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Love the format of this test. You should definitely test more cars, especially missing is the new Model S (non plaid 19") and the legacy Model 3 LR RWD with the Panasonic battery. These might give the Taycan and the Lucid a run for their money (considering the price of the Model 3 at least).
I just did a trip of over 3000 miles in my Model X Plaid. Ave was 360 watt hours per mile or about 275 miles per full charge. This was through a mix of cold, rain, high winds and speeds nearing 80 mph most times, mixed with nice conditions as well. Had I not looked at the watt hour usage, I'd have had no clue or care how much energy was used, because the car felt great, felt safe and was SO easy to drive with auto-steer. How many people in big SUV gas hogs actually look at their gas mileage? Very few. Super chargers were super fast by the way.
My wife and I have done five trips, each over 5k miles out west in our Xs, along with six, 1500 mile trips to Florida. Greatest road trip car in history! Add in FSD, and I will never road trip in any other car.
We did a 1500-mile road trip from Dallas TX to Long Beach CA last summer with a 2023 Model X plaid full of people and luggage. 0 issue and no range anxiety. Grate Tesla product!
What year is your X? I want a used 2022+ but they are $20k more than 2020s. I feel like the 2020s are overall 85% as good as the 22+ but that 15% improvement is enticing. Do you think the increased efficiency, heat pump, display, rear display, sound isolation etc. is with the added cost?
@jon1913 I had a 2018 P100D, but it was totaled in 2021. I replaced it with a 2022 Plaid. Overall, it is better, but I hate the 6 seat configuration. I would love to have a 5 seater again. I would rather have the long range, but I ordered the Plaid because I thought I would get it faster, but the opposite turned out to be true. Regardless, I love any X!
I was looking for a warm weather X Plaid range test; So you covered 120 miles with 48% of the battery. Isn't that kind of a weak result, 250 miles on a charge in summer at 80? I mean at 70, the X Plaid went 286 miles in 42 degree weather
I have a 2023 X and have never had an issue with auto doors or falcon wings around town. You might want to get the falcon sensors checked out. Quite a slam on the X around town driving.
Thank you for the review! I'm about to embark on a trip to Boca Chica for Starship take off that's around 1,200 miles one way, for most long trips I've always used my '22 MS LR and it's truly a joy using FSD but for this trip I have to use my '23 MX since I'll be camping with my little dog. You've convinced me to use MX and load up with camping stuff. Driving around in town or going down to Jacksonville, FL. using I-95, with MX I manage to use average energy 265Wh/mi at 70mph unlike MS LR AE 231Wh/mi.
When are the owners of MX’s going to file a class action lawsuit against Tesla for terrible front-end suspension design & a lifetime warranty on suspension? I’ve spent thousands of dollars on out-of-warranty suspension work.
I have the same high frequency vibrations in my 23 MSP. The service center keeps telling me software updates will fix but it doesn’t. Frustrating but glad to see this is a common issue not just isolated to me. Doesn’t help, but make me realize I’m getting gas lit by Tesla.
@@brianackland4813my dads model S Plaid has the same issues. We tested a little and it turns out the vibrations only happen in the first couple of minutes especially on low speed drives at the said 40-60 mph. My best guess is a too high viscosity drivetrain lubricant coupled with some resonance in the gearbox-housing that just happens to be at these speeds. That would explain why its getting less and less while driving 😄
@@benzo5799 thank you very much for this reply. What you’re experiencing is EXACTLY the same thing and yes improves after a little bit of driving. If you discover a solution or fix please let me know.
I'm going from a Model S to an X. I want the more room and comfort. The Model S while a fun car to drive is low to the ground and more cramp inside. I'm older than you, and it's a lot easier to get into an X than S. I'm looking forward to being more comfortable on my long road trips.
@williamalford5286 I think that it would actually for a very interesting video. That would be an actual real world test. Testing a car that real people can afford.
