The speakers in the LR are FAR superior to the RWD version - it's absolutely amazing!! Stalks don't make any difference - you soon get used to it - as Elon says, the best part is no part I love the Highland, but waiting for maybe Juniper but definitely the Model 2
@@tdtesla thanks for the comment. I think it really depends on where you live in the world. I think if you live in the USA honestly, the indicators are not a problem at all as most driving is straight and then just a left or right turn. however, in European countries like the UKUK, we have so many small and mini roundabouts linked together that the target is always moving and the buttons then change orientation from left right to side-by-side to upside down so it is a bit more tricky here.
@@MBrownAnd it's not just roundabouts. Many roads, in many countries, are curved, so the wheel is turned when you have to indicate into another road. The US must have most of its roads in grid patterns.
I am so sick of people complaining about the stalks. I have no problem, I think it's futuristic. Like anything do it enough and it becomes muscle memory. If people don't like it then don't buy. As soon as Highland performance is available in United States I'm buying it!! Stealth Grey black interior. My first EV.
haha not everyone can adapt to new tech very well. I m ok with it but i think a lot arent. The real problem is they havent even try driving it for a while to know.
In the USA I don’t think stalks are a problem as you don’t have a huge amount of roundabouts. You primarily drive straight indicate left or right so it’s easy and a non issues. In Europe we have these so you have to legally indicate when the wheel could be outside down, to the side etc
I am so sick of people bending over and accepting these changes despite them intentionally going against the safe, reliable, standard. There's already been issues of reliability with those buttons and it's nearly impossible to use your signal while the wheel is turned. It's unsafe. Don't bootlick these companies. I've tried them, tried to like them. It's a backwards move and only fanboys can't acknowledge it.
Yes, the indicators on the steering wheel for me is a dealbreaker, I just can’t understand how people say you’ll get used to them because it’s physically completely impossible to use them safely as far as I’m concerned. You either don’t indicate or take your eyes off the road and fumble around for the buttons half way around a roundabout, both situations putting pedestrians and cyclists in particular at risk.
If Tesla brings steer by wire to the Model 3 that may help with the turn signal buttons, since it reduces how much you have to turn the steering wheel.
Brillent Review Mark , many thanks for posting. Just ordered and paid for my new model 3 today & now just waiting for delivery date confirmation. Thank you so much again for your top review. Tesla are lucky to have you reviewing their cars.
No I have driven the new Highlander and you quickly retrain your brain and fingers to correctly control left and right turning flashes easily once you have driven the new Tesla 3 for some hours.
@@RichieLanderos it’s in the context of a roundabout with multiple exits, where you have to press the signal button at the right time while the wheel is in a rotated position
I own a 2021 Model 3, and I am so glad mine has a proper turn signal and stalk for gear selection. What a horrible idea to remove that and replace it with a button. People forget to use their turn signals enough already, which causes many accidents. Changing the functionality will make this problem even worse. The reason auto designers went with the stalk is because it is ALWAYS IN THE SAME PLACE. That's important. Horrid idea by Tesla to remove the turn signal stalk. +1 for the blind spot lights, -5 for the turn signal.
Hey, thanks for the comment yes that’s the thing for me. The car is almost perfect so it’s such a shame they had to remove this little tiny piece which makes a big difference.
Great review Mark. You’re exactly right with the stalks. Yes you can get use to it, yes it’s not a dealbreaker but it’s not an improvement. If you don’t live in the US, this will be a pain. No USS is also not an improvement (at least for now).
Great video Mark, really enjoyed it! Totally with you re. the stalks, I think it's a huge backward step. I was holding off buying a M3 until the refreshed model came out, and now that it has, I'm afraid the lack of stalks is a deal breaker. I'm so disappointed because it's such a beautiful car. I guess my choices are either wait for a retrofit to become available (apparently there's a company already working on this) or go with the current Model Y. But great video! 🙂
I took the Highland for a test drive (got a Model 3 LR) & I had no problems with the indicators being on the wheel at all - I agree with Mark - go for a test drive! The car is absolutely awesome
@@exaturbo we want it fitted from factory. No one is going to dismantle their dashboards to fit 3rd party hardware that should have been installed from factory
i test drove this for an hour and went around several roundabouts. it's a slight annoyance sure, but if you cross your right hand over the wheel and grab it where the indicators are before beginning the turn, then just pull the wheel into position, your hand is already where it needs to be to indicate out, and it become second nature. knowing which button to press is also easy too - as with a stalk, the correct button is always going to be the one corresponding to the direction you're about to turn the wheel. in the end i felt that the buttons are superior for 99% of driving situations, with that 1% being right turns at roundabouts.
