Tesla CEO Elon Musk on U.S.-China tensions: There is some 'inevitability' to Taiwan situation 

I was thinking the same thing. You can watch the whole thing if you’re a “pro” subscriber and I don’t even know what that is and obviously won’t be paying for it.

Yeah wtf

Because they don’t like what he said probably

@@simonking195 I doubt that. See comment of Alex Larin.

Add them all to a queue play it.

哈哈哈，对

Elon musk: I love china223O==power993==transport 1358==628A

Good

😂😂😂

Musk really does. That's why it's time to stop supporting his businesses.

He is against russia in Ukraine war bro 😂

You are right. We should leave it to Sleepy Joe and Kamala

It would he like hiring a plumber who works on computers more than anyone who isn't a computer technician.

@@AG-mg9ly leave it to the politicians to handle politics 😮 probably the smartest thing you’ve said in a long time.

Elon is a genius and you are what?

​@@dadimamibebebibi-blog Elon isn't a genius. Didn't you see what he did with Twitter in the past year? A random dude picked up from the street would have done better.

So you are pro globalist?

@n1904I like the idea of pro globalism over isolation and a love pro democracy person (opposite of the CCP)... though I say Elon Musk is a Shill... he is the uncountered propaganda

Elon Musk is a Shill... he is the uncountered propaganda

everything would be fine if US stops meddling in foreign affairs. China is very willing to trade with US even after they rightfully get back Taiwan. but the US is so scared because they have been using economic sanctions to destroy countries for so long, they are afraid of retaliations.

@@wallstreetzoomerI'm guessing you're a shill. Taiwan was never owned by the CCP. If China takes Taiwan then count on the spread of Chinese communism, collapse of US industry as they will exploit all their new organ storage... I mean slaves... I mean humans... then count on the cost of microchips increasing and trade increasing unless you submit to the Chinese Pooh Bear as they will meddle in freedom of navigation, increase pollution and every country that touches the pacific

What’s your name and where are you from

@@ElonMuskab01 I am in Shanghai!

@@to2100 that’s great ,I’ll like to stay connected with you on telegram and share more great ideas together

@@to2100 Sure but this will be on well secured platforms I won’t do that here cause it not safe

@@to2100 Do you have Telegram app

should’ve listened on twitter spaces

Toyota and the Japanese space program are; leaps and bounds ahead of Elon musk. Toyota is coming out with hydrogen driven cars. Hydrogen; is the most abundant chemical on earth. The emissions.....WATER! You crying yet ...ELON??? JAPAN; JUST WRECKED A unmanned SHIP onto the moon. Soon ..they will be there!!!! Are you crying yet....ELON?

​@@DC-24 Digital content should be able to be consumed at length at anytime that was convenient for you to consume it. Big miss

@@mlaw1123 Totally agree!

Here you go: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PYGdm845lc8.html

He doesn't support China. If Tesla wouldn't operate in China I am sure Musk would be much more critical of the CCP, and Xi.

Because EVs wouldn't be possible without China. They own the entire vertical from lithium refining to battery production. That's why Tesla needs China so much.

@@Gongolongo Good point.

Huh

和特斯拉关系不大

Tesla have tremendous production in Shanghai also has tremendous sales in China, massive profits

because china is his boss?:

Ask him about the Lab Leak. I've never heard his opinion on COVID origins. I think that topic would be his Kryptonite.

He’s not going easy on them, he’s just saying that they’re obviously going to take Taiwan

He was asked about whether or not he was concerned about the growing tensions between China and the US. He answered it. He wasn't asked who is right, how to fix it, or other particulars. You are reading too much into it.

He also has production in the US and Germany. And soon he will have it in Mexico as well. Can you say that about Apple?...

@@angela1984a yea I think apple finally broke and is now creating iPhones in India per request of their gov

@@angela1984a yeah probably. Apple is worth more than Tesla

1.2 billion market 😂. All want to put a foot in

He has to kiss the CCP's butt hole so he can continue to operate in China

?

his China factory sells to Chinese citizens. His USA factory sells to North Americans. His European factory sells to Europeans.

