Does the Cybertruck live up to the hype? Tom Moloughney puts it to the test in our 70 MPH Range Test. Read the full article here: insideevs.com/reviews/717680/...
Who would have thought you would get a better range if you made a more aerodynamic truck? The question is really towing. The aero will not help when you tow a brick behind it, and the range will suffer disproportionality compared to other "not as aerodynamic" trucks. It's all physics.
@@theflew Almost no one does long distance towing. It's a completely stupid metric that men like to get their dicks out and wank about. What are people going to tow and why would they be dragging it so far behind them? Why would it be an issue if you could just charge up in between?
The car runs the last few miles on 0% until it dies to hit epa range. They make it say 0% early to prevent people pushing it and dying in the side of the road. Like how cars arent empty at E, they have a small amount of reserve fuel past empty
Should do 2 testings per vehicle at a minimum. One during winter and one during summer to compare how temperature fluctuations affect the mileage range.
As they say" Your mileage may vary".Driving styles ,weather , condition of car, terrain, heck I was told Washing exterior of that airplane can affect / give it more range.
I think the tire pressure is accurate on the car. I've noticed on my car the tires facing the sunny side of the road will be a pound or two higher than those on the shade side.
300+ miles and 4+ hours non-stop driving is far more than our bladders and aging bodies could tolerate. We use SuperChargers for BIO breaks and stop as needed. The car seldom ever needs to charge but one of us needs to stop. It’s a good start for such a large vehicle.
We buy vehicles for their capability. Pickups are an example. We don’t use them all the time for the heavy loads we can place in the bed just as we don’t drive our sports cars at full tilt all the time. I found driving through the Navajo Nation and driving through Thailand one can only drive supercharger to supercharger. If I still had my Ford Everest we wouldn’t be using the near 700km range in between bladder stops but it still did add flexibility. The argument that we just need 300 miles of range is just an excuse for a shitty range. They try desperately to sell you that 500km 300miles is all you need but is just a sales technique. Just like a bland interior is “minimalist” and ‘desirable’ when really it just means featureless. My bride can drive the 218km to our favorite beach hotel, and have 49% left. When I drive the same route, I have 23% left. We have a Model Y performance. If you have to drive on AP and chill mode to go anywhere, why would Tesla EVER make another performance model or a sports car. - it’s because people love to drive.
That's false perceptions in all directions. Learn the real world before making worse assumptions. It makes you part of bots (paid account) for propaganda. *Here the truth:* 1. You need to count the reserve 20% charge. 2. You do not charge the battery up to 100%. *100% - 20% - 20% = 60%* 60% of 300+ miles = 180+ miles. That's not including towing. Another real world situation: 1. Your time to charge that varies. 2. How fast the charging station. 3. In line to get your car charge in charging station. 4. Some station charge for parking. 5. Time lost just for charging.
Listen if you want a Cybertruck or an EV go ahead with it. I could care less. I am 50, I just drove straight from Southern WI to Eastern, TN 731 miles non-stop. A little over 10 hours. I put a 60 gallon tank on my 2024 3500 and have around 900-1,100 mile range not towing. WHY? Well if you pull 15,000 lbs that number will drop. However we did tandem drive towing straight to Boston which is 950+ miles in a hair over 15 hours and one stop. 300 miles is OK for people staying local. Once you pull something or if you value your time even 500 miles is not enough. For instance why did I drive from WI to TN straight through? I wanted to get home to my family. As being on the road for business is only so much fun.....
I won't even need to supercharge since I will never drive more than 5-6 hours a day, so even slow charging at 22kW/h is enough for me with a 1h lunch break and 3 shorter breaks.
@@RxPharmerICE lovers are just on a perpetual cope as electric cars just keep coming, getting better and dominating more and more of the market, while they are still driving cars designed for the Eisenhower era. Notice how they stop complaining about pain at the pump long enough to rage on electric cars - but then immediately go back to whining about gas prices. Lol.
It will get better. Tesla is always cautious with the charge curves of new packs. Also, V4 superchargers are confirmed to be 350kW chargers. A few years ago, Musk said that Cybertruck would be able to charge on megachargers. Not sure if that will ever happen though
I wonder how much more range it would get if it had non-off-road + reasonably sized tires/wheels. These 35s are just massive. Good showing on the range test tbh. Idk if Tesla opting to or the EPA forcing them, but the range figures have been getting very accurate lately on all the models. Great work as always Tom.
@@jeffw8218 Wheels make huge difference in ranges. You can easily see ~5-10% efficiency improvements with smaller wheels/tire setups in basically any EV
wow Tom, that is pretty good range all things considered! For the life of me I can't figure out what elon was thinking on the 500+ mile range for the tri-motor? musta thought they could solve for energy density per kilogram and volumetric energy density, and at such a low price point!! Thanks for what you do in the ev world brodda!
Tom, the bad news is I can't find myself able to stick to 70 mph, in my state, you get run over. So, most of the time it's 78 mph which is 13-14% less efficient than 70. We just did another 900-mile trip in our Rivian R1T. At 78 mph, in rain, mid-50 degrees, w/22" wheels we got 276 miles. The best range we have gotten was last summer...it was hot and we took all 2 lane back roads and got close to 390 miles. We stopped at 370 but still had some juice left, thus my guesstimate of 390. 2.5 miles/kwh is very good for the Cybertruck given it's not so great aero.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Tom, always appreciate your videos. I'm still torn over the Cybertruck. Range and the smallish battery is one of my concerns. In a realistic use case, 75-80 mph you would have been around 256 miles or so...in line with what Kyle C. got. For my use, it's not enough. We do too many road trips and Cybertruck's charging curve is not great either.