the problem is most people don't wanna accept new thing and not willing to try. People like to stick to whatever they are familiar with. It is not that hard to adapt, i been driving it for a month+ i feel it is easier and more comfortable.
Hey, thanks for the comment, but that’s not the case here when we have a roundabout as the steering wheel turns up the buttons are no longer right is up and left us down at the top right is right and left is left and then when the wheel turns upside down, they actually reverse the placement, so it’s it’s quite hard to work out where they are and obviously each roundabout is different in size, so the buttons can be completely different place every time
Would love if the car automatically switched the indicator for you on a roundabout when the nav knows where you’re going. That would go a long way to fixing the indicator issue and could be done with software.
Actually, do you know what would be an even better way to resolve the no stalk issue ????? Don’t remove them in the first place… Musk is so DUMB 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Yeah, that would be a good idea and it’s a shame Tesla didn’t foresee this small issue and plan for it. That’s kind of what I meant in the video by this not being an improvement, I love improvements and things changing if it makes things easier and faster. And that’s the problem this isn’t easier or faster
Not upgrading to a new car cause the stalks aren’t ideal seems a little drastic.. I’m sure people will adjust like they did with the instrument cluster removal!
Hey, as I mentioned in the video, I think it really depends on where you live, if you’re in the USA, for example, this is really a non-issue as you primarily drive straight and indicate left or right, so it’s super easy. Here in the UK and some European countries like Italy, we have roundabouts and multiple roundabouts together, so the band are constantly spinning around moving upside down and the button could be Top or bottom left or right or up and down. And as I mentioned, it’s not a dealbreaker for me, it’s just not an improvement
First year models are nice to get, but as with all first year models, one has to accept problems that will arise the first 1-2 years until Tesla corrects them.
Yes that is always a risk with the newest model. I think the good thing here is that as it’s a refresh, there’s probably a few things that could go wrong compared to a brand brand-new model.
No rear cross traffic alert, and awful indicators now. Plus switching from reverse to forward is a pain, you have to take your eyes off the road, not safe. What used to be one of their best features is now one of their worst. Being able to throw the stalk into drive without coming to a complete stalk was a joy. These are deal breakers for me. Tesla needs to get their act together before I buy another.
The no indictator stalks thing I believe is Tesla’s incremental move to steer by wire since moving your steering wheel all the way around will become unnecessary. But yes, I too prefer stalks myself. Also, the European market doesn’t need them any more than the US market needs them. We have tons of windy mountain roads, curvy freeway interchanges, and, believe it or not, roundabouts and traffic circles as well.
Thanks so much for the comment, however I tend to disagree when you’re going round a mountain Road. You don’t generally need to indicate too often or if you do you’re only going left or right once. Here in the UK. We have sometimes multiple roundabouts link together, so you may need to indicate five or six times as the wheel is spinning and your travelling 30 to 40 mph, so as I say, it’s not a dealbreaker, it’s just not an improvement of how easy it was before
Hey, yes absolutely it’s a lot better compared to my 2021 Tesla model three I really like the door sounds of opening and closing sounds much more like a BMW or a Volkswagen. My current model three back doors sound like tin when you close them 😊
Many in the UK can’t use roundabouts properly anyhow, though I agree, the lack of stalk feels the wrong decision. That said, it won’t put me off one of those when I get round to changing my current car.
In the US, 2 weeks ago (2023) you could buy a new inventory M3 RWD for $11,400 less than you will pay today in 2024 (inventory pricing discount +federal incentive). That’s a lot of money to me.
I've ruled out the model 3 due to the lack of indicators and lack of proximity sensors and 360 view. The charging infrastructure isn't enough to put up with the lack of basic usable safety features.