NEVER!!!

Yes he will but where else can he go then is the problem. Apple has been trying and still trying to pull business out of China and moving to India but not so successfully and fast enough.

The CCP overlords told him he can't

Well it takes time there building it rn

Well, usa already stealing tsmc tech so no prob with that 😂

@@ufgbkgchehshid8115 yeah yeah yeah the only time it takes is red tape and bureaucracy getting their cut

@@alrizo1115 tsmc ?

​@alrizo1115 they're moving here, not really stealing it. Also, technically it's the intricate knowledge of chip design we're missing. The machines that make the machines are made in the US, the design of complicated chips are done in the US. both are shipped to Taiwan to put together.

Why do we always have white people larp-ing as Asians?

lol. so spirit of contract is only applied when the West is benefited?

The final agreed policy does not state that Taiwan is part of China the US merely acknowledges the CCP's view.

Haha, west gets interest when align China against USSR ,now they regret as you said

You don't have to rip them up, just follow the advice of the American arms dealers, attack the Chinese warships, just like you did to the Indians, and wait for the result.

exactly

so death is not inevitable? what a literary nerd you are

are you asking whether one could conceivably be immortal? I guess then yes, yes I do think technology can make death avoidable .@@cablejetn1017

How do?? Lockdowns applied to most businesses. If that s what you meant?

The American government isn't doing what it should, which is curbing the power of Uncle Pennybags.

Ok? What is he supposed to do, get involved with politics?😂

​@@mmundle941he did, a bunch of times on his Twitter pages

india is making semi bus conductor 🤣

Well said!!

the percentage of Taiwanese who support unification is less than 10%. That’s less than half the percentage of collaborators in the West who support the CCP which is at 20%. You know nothing.

I am Taiwanese China never owned Taiwan All Taiwanese people hate dictatorship Shameless China

That pretty much goes for every CEO in the world you comment like you made some profound statement lol.

You simply don't understand Tesla's mission hence this silly comment, If their mission is accelerating the world's transition to sustainable energy' then naturally they should be in the Chinese market. In this context can you see how your comment is ridiculous? No Xi is not boss....Tesla has the capacity to match output through Berlin and Texas....it's more their mission to change the status quo regardless of politics and war come what may.

​@@geraldg350 There are also companies that don't do whatever it takes o access Chinese market: Google, Meta, Netflix...

Pathetic

@@yfzhang5306 Google was building AI for chinese government and if you don't do what they want they lock you out again y'all act like there is some bad ass CEO that says F the CCP and their companies just operate as normal in China you're delusion.

The US got itself in a trap. It is obligated to defend Taiwan. This will mean WAR.

Taiwanese also want to be united with China because they are the same ppl....only US propaganda is br4inwashing their young population and fueI the fire

For the funny. Every time he opens his mouth he makes a joke of himself.

Because he's doing business in china?

Because there are Elon’s suckers.

Because he’s the smartest person on this planet. Libs are but hurt that they can’t control him.

Because everything he dipped his finger in ended up as a huge success.

OK BUT YOU KNOW THEY ALSO HAVE NUKES DO YOU?

lol, funny you say "covert" when literally everybody knows North Korea has a nuclear program

@@arealperson641 It was covert when it started. Like Pakistan, India

@@LongLivetheCapitalist Yes China has nukes, but would they risk having Beijing and Shanghai nuked? And other cities?

@@Caractacus969 Yes US has nukes, but would you risk having Washington and New york NUKED? And other cities? You could try, that's my advice. HAHA.

And no one talks about this if you voted for Biden it’s astonishing to me

Oh, so we're going back to the 1800s to decide this? Why? How do we choose what historical point to use? Seems like doing so is arbitrary or self-serving.

