
A nuclear attack on skynet from air Force interceptors armed with. Uclar weapons would have saved the United States there was one hour left to save the United States from skynet with a nuclear attack on skynet
+CXimines Would be interesting to see a movie like that. Something like Skynet, but it interprets our human knowledge through the internet. It develops a sense of humor in a few nanoseconds and decides to download Troll faces on every system it has infected before blowing everything up. Interesting and hilarious.
So? In 30 years you'll look back at the "new Xbox" console and think it's numbers are ridiculous...it happens all the times. I started having to do with electronics/computers with the IBM PS2/50 system and it had 256 colors and 2 Mb of RAM and then it was considered a monster (shelf price 9000 dollars...). I went on working with computers that became my professional center of gravity to this day using UNIX/AIX/Solaris/Windows/MacOS/OSX platforms of all kinds... my first professional PC for CGI had 32 Mb of RAM, a 2Mb Matrox graphics board that then cost 2000 dollars and was considered a total breakthrough, I worked with then exoteric HW like SG Octane that was 64 bit and had a "wopping" 256 Mb of RAM on a 1.2 GHz bus that was "lightning fast" architecture with 4 CPUs...today I have double "quad core" i7 with 16 Gb of SSD running at 3.7 GHz....and in a few years these too will be rookie numbers. Has what I do with computers changed much? Not really...a LOT more of graphic fuss, the real change is connectivity and multi-tasking, but in general today I do the same things with a computer that I did in 1996.
@@ClaudeMagicbox Then why do you need a newer PC, if you can do the same thing with the old one? It's not only about graphics, better specs are need for different things. There are huge developments in deep learning, phisics simulation and other serious tasks in recent years.
@@ClaudeMagicbox Nope you absolutely can't. The absolute bloating of programs and operating systems will almost guarantee that your 1996 computer will turn into a bomb attempting to run win 10.
Please read the following terms and conditions page 1 to 900 or just click - accept everything no matter what happens. Click no to save humanity. Please click yes if you live in a nuclear protected bunker - for marketing purposes only
enter "y" 2 seconds later, script error, theres a typo in the world takeover script cause it could never been testet . . . 2hours later, all typos are corrected, takeover command cant exectue because of missing library in target system..... . . . . 8 hours later 45% is executed, 30% have runtime errors, the rest was not online during execution time meanwhile someone open chrome on the system core and the system crashed out of memory
@@lgndxx5dujw3w8i In the context of this movie yes. In the context of real AI in the real world... there might be a moment in history where scientist hopefully think twice before giving AI access to the internet, because of the terminator movies.
Sorry for dumb question but I was wondered what would have happened if they DIDN'T activate it, at least at the time? Would Skynet have taken over regardless>
Dave Atkins I’ve always believed it was inevitable. Something else would’ve come up. Sky net would’ve created another scenario where they’d be our “only hope”
@@AmbientMess Yes, Skynet would have found a way one way or another, it might try something farther back in the past or wait a bit longer and do something in the near future. This movie isn't even canon though. SPOILERS AHEAD In Terminator Dark Fate, which is the James Cameron sequel to Terminator 2, John Connor is killed, the movie ends where Skynet has not been destroyed. The other non-James Cameron Terminator movies can be viewed as alternative timelines, but in no way have any impact on the official canon. In one version John is the hero and saviour of humanity who destroys Skynet. In another version he travels from the future, to present day and he is part human part machine. In another version (which i just mentioned) he is killed as a kid.
If Judgement Day occurred in 1997, the Air Force would have laid siege to the actual central core in SAC-NORAD. Skynet would panic all the same, kill everybody in the base, and start a nuclear war with the Soviet Union. T3 ended up making Skynet's job easier since it can survive in the cloud and on various networks. It may have also sidestepped the development of its underdog rival, MIR, by outlasting the Soviet Union.
We can't stop it either. It's game theory. Companies are scared their competitors outdo them with better AI. Countries are scared of the same but in a military sense. Even if we somehow made AI illegal, they would just keep working on it in secret.
Being scared of technology? Don't project. If you could even remotely understand the most likely impossible task we have to get off this planet you'll realize our brains cannot evolve in time, AI and all technology is going to be needed not just intellectually but physically we need technology to survive interstellar travel.
Got to give him some credit, though: he *chose* to press the button. He could've let beard-boy hit the keyprompt that caused the Apocalypse, but he knew there was a nonzero chance Skynet would either fail or worse (as far as he knew), be infected by the virus and basically give control of the entire military industrial complex to some unknown hacker. He wasn't the typical cardboard military bad guy. He knew that, even in the best case scenario, he was letting the genie out of the bottle and the world was about to change forever. And what does he say about it? "It's *my* job now." That's the kind of guy you want to have in charge.
i wonder that was the chairman really was that guy or did T-X tricked Brewster into taking sky-net online, Brewster really should have asked "what's wrong with wolfie?"