Thanks for the comment. Yes I can understand how you feel. For me, it’s not a dealbreaker, but it changes otherwise perfect car and does take it down slightly for me.
I think if you live in the USA it’s a non issue as most of the roads are designed in a grid layout. In the UK we can have 3-4 roundabouts linking together so imagine finding a button that constantly moves and the button placement changes when it goes upside down
Should have a selection in settings where if the steering wheel hits a certain angle or degrees the indicators flip automatically, but it’s much safer to just have stalks
Having tested it I think the stalk removal is a huge miss. I do like the new fascia, but the 10% range improvement claim is just marketing, the consumption is hardly any lower than my TMY. A big disappointement was the fact that they did not integrate a front bumper camera and HD radar. I was not wowed by the new inner light strip, I do prefer the previous wood veneer. I did like the seats, sound proofing and suspension.
Hey, thanks so much for the comment. Glad you’ve tested it out, yes I didn’t get to fully test out the range so it would be interesting to see if it is much better or not but from what you’ve said it doesn’t sound like it’s changed much. I do think even if they didn’t add back in USS, just simply adding a front bumper camera would’ve been a big plus Because you really can’t see if you’re about to hit something going forward which I really should’ve got in the video
Thanks so much Ryan, really appreciate it! I enjoyed making this one, and loved the new car! Are you think of getting the highland or sticking with the Model Y?
Completely agree with indicators - it's not an improvement at all. Also the gears, I have to parallel park almost daily so need to flick between reverse and drive and back an forth so this just seems so impractical - coming from a Tesla model 3 2021 owner.
Hey Anthony, thanks so much for the comment, honestly I don’t think the gears are too bad as the car does most of the stuff automatically. I think you’ll find parallel parking quite easy. I’d recommend taking the car for a test drive, I’ve put a link in from Tesla, so you can get a free test drive if you want one, definitely worth it in my opinion 👍
@@MBrown "automatically". Is it automatically going to stop when a cat comes in between me parallel parking then seamlessly continue when gone? is it automatically going to line up the car before? doubt it, things like this work great in a meeting room but in practise It's quite different
While I do understand why people would have reservations about the missing indicator stock I must say I really do not understand why people make a fuss about shifting on screen. It is far from being the worst gear selector I've ever seen. In fact I found it pretty intuitive.
Hi Mark, I too agree with you about the indicator stalks. I have no problem with forward/reverse via screen. I suppose FSD would remove the problem, the car could do the indicating, but until then it is a menace on mini roundabouts. I don't think it is a deal breaker, a well known after market supplier intends to come out with add on indicator stalks using bluetooth via the OBD port. I think Tesla would be wise to at least offer it as a UK/EU retrofit option. It's almost a case of spoiling a nice ship for a ha'poth of tar!
Great review! No stalks sucks because it's low-key kinda satisfying with the feedback you get from it while driving. I'd only consider the new model 3 if they added it back it tbh.
Yea, the buttons for indicators are a stupid idea. We have lots of round abouts in Canada as well. I completely agree with your comment that the buttons are not an improvement. I think is just like the lack of physical buttons for HVAC controls. Yes, you can get used to them, but is it an improvement? No. Will we have to put up with it so that car companies can eek out more profit because there are less parts? yes.
You don't need to initiate a turn single for a roundabout it's right of way. No need to let people know which exit you're taking. 😂 also in the states you're required to turn the signal on 100 feet before the turn so there shouldn't be an issue with the signals on the wheel.
@@gveresUW no problem for me as i been driving it for more than 1 month, i feel the button is better than using stalk. My country doesnt have all this small mini roundabout than again if you drive it for a while you will know where to press the button because the turning position of your steering wheel should be around the same for those roundabout.. is not like a random thing that will it be in different position when you always go the same roundabout.
I definitely agree that the stalks need to return (thank goodness the people who make the S3XY buttons have announced that they will be making aftermarket stalks for the Highland Model 3). I don't care a bit about the people in the backseat do the rear display is a complete waste. I know Tesla saves money by standardizing but it would be nice to have the option of deleting it and reducing the price of the car. I suspect Tesla has pushed for vision instead of ultrasonic because they use the data collected to improve the robot project. I am inclined to buy an older Model 3 and just have the rear door windows swapped out for the new double-glaze glass. Best of both worlds.