In 1936, when the Republic of China (ROC) was China’s government and Taiwan (Formosa) was a Japanese colony, Chairman Mao Zedong offered support to Korea and Formosa if their peoples wished to gain independence from Japan. Mao’s internationalist position suggested that 1) both Korea and Formosa have a right to independence, and 2) this is based on the right to self-determination. Mao did not claim that Taiwan has been an integral part of China for centuries, as insisted by the Chinese government today. Interview with Mao in 1936 EDGAR SNOW: Is it the immediate task of the Chinese people to regain all the territories lost to Japan, or only to drive Japan from North China, and all Chinese territory above the Great Wall? MAO: It is the immediate task of China to regain all our lost territories, not merely to defend our sovereignty below the Great Wall. This means that Manchuria must be regained. We do not, however, include Korea, formerly a Chinese colony, but when we have re-established the independence of the lost territories of China, and if the Koreans wish to break away from the chains of Japanese imperialism, we will extend them our enthusiastic help in their struggle for independence. The same thing applies to Formosa. Source: Marxists Internet Archive

The KMT isn't even in power in Taiwan or anywhere else though. Because Taiwan is a democratic country and the Taiwanese people voted the KMT out of power. So your narrative doesn't fly anymore

except mao wasn't even alive when OCP was enacted. nor was it a vision or legacy of his. but you're right, taiwan is part of chinese territory.

Actually, Taiwan is an authentic China, and its government were established before the so-called People's Republic which was created by the communists in 1950's.

Because its passport says Republic of China, its army is called the National Army of the Republic of China, formerly known as ROCNRA.

Issue the new passport and dimiss the army. or one country, two systems. What's the difficulty in that?

because Taiwan was part of China before the invasion.

@@Crom21 but it was never a part of the peoples republic of China

Bro where you been for 20 years none of this has changed since lol who are the original owners of China my dude and look now

everyone is winging it in life

Well said

I don't know that this is true. I think the CCP is well aware that their power rests on their ability to deliver a continuous increase in the quality of life for the Chinese population. Whether Xi Jinping is underestimating this fact is another discussion entirely.

@@jack99889988 What colonial power are u talking about here? Taiwan split into their own thing by their own choice from losing the war with the CCP. Most of their people want nothing to do with the mainland, ive been there this is what ive heard. Typical cnbc/cnn viewer, completely misinformed and misguided but full of conviction.

Look, no one cares about Taiwan, Imagine Texas is Taiwan and when the rest of the country refuse its "independence" efforts and some other country declare war on the U.S so Texas can become "independent" it would mean nuclear war. Think about that.

If CCP really didn’t care about the consequences then they would have done that years ago, rather than all talk and no show for the past 20-30 years. Taking over Taiwan by military force does no good to China at the end, so they would lose more than they would have gained. Not to mention the internal problems they would face if they had started a war.

Which one？

Taiwan chinese city

Province ​@@devindabuddhi7037

The official name of Taiwan you called is republic of CHINA.

Get some history lesson clown taiwan is a chinese city before the colonists

Rest assured PRC is not going to reunify with TW through a debate what's its right what's not. Believe me.

@@Peace-xl6pe it's a democratic country however

What you care about doesn't matter. You're nothing.