I completely agree with your take on the X. There's just something about the X that I don't love. I've driven the S, 3, X, and I own a Y. I prefer the Y out of all of them. If I had to rank them in order of how much I like the cars, I'd say Y, 3, S, X, in that order.
At 12:07 you said you are using J3400 NACs, but you aren’t. You are just using the typical Tesla charging standard with its CAN communications. People incorrectly are calling the Tesla Standard as NACs (J3400). Tesla’s At Superchargers still use the old protocol even at V3 or V4 superchargers. Heck even if you use a Magic Dock with a CCS adapter you will still use the old Tesla CAN Protocol. It would be great if you addressed this in a podcast. J3400/NACs is more and different from just the connector.
It’s interesting that all Teslas (except ones with 4680 battery) charge to about the same percent in this test, regardless of model, battery size, and battery chemistry. Model Y Long Range, Model 3 RWD LFP, and now Model X Plaid all got to 58-60% after 15 minutes. That can’t be coincidence, right? Seems like Tesla must have a design goal of adding 50% in 15 minutes, and they adjust the curve of each to hit that goal. But I guess they weren’t able to do it with 4680 batteries in CyberTruck.
Now that the latest update takes care of the doors issue constantly complained about in any video with Alyssa or Brandon with the yoke, now why wouldn’t the X be a good choice? The X is just the best Tesla overall hands down all things considered.
You keep saying it is a typical road trip set up but is it typical to drive 15mph over the legal limit? How would driving the legal speed affect the range?
29:19 While I don't personally travel in this way in an EV (I prefer fewer but longer, more productive stops, and no more than 3 to 4 stops in a 500 to 700 mile drive), I would say that my baseline acceptability would be 1 hour to 1.5 hours of driving between stops. I'm rarely on roads that allow 80 mph, though, so for me, that's about 120 to 130 miles minimum between stops.
the vast majority of cars road tripping cruz at at least 80mph even at 80mph i'm getting passed like crazy and run off the road when i go from los angeles to las vegas. Realistically traffic more at like 85mph when road tripping in the middle of no where.
Love this test, the 1860 batteries still kick ass. We are 71 and when we travel I set our speed off-set to "5 OVER" posted as my MAX highway speed. On our 2022 MYP if I get much past 300 whm I start freaking out. My lifetime average at 16K miles with 6 LONG road trips equalling half of my miles is 276 wh/mi. But we did dump the 21" UT for some 18" from TSportLine. They made a HUGE difference in efficiency and ride comfort
Kyle, any chance we can get a 10% challenge with an F-150 Lightning Extended Range? Ford has that unique "boost" charging curve and I'm curious to see how it would do.
Just check the 70mph range test video for the consumption figure at true 70mph highway speeds and take the amount of kWh recharged from this video and you can estimate the range. At constant 70mph the Model X Plaid took 334Wh/mi. It recharged around 45.6kWh in 15min. If we assume a minimal increase of energy consumption at 72mph to 338Wh/mi (the 80mph consumption is 364Wh/mi btw), then your range should be a max 135 miles. Not that great actually
Appreciate this video, thank you. It’ll hopefully help a ton as I just received my red ‘24 Model X (not Plaid) that included the $7500 tax rebate :). Again, thank you.
You really should try and get your hands the new NIO ET7 150kwh in Europe. I bet all of us would love to know if it is true or false. Pull some strings!!!
I haven't seen anyone address dirty cameras and Tesla performance. I live out in the country and drive on a lot of dirt roads. What happens when your Tesla cameras get covered in dust. My truck backup camera hardly ever has a clear view because it's covered in dust. I wouldn't want to have to clean multiple cameras multiple times a day for the car to work properly.
Better knock on wood. Mine didn’t have any rattles at first either. I think most modern Teslas don’t have any at first, but they start to come after 6 months to a year, unless you’re lucky.
80mph is more realistic? That's a GUARANTEED $400 ticket in California. Just finished a 340mile road trip and 72mph was very comfortable and fantastic on the range.