@@MBrown I am glad to hear that I have helped. The buttons are Bluetooth to the car and I believe they also make a multi-function rotation knob for those who like that sort of control which also connects via Bluetooth.
@@wensiangfong I agree and am seriously considering it since I am not one of those people compelled to always have "the latest & greatest" thing to arrive on the market.
They made a really bad mistake removing the turn signal stock. I as a Tesla shareholder and extremely concerned about this. It’s already hard enough transitioning from a regular ice vehicle to a Tesla. I say for myself, I’ll definitely be hanging onto my older model three performance, until they bring back the turn signal stock.
Yeah, that was one thing. I was a little concerned about a lot of people struggle to even open the door so imagine getting into a Tesla for the first time. If you’re not really that interested in the tech and you’re just jumping in from an old car or someone from my garage is moving your car for you they might find it quite difficult.
I jumped from a "traditional" car into my Model 3 and loved the minimalism and novelty of the Tesla. The only thing I didn't like was the speedometer on the centre screen, so I added an aftermarket HUD. But the stalkless indicator has gone to far for me too. And being such a fundamental control in the cars, I would not be comfortable with an aftermarket option. I was planning to upgrade my car to the Highland, but after experiencing no stalks, there is no way I'd make the swap.
At 100% it was only saying 248 miles, but I've never driven the SR before this one so a little hard for me to say whether its much better in terms of range.
ultrasonics is pretty irrelevant for me especially since parking is parking. I just need cameras and eyes. Removing ultrasonics will cut that cost completely from the car for a function that isn't essential and make it cheaper The lack of stalk is interesting. I can get used to it. But the real solution is simply what the cybertruck has. Steer by wire. So you will never have to do a full 360 on your wheel ever again. I feel like a lot of technology from cybertruck like steer by wire will be moved to teslas existing portfolio. The designs like changing to a yoke wheel for visibility and being minimalist checks out to the pursuit of autopilot.
Take out power steering, as I've got muscles in my arms. The problem is these things are so cheap, removing a $3 piece isn't making the car cheaper for us. I agree steer by wire would be great... but it's not in this car.
It's a dealbreaker for me, I have to have a turn signal arm and a speedometer, and people think it's smart, but it's only about saving, that's not why you buy a car
Thanks Mark. Watching RSymons the model 3 highland can’t detect low object. Having cameras on my Solterra the Tesla ones don’t look too clever. A test drive will convince me one way or the another.
Hi, I own Highland RWD for 2 weeks and about 5000 kilometers ( I had to visit 15 places across Poland). After 2 weeks I tried to drive my old car and I couldn't turn the indicators correctly, it was much worse than trying tesla Highland for the first time. My conclusion is that tesla stalksless system is much comfortable and better for me. You just have to give it some time which is not always possible by testing a car for a short period of time.
I had a look at the new 3 today (had a 3 and Y in the past). Was very impressed by it. But the lack of indicator stalk means I can’t buy it. Absolutely beyond ridiculous. It’s a shame EuroNCAP concentrates on stupid invasive ‘assistants’ that we all switch off rather than how safe is the user interface for the driver? Tesla would score poorly - dangerous indicators, have to look left to see the speed which, depending on your driving position, could be obscured by your arm.
I agree with the indicator-bashing. However, I think you need to look to the Cybertruck, and specifically steer by wire. Max rotation is what, 170 degrees in either direction? So I think that’ll mean you’ll generally be physically be turning the wheel less, and therefore the buttons stay in the same place relative to your thumb. Would still rather have the stalk though! Its removal doesn’t *add* functionality.
Hey, yes that’s the thing if they had added stair by wire in the model three, I don’t think it would’ve been as much of an issue, however they didn’t so it is a bit of an issue in this model
Clever software could actually assist in the roundabouts - if you have navigation on and get to the roundabout, maybe an option to activate that it automatically activates and cancels out the indicators? It knows where I'm going so maybe be an option?