You are right but he is Taiwan under the framework of China

In fact there are no internationally recognized treaties, policies or even UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China. The CCP or PRC have no legal sovereignty: And to prove this: 1: October 1, 1949, at 3:00 pm in Tienanmen Square the formation of the Central People's Government under the leadership of the CPC, the government of the new state, was officially proclaimed. Mao declared victory to the people stating “The poor peasants have conquered the country; the poor peasants should now sit on the country.” “It is because we have defeated the reactionary Kuomintang government backed by U.S. imperialism that this great unity of the whole people has been achieved. In a little more than three years the heroic Chinese People's Liberation Army, “ The CCP won the civil war and the PRC was formed and the ROC escaped to the still official Japanese island of Formosa in 1949 The war is over. 2: The Cairo Declaration 1943 discussed the possibility of handing the island of Taiwan to the ROC. This discussion required a treaty to become official and was never implemented. FACT 3: The Treaty of San Francisco: When Japan relinquished its sovereignty of Taiwan with The Treaty of San Francisco after the ROC invaded the Japanese island, China was not even invited. The treaty was signed by 49 nations but both the ROC and CCP were NOT present. FACT 4: : The Taipei Peace Treaty: Due to objections by The Soviet Union The Taipei Peace Treaty 1952 was created. FACT Article 10 of the Taipei Peace Treaty stipulates that “nationals of the Republic of China shall be deemed to include all the inhabitants and former inhabitants of Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores).” Therefore the Taipei Peace Treaty transferred Japans sovereignty of Taiwan to ALL the inhabitants living of the island NOT to mainland China. FACT The inhabitants in 1952 were the ROC escapees, Taiwanese Aborigines, Japanese descendants, Dutch descendants, Portuguese descendants, previous Chinese descendants. THE ISLAND WAS NOT HANDED TO MAINLAND CHINA. 5: Taiwan Relations Act 1979 (release at the same time as One China Policy signed by the US and Taiwan): The TWA factually proves that the US is not meddling in Taiwan's affair it is merely fulfilling its obligations as per the agreement. To quote from TWA: "Declares it to be the policy of the United States to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, ".... "Authorizes the President or any department and agency to conduct and carry out programs, transactions, and other relations with respect to the people on Taiwan." Therefore the Pelosi visit or any official governmental visit is legitimate and of no concern to the CCP. TWA also declares: "that the United States shall provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character and shall maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or social or economic system, of the people of Taiwan." Therefore again the US is NOT meddling into Taiwan/China affairs it is again fulfilling its obligatory agreement irrespective of the CCP's propagandist responses. 6: “UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CCP as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The officially written UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China. 7: Taiwan's Constitution stating that Taiwan is also worthless: Firstly it was created in 1946 when Formosa still legally belonged to Japan. Secondly, constitution do not legally determine sovereignty. A perfect example of this are Putin's recent changes to Russia's constitution claiming half of Ukraine are worthless. Taiwan’s constitution has never been changed in order to maintain the status quo to appease the CCP and US to minimise the risk of a war. Therefore as clearly demonstrated above, Taiwan is not part of China. The only legal way that the CCP can unify with Taiwan is via an official written treaty.

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Taiwanese have every right to decide whether to be Chinese or not, but Taiwan belongs to China, and it is common sense that local residents never decide whether a region has independence or sovereignty.

well, what's your iq level?

It's a different situation than Russia and Ukraine, it's almost unanimous that the people of Ukraine doesn't want to join Russia. Taiwan there's a sizeable portion of the population is for the joint of China and Taiwan. Push comes to shove, the likely hood of an actual war is not possible, maybe small military struggles and intimidation, but when China makes move, Taiwan will inevitably join China without a struggle, whether or not the US wants to make that process more messy is another story.

I like reading the comments like this because it reinforces my feeling towards people like you: arrogant and stupid…knows nothing about another country and never even try to learn a bit, yet judge that country like the expert 😂 …

@thundercock2029 The US has stated they will take direct action if Taiwan was invaded by China. Basically if the question is “when” and not “if” then world war 3 is going to happen. Judging history, there will definitely be a world war 3! Humans can never just agree and be peaceful so far.

@@conocosz the percentage of Taiwanese who support unification is less than 10%. That’s less than half the percentage of collaborators in the West who support the CCP which is at 20%. You know nothing.

@@jeffchunPOV: When you are brainwashed by your media

Hahahaha u white boys are hilarious lol

Wow, where did you get that impression? Name one country in Southeast Asia which is not the Philippines and which has a serious fight with China over the South China sea. As for the Taiwan issue, not a single country outside Japan and South Korea in Asia has meddled in China's internal affairs. Get your facts straight first please.

@@明叔杂谈 Japan and Korea?

@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 Japan and Korea are not Southeast Asia.

😂 I think no one cares about Taiwan, all the major countries have a ONE CHINA policy which means they all agree Taiwan is part of China. So I dont understand under what grounds should other countries get involved?

whole 1hr interview is behind a paywall on their site for "pro" subscribers

hahaha. good one

666

That's just China's opinion. Taiwan and its allies have another opinion. Elon can't afford to upset the Chinese government because a lot of Tesla business is in China.