I'm in Illinois and the doors limit is 70 so a lot of people go 80+. That said, when I road trip in my Bolt I cruise at 65 in the right lane... unless I'm in Chicago where it's unsafe to drive that slow.
Here in CA the speed limit out side of the busy cities is 70mph the vast majority of cars road tripping cruz at at least 80mph even at 80mph i'm getting passed like crazy and run off the road when i go from los angeles to las vegas. Realistically traffic on road trips moves at like 85mph when road tripping in the middle of no where.
Just asking: Why do you assume that drivers violate the speed limit to this degree? Do you have hard survey data to back that? Now, I understand that there are states with higher speed limits (think Kansas toll roads). That's different. Just asking.
80 is the speed limit on many western highways, 75 is a widespread speed limit, not just in the west, and 5 over is an extremely common 'safe margin' almost everywhere. If you're in California you're not really 'speeding' until you're pushing 90 on some highways.
Here in CA the speed limit for road trip when out of the city area is 70mph. the vast majority of cars road tripping cruz at at least 80mph even at 80mph i'm getting passed like crazy and run off the road when i go from los angeles to las vegas. Realistically traffic more at like 85mph when road tripping in the middle of no where.
It varies from charger to charger, based on whatever the local utility company charges. I don't supercharge much, but around $15-$20 for 150 is normal here in the Midwest.
I'd like to see some towing plumbers normally loaded there trucks up with all there stuff which normally weighs around 1400 lbs so could a plumber toe a box trailer with your dad's Tesla and what would that be say if thay did an average of 100 miles a day
Thanks, Kyle. It's a good thing you don't prefer the X. With how much you drive, you'd be buying a new set of tires every week. I kid, I kid... Or do I? 😀
I could have used this in October when I was deciding between MYP and MX. I ordered an X but ended up going with the MYP for almost the exact reasons you stated. Didn’t want to mess with the doors, and a majority of the time it’s just me in this vehicle and the MYP is just easier as a daily driver. I just wish it had the same charging curve as the X. On road trips I would love the bigger battery and better charging, but 90% of driving the MYP was the correct choice. This video would have made my decision easier, but at least I came to the right conclusion. Thanks for all the great content!
My best ever in my 2022 MXP on my 260 mile round trip commute to and from work was 268 wh/mile with no wind, 65 mph, and 70F. Typical, though, was 285 to 295 in the summer at 70 mph and 310 wh/mile in the winter when it's 35 to 50F. The 375ish wh/mile for the drive you did tells me that the alignment really needs to be checked. It should do much better than that.
Wow, that's almost exactly what Domenic and I got on an X last August. We had a 2023 5-seater and got 119 miles. Dom and I were both in the car, we had the climate on (August in Florida, no way around it), but due to traffic had to come off 80 mph a few times. The X truly proved to be an excellent road-tripper in my FL to TX trip last Thanksgiving.
120 miles Model X Plaid! It will be interesting to see how the refreshed RWD Model 3 with the LFP does (considering the pre-refresh got 106 on this test)
You may be correct, given that the motor and battery are the same on the refresh. When it was first released in the UK it was said to be an increase of 5-8% for range. I think they didn't' bother adjusting the EPA number as it was already over inflated.
Just remember this is a comparison test for cars at your elevation. At your elevation the car should have significantly more range than at sea level. Great test BTW it is impressive that the X has similar Wh/mi to the Y. My 2018 Model 3P has similar lifetime Wh/mi to my wife's 2020 MY.
I did the same test with an X last August in Florida and got 119 miles. I'm sure the 5000' difference in elevation makes a difference, but I don't think I'd call it a significant difference.
My Model Y is 14 months old now. No rattles or creeks. Or noticeable uneven panel gaps or misalignments. It's been perfect. Concern about 18 seconds? Well from the time you plug in til you start charging is about 7 secs with a Tesla at a Supercharger. That's at least 30 seconds faster than charging anywhere else, at best. That should count in this test too.