At 16:19 , clearly the cameras cannot detect nearby objects like the ultrasonic sensors can. In this example, there are even strongly contrasting colors, and still the TeslaVision cameras cannot get the job done. And this is 'state of the art' for 2024?
@@MBrown Agreed, but Elan has decided to remove essential sensors from the car, to increase profits at Tesla Corporation. And the car is degraded as a result.
No Stalks👍👍 Not needed. Much cleaner look. Amazing that Tesla kept the price the same. Super excited to upgrade from my 2019 Model 3. Will miss my fog lights and USS though, I think!
@@MBrown Hi, I'm in the US! Just curious, why would not having stalks be different for drivers in England? It seems like many people are adjusting to stalkless better than they thought; I'm including Model S & X, drivers, too. Thanks for your thorough and honest review!
maybe Tesla could add an Indicator FSD solution. So the car will auto indicate even when not in FSD. In the US we don't signal/indicate in round a-bouts.
I think after a few weeks with this car the indicators would become 2nd nature and wouldn’t be a problem once you get use to them,I really like this refresh model 3 ,the Ultra Red is 🔥,cheers fella 👍😉💪
It’s hard to know how it’ll be possible to hit the moving target of indicator buttons while negotiating roundabouts without looking down? It’s not really a matter of getting used to it. Can’t be safe and stalks are a great solution.
@@flyentityThis is the problem, no matter how used to it you are, you can NEVER avoid having to look down at the wheel to see where the buttons are, move your hands to the buttons then do a bit of mental gymnastics to make sure you press the correct button. Test driving the car didn't male me feel any more confident. I love my pre Highland Model 3 and, in Australia at least, Telsa offer the best ownership and service experience. But if I didn't already have a Model 3, I'd seriously look at a used car instead of the Highland.
@@vasil7410 you will get used to it unless you are a slow to adapt. When doing same small roundabout, the position of your steering wheel will the same most of the time, you will know where the buttons are and which to press, i been using it for a month, and i don't even need to think where to press when signaling. There is this situation where after i turn left then i need to turn right straight away into my house. So while turning left my steering is already at upside down position, so i always know the signal button will be at right side instead, n the button to signal right will the bottom one.
@@wensiangfongWhat you are describing is memorising every roundabout, every curved road and every turn you will ever drive on, then hope that you can position your hands precisely where the buttons are, without looking down at the wheel. Worst case, you still have to move your a hand to the buttons. And what happens when you drive on unfamiliar rounds or forget the hundreds of turns you would normally drive through? Sounds like an unrealistic solution to a totally unnecessary problem to start with.
The indicator stalk issue means Tesla is completely ruled out for me as an option in the future. I believe it is actually dangerous and will cause problems with people indicating incorrectly or just not bothering.
It's the stupidest change ever in the history of the automobile.. Elon is a spastic. But don't worry, the Tesla fanboys will argue it's because of cost saving and FSD 🤣
There will be options to add stalks back to these cars. Enhance auto is already working on a prototype. I agree it’s a dumb and dangerous move to remove the stalks. Shouldn’t have been allowed.
Are you sure thing and I guess you don’t live in the UK? If you don’t, it’s probably a non-issue as a lot of countries don’t have crazy little roundabouts like us
The lack of the stalks (both of them) is a deal killer for me. It’s fashion over function and it is really dumb. I also cannot believe that Tesla still continues to not have heads-up display. Turning your head down to see the screen is often, but not always, a safety hazard. Making the decision to put the change lane warning lights near the mirrors was a good one (late in coming of course since almost every car has it now!), but no heads up display is plain stubbornness for the sake of what? Other than these things I agree it is an excellent car, but Tesla small design and safety features count!
Hey Cliff, yes I think that’s the thing with this car it’s so perfect in a lot of ways but just misses on a couple of small points. However I would certainly recommend a test drive you might not think it’s as bad as some people
Regarding the indicators, I have an issue. I never can decide which button to press if I want to change the volume of music while I am turning. We in the uk have a lot of roundabouts. Musk probably is not aware of that.
Yes, great review! Only thing worth adding on the missing indicator stalk is that the existing one in the Model 3 isn't great, feels cheap and not always responsive.
