You are right. I’m not a fan of the Tesla CCS adapter. I feel the built quality leaves a lot to be desired. I use the A2Z adapter. If you want to know the details, I have a link to A2Z in the description. A much better option if you are thinking of a getting a CCS adapter yourself. Thanks for watching!
Limit on the amount of amps these chargers can deliver. A v3 Supercharger can deliver over 650A where the EA are limited to 450 or 500A. The newer stations may have a higher limit. The new EVGO stations can deliver up to 540A.
Thanks! Not sure why I was limited to a max 187kW. I will need to do some further testing to see what was happening. I preconditioned the battery on all but 1 charging stop. The adapter can handle speeds up to 250kW. I plan to do a follow up video charging on different networks using the CCS adapter to see where you can get the fastest speeds.
That makes sense...thanks for letting us know. I will need to check out the EVGO stations, saw your video where you were charging above 200kW using the A2Z adapter.
Used both and like the Supercharger experience much better. It’s not so much about the plug and play (don’t get me wrong, it’s a great feature) but the reliability is the key. You know you will charge when you show up. This is most important.
You won't see more than 200kW since the Model 3/Y have a low pack voltage (350-400V, depending on SoC and model). 184 kW is actually really good. Since it won't heat up the battery as much as 250kW the car can maintain a higher carge rate for longer. 10-80% charge rate about are the same, it doesn't matter if the charger can do 180kW or 250kW.
The problem with the current Teslas is that they are all 400 volts architecture, and the Electrify America are 800 architecture chargers, meaning that Teslas have to increase the amperage to get to 250kw. However, that quadruples the heat which is why they only stay at those high speeds for a very short time since they get hot much quicker. With an 800 volt EV and charger, it results into only a quarter of the heat, so the charge speed and curve is much higher despite Tesla having the superior battery technology and expertise. It's the next generation of Teslas with 800 volt architecture and V4 chargers that are going to really be something special. Currently, however, since the 800 volt charger have lower amperage, current Teslas cannot achieve the 250kw seen at V3 superchargers.
Did you use the A2Z Thunderstorm Adapter or a different model for your Model Y? You mentioned the A2Z adapter is better constructed than the Tesla CCS model, please explain.
I used (and still use) the A2Z adapter. Friend of mine purchased the one offered by Tesla and the first difference I saw was that the build quality of the A2Z is much better. It feels more solid whereas the Tesla one sounds hollow and feels more brittle. Finally, during charging, the A2Z stays cooler than the Tesla option which is great if you live or will travel in a warmer climate (plus it has a locking pin on the CCS side so you can rest assured no one will unplug your vehicle when you need to do something else while charging). Overall I prefer the A2Z adapter over other options.
Thanks for the input, but there is no difference in initial charging speed if you set the charging limit to 80 or 100. It slows down past 80, but the initial burst from down low in the SOC is exactly the same no matter the setting.
Depending on how much you drive daily for most use cases it’s going to be enough. I know many people who only use regular outlets to charge and have no issue. And when they travel long distances then they use Superchargers (if you have a Tesla) or other DC fast chargers.
Yes I used the app and paid for membership. Billing address I used was my Canadian one and for the postal code I did the following: took my Canadian one V3B 7W4 and wrote it like this 37400 and it worked.
It depends. Superchargers bill you per minute so if you are on a V3 then it can be cheaper. However, when you charge on a V2 and need to share with another Tesla, then you will only get max 75kW. This is when CCS charging makes sense. You can get a much faster charge, be billed by kWh instead of time and be on your way quicker. It al depends on the use case. But I agree: the bad side is fiddling with 3rd party apps, not fun. At least the adapter works flawlessly.