@@tdrm Look up in the dictionary what inevitability means. It means it WILL HAPPEN like it or not.

​@@tdrm whats taiwan gonna do? fight the mainland in definitely? china aint going anywhere. taiwan is tiny has limited means to sustain any conflict for more than a few month. There is no plausible scenario inwhich taiwan comes out a winner in a conflict with china. The smart thing is to negotiate an settlement and resolve the situation diplomatically

@@tdrm Able is right. Cope more.

just go back to bilibili and shill there.

If the US is defending then it means it wasn’t the one who started WWIII. You’re not fooling anybody with your appeasement nonsense

Yes, Elon Musk does NOT live in the bizarre fantasy land of the current US administration and mainstream media. He COULD have gone ever further and pointed out that the foreign affairs policy of nearly EVERY nation in the world, including every major western nation, features something called the "One China Policy", which specifies that Taiwan is a part of one China. There are 13 minor countries that recognize and have diplomatic relations with Taiwan and not China: Belize, eSwatini, Guatemala, Haiti, the Holy See, the Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Paraguay, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and Tuvalu. Yes, the US and European nations also mention that the Taiwan issue should be resolved peacefully, but anyone with open eyes can clearly see that the US wants to use Taiwan as a disposable containment tool to control the rise of China. Of course despite this policy, the US and their captive European and western, even Asian allies are sending legislators to visit Taiwan and talk about how Taiwan is a country, has the right to make its own decisions, etc. This doesn't change the fact that NONE of these nations recognize Taiwan as a member of the UN, none have embassies in Taiwan, etc. Maybe at some time in the future, the US will slip another new rule into its "Rules Based International Order", a fake construct not related to international law, not codified or written down, something akin to Facebook Community Guidelines, as in "you've violated our community guidelines". At that point, the US will discover that China is deadly serious about the Taiwan issue. As Elon said, you can just read the lines; there's no need to read between the lines. To be completely honest, I should disclose that I live in Taiwan and have been here for over 30 years. My priority is the safety of Taiwan. My country, America, will throw Taiwan under the bus in a minute, just as they have done with Ukraine.

You should never trust Chinese 's communist they are liars and devil

The us has no way out, it is committed to defend Taiwan, which means war.

US actually owned the TMSC. Some migration of the production facility is already happening

Please do not listen to Peter Zeihan. He has no credentials on anything related to China and all of his videos are unrealistically anti-China. They are baseless and doesn't hold facts. He doesn't give evidences for hus arguments and rather looks at things from emotion than facts. He is quite deranged about China

Your first point make sense, but the second is a bit stretch. How can anyone even make predictions 17 years out about any subject when AI advancements are accelerating this quickly today. Doubt anyone can even imagine what the world is like in 17 years, let alone how China will be doing.

wait, are you saying that 700 million be gone in the next 17 years? Mr Peter Zeihan had to be joke then because no way

Bro, do the math - I might have some swampland in Florida to sell you

You guys say this all the time. Russia recently took down patriot missile systems. US most advanced. Don't pick another with a foe, faaaaar stronger than Russia.

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I am glad that many people in US like you are still having the mindset of "China = cheap labor". Please continue with your arrogance.

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How so? Or did you just assemble word salad to try to look smart??

Could you explain to me how Taipei can be a province of China (Peoples Republic) if it has a unique passport and military?

@@YehHuo Basically the military of Taiwan is still the corp Chiang Kai Shek brought to the island, where was and still is a part of ROC legacy territory, when he was defeated in 1949. And basically Taiwan passport is still the same passport since the regime and their constitution is consistant, it's just the international society feels bad for poor mainland people and allows them to issue their own temporary passports in addition.

@@YehHuo So no it's not entirely true but the other way around: China is and will still be some rogue provinces of Taiwan until both sides agree on otherwise.