Those indicators make it worse for us in the UK and EU on roundabouts or mini-roundabouts. With that said though, I would try one and don't think it would put me off. Good video Mark, thx 👍🏻😄 Elon's doing what Apple do.... they change things for "progress" when it really isn't and they actually want it specific for them only.
Great video Mark! Cheers! I see Cybertruck reviewers commenting on the steer by wire making u-turns with only half a lock/turn of the steering wheel a low speeds. Wonder if Tesla are prepping us for steer by wire coming to the other models by removing the indicator stalks? The indicator steering wheel buttons with the reduced turn arc of the wheel would seem far more usable. Steer by wire dependent on 48v low voltage upgrade like the Cybertruck, but no doubt it's coming in the next few years.
Hey Barry, yes it would be great if we had steer by wire, I think that would make the indicators a non-issue as the wheel wouldn’t move much. Unfortunately it doesn’t really help this car 😆
We are a 2 Tesla family, 3 and Y and I love them. However, even our 2021 3 and 22 Y have compromises. The indicators on the older versions are rubbish for the UK, yes you get used to them, but they should be intuitive after decades of development. The windscreen wipers are also a compromise, again you get used to them and the update that allowed you to alter the speed with the scrolling button on the steering wheel improved things, but not as good as just having them on the stalk. The speedo to the left, again you get used to them, but a compromise nonetheless. Now, rather than improve the indicators, they’ve made them worse! A previous comment mentioned them being dangerous and they are correct. The gears are another compromise, no matter how you look at it. Gears on the stalk is actually really good and allows quick changes from forward to reverse. We also lose the ease of having the cruise control and autopilot on the stalk, again needless change for the worse. Finally, the loss of parking sensors, that you get on a Dacia, is just ridiculous! I don’t think losing the rear ones are too much of an issue, except that rear camera gets dirty and blurry in the poor weather quite quickly, but the front ones? The front camera is useless as estimating how close you are to things, as it’s on your windscreen. My lease ends in December for the 3 and at the moment, I’m looking elsewhere. Might have to compromise on range and acceleration to get a car that makes driving safe and easy again.
Hey yes I love mine too, I just feel for an amazing car with amazing tech, we shouldn't be compromising on the basics like working wipers and parking. I think if Tesla improves these small aspects we use every day it would be unbeatable
Great review - thanks Mark. Got another two years on my lease, but looking forward to getting the new one. Not keen on the indicators, but everything else seems to be an big improvement. Noise is a big issue to me at speed in the 2022 model. I assume there no front bumper camera? Don't see how it can park reliably forward without one (you didn't demo parking forwards to a low obstruction). I would never pay for any of the advanced auto features from Tesla (e.g. self park, FSD) as they don't work (even automatic headlights and wipers are pretty useless in mine)
Thanks so much! Yes overall it's a nice upgrade. No camera on the front bumper which is a shame, would have improved the parking, as its quite hard to pull forward to something with no sensors.
Tesla should put out an update where if a navigation address is inputted the car will auto predict turning on your signal indicator so that you don't have to press the button.
Good review Mark. The only issue I have with parking - 2023 MY - is going front in to a space as the cameras can’t pick up anything close at ground level however I’ve always preferred to back in and the rear camera does a really good job so it’s a non issue. Indicators are an interesting one and I can’t fathom the thought process to remove the stalks but I’m sure I’d get use to the change and maybe indicate less which may or may not impact other drivers. Doesn’t seem to bother BMW drivers (!) so perhaps I’m overthinking it.
Hey, yes this is something I haven’t got a full answer for someone at Tesla told me it was hardware for and then someone else told me it was hardware 3.5 and then another person told me it was four so I’m not completely sure which one it is ha ha 😆
Thank you very much for a great video Mark! The new model 3 is just so nice, the new design looks so good and modern. I have never owned a Tesla, but this upgrade feels so right. As you say, the suspension, comfort and materials are way better than before. I tried the new Model 3 Highland once, and to be honest, I didn't think the lack of indicator stalks was an issue. Of course, in roundabouts its not optional, but the feeling without indicators stalks feels unique and modern (even if its not an improvement). I really liked the feeling. And yes, we have a lot of roundabouts in Stockholm as well 😋 Now I have to choose between standard range and long range. Thank you for your reflections on that too. 😎 It is likely that you will have around 8,000 Euros less to spend over a period, as you probably will get the money back when you sell the long range version. I would think that the value on the second-hand market corresponds to the difference in the price as new, at least in Sweden.☺ Hmm, I go for the long range!
yea, so many people complain about the stalk when they been driving it for less than 1 day... is not really a problem for mini roundabout when you been it for a while.
