Today we dive into a reoccurring problem I’ve helped many Tesla owners address. Their rear tires wearing out way to fast! Www.make-it-Modular.com Www.N2itive.com
Good vid. Most OEMs avoid 0, or positive, camber at all costs as it's unsafe. Tesla's adjustable ride height changes camber, like any suspension somewhat would, as you raise the car. At normal, or low heights it goes almost a full degree more negative. With air suspension set higher, it gets less negative, leaving tire wear the balance between unsafe camber at high and poor tire wear at low/normal. Model 3/Y don't feature adjustable heights and I assume Tesla allowed less negative camber as a result. Thus, also less tire wear on these cars. I put Kmac's solution on my MS, using a one off run they gave Electrified Garage (don't see them anymore, but were ~$400 if memory serves). If running one of these cars for ~3+ years, I'd say even $1000 solutions make more sense than an extra set of tires. My car is a coil P85D, on OEM Bilsteins, lowered about an inch after we re-grooved the spring perches down. This practically necessitated a camber solution.
I tried something like this a few years ago on my 2014 model s. The problem for me is not the after market parts but the fact after I installed them no one would do an alignment on the car. I tried small shops and big name shops, but as soon has I said the name Tesla no one would touch it. Most of them said they did not have the specs to do it. I did found some specs online for using the after market parts but still no one would touch it. And of course Tesla would not touch it because it had after market parts on it. So needless to say I had to put back the factory parts on the car. So until I can find some shop Brave to touch it I guess I will have to leave the ride height at medium. This is the best setting I found to keep the tires from wearing prematurely. It would be nice to put the car at the lowest ride height to get the most range and performance but I want to keep my tires as long as I can.
So, if your scraping that tire then your're also KILLING the millage efficiency per watt. My question is, why wouldn't Tesla want to increase the miles per watt? I would love to hear their answer!
They don't care, I've owned a 2019 performance and I now have a 2022 Plaid between the 2 of them I've gone an average of 10k a set of rear tires. ( 3 sets on the 2019 and 1 on the 2022 and every time Tesla has done an " Alignment " The last time I asked what I can do and the service manager suggested an aftermarket camber arm THAT they won't touch if any warranty work needs to be done. Incredible, such bullshit.
My model 3 performance killed the inner tires too. I believe the factory intentionally cambers out the cars so there is less contact patch and therefore better range. That’s my theory. 😂 I too have changed the rear camber to 0 and I’ve noticed it does consume more wh/mi.
So, overall the problem is what? (I'm trying to figure out what to do with my $130,000 Tesla P85D that wears out tires fast.) I bought it new 8 years ago. A Tesla Service person told me one time (at a service center) to buy and install a part on my suspension to fix the problem. I told him the car was under warranty and I didn't know what part to buy or how to modify it to fix the tire wear problem. I never thought I'd buy such an expensive car that didn't have adjustable camber arms. Is this the problem?
@@MattSoppa Oh, so there is no way to correct the tire wear? I thought those aftermarket adjustable camber arms provided a fix. My Tesla didn't wear the tires out this severely when it was new, but they still didn't last much over 10,000 miles. I should have known something was wrong because I bought a new Tesla from Tesla that was an "Inventory" car with about 4,000 miles and the tires were wore out. I tried to get Tesla to put on new tires. I had already bought the car and had flown across the country to pick it up and drive home. I was shocked the tires were so bad. They already had the money and refused to cancel the sale. After 3-4 days complaining they agreed to replace 2 of the 4 tires. I drove home over 1,000 miles on 2 good tires and 2 bad tires.
Where it looks like he got near zero, I bet awesome. Some kits get camber down to -.5 to -1.0 degrees. As explained, toe adjustment range can limit how much camber to you can take out and getting toe wrong is worse on wear than running a bit of camber. Also, bear in mind square 245/45/19 setups (not staggered 265's, or higher) have a lot to do with how much you'll experience this problem, as will wider wheels. I have 280k on two MSs and estimate I'm back to 20-30k, with rotation, per set of tire longevity using a solution that took about 1.25 degrees out. They still wear on the inside, but cord doesn't show up until the middle is near the wear bars, anyway.
besides the extra cost for numerous tire replacements, there's nothing worst than wasting hours at Tesla or independent tire shop for tire replacements. let's face it, nobody really wants to sit in the crappy waiting area of tire shop for an hour or two. Having to do that 2 or even 3 times a year is ridiculous. :(
My 2020 model X performance has 11k miles and both front tires are worn out on edges and one has steel belts fraying on edge. Back seem normal wear. Can the front be adjusted correctly? Alignment suggestions in San Diego CA?
I have had no problems with the all-season Continentals. The car is 1000 HP and 4500lbs Much different than a Mustang. I will get about 20K out of mine.
Had same problem on my 2022 model y. At 19000 I put on my 3rd set of tires. They said they put in new knuckles on all 4 wheels. They blame the accident one month after I got t-boned when a guy ran a red light.
Not having its customers ride around in the wet/snow, underinflated, on the high setting (+/0 camber), doing rapid lane changes/turns and then spinning out, would be another reason.
BTDT. Use a Sawzall with a reciprocating 4-6" metal cutting blade. Sacrifice the arm you're taking out and be carful not to cut the sub-frame (obvious).
Nice looking work. Do you happen to know if Elon voids the warranty if 3rd parties like yourself are installing aftermarket parts and re-aligning? ... Thanks.
@@MattSoppa thanks man. Its crazy that I've watched dozens of videos of the S model and nobody mentions it until I heard it here and from vehicle virgins. Why isn't everyone complaining about it forcing tesla to change
Tesla has always been horrific from day one but you all keep worshiping it because it's a fast electric car. That's what you get, deal with it. You deserve it.