@@YehHuo because it will take mainland China back

​​​​@@shangchi_ai The ROC/KMT was founded in China back when Taiwan was part of the Japanese empire, and fled from China to Taiwan in 1949 and oppressed the Taiwanese people as a military dictatorship for 4 decades. The Taiwanese largely preferred Japanese rule over the ROC/KMT dictatorship. But since Taiwan became democratic in the 1990's, Taiwan belongs to the Taiwanese people - that is what a democracy is, isn't it? And the Taiwanese people overwhelmingly want nothing at all to do with China. They just want to stay an independent democratic country and to be left alone. You're trying to portray a foreign government in exile constitution onto a now democratic population that was oppressed by that foreign government in exile (ROC/KMT) and overwhelmingly disagrees with its territorial claims. The KMT isn't even in power anymore because the Taiwanese voted them out for being too cozy with China

Why does the US love war so much? Why do they try to "free" other countries when their own people are sufferiing. Look at the destruction in the middle east. Lives destroyed. The world was so afraid of dying from a virus but ironically want to end lives in wars now that the virus subsided. It isn't about saving anyone. It is about the big thing called defense where a lot of money is to be made from corruption and fear mongering. Guess what ...most of your drug APIs also come from China.

China already demonstrated they can surround the island with their ships and launch missiles from the mainland. As for allies, no one is obligated to defend Taiwan, there's no signed contracts or anything, Taiwan has no military allies. Any country going to war with China would be suicide on their part. China is not a tiny country you can just push around, good luck with that. Anyways, I don't think China will ever go to war with Taiwan. They will continue with peaceful reunification until it happens.

number 2 is false number 7 is also

Musk isn't saying that China would find economic success in a takeover, he's saying that it's an inevitability. Short of a world war, of course. Realpolitik is not necessarily an incorrect assessment of world politics.

If you think the chinese are smarter than putin, i will enjoy my popcorn tremendously.

😂 Yes, he was like: You dont even need to read between the lines.

😂

And that is how the CCP withers on the vine

@@cheongseaksam With withering like that who need vitality.

@@bobcharles7716 it’s be the CCP’s version of vitality so I would assume everybody who isn’t a CCP lackie

@@cheongseaksam No. China economic, military, political influence, technological....growth under CCP management is without an equal by every objective measure. That is Just fact you can't just be delusional and wish it away.

@@bobcharles7716 growth under CCP management had equals in the growth under the NSDAP or Imperial Aid Association

True. Nothing more. Usa already building tsmc fabs in arizona so when everything gets going good, taiwan has no use for them.

Exactly. All the BS about “democracy” and “human rights” is laughable. Americans could care less about Chinese people living in Taiwan. . Just more fake reasons for the US to stir up trouble and be a thorn in Chinas side

america wants taiwan to be the next ukraine, weaken china's economy and military by dragging them into a war

100% Washington acts like Taiwan is a vassal nation of ours. It isn’t. They’re China’s neighbor; I believe China has claimed Taiwan as there’s far before our military began intervening in the South China Sea.

USA uses Taiwan to bottle-up the Chinese Navy within the first island chain. Taiwan under Chinese control would mean the end of US naval supremacy in the western Pacific. That is the reason for denying Taiwan to China. It’s not the chips.

china would not if taiwan do not declare indepedance and get rid of ROC title in constitution law

Could you explain to me how Taipei can be a province of China (Peoples Republic) if it has a unique passport and military?

@@YehHuo Taipei is not of province of China but in fact the capital city of the China also named as the Republic of China. People of Taiwan are all holding a Republic of China passport. Republic of China of course is China. This is just too obvious 😊

@@YehHuo taiwan is not province of PRC right now but its a province of ROC( republic of china), ROC and PRC are all china, but if taiwan says it will indepedant and get rid of ROC, then PRC has right to intervene

@@YehHuo Idiot, the official website of the international ISO code clearly shows that the Taiwan passport is subordinate to the Chinese passport, and its status is a province of China. In addition, Macau and Hong Kong also have their own passports, and they are all part of China.

And that is how the CCP withers on the vine

@@cheongseaksam yes!🎯⚓

@@cheongseaksam hey, that rhymes. Lol

Mr. Guo is a businessman. DPP and KMT are politicians. Mr. Ko is a true leader for the sake of Taiwan people.

Peace through subservience