Hey, thanks so much for the comment and good luck with your new purchase, if you haven’t purchased it already there is a link in my description which should give you money off the car or at least some free enhanced auto pilot. I think you’re really going to enjoy this car, as I say, it’s almost perfect in every way And I wish my current 2021 Tesla model three was this quiet 😆 👍
I never turn on my signals in a roundabout. Because even if there is a stock and you are turning you would have to take on hand to turn the signal which is not safe anyway.
Well, when you use a steering wheel, your hand brushes past it, so you don’t really need to think about it too much. It’s illegal requirement here in the UK that you must indicate off roundabouts so it’s pretty important here
Big Tesla fan, was excited to drive the new Model 3 but the kack of indicator stalks makes it unusable for me. Its just not safe in the UK. I can only imagine that Tesla engineers based in California didnt think to test this in Europe before approving the stalkless design
Been waiting for the updated Model 3. I like all of the improvements. However, removing the stalks (at least for the European market) is just a huge mistake. It's simply a deal breaker for me and I won't be buying a Tesla that has these turn signals. I like and am very open to change, but not stupid ones that are also related to safety.
That would be better, but as Mark demos in his video sometimes the wheel is upside down so you’d have to push the indicator on the wrong side of the wheel sometimes. It’s just a bad design, they’re controls that do not belong on the steering wheel. The gears not being on a stalk is less of a problem but as the buttons demonstrate the screen isn’t a great replacement. But … the buttons seem placed deliberately to stop you using them instead of the screen.
@@danrspen its not ideal but it will be easier to figure out which is which with a quick glance on the buttons, i think they also light up so if the wheel is upside down its the oposite of what it normally would be, not rocket sience that.
Its all well and good removing hidden things to reduce production and maintenance costs but removing stalks, ultrasonic sensors and a 20mph reduction in top speed on the Long Range together with a £2k increase on what I paid means I will keep my 2021 Long Range thanks.
Massive mistake by Tesla on the indicator stalks. Put simply, this is dangerous in the UK, and frankly I’m not sure how the UK authorities allow this. This will damage Tesla sales im sad to say.
I think what Tesla should have done was the same as Citroen did with a previous C4 and have a fixed boss with the. I have a 2022 RWD and love it. Replacement will be 2026.
Can you clarify why the range stated 258miles in a full charge? I thought is was 318/344 depending on wheels. I know it won’t achieve this, but what happened to the 60+ miles on your car?
That’s news to me. My M3 always shows the same range whatever the weather? What it actually achieves is obviously influenced by the weather. Finding this off has completely put me off upgrading to this model.
Hey Leon, it’s tricky to say as you’re picking up the audio on a small microphone, BMWs are of course very very good and in my opinion, some of the best cars at noise reduction. I’m hoping to test drive the new BMW electric series if BMW let me
Any improvements on the automatic window wipers? As on my 71 plate they are beyond terrible! They can never decide what to do and when they do most of the time they are wrong speed!
Thanks for the review. The indicator thing is a bit concerning. However, I'm taking delivery next month of a M3H LR. It occurred to me that it could be worth placing a red marker dot of some sort on the Right button. Red for Right. Then wherever the steering wheel is during a roundabout turn, you will see the red dot and know the left turn is the other (unmarked) button. Maybe have that in place, at least until you become more familiar with the system.
I think you’re really gonna enjoy your car and that sounds like a good idea. I’m sure someone is going to make a sticker which just makes it a lot easier to see as you’re driving
You indicate as you come up to the roundabout, that bits fine, but you have to legally (here) indicate off and this is when the button can be to the side, upside down or moving