8:30 tire pressure -- AFAIK those TPMS sensors go to sleep somewhat fast after inactivity. Tesla did an OTA some time ago to actually tell you how many minutes or hours ago those numbers are from.
Question for you Tom, what happens if that central screen fails and goes totallly black and you can't change gear such as putting the car into park? I've seen posts where the central screen has gone black on a Model 3 but at least it still had the stalks to change gears what happens with this new system they have developed you just drive around the block until the car dies having run out of electrons?
I’ve got a 2017 P100D which is a blast to drive but is only good for about 170-200 freeway miles which is WAY off the shown 285 miles of range that is shown on the dash when it’s full.
Tom, your range tests are the best! I sill frown a bit when you say things like "we used 120 kilowatt hour". It's OK (in fact more accepted) to use the plural "kilowatt hours". Otherwise, might as well say "We went 302 mile". 🙂 "120 kilowatt hours" correctly expresses that 120 units of the energy measure (each equivalent to one kilowatt being used for one hour) have been consumed. It's the standard and widely accepted way to express this in scientific and practical contexts.
it's a truck... on monster tires... on the highway. It did pretty good! (Note there will always be people who complain no matter what - they used to say it's not-- aerodynamic... but then later they'll say it got good range only because it is-- aerodynamic... can't win with those people)
I some times like tests that are real-trip ones. They tell you what happened with fewer control factors. Model 3 LFP REAL-TRIP TEST after 18,000 miles | Spring Range & Efficiency Check ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vaDd4XHD4WE.html But always love Tom’s presentation & ways of doing the tests, as well.
No on ever states the EPA estimate is a COMBINED estimate. As in: its city and highway driving (an estimated amount that an average person would do). All highway is not COMBINED. As you know, EVs get better range when driving in the "city" at slower speeds. Find out what the EPA percentages are for "City" and highway driving is then replicate that to see if actual results match up. If you don't replicate this, the comparison is totally a misrepresentation.
Reason why you don't have FSD yet on your Cyber Truck is because of the rear wheel steering. The tail path is different than a car and could create incidents. It will get figured out but it was not specified when.
Fair test but as an fyi you left the vehicle outlets on, should have turned them off. Also focused suspension setting consumes less energy as that's the unergized valve position.
I'm pretty sure it would have stopped at 308-310 miles. It had a little more than 2 kWh left, so it definitely wouldn't have gone more than 310 miles, IMO.
My 2023 Kia will tell you to drive first before giving PSI . Drive a block shows the PSI. My f150 gives PSI soon as I turn on truck. Must be an accuracy thing.
Great impressions! 300 odd miles, 4hrs. of drive, what else does someone want? But pulling into the charging sight: What does the TOYOTA have to do with anything? Tesla, get the FSD running on the trucks! This is BS again, and again is fair to say because why is a customer paying for something that is promised?
We now now that Tesla needs to gather new, presume all new, training data for the CT Your helping. This would have been very difficult to without customer trucks on the road.
I would like to see EVs (all brands ) tested in extreme cold, and extreme heat. I watched the whole EV movement stop frozen this past winter in Chicago and it was colder than minus 20, even the charging stations were down, it’s on You Tube titled A LOT FULL OF FROZEN ROBOTS , ,or the other side of the spectrum in Arizona last summer they had a record setting near 30 days of 110F , which destroys lithium batteries, meaning you can’t use your car and you must keep it in an air conditioned garage, or your battery will be ruined, battery technology is advancing so fast that obsolescence, causes massive depreciation, this is undeniable and will be problematic when trying to secure car loans.
What exit? Go to Costco bring all the tyres down to 30psi then re-inflate to 50 with their free Nitrogen. Should help stabilise the inflation pressure. But ambient temperature will always affect PSI. Yep check PSI after drive…
Haha. The cyber truck is an already bad experiment gone wrong. You say cyber truck, sone say oversized freezer on wheels, others say eyesores, I say WTF is that junk.?
Imagine how much further it would have gone if the truck was actually designed to be aerodynamically efficient instead of being a rolling monument to one man's ego.
@@boostav it's aerodynamic for a brick, sure, but Tesla usually does way better. Instead of punching down, punch up and compare against the Rivian R1T, which has a significantly better coefficient of drag vs the Cybertruck
It is decent efficiency. Nothing to brag about. Truck is way smaller than F150 lighting. Cabin space is much less than Lightning. Half baked vehicle when compared to lightning features and price. Why would you bother to buy one. Or let's put this way would you buy this fiasco if it was not built by Tesla.
You mean the guy from Out Of Spec Reviews? You mean the guy who took 3 other people in the Taycan and drove it about 50 mph on the highway. You mean the guy who achieved over 400 miles in the Taycan and declaring it very efficient when its EPA range was in the low 200 miles? Yeah, Kyle Connor is a big liar.
who cares about your videos Tom cause you first one with the cyberturck your short video and saying what your want to do with that truck so now i saw who cares causse of your first video
Stop doing range tests on EVs! Each EV has a different mix of efficiency for the speed, depending on type of motor, aerodynamics, and many other factors. I see so much FUD out there by the anti-EV crowd about EVs or a specific EV not meeting its stated range, and it’s because of videos like this.
@@gelu88 The EPA does objective tests. People off the streets who don't know how to conduct these tests shouldn't be doing them. Plus, what constitutes going on a highway? Some EVs may be relatively more efficient at highway speeds around 65 and others might be more efficient at highway speeds around 75. Some might do better at inclines than others. Some might do better on weathered pavement. etc